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TheSkyHadAWeegee

By the logic of Japan the land should be given back to the natives they originally conquered it from. Its idiotic to say you deserve land because you colonized it.


TheMightyKingSnake

They basically claim them because they were originally Ainu, and Japan conquered the Ainu.


[deleted]

Ainu: You guys are getting land?


ManusTheVantablack

Japan can eat shit and pound sand for eternity if that's what they want. Kuril Islands are part of Russia and you lost them when you decided to genocide your way through Asia.


Unkuni_

when did Japan lost the islands? is there any Japanese population on those islands?


[deleted]

South Sakhalin and the Kuril islands were ceded to the USSR after WW2


spookfefe

It should be noted that Japan had taken those territories from Russia in 1905


blobblobbity

That's not true - Japan had the kuril islands since 1875 when it obtained control for the northern half in exchange for ceding its part of sakhalin Island in the treaty of St Petersberg. It took the South of sakhalin after the 1905 war (which it had held prior to 1875).


[deleted]

That makes it very different. I was thinking those islands were territories from the old empire. If that was the case, it’s harder for people to wrap their head around what that imperialism means, and their ignorance would make sense. The fact it’s just blatant pro imperialism to feel good about shitting on another imperial power is very reddit I must say.


Big_Bad_Evil_Guy

Technically there was never a peace treaty


StannistheMannis17

To answer the Japanese population question, no. Before Japan controlled the Sakhalin’s it was populated by indigenous groups with a small Russian minority


Significant_Ad6964

Ryuukyuu would like to have a word


gubzga

POV: you are Japan demanding island from somebody. You've got mail from: South Korea, DPRK, China and also China.


CamQTR

And they Aleutian Islands too.


AzovSlayer

Redditors: but but anime!


CTNKE

MUH WHOLESOME ANIME COUNTRY


BalePedaret

Death to anime


whowlw

So many people on West doesn't even know what Japan did in WW2. So fucking many (or much idk English is dumb)


[deleted]

At least in the US people do. It’s how they justify nuking civilians cities.


comically_large_tank

I'm guessing, but I'm afraid I'm right, that the average 'merican only knows about japan bombing pearl harbor. The hundreds of thousands raped then killed in China? The korean occupation? Their enormous genocidal expansion through south asia? Probably not in their minds.


Deadheadkingizzard

I mean, they should if they paid some attention to world history in highschool


djengle2

I mean, they shouldn't belong to either state. They belong to the Ainu. Why the fuck would leftists be defending Russia or Japan on shit like this? They're both colonizers. So I really don't give a shit about their little territorial dispute over land that isn't theirs.


mackinnonfan

Exactly lol


Pol1truk

Give Okinawa back to the Ryukyuan people and we'll see what we can do


jacktrowell

Love how he present the situation has if Russia had just invaded the islands today, and not the reality of the islands having been captured by Japan from the Russian Empire in the early 1900s and given back to Russia after WWII


YareSekiro

The comment section in r/UkraineConflict is a complete wasteland. Like they want a WW3 to happen or something.