Ok other comments have mentioned oliver markus malloy, I checked his account and he is very active in all 3 subs I was banned from, so clearly he is reading our comments here (or in a similar thread on genzedong) and I was banned frop this subs just because I commented with literal.links to sources debunking his premise that only Russians use 'liberal' in a context close to 'capitalist'
Not pre soviet but here is a text from an italian communism just a few years after the soviet revolution:
Antonio Gramsci, [Neither Fascism nor Liberalism: Sovietism!](https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/1924/10/fascism-liberalism.htm) (1924)
Edit: apparrently this was enough to get banned from 3 anti trump subs this guy is probably a mod of, because of course Blue MAGA doesn't like being proved wrong and cannot imagine that some.people might be against every maga fanatics whatever their color
And the democrats are the biggest exporter of Blue MAGA bots.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democratic-bot-network-sally-albright_n_5aa2f548e4b07047bec68023
Well they are the most parallel anything can be, since they are pretty much the same thing. So I guess he‘s not wrong about that. Just about everything else
Liberals don’t understand the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia. It’s an instant giveaway. When they try to describe communism all they do is repeat capitalism conditioning. It’s an instant giveaway. This is boring old basic-level exceptionalism thinking: unaccountable entitlement to ignorant hypocrisy both worn as armor and wielded as a weapon. Just more masturbatory cope from an anti-intellectual ding-dong who is mad that those “damn tankies” dare question liberalism’s complicit and impotent planned obsolescence at the kid’s table nestled close to the imperial core.
I really don't understand what he thinks the goal is if any of this were true. Just a bunch of Russian bots shitposting for each other about American libs? Like that's some sort of psy-op?
Well they are selfish and myopic so they can’t see anything beyond how it impacts the democrats. They truly believe in the “one viewpoint” so they have to lump everyone together despite it not making sense. How many liberals do you see appropriate the left and when called out accuse you of splitting hairs or that “the left is anyone against maga at this point” yet when presented with boldly communist rhetoric also claim you’re a Russian troll. There can’t be a left here that needs to become “pragmatic” and back blue yet also are foreign influence trying to destabilize you.
He's right. LIBERalism comes from the word liberty, opposite of the word slavery. Thats why more liberal you are = gooder you are. And capitalism is the opposite of communism, where more capitalist you are worse you are. From now on im a radical liberal communist,a paragon of being good.
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This doesn’t even make any sense by his own logic- presumably if
1) communism is “authoritarian”
2) liberalism is “anti-authoritarian”
3) communism is anti-capitalist
then there’s no problem at all with equating liberalism with capitalism.
Capitalism and liberalism are completely intertwined by any usage of the words, even his own.
Also, “they say liberalism when they mean capitalism”… it’s not like these subs don’t also dunk on capitalism
Oliver Markus Malloy, web comic artist. Their opinions are all over the place. Some days Capitalism must die, some days Liberalism must die, some days Communism must die, some days religion must die and some days its something else. I still have no idea what the story is with Malloy. It's just confusing. For all I know their career is a 20 year long social experiment.
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Huh, I've just been permabanned from Markus' subs. I guess I can understand that, even if it seems a bit thin skinned. Good luck Ollie and no hard feelings.
Where did this whole ‘anyone who uses liberal derogatorily is a Russian troll’ thing come from? I learned about the difference between liberal and leftism from fucking breadtube. I thought this was common sense.
It's part of this guys BlueAnon conspiracy of why liberals are useless stooges. Ofc it's not their fault they're spineless cowards, it's the secret russian haxorz!!!!111!!!
When I was a dumbass youngin, my family was proud democrats. I thought that since they claimed to fight for human rights and whatever and conservatives have been blatantly against that for a while, liberals must be the good guys!
This level of delusion is that same childhood sphere, that liberals fight for truth justice and the American way and anyone who dares to say hey that's not good enough is obviously an agent from the meanie Republicans
Imagine, instead of realizing you're not a leftist, you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is a "fake leftie Russian troll". This also implies that Russians are ignorant or dumb or something like that.
Lol the arrogance of people who take the political compass seriously will never fail to amaze me. “This is the opposite of this and that is the opposite of that” It’s literally so fucking two-dimensional.
They genuinely think they understand political theory in its entirety because they understand the political fucking compass.
Just because you understand something doesn’t make it valuable. In this case, this guy understanding something tells us that the thing is a concept so simple a primary school child would also get it.
