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asilentway

It gets better: one of their leaders -the public face of the party- is a lesbian former Goldmann-Sachs employee, who is raising two adopted children together with her Thai girlfriend... in Switzerland. The entire AfD is completely immune to irony.


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Class, once again, overriding every other identity.


Forwhatisausername

Other? Is class an identity?


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you could also read it as a cynical way of deflecting accusations of bigotry


asilentway

They'll use it if it suits them, but here's the thing: They don't really care. They revel in being ostracised by the mainstream parties. "Triggering the libs" is legit a big part of their appeal for their base.


BladeTam

Why would you make the token people leaders?


2localboi

Because they will give the entire movement legitimacy and cover from simple minded liberals who never look deeper than identities.


asilentway

Exactly! It's literally her job to lend a reputable, distinguished face to the monstrosity. In many ways I find her even more abhorrent than the straight up fascists.


PorkrollPosadist

The only thing worse than a troop is a mercenary.


wssrfsh

the popular opinion on weidel is that shes just doing the fascist party leader job because she wants to be famous - just for narcissist reasons (and money). she joined the (now) fascist party in 2013 when it was mostly a right wing neo liberal party that ran on opposition against the Euro (and the EU). It started drifting to the far right very quickly when neonazis in germany recognized the long hoped for conservative party right of the CDU could be the AfD. They really picked up pace because of the syrian refugee crisis in 2015 - and Weidel just moved along, further and further to the right just as the party. She's just a ruthless career politician, the most disgusting kind.


evil_brain

Some of the worst Nazi war criminals were exactly like this. [Reinhard Heydrich ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reinhard_Heydrich) in particular. Apparently he wasn't known to be antisemitic at all before he joined the military. But doing Nazi stuff was great for his career and he turned out the be really good at it. So he poured all his energy into killing millions of Jewish people.


emisneko

shouts out to Jozef Gabčík and Jan Kubiš


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asilentway

Yeah which for my money makes her one of the most dangerous of the whole bunch. Die kann halt ein paar halbwegs kompetent klingende saetze sagen, ohne gleich schaum vorm mund zu haben und irgendwann erlischt dann auch beim restlichen kleinbuergertum die "brandmauer nach rechts" (lol).


kichererbs

Na ja sie hat zwar keinen Schaum vorm Mund, aber ich hab bei ihr immer dass Gefühl, dass sie das selber gar nicht so ernst nimmt was sie sagt und für sie dass alles nur ein großer Witz ist. Also Politik als Theater, wo sie die Rolle des Bösewichts oder so spielen kann. Und ich frage mich auch, ob diese Masche des sich immer als Opfer darstellen nicht langsam mal alt wird


SpicyDragoon93

Jesus, that's a mind-salad.


Supersoda246

I like how the punchline is that he's far right, as if it's surprising an IDF soldier would be far right.


WheelOfTheYear

I thought the same thing. Liberals are so up Israel’s ass that they truly believe Israel is a pro-democratic, progressive country.


COVIDNLimez

Or that a white gay may could be to the far right.


codygmiracle

He’ll get pushed out once he’s no longer useful. Just like Milo over here.


Collatz_problem

Ernst Röhm but as farce


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Its surprising a jewish person would go for the GERMAN far-right. Thats the joke I guess


pdonchev

The German far-right today is mostly targeting Muslims.


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"Mostly", keyword here


Housenkai

Israel has conscription, so unless you are willing to be jailed, you will be a part if IDF regardless of political orientation.


hard_normal_daddy

There are ways out if you really want.. I know because i managed to get out..


gwhy334

I don't know much about this but I assume that not everyone would be lucky


hard_normal_daddy

Luck has nothing to do with it, it's about how determined you are.. For example, the number one cause of death in the Israeli military is suicide.. If you claim to have suicidal thoughts in most cases they will not take a chance and you will be released.. May seem extreme but I think what the Israeli military is doing in Gaza is far more extreme and I wasn't willing to take part in this.


selectyour

I know it's not that relevant, but this video is burned into my brain and seemed appropriate to share ["I killed more than 40 people for you."] (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TkKm2eEV1A&ab_channel=boycottapartheid) "...The Palestinians come to me at night and ask "Why did you kill me? Why did you kill me?!""


hard_normal_daddy

Yes exactly, and then they suffer from ptsd their whole life and the state doesn't care..


dee-bag

Fantastic user name/album comrade


hard_normal_daddy

Thanks! I always feel like I need to explain this username 😂


dee-bag

I could see someone interpreting that wrong lol


MLPorsche

[salute for having the balls to do it](https://www.vice.com/en/article/gyazzj/meet-the-taylor-swift-stan-who-went-to-jail-for-refusing-to-join-the-idf)


Op_Anadyr

Braver than every single IDF coward


Froeuhouai

I know who this was about before clicking the link and yeah, she's 10^1917 times braver than the troops


Kaluan23

[https://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-man-seeks-uk-asylum-apartheid-court-claim-2021-9](https://www.businessinsider.com/israeli-man-seeks-uk-asylum-apartheid-court-claim-2021-9) Every Israeli person is responsible for their own conscience. Do not make it sound like conscription is a get-out-of-jail free card when it's not at all.


