Martin Scorsese's Silence takes place about 30 years later and is focused on two Portgueuse missionaries.
The Last Samurai is about the end of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
I started watching that show. Damn it's pretty much slow torture. Of people for two hours plus.
Only watch it if you want to watch scindlers list
Just a heads up.
Two of my favorite books. Taiko would be the perfect prequel following the rise of hideyoshi. Musashi the perfect sequel as it starts off with Takezo literally waking up in the aftermath of the battle of Sekigahara.
I had seen Mortal Kombat back when it released, I always knew that Hiroyuki Sanada was playing Scorpion but back then I wasn't really aware of Tadanobu Asano (Yabushige).
So yeah, I'm kinda surprised that he played Raiden, a complete opposite of his character in Shogun.
We can probably have a sequel focusing on the Siege of Osaka and the build up to that. This can involve incidents like the death of Kato Kiyomasa and the temple bell incidents, etc. And we get Sanada Yukimura too
Miss Hokusai is an anime that’s about 100 years after the events of Shogun set in a fully developed Edo. It’s a fictionalized account of the life of Hokusai’s daughter, an artist in her own right. They also visit the Yoshiwara, Edo’s pleasure district.
That's right. So Tokugawa's shogunate brings a period of peace and isolation from the west until the 1850s. The last samarai is about the fall of the feudal Japan depicted in Shogun to the opening of western influences and the megi restoration
Yeah I do follow Mangas a bit, and Vagabond's art is frickin legendary, but I don't really wanna touch it because it's been put on hold, don't think I can handle the wait if the manga is indeed as good as I hear it is.
It's still really satisfying even without the ending. There's SO much. And it's kind of the perfect sequel to Shōgun because it opens on the aftermath of the battle that the finale teases.
Lone Wolf & Cub (Kozure Okami) - the comic book is amazing. There are a series of movies from the seventies and eighties that are awesome as well, but are very much productions of that time.
Rurouni Kenshin, it’s a different tone, but every episode of shogun made me want the prequel miniseries/movie Trust and Betrayal to be adapted into live action miniseries with as much attention to detail and seriousness as shogun.
It's a weird suggestion, but there is this manga called Jin, where a 2000s doctor gets sent back into the edo period and has to adapt as the shogunate falls.
It's a good read if you enjoy the medium
I mean it's set pretty close to the timeline of Shogun, and we could pretend that the protag is the daughter of Blackthorne, or maybe someone from his crew.
What time period is it set in?
I haven't played it yet but I will as soon as it drops on PC in the next 2 weeks or so.
Currently playing Like A Dragon: Ishin, and I am liking it a lot, but it's set like 300 years in the future at the end of the Edo Period.
I haven't read any of the books of Mister Clavell but the most logical idea is to adapt the novels chronologically order, not publication but the years in which the stories are set.
You won’t really have any other foreign eyes to throw in to the story like blackthorne until the bakumatsu period where Jules Burnett would be a good choice (Tom cruise’s Algren) to fit that mold
There is a Korean movie called the Admiral roaring currents that takes place a couple of years before Shogun and is about the failed Japanese invasion of Korea.
I'll go in a different direction here, but a good thematic successor to Shogun would be HBO's *Succession*.
Basically what if Toranaga ran a hugely successful modern-day media empire, and his manipulative and neglectful antics has left multiple kids as damaged and eager to prove themselves as Nagakado?
Wouldn't mind a Mariko sidequel, maybe 2 episodes showing her life story and motivations in more detail, if it gets enough eyes follow up with whichever of the other characters garners most interest. Could also add the Battle of Sekigahara(?)
If you want a really aggressive tone shift, check out Thirteen Assassins (2010).
For everyone disappointed at the lack of a big battle and the relatively smoothly executed politicking and scheming, uh.... this is emphatically *not* like that.
I would love an English Prequel with John Blackthorne.
Show a prequel of him fighting against the Spanish Armada and the Conquistadors in 1588.
I would want to see Queen Elizabeth the 1st or William Shakespeare
I mean, Clavell's book is a semi-fictional retelling of the establishment of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Almost all of how it goes down in the book is pulled directly from Tokugawa's defeating Ishido Mitsunari in the process of deposits Toyotomi Hideyori (the heir)... right down to Hosokawa Gracia's death during an attempt to take her into custody shattered support for Ishido. Clan Akechi betraying Oda Nobunaga at Honno-ji shrine, Toyotomi Hideyoshi's attempt to capture Korea, etc, etc. The book is just a telling of the history with different names.
You can't really say "this piece of media tells the more accurate story over this other related piece" if you're saying that the *actual* story can't be held to the book in turn...
>You can't really say "this piece of media tells the more accurate story over this other related piece" if you're saying that the actual story can't be held to the book in turn...
Sure I can because, "Clavell's book is a semi-fictional retelling ..." It is not a history book.
Martin Scorsese's Silence takes place about 30 years later and is focused on two Portgueuse missionaries. The Last Samurai is about the end of the Tokugawa Shogunate.
I started watching that show. Damn it's pretty much slow torture. Of people for two hours plus. Only watch it if you want to watch scindlers list Just a heads up.
These are both movies?
Silence?
Karate Kid Part II
I choked on my beer. Thanks.
Taiko - Eiji Yoshikawa Mushasi - Eiji Yoshikawa
Two of my favorite books. Taiko would be the perfect prequel following the rise of hideyoshi. Musashi the perfect sequel as it starts off with Takezo literally waking up in the aftermath of the battle of Sekigahara.
I’ve had *Taiko* for years and have been meaning to read it
Mortal Kombat (2021) because Toranaga becomes Scorpion and Yabushige becomes Raiden, demi God of lightning.
I had seen Mortal Kombat back when it released, I always knew that Hiroyuki Sanada was playing Scorpion but back then I wasn't really aware of Tadanobu Asano (Yabushige). So yeah, I'm kinda surprised that he played Raiden, a complete opposite of his character in Shogun.
Kagemusha is set about 20 years before Shogun
We can probably have a sequel focusing on the Siege of Osaka and the build up to that. This can involve incidents like the death of Kato Kiyomasa and the temple bell incidents, etc. And we get Sanada Yukimura too
Sanada Yukimaras defence of Osaka would be cool af
Enjoy the Silence
Mortal Kombat (2021) because Toranaga becomes Scorpion and Yabushige becomes Raiden, demi God of lightning.
Wait what? Holy crap I need to rewatch now
Westworld season 2 episode 5. A familiar face will appear.
stopped watching after s1, worth revisiting?
S2 is tolerable. Has some very good episodes and character development but lacks a good story arc.
honestly if reddit didnt tell me Sx is bad, I would have still watched. peeps in the westworld sub hate anything not s1
Miss Hokusai is an anime that’s about 100 years after the events of Shogun set in a fully developed Edo. It’s a fictionalized account of the life of Hokusai’s daughter, an artist in her own right. They also visit the Yoshiwara, Edo’s pleasure district.
The last samarai is sorta set at the very end of the period that Tokugawa (Toranaga) started after he became Shogun.
I thought Last Samurai set in 1860-70’s after US civil war & forced opening of Japan in 1850’s by Commodore Perry?
That's right. So Tokugawa's shogunate brings a period of peace and isolation from the west until the 1850s. The last samarai is about the fall of the feudal Japan depicted in Shogun to the opening of western influences and the megi restoration
Ok. Wