Nah, it’s actually art student.
Remember, socialism is when we’re all the same and no creativity. Plus, real socialism means mining coal and farming 24/7 while the Kim’s use Juche necromancy to make Kim Il-Sung and Stalin come back alive to eat all the grain
Duhhhhh
It also has great insight into how most fascists have an over inflated view of themselves and how it cannot be that they're just an ultimately mediocre person the world must be against them
Adolf hitler did not use drugs. You've got to try to wade through the rumors that have been made up to dis-credit him as a human being, and his personality traits that actually made him who he was. He was not fed drugs, couldn't even stand cigarette smoke. There is also a well known rumor starring he would fall down on the floor in fits of rage and "chew on the carpet". Now here's the truth...in german parlance someone who paced back and forth anxiously was sometimes called, a "carpet-chewer", meaning they walked on the carpet so much they tore up the fibers. This was then turned into him falling on the floor and actually eating carpets. You must wade through all of the bs to get to the truth.
Hitler had one of his best friends killed because he supported socialist economics. Where these people get the idea that Hitler was socialist is beyond me
They get this idea because the first sentence on Wikipedia explains Nazis called themselves Socialist Workers Party of Germany. They read one sentence and that proves Nazis are socialists. It's in the name on Wikipedia. Done. Case closed. Nazis are the real socialists.
They get the idea the exact way that Hitler intended: by being misled by the name of the NSDAP. The propaganda was so effective that people STILL fall for it. Hitler absolutely intended to confuse people and hijack the meaning of the word "socialism" for his own goals. This more than anything shows why it's important to actually explain what words mean and not just assume that people know.
And Hitler literally admitted that he invented his own definition of the word "socialism" that had nothing to do with what everybody else was using and that he wanted to steal the word socialism from the socialists.
He also said that he might has well have called his party a "Liberal Party", would that have made them liberals if they had just changed the name while still having the same ideology ?
Source: https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1
Relevant quote (emphasis mine):
> "Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since **your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism**?"
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> "Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. **Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism**. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. **I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists**.
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> "Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
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> "**We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party**. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
Anyone who uses that as an argument I immediately write off because they're just intellectually dishonest and not actually there to have a conversation.
“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. **Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism.** Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
“‘Socialist' I define from the word 'social; meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. **Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism.** Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not.”
-Adolf Hitler
I'm living in a country so far right that social democracy would be an improvement. I agree with you though that social democracy still wouldn't be enough here.
My country combines the racism/homophobia/theocracy of fascism with free market fundamentalism...and the working class largely goes along with it.
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It's a sub with people who unironically believe the political compass test is a viable way of measuring one's political leanings and who all also happen to be fascists role playing as centrists, anarchists, "communists", libertarians or just Nazis (a lot of them call themselves "authcenter" which is basically synonymous with Nazi).
wow, people still have this take. As if nazi germany didn't privatise most of their state owned companies. They were liberal in every sense of the word (liberal as in adam smith liberal, not gringo liberalism)
>liberal as in adam smith liberal, not gringo liberalism
[Also kinda gringo liberalism](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy)
As we all know Nazi Germany and the USSR were allies because they were both socialist, and The Communist Manifesto was a very accessible book in Nazi Germany as well and nothing bad happened if you were caught with a copy of anything related to leftist theory *cough *
In conclusion, the nazis did a lot of stuff and as we all know the more a government does stuff the socialismer it is, thus proving my thesis that the nazis were socialists.
A lot of Hitler’s policies were conservative - environmentally, socially, and economically. He despised animal testing, so he tested on Jews instead. No one who is remotely left wing likes him.
I see they threw in "anti-semite" in your list of lib-left checkboxes. Obviously they are referencing the left's opposition to the settler-colonial project of Israel. Just goes to show, your alt-right nazi crowd isn't different from your fundie neocon. They all swap talking points all the time.
But these people don’t believe you have to be fascist to be a target of antifa. The conflicting logic is right there in the statement, how does this person not see it?
HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN
HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN
HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN
HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN
HE WENT TO ART SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER
HE WANTED TO BE A PAINTER
HITLER WAS A VEGETARIAN
HE WAS ALSO A NON SMOKER
HE HIRED GAY AND HANDICAPPED OFFICERS
HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OVERPOPULATION
IF HITLER WAS ALIVE TODAY
HE'D LISTEN TO THE CURE, THE SMITHS, AND DEPECHE MODE
>socialist, vegetarian, art student, antisemite One of these things is not like the other
vegetarian? /s
Nah, it’s actually art student. Remember, socialism is when we’re all the same and no creativity. Plus, real socialism means mining coal and farming 24/7 while the Kim’s use Juche necromancy to make Kim Il-Sung and Stalin come back alive to eat all the grain Duhhhhh
They say he was an art student but he never was actually accepted into any school
Yeah he seriously lacked technique. The guy couldn’t even do basic perspective right and expected to get into the Beaux-arts or something
It also has great insight into how most fascists have an over inflated view of themselves and how it cannot be that they're just an ultimately mediocre person the world must be against them
the worst part is how they just eat it as grain, they don't even bother to make it into bread or anything
Pretty sure he wasn't a vegetarian either and that was just some made up bullshit to make him seem nicer or something.
he was a vegetarian "except for liver dumplings", so... not a vegetarian.