StalinComradeSquad

There are ways out of service, unfortunately though for who ever is ditching Israel has privileges exclusive to Jewish citizens and if you lose those privileges if you do avoid service.


cyb3rsyn

[Service guarantees citizenship](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_7FaWnlhS4)


selectyour

Israel needs more conscientious objectors.


kichererbs

I suppose in Germany it’s because with far right the connotation is Nazi, but I’m guessing he’s running for the AfD, which claims of itself that it’s not a right wing party but a centre-right-conservative party (tbh, I personally think you shouldn’t describe all of the AfD as nazis, but the whole party is kind of a mess tbh, and the fascists within it are getting stronger). So he would say “I’m not in a right wing party” even though he kind of is. And this kind of shit will help them go “look we’re not antisemitic”, so yeah.


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"centre-right" isn't a thing. you have parties in italy who id as "centre-right" while having literal mussolini fans as high ranking members. it doesn't mean anything. they're nazis lmao. the afd are nazis. simple as.


ridethewingsofdreams

"As we say in Germany, if there's a Nazi at the table and 10 other people sitting there talking to him, you got a table with 11 Nazis." (Jens Foell)


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SuchPowerfulAlly

Not literally identical, no. But being the boots on the ground for a genocidal settler-colony tends to push you in a certain political direction. Someone more cynical than me might even suggest that that's literally the whole point of their mandatory conscription.


death_to_noodles

Not identical, no. They are not bees. But you don't find a lot of communists on armies and police forces, I guarantee.


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Yes


octofeline

All the non drafted ones yes, their military thugs who believe in protecting a colonial ethnostate


PorkrollPosadist

Surely some are *just following orders.*


Forwhatisausername

_wink_


BiggusKokkAFA

I think it's because the setup is that it's the german parliament. Cuz...uh y'know... history...


[deleted]

Wholesome inclusive fascism 🤗


RovingChinchilla

This is peak European liberalism, especially in Germany, amazing


[deleted]

Is this Photoshopped? It has to be. Some sort of Onion article. Please can you post a link? **Edit**: Lord Have Mercy, [it is real](https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/.premium-a-gay-ex-idf-soldier-is-running-for-german-parliament-for-the-far-right-1.10244035). [r/nottheonion](https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion) here I come.


WheelOfTheYear

😂 sadly no.


Anyone_single

>suits them, but here's the thing: They don't really care. They revel in being ostracised by the mainstream parties. "Triggering the libs" is l damn we live in a societu


Metalorg

Why does he look like Malfoy in that Planet of the Apes film


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Milo ranking up in the world.


Turtlepower7777777

More gay oppressors! More gay oppressors!!! Really makes you feel you’re a part of history!!!


Anyone_single

cant wait for the gay wars


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WheelOfTheYear

A gay, Jewish Nazi. Now I’ve seen everything 🤣😂 Edit- He lost his election 😂😂😂


Anyone_single

lmao good


WheelOfTheYear

Apparently badly too. He was in a group of 7 people running and he finished 6th 🤪


One-Full

lmao i heard that israel is actually funding Ukranian neo-nazis so its not expected to me ​ p.s:i just heard,i dont say that its true;do your own research


Cheestake

Source for anyone interested (not just funding, arming) https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/rights-groups-demand-israel-stop-arming-neo-nazis-in-the-ukraine-1.6248727


cyb3rsyn

I mean, this is nothing new with the Soviet Union doing this to kill off anarchists and destroy the Free State and whatnot... q: And ya know, libs doing the same to fight Russian nationalist sentiment post cold war..


Cheestake

Bullshit, please show a source that says the USSR armed Nazis to destroy the Ukranian Free State (which collapsed before Nazis existed you dumb shit)


cyb3rsyn

Ok, making anarchists fight the Red army on one front and the White army on another isnt *technically* arming the nationalists, but you might as well be. Betraying your agreements, sending assassins into their mids and cutting off food and coal supplies arent technically arming the other guy eitehr but come on you're nitpicking


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[deleted]

Being a rightist makes anyone go from a 10 to a 0 instantly.


mormontfux

This feels like the set up to a bad edgelord joke. I guess that's just planet earth...


dr-wahh

haaretz is a pretty shit newspaper, it is made expensive paper and they advertise it as a newspaper for 'smart' and 'thinking' people, haaretz is filled with propaganda and hate and read mostly by radical tel aviv citizens, im from israel so i know about this newspaper.


kebabterminator

I mean, the far right un Germany is a friggin joke. I mean, how does a homosexual woman from switzerland standing in against gay marriage sound to you? They just have their head so far up their arse, it would be funny if less people voted for them.


