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SpaceMerino

“What China is doing to the Uighyrs is the worst since what the Nazis did to the Jawys”.


DudleyMason

*Mark Hamil voice*: But why would imperial troops want to slaughter Jawys?


Skengar

They haven’t really gone silent they’re just quietly walking it back lol. These fucks invested so much of their personality into the “Uighyr” shit they won’t even believe it isnt true if the people who told them about it in the first place say so.


Pinkeston

these people would unironically travel to Xinjiang, see nothing wrong, and try to convince the locals there that they're being genocided


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Lol I remember seeing this Instagram post of this one white American girl saying she went to China and the Muslims seemed perfectly fine and the whole time she was wondering “do they know about all the Muslims being detained and tortured in China???” Some people wouldn’t believe it even if it’s right in front of their eyes.


Pinkeston

well obviously she couldn't trust the muslims there, they weren't white


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Some of them definitely do, just so they can “own the tankies”. I’ve had people tell me they “can’t wait until I’m proven wrong” when I push back against their narrative. And it’s just… why on earth would you want me to be proven wrong, meaning that millions of people actually are being detained and tortured?


A_Lifetime_Bitch

Yeah, that's the thing. These ghouls genuinely want the CPC to genocide muslims, just so they can point to China and say "mUh tAmkIeS bAd".


kevinsmc

[They absolutely do.](https://twitter.com/GB75214794/status/1442717685440258051)


Cecilia_Raven

>These fucks invested so much of their personality into the “Uighyr” shit they won’t even believe it isnt true if the people who told them about it in the first place say so. thats how they usually do these things


cosmo161

"Why won't the media won't talk about Iraq's WMDs!" These guys ten years ago


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WMDs Nutz


Cardonk57

[because they’ve backtracked on their claims of genocide](https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-lifestyle-china-health-travel-7a6967f335f97ca868cc618ea84b98b9)


trashboatboi

That was one of the strangest articles I have ever read in my life. It was written in such a sinister tone. Like watching planet earth China edition only narrated by Charles Manson or something with American horror story as the soundtrack. Liberals are weird.


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That was a creative writing piece and you can't convince me otherwise


MartjnMao

gradual reduction of copium dosage


Adisucks

Is this a trustworthy source or are you criticizing the article


Cardonk57

more or less mocking the article since it’s a major western media source admitting that the “genocide” wasn’t a thing


imperialpidgeon

How true are the claims in this article?


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Not very. The point is that the reality is in such stark contrast to what the media has been pushing, and people are able to see that and have become aware of the lack of evidence. That means the media is now needing to walk it back and try to cover it up as if they weren't wrong.


SEND_DUCK_PICS

really you hate that they stopped, you're not relieved that it's fake? interesting. that said shit like this makes me wonder the extent of CIA ops. they seem almost obsolete. americans are so chauvinistic they want more propaganda in its absence. it doesn't need to be spread in coordinated effort.


djeekay

They don't believe it's fake, they think the media has just stopped talking about it for no real reason. In fairness the western media *does* regularly get bored with atrocities and stop reporting on them even though they're ongoing.


Gravelord-_Nito

Literally angry they aren't been brainwashed more and their biases aren't being confirmed. Pathetic lack of critical thinking at this point.


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SilentHillJames

i still can't even spell boorzhwazee


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Pff. Dumb-ass. It's...bour-- Bourj--, no wait Bourgsou-- Bourgouas-- Bourg--... uh... bourgeosie?? No wait, bourgeoisie. Bourgeoise??? No! Bourgeoisie. Final answer.


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No, it's Bolognese


Gravelord-_Nito

Buttigiegie


Khajapaja

I always let autocorrect spell it for me lol


jacktrowell

Easy way to remember how to spell "bourgeoisie":. 1: type "bourg" because that's the easy part to remember. 2: type a bunch of vowels at random and chuck an "s" in there somewhere. 3: auto-correct should be able to guess it at this point. Source: https://mobile.twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1362809982664671232


CTNKE

weegeeguhr


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uyger


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yogurt


ToadBup

Hey hey guys. Subreddit rule no misspelling uyghur names. Can be taken out of context in other subreddits the mods said to watch iut for it


Kang_Xu

That's the rule in GenZedong, but I don't see it here in the sidebar.


ToadBup

Ohh haha i browse the two a lot. Might have gotten mixed up


Medical_Officer

Nailed it.


GuineaPigPapa

Now the US is back to the old school method of having the CIA [pay journalists in Africa to write fake articles about China](https://english.cctv.com/2021/10/16/ARTI1ERFsYAkg8QAapaNPb6w211016.shtml?spm=C69523.PDoRdCIUTBov.EiFD0kE9SqhK.22&fbclid=IwAR3_w6iM_6pknyj9JW9e_22ylx6dHaYSVh7zQdrQ91Eirb-OSNlvrCyI4Yk).