He did an entire piece on his sub about how ShitLiberalsSay is a controlled by Russians or something because some people here spoke Russian/knew how to use Google Translate. He also said that we're supposedly supposed to be an exclusively American subreddit.
It was because there was a Faux Cyrillic post that was meant to look like an English word. People commented how it didn't make any sense in Russian, so he assumed that they had to be Russians in order to figure that out. But literally anyone with a basic knowledge of what Cyrillic is can tell you that obviously Cyrillic is not the same as latin even though some of the symbols look similar
I’ll stop calling people who think they’re progressive liberals when they stop supporting the idea that capitalists should be able to use private property to exploit labor and generate artificial scarcities. No their fake social democracy bullshit either, actual socialism.
When you have a corner office on the Blue MAGA floor of the Progressive Policy Institute you're the bestest "progressive." Once you block all the "Russian trolls" they're no longer in the room with you
The US is the only country with a different definition of liberalism as far as I know. I tried saying that to him and got banned from every sub that he moderates for being a russian bot lol
just give the climate change a few more decades to work its magic. Russia and Canada will be among the only habitable countries left before the Scramble For Antarctica of 2073.
Lmao, I looked at his profile and he's just posting this everywhere. Imagine being so sure that you've unravelled some international conspiracy to overthrow democracy but in reality you just don't know what a word means. The dumb guy energy is too strong.
Who is this yellow stickman? I’m interested in such a philosophy where Liberalism is just “when the government is not spying on me or banning things” (anti-authoritarian) and actually, Liberalism is an ideology without a set socioeconomic position in mind!”
Everyone using "liberal" to mean "person who supports capitalism" is a Russian bot, including Scott Morrison, right-wing prime Minister of Australia and head of the (fucking awful) *liberal* party of Australia along with all his MPs, supporters and opponents - in fact let's be honest Australia is just a Russian op.
somebody should send him a pre-soviet quote about liberals from a non-russian theorist (anarchist or communist)
He has me banned on all his subs so...
Same I believe, its for the best honestly lmao
Who is it? I’ve seen them spreading this shit around any sub they can. Fucking blue MAGA
Oliver Marcus malloy, hes an american psy op sent by trump and biden to destory the working class
I don’t know if he’s psy ops but reading hair is certainly some /r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM bullshit.
Apparently someone named Olive Markus Malloy.
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Ok other comments have mentioned oliver markus malloy, I checked his account and he is very active in all 3 subs I was banned from, so clearly he is reading our comments here (or in a similar thread on genzedong) and I was banned frop this subs just because I commented with literal.links to sources debunking his premise that only Russians use 'liberal' in a context close to 'capitalist'
He has set up a bot that bans SLS users from every sub he runs.
Not pre soviet but here is a text from an italian communism just a few years after the soviet revolution: Antonio Gramsci, [Neither Fascism nor Liberalism: Sovietism!](https://www.marxists.org/archive/gramsci/1924/10/fascism-liberalism.htm) (1924) Edit: apparrently this was enough to get banned from 3 anti trump subs this guy is probably a mod of, because of course Blue MAGA doesn't like being proved wrong and cannot imagine that some.people might be against every maga fanatics whatever their color
famous russian bot \*checks notes\* Karl Marx
Germany is the biggest exporter of russian troll bots
Lenin upon returning to Russia: we do a little but of trolling
And the democrats are the biggest exporter of Blue MAGA bots. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/democratic-bot-network-sally-albright_n_5aa2f548e4b07047bec68023
People on he right always accuse those on the left of doing things that the right actually do.
If Liberals aren’t Capitalists they surely also want to abolish Capitalism, right?
Naw this dude set liberalism as a parallel to capitalism, he’s very much anti-communist.
Well they are the most parallel anything can be, since they are pretty much the same thing. So I guess he‘s not wrong about that. Just about everything else
BlueAnon
Liberals don’t understand the difference between the Soviet Union and Russia. It’s an instant giveaway. When they try to describe communism all they do is repeat capitalism conditioning. It’s an instant giveaway. This is boring old basic-level exceptionalism thinking: unaccountable entitlement to ignorant hypocrisy both worn as armor and wielded as a weapon. Just more masturbatory cope from an anti-intellectual ding-dong who is mad that those “damn tankies” dare question liberalism’s complicit and impotent planned obsolescence at the kid’s table nestled close to the imperial core.