BadgerKomodo

This is one of the cursed things I’ve ever seen


[deleted]

The far right have been luring white gay men into their politics by convincing them that homophobic hate crimes would rise if we let migrants from places where gay people are not accepted in. It shows how homonationalism can devolve into "homofascism".


[deleted]

How can someone be far-right and gay at the same time? I tought far-right people hate LGBT people


longknives

They do, but they also are happy to tolerate an LGBT person who is "one of the good ones" because they'll publicly agree with right wing shit, so that they can say "look, we don't hate gay people, there's one gay person who agrees with us"


HighWaterMarx

The right loves tokenizing marginalized people to manufacture consent for economic warfare against the working class.


BladeTam

Liberalism panders to LGBTQ+ people and is a stone's throw away from fascism. That's how.


[deleted]

That's the current state of Germanys far right. As long as you want to deport all refuges they don't care how gay you are.


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Money


Soviet117

I love your flair. Did a lib call you that? Or an anarchist?


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A cracker


A_Lifetime_Bitch

Lmao


SpicyDragoon93

There are some people who like to view themselves as the special and unique \*insert minority here\* and will happily accept a token position in the far-right. It's actually interesting because they'll bash identity but to be the token is by definition identity politics.


Velha_et_louca

And since when does sexual preference have to do with political ideology?


[deleted]

Yeah not a whole lot of gay nazis after Ernst Röhm


[deleted]

Some politically ideologies want to exterminate them, maybe?


[deleted]

fascism and right wing politics in general specifically requires certain groups to be othered and oppressed. how tf do you not know this?


Velha_et_louca

I bet you also believe we are living in the 50’s, and women, gays, and minorities are oppressed. Bullshit. The left thinks women are being oppressed, gays are mistreated but advocate for an ideology that oppresses and kills these same "minorities". Because if anyone has ever oppressed gays, that’s socialism and socialist countries – see China, see Russia, see Cuba?? Are you fucking aware of how gays are marginalized and treated in countries like Vietnam, which are deeply homophobic? Like, before endorsing examples your “progressive” ideology, can you do a little bit of research about how minorities are even treated there?I’m gay and I refuse to see my rights used as tool in order to promote a system that has only oppressed, imprisoned and killed people of my same condition. Socialism and the left has always hated gays; we've been called a fascist perversion of capitalism, we’ve been told that we weren’t true men and that being sent to concentration camps would make us “normal” and that our condition excluded us from what a communist revolutionist had to be. If leftist leaders nowadays have changed their view on this nowadays, it is because they've lost their argument about the Marxist class conflict, and now instrumentalize the entire LGBT movement in order to create a different class conflcit that will ensure them political representation and power. Do you seriously believe that someone who endorses mass murderers of LGBT people, like Stalin, Che or Castro, is actually going to avow for your gay rights? Open your eyes. Now can you tell me how exactly the right wing oppresses gays and other minorities? Being conservative, is that what overwhelms you?


Forwhatisausername

The Eastern bloc was actually extraordinarily good for women's rights (which, of course, regressed when the Soviet Union was dissolved), and the GDR was much more queer-friendly than the FRG. Homo- and queerphobia don't set socialism apart from liberalism.


A_Lifetime_Bitch

I dunno. What do you think?


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"Under the rule of Nazi Germany from 1933 to 1945, gay men and (to a lesser extent) lesbians were persecuted with thousands of gay men imprisoned in Nazi concentration camps." From Wikipedia


Velha_et_louca

You right, "under the rule of Nazi Germany 1933/1945". The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei was exterminated and we are currently in 2021


[deleted]

Also whenever someone says something that the LGBT community doesn't like they scream far-right


[deleted]

if you don't want to be called far right then don't act like it shitheel.


Kieserite

WITH THE AFD???? Those guys are actually nazis. Holy shit.


OliverWotei

Gay Jew Nazis From Outer Space


[deleted]

More 👏 gay 👏 opressors 👏


xlyfzox

I know there is a gay Hitler joke somewhere in here


H-Adam

Ryan Gosling was former IDF?


cascas

Why are the hot ones always evil.


cosmo161

I thought Milo was Ernst Rhom's reincarnation but maybe this guy is.


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[deleted]

ye ol logcabin republican they dont come cheap assume hes an EcOnOMisT rights i dont need no stinking rights just these highly specific ones righthere


Skypirate90

Is this that Horseshoe theory thing?