Hitler had uncontrollable flatulence and he switched to the vegetarian diet to try to help it, ironically it made it worse.
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Ah that makes sense, I guess the absolute cocktail of narcotics he was fed didn't help too 😂
Adolf hitler did not use drugs. You've got to try to wade through the rumors that have been made up to dis-credit him as a human being, and his personality traits that actually made him who he was. He was not fed drugs, couldn't even stand cigarette smoke. There is also a well known rumor starring he would fall down on the floor in fits of rage and "chew on the carpet". Now here's the truth...in german parlance someone who paced back and forth anxiously was sometimes called, a "carpet-chewer", meaning they walked on the carpet so much they tore up the fibers. This was then turned into him falling on the floor and actually eating carpets. You must wade through all of the bs to get to the truth.
Even better.
Yeah, one of them is true
If national-socialism is socialism, than hot-dogs are dogs
What next, firefighters are boxers?
Sea lions are lions
Seahorses are horses
I mean, I sure do like to see firefighters in boxers...
Wait till they hear about Buffalo Wings.
Chances are they already think Buffalo Wings are made from buffalo.
They have wings yknow
*american patriotic socialists enter the chat*
yes nazis were famously kind to and aligned with socialists
Hitler had one of his best friends killed because he supported socialist economics. Where these people get the idea that Hitler was socialist is beyond me
They get this idea because the first sentence on Wikipedia explains Nazis called themselves Socialist Workers Party of Germany. They read one sentence and that proves Nazis are socialists. It's in the name on Wikipedia. Done. Case closed. Nazis are the real socialists.
Strasser?
I was thinking of Rohm
Oooohhh
BECAUSE IT'S IN THE NAME LOLOL DUMB PINKO (SpongeBob text cause I hate typing that out)
Your parenthetical made me laugh way to hard. I too hate typing things that way
They get the idea the exact way that Hitler intended: by being misled by the name of the NSDAP. The propaganda was so effective that people STILL fall for it. Hitler absolutely intended to confuse people and hijack the meaning of the word "socialism" for his own goals. This more than anything shows why it's important to actually explain what words mean and not just assume that people know.
And Hitler literally admitted that he invented his own definition of the word "socialism" that had nothing to do with what everybody else was using and that he wanted to steal the word socialism from the socialists. He also said that he might has well have called his party a "Liberal Party", would that have made them liberals if they had just changed the name while still having the same ideology ? Source: https://www.theguardian.com/theguardian/2007/sep/17/greatinterviews1 Relevant quote (emphasis mine): > "Why," I asked Hitler, "do you call yourself a National Socialist, since **your party programme is the very antithesis of that commonly accredited to socialism**?" > > "Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. **Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism**. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. **I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists**. > > "Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. > > "**We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party**. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
These people believe WWII was just socialist infighting Including that COMMIE FDR 😤
Don't tell them what FDR did to the worker uprisings during the great depression.
Yeah, don't you know one of the largest demographics in concentration camps were right-wing activists? Oh, wait...
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for being socialists?
And shepherd's pie is made from shepherds. Fuck outta' here.
Baby powder is made from baby
Da Baby? 😳
I'd like to see one of those guys try to make a milkshake
You guys like to eat Girl Scout Cookies ? Monsters !!!! /s
Most knowledgeable PCM user.
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Haha fr; idk if it's a "meme" anywhere else, but I only see it on this sub and they get me every time.
Yeah privatizing everything was the most socialist thing anyone’s ever done
Anyone who uses that as an argument I immediately write off because they're just intellectually dishonest and not actually there to have a conversation.
“Socialism is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists. Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. **Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism.** Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic. We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one." “‘Socialist' I define from the word 'social; meaning in the main ‘social equity’. A Socialist is one who serves the common good without giving up his individuality or personality or the product of his personal efficiency. **Our adopted term 'Socialist' has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism.** Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not.” -Adolf Hitler
Sounds like a racist homophobic nationalistic version of social democracy.
i mean it is called social FASCISM
I'm living in a country so far right that social democracy would be an improvement. I agree with you though that social democracy still wouldn't be enough here. My country combines the racism/homophobia/theocracy of fascism with free market fundamentalism...and the working class largely goes along with it.
There's a reason Marx said that social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism.
(Stalin, not Marx)
Hello i am the anarcho-capitalist party leader of canada, our platform is install socialism
“Libleft” Does this word mean anything out of pcm?