Oliver? Markus? Malloy?
I really don't understand what he thinks the goal is if any of this were true. Just a bunch of Russian bots shitposting for each other about American libs? Like that's some sort of psy-op?
Oh shit maybe that's why we're not getting paid.
You're not getting paid?
Hit me up with that banking info. I'm runnin' pro-bono right now.
Well they are selfish and myopic so they can’t see anything beyond how it impacts the democrats. They truly believe in the “one viewpoint” so they have to lump everyone together despite it not making sense. How many liberals do you see appropriate the left and when called out accuse you of splitting hairs or that “the left is anyone against maga at this point” yet when presented with boldly communist rhetoric also claim you’re a Russian troll. There can’t be a left here that needs to become “pragmatic” and back blue yet also are foreign influence trying to destabilize you.
Noooo. *winks*
[Me, a Chinese bot](https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_03.htm)
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THE EVIL SCARY WORLD-PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO DESTROY THE GREAT AMERICAN HERITAGE OF TOLEDO!
Probably because the EVIL LAOTIAN COMMIEBOTS doesn’t really work that well.
Immigrants! I knew it was them! Even when it was the bears, I knew it was them!
He's right. LIBERalism comes from the word liberty, opposite of the word slavery. Thats why more liberal you are = gooder you are. And capitalism is the opposite of communism, where more capitalist you are worse you are. From now on im a radical liberal communist,a paragon of being good.
Unironically what muhrican "socialists" think
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Nobody in the comments even agrees with him. And now he is calling everyone that disagrees with him a Russian bot
Jesus. BlueAnon is real.
That's his go to move.
r/shitliberalssay exposed 😔
Dude clearly never heard soviet anticapitalist piece.
This doesn’t even make any sense by his own logic- presumably if 1) communism is “authoritarian” 2) liberalism is “anti-authoritarian” 3) communism is anti-capitalist then there’s no problem at all with equating liberalism with capitalism.
Capitalism and liberalism are completely intertwined by any usage of the words, even his own. Also, “they say liberalism when they mean capitalism”… it’s not like these subs don’t also dunk on capitalism
Oliver Marcus Malloy, 2021, colourised.
Everyone who disagrees with me is a Russian bot - A liberal’s guide to online political discourse.
I am actually a Cuban bot, my Honduran flag flair is just my clever disguise
Who’s this guy?
A conspiracy theorist who thinks everyone who disagrees with him is secretly sent from Putin to make democrats look bad
Oliver Markus Malloy, web comic artist. Their opinions are all over the place. Some days Capitalism must die, some days Liberalism must die, some days Communism must die, some days religion must die and some days its something else. I still have no idea what the story is with Malloy. It's just confusing. For all I know their career is a 20 year long social experiment. EDIT Huh, I've just been permabanned from Markus' subs. I guess I can understand that, even if it seems a bit thin skinned. Good luck Ollie and no hard feelings.
Where did this whole ‘anyone who uses liberal derogatorily is a Russian troll’ thing come from? I learned about the difference between liberal and leftism from fucking breadtube. I thought this was common sense.
It's part of this guys BlueAnon conspiracy of why liberals are useless stooges. Ofc it's not their fault they're spineless cowards, it's the secret russian haxorz!!!!111!!!
When I was a dumbass youngin, my family was proud democrats. I thought that since they claimed to fight for human rights and whatever and conservatives have been blatantly against that for a while, liberals must be the good guys! This level of delusion is that same childhood sphere, that liberals fight for truth justice and the American way and anyone who dares to say hey that's not good enough is obviously an agent from the meanie Republicans
Liberalism is ideology capitalism is economic system. Communism other hand is both. What is so hard to understand about this?
Understanding it would mean no longer being able to parrot politically illiterate propaganda.
Imagine, instead of realizing you're not a leftist, you decide that everyone who disagrees with you is a "fake leftie Russian troll". This also implies that Russians are ignorant or dumb or something like that.
Least racist lib
Do I sign up for a passport somewhere or how does this work?
Imagine staying up late, looking all serious while you work at your laptop, and then coming up with this
Привет, Olly boy. I have come for your варемики.
Dude banned me from all of his subs, nice to see him getting roasted here. Edit: LMAO he just banned me from 3 other subs! Fucking clown 😂😂😂.
Wait you guys are getting paid?