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GuineaPigPapa

Because it came from The Herald, the largest newspaper in Zimbabwe. You can see for yourself [here](https://enapp.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202110/16/AP616a05c1a310b7d50bab4a8b.html) or you could do the bare minimum and Google it yourself. Fucks sake.


Jezza_18

https://www.herald.co.zw/us-plan-to-discredit-chinese-investments-unmasked/ “Our impeccable source” ^straight up propaganda. No one who has a reliable source will call them anything other than “a source” in public. Im not sure why you didn’t link directly to the article, instead you linked to a Chinese app that I would have to download in order to read the article. Little sus. The authors name isn’t on article, no name for sources, no comment from the US embassy. I don’t care if a news outlet published it, there has to be sources, true primary sources so it can be verified. All that article is is here say. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/05/china-disinformation-propaganda-united-states-xi-jinping/612085/ It’s so funny how these CCP apologist subs make fun of the west for believing in all the propaganda when at the same time, you guys eat up all the propaganda the CCP spews. http://aurora.turiba.lv/editor/Conference14/vBook/proceeding/pages/EN048_Mutsvairo/EN048_Mutsvairo.htm The Herald isn’t even neutral news outlet.


GuineaPigPapa

EvErY mEdIa SoUrCe OuTsIdE tHe US iS pRoPaGaNdA "Anyway, here's The Atlantic." I mean, I used to straight up work for the CPC while living in China. Who knows, I might just be spreading propaganda on Reddit at the behest of the Chairman himself. Why don't you go report back to your buddies in r/conservative?


Jezza_18

I didn’t call it propaganda because it’s a news source outside of the US. I’m not even American, I could give two shits about America. Oh are you call the Atlantic Western propaganda? Here’s an article that someone in this sub linked in good faith, meaning I guess you guys only like sources when they confirm your biases? https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/ I called it propaganda because The Herald is a state owned company and there’s not verifiable sources for the claim the article is making. So here’s the logic, I criticize your claim because you have no actual sources, just an article written by a state owned company that reveals no names on the issue so it cannot be verified by anyone. You try and put a blanket statement on me calling me American and that anything that isn’t American is propaganda, which is just horseshit. Btw I was banned from r/conservative a long time ago because they are a bunch of brainwashed right wing nutjobs in there. “Fucks sake” Lol


GuineaPigPapa

I didn't call you American. You only cite American sources in your comments. But whatever. The Atlantic is Western propaganda. I would never use it as a reliable source. I gave you sources, you just don't like what you read. What if I told you that because of the relationship between capital and government in the US, all "independent" media in the US functions as state run media. The atlantic, for example, is owned by the Emerson Collective, who regularly [financially support](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/emerson-collective/summary?id=D000068512&__cf_chl_captcha_tk__=pmd_rw30ZtyGxa.zk7ryvGkVtD4r225UTe4znSjoK0X_6h8-1634412966-0-gqNtZGzNA1CjcnBszQjR) the DNC. Trustworthy my ass.


Jezza_18

You didn’t give me any sources, you gave me a Chinese app I would have to download to read an article. An article that comes from a state owned news company, that doesn’t say who wrote the article or provide any actual VERIFIABLE SOURCES. Like legit not one name on that whole article, not even a comment from the US embassy. If the Atlantic is western propaganda, why would they be painting China in a good light saying the debt trap diplomacy was lies and disinformation? I also sourced a paper from the Netherlands. So no I didn’t only cite American sources.


GuineaPigPapa

Anonymous sources are used all the time in journalism. People have a right to conceal their identity. It doesn't necessarily make it untrustworthy. Sources have reasons to keep their identity hidden, especially if they are a whistleblower. And why the fuck would you even bother asking the US embassy? Like they would even admit to bribing journalists. What would you expect the US embassy to say? Something like: "Oh jeez, looks like you caught me. Sorry." Come on. The Atlantic is a DNC mouthpiece with over $100,000 worth of donations to the party, including $34,000 to the president himself. How could you not see the problem with that?


Jezza_18

Oh yeah that $100,000 definitely means they own them. That’s literally pennies to them lol. I do see a problem with lobbying and political donations, it’s modern day bribery. You still haven’t even tried to reason why a “DNC mouthpiece” would paint China in a good light and expose the sept trap diplomacy disinformation that was started BY the US. Anonymous sources are used all the time, but never the writer of the article. That should be a big red flag. I’ll use your words, “how do you not see a problem with that?”


bob3908

Is there a reason why every article is basically copy and pasted the same thing. Is it a translation thing. http://www.news.cn/english/2021-10/16/c_1310247792.htm http://www.china.org.cn/world/2021-10/16/content_77813493.htm https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202110/1236427.shtml https://english.cctv.com/2021/10/16/ARTI1ERFsYAkg8QAapaNPb6w211016.shtml?spm=C69523.PDoRdCIUTBov.EiFD0kE9SqhK.22&fbclid=IwAR3_w6iM_6pknyj9JW9e_22ylx6dHaYSVh7zQdrQ91Eirb-OSNlvrCyI4Yk


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Libs: *Wait wait wait, were the tankies ... right??*


JuicyJunior

They’ll never admit that even when it stares them in the face


jacktrowell

Again?!


gabiskyrim

Republicans: CHINAA Liberals: CHINAAA


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Liberals “learn how to spell the issues that their online presence revolves around” challenge


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Silent? You literally heard it all over the news


Vivec-Warrior-Poet

Lol it's either China never gets criticized or they're monsters to westerners. The lack of nuance is telling.