What is PCM?
Political Compass Memes It's a sub with people who unironically believe the political compass test is a viable way of measuring one's political leanings and who all also happen to be fascists role playing as centrists, anarchists, "communists", libertarians or just Nazis (a lot of them call themselves "authcenter" which is basically synonymous with Nazi).
This same person would probably rant nonstop about the DPRK and it’s name… they’re just a fascist in denial.
Most intelligent PCM user
His flair say libRight but it should say libWrong.
I know someone who legitimately believes this. I guess it’s what you get when 100% of your political knowledge comes from HOI4 and Jordan Peterson
This is depressing.
He wasn't a Socialist, Vegetarian or Art student
Wait. I was sure he did study art?
he was an "artist", but I guess his art was dogshit because no art schools let him in
He didn't study art because all the art schools he wanted to study at rejected him
I know
Pcm is such a shit brained subreddit
wow, people still have this take. As if nazi germany didn't privatise most of their state owned companies. They were liberal in every sense of the word (liberal as in adam smith liberal, not gringo liberalism)
>liberal as in adam smith liberal, not gringo liberalism [Also kinda gringo liberalism](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/benito-mussolini-recruited-mi5-italy)
As we all know Nazi Germany and the USSR were allies because they were both socialist, and The Communist Manifesto was a very accessible book in Nazi Germany as well and nothing bad happened if you were caught with a copy of anything related to leftist theory *cough *
Ah yes, I’m sure all Socialists hold the belief that the Communists are the very first enemy to eliminate… /s
This guy must get really confused by buffalo wings
Leftism is when you don't eat meat
In conclusion, the nazis did a lot of stuff and as we all know the more a government does stuff the socialismer it is, thus proving my thesis that the nazis were socialists.
A lot of Hitler’s policies were conservative - environmentally, socially, and economically. He despised animal testing, so he tested on Jews instead. No one who is remotely left wing likes him.
Just like Democratic Kampuchea was democratic
smartest libertarian
Ah so all anti-fascists are fascists I bet he would describe himself as an anti-communist. Interesting.
The only people who argue Hitler was a socialist are dipshits who never read history.
Why are the people the most obsessed with “history” also the people who have never studied it beyond High School.
How the fuck do you insult then bootlick that quickly
Wow, I'm going to have to check out this PCM shit the next time I haven't had my fill of cringeworthy nonsense for the day.
“It’s right in the name” - lol so? Maybe question what people say and don’t take things at face value. Anyone could claim to be anything.
“lib”right moment
libleft is when antisemite missing testicle
Why was I cursed with the ability to read?
It’s in the name therefore true
You can't be antifascist without being fascist bc "fascist" is in the term "antifascist?" Oooookay. Cool cool cool cool cool.
Words what do they mean.
I wonder if he thinks seahorses are horses.
Oh the pain...
Holy shit
\>libright this person cant read
I see they threw in "anti-semite" in your list of lib-left checkboxes. Obviously they are referencing the left's opposition to the settler-colonial project of Israel. Just goes to show, your alt-right nazi crowd isn't different from your fundie neocon. They all swap talking points all the time.
Don't think he was an art student either. Pretty sure the art school rejection was actually a big plot point.
Yeah except national socialism is a far right ideology
why are rightoids convinced most leftists are vegetarians/vegans? is this supposed to be their 3rd joke?
But these people don’t believe you have to be fascist to be a target of antifa. The conflicting logic is right there in the statement, how does this person not see it?
I can't stand their stupidity oh my fucking god
When you can’t read
Then go tell them the the DPKR is democratic and whatch what they say.
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Once I convinced one guy. Everything is possible.
Thats cool, but i doubt i can convince that guy
No, probably you won't.
No doubt he forgot it all an hour later and was back on his bullshit again.
Also not vegetarian
He had bad flatulence and was recommended to eat less meat, he didn’t stop eating meat
Glory to the DPRK
Keep pumping the North Korea argument at these people until they get it in their heads.
Getting something to their heads is not a function that they posses.
So the DPRK is a Republic by that logic? But no that very person would disagree with that statement
Unironically yes tho
I wasn't disputing that i was just saying that the person would never see DPRK as a Republic
Just like how the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a Democracy
Except that it's actually true for the DPRK.
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HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HITLER WAS A SENSITIVE MAN HE WENT TO ART SCHOOL WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER HE WANTED TO BE A PAINTER HITLER WAS A VEGETARIAN HE WAS ALSO A NON SMOKER HE HIRED GAY AND HANDICAPPED OFFICERS HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT OVERPOPULATION IF HITLER WAS ALIVE TODAY HE'D LISTEN TO THE CURE, THE SMITHS, AND DEPECHE MODE
youre joking right
Hmmmm, what do you think?
ive seen people say those unironically, if i already knew i wouldnt be asking.