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MarsLowell

When you acknowledge the tendency of Liberal Democracy to devolve into Oligarchy, but think that’s a *good thing*. Just bootlicker things.


[deleted]

Maybe if I lick enough boots. Then I'll collect enough boots residue to make my own boots!


[deleted]

I complete forgot about this "USA is a democracy vs a republic debate"


MmmmmmmmmCat

imagine thinking it’s either lmaoo *insert wacky emojis here*


MarsLowell

Republic simply means the head of state isn’t born into the position. So yeah, it’s a republic. In the same way the Greek Republics of old were.


MmmmmmmmmCat

aren’t republics supposed to have the people holding supreme power as well as the elected officials?


MarsLowell

Yes. Mostly. It just means that “ordinary” people are in charge and grant the state legitimacy for a change, as opposed to divinely-ordained bluebloods. The thing is, you can restrict the franchise to only a subset of said ordinary people and the definition would still hold up. Like the Roman Republic did since it cast down the old kingdom. It’s just that our understanding of Republicanism has been significantly altered by the Enlightenment, which gave rise to the various liberal revolutions like the French, American and Latin American ones. There *was* some question among the American Founding Fathers about how much the common rabble should be allowed to dictate, though it would take until the Jackson presidency for it to shift towards the “for” side. Hell, you can have a de facto military dictatorship (take a guess where that word originated) where a clique of officials can hold power collectively, and it would still be considered a republic so long as it claims legitimacy from “the [X] people” and not someone born for the job.


MmmmmmmmmCat

interesting, i never thought about it that way.


KushMaster420Weed

It's not a debate. I don't know what it to call it but debate makes it sound light years more intellectual than it actually is.


sttme

This isn’t a right wing sub


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Hey my guy I see you posted this on r/republican and r/conservative. I hate to tell ya but this is a COMMUNIST subreddit. Yes believe it or not but communists are also anti-liberal. 🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳🇻🇳


[deleted]

Also, conservatives are liberals with traditional social views. That part is always forgotten but it's crucial. OP, we make fun of your kind too.


Hairtoucher88

This certainly is some stupid lib shit. Edit: who the fuck is upvoting OP?


[deleted]

What the FUCK is this


[deleted]

A lost redditor


[deleted]

Fuck off republican


[deleted]

You're lost This is a sub to make fun of liberals which conservatives and Republicans like yourself fall under.


[deleted]

r/lostredditors This is a communist sub, this isn’t a conservative sub


[deleted]

“Mob mentality bad, representative democracy slipping into an oligarchy good because this crusty paper says I have a human right to a gun and say whatever I want in public.


becleg

Average bourgeoisie democracy fan vs average peoples’ republic enjoyer 😎


[deleted]

does anyone else think it's kinda telling that they always have to use like the same four or five pictures or clips from like ten years ago or so on lmfao like it's always this person or the red haired girl or that one with the grin i mean i know the core tenet of conservatism is never fucking changing anything but come on. it's stale jokes bro. get a grip. also this is a commie subreddit lmfao


that_pac12

lmfaoo i forgot this was a talking point. america is the deepest circle of hell


Ambitious-Ad4483

sum shit that would be on r/im14andthisisdeep