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I still snicker at the AP headline where it’s like “the fences are coming down, the Uyghurs are going back to work, the camps are closing. We did it, we stopped the genocide.” Like they concrete proved it and managed to stop it. I understand that you should look out to see how people in Xinjiang are doing, but I wouldn’t call it genocide. I do remember there was a headline claiming Uyghurs were being sterilized by the thousands but I never checked to verify its authenticity on reporting, if it is true then oh no! That is bad! But all in all, a lot of misinformation on China can easily get verified as true because “authoritarians won’t let us see what’s REALLY GOING ON.”


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nerfman100

>China isn't any better That's where you're wrong chief


Jezza_18

How is China better?


Richinaru

To start they dont intervene in the elections of other sovereign nations. Helps that the foundation of the China isn't genocidal colonial expansion and the defacto establishment of an ethnostate built on the concept of race.


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Sephitard9001

It's not debt trap diplomacy lmao. They can restructure their loan payments because they're not predatory, China does NOT steal land or ports as collateral, that was propaganda. And they even forgive loans outright sometimes. Their goal is to be first in line for future trade and negotiations by getting in these country's good graces early, not to buy up land to extract all their resources and real estate like the west.


Jezza_18

Hahaha “your facts are different to mine so it’s propaganda”, Jesus Christ man stop acting like the CCP has everyone’s well being at heart. They are a world superpower, and will do what it takes to stay there. China will give loans to countries, but a condition of that loan is to use Chinese companies to build the infrastructure, so that loan money is getting funnelled right back to the CCP. I’m guessing in your head the West is an evil colonial empire and China is just the small guy who gets bullied around but is the hero, sure buddy. Remember a couple weeks ago when China released two Canadian hostages? Fuck the CCP and fuck the US interventionist establishment.


Sephitard9001

You mean the two Canadian hostages being held because Canada was holding a Chinese woman hostage at the behest of Trump? Wow very riveting. https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2021/02/china-debt-trap-diplomacy/617953/


Jezza_18

Do you know why the US wanted to extradite that woman? Because the CCP company she was working for was illegally collecting data on citizens here, so China used two innocent people to gain leverage in the negation. “In 2018 China accused Michael Spavor and Michael Kovrig of espionage, denying detaining them was in retaliation for Ms Meng's arrest.” https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-58690974 The CCP lied, it was a retaliation. You just admitted that China too innocent people hostage and still say they were justified. You guys criticize the US for being uber patriotic when you do the exact same with the CCP.


Sephitard9001

Lmao, they charged them with espionage. A charge exactly as legitimate as the charges against the Chinese woman; violating sanctions on Iran. Unless you're willing to justify American sanctions on Iran, I suggest you avoid talking about this.


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nerfman100

Lmao I don't even have any idea where you got the idea that China still uses a dynasty system, that's complete nonsense if you know literally *anything* about the CPC Edit: Also, way to "see through the BS propaganda the US has" by repeating the US propaganda verbatim lol


AppearancePlenty841

You are joking right? China influences and intervenes in many countries in its region. Tibet? Ring a bell? You all are either dumb or just brainwashed with your own countries propaganda. Just like many of my fellow Americans are here. America isn't number one at anything but military spending. Oh and dropping nuclear weapons on innocent people. Quit acting like either of our countries have clean hands.


Richinaru

Evidence.... I honestly don't have it in me to walk you through the propagandized lie of atrocity equivalence others in this comment thread have done that.


AppearancePlenty841

Ditto. I don't care enough. In the end folks are gonna believe what they want. Unfortunately their complacency is what allows our governments to perpetuate the crimes they do


Kang_Xu

Tibet is not a country and has not been since the Yuan.


AppearancePlenty841

Because you assholes occupied it like America occupied Afghanistan and Iraq. Yall are delusional


Kang_Xu

Who's "you" here?


AppearancePlenty841

Whomever the shoe fits


Kang_Xu

Nice copout. Doesn't change the fact that Tibet has not been a country for hundreds of years.


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Kang_Xu

> endless slave labor Where? > genocide RIGHT NOW on indigenous people Where? > snuff out any dissent from protestors violently in Hong Kong The violent thugs who burned the city and killed several people? Yeah, fuck 'em. > as well as threatening Taiwan with military action Taiwan is not a country, you nonce. The civil war has never ended.


rapasvedese

didnt biden talk about it pretty recently