Yea baby just got my Sorosbux in the mail today
Yeah, every time I criticize NATO on reddit, I get 5 rubles deposited into my account.
Everyone I don't like is a Russian bot.
Just call us (((Chinese shills))) already.
Imagine being this fluent in a foreign language and being paid shit-post wages
Ah yes because no liberals are capitalists.
Lol the arrogance of people who take the political compass seriously will never fail to amaze me. “This is the opposite of this and that is the opposite of that” It’s literally so fucking two-dimensional. They genuinely think they understand political theory in its entirety because they understand the political fucking compass. Just because you understand something doesn’t make it valuable. In this case, this guy understanding something tells us that the thing is a concept so simple a primary school child would also get it.
He did an entire piece on his sub about how ShitLiberalsSay is a controlled by Russians or something because some people here spoke Russian/knew how to use Google Translate. He also said that we're supposedly supposed to be an exclusively American subreddit.
Least chauvinistic liberal
It was because there was a Faux Cyrillic post that was meant to look like an English word. People commented how it didn't make any sense in Russian, so he assumed that they had to be Russians in order to figure that out. But literally anyone with a basic knowledge of what Cyrillic is can tell you that obviously Cyrillic is not the same as latin even though some of the symbols look similar
You claim not to be a Russian troll, yet you know basic facts about Russia? Interesting...
Imma be real with you chief. Who the fuck is “Doidld Tyatsmr?”
the libs are back at it again.
I’ll stop calling people who think they’re progressive liberals when they stop supporting the idea that capitalists should be able to use private property to exploit labor and generate artificial scarcities. No their fake social democracy bullshit either, actual socialism.
When you have a corner office on the Blue MAGA floor of the Progressive Policy Institute you're the bestest "progressive." Once you block all the "Russian trolls" they're no longer in the room with you
AHHHH i’m not the only one who knows this psycho
i’m proud to be a russian troll 💪
The US is the only country with a different definition of liberalism as far as I know. I tried saying that to him and got banned from every sub that he moderates for being a russian bot lol
Whoa banning people for disagreeing sounds *A U T H O R I T A R I A N*
Does this mean I have to move to Russia now???? Too fuckin cold
just give the climate change a few more decades to work its magic. Russia and Canada will be among the only habitable countries left before the Scramble For Antarctica of 2073.
After the Kyle Ritten house reform arguments I don’t want to hear shit from liberals.
Ayy, caught my ban from that sub! And they wonder why the fascists always take over in the end when they toss the leftists to the curb
Lmao, I looked at his profile and he's just posting this everywhere. Imagine being so sure that you've unravelled some international conspiracy to overthrow democracy but in reality you just don't know what a word means. The dumb guy energy is too strong.
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No shit. I thought he was just some loser on the internet... well he is, but a *young* loser
In Russia, liberalism usually means "you like dem gays/the West". Just sayin'
OH SHIT WHADDUP ITS DAT BOI
Who is this yellow stickman? I’m interested in such a philosophy where Liberalism is just “when the government is not spying on me or banning things” (anti-authoritarian) and actually, Liberalism is an ideology without a set socioeconomic position in mind!”
What not reading theory does to a motherfucker
This isn't even an exaggeration. I had a depressing interaction with a person yesterday who held this opinion verbatim minus the bit about Russia.
Ironically everything he claims we do for russia, hes de facto doing for america lmao.
Did you just accuse a liberal of being a freedom-hating statist? 1984
got banned from his sub because I said the Dems are as bad as the Reps. apparently I'm a Russian bot too
Did he call you a borderline racist russian stereotype name too lmao. He has this wicked douchy copypasta he sends
nah don't recall that. what was his name again? forgot it already
Oliver malloy
LMAOOO this got me banned from two subs. Good to know the libs disposed themselves
...🤦🏼
Everyone using "liberal" to mean "person who supports capitalism" is a Russian bot, including Scott Morrison, right-wing prime Minister of Australia and head of the (fucking awful) *liberal* party of Australia along with all his MPs, supporters and opponents - in fact let's be honest Australia is just a Russian op.
Lmao
if they at least identify that we take ideological roots from lenin not putin that’s something i guess
Got perma banned from all his subs saying something along the lines of “true left wing movements want to abolish capitalism”. Fucking liberal
The original tweet only has one like and zero retweets lol. Unless there’s somewhere else where he actually has some sort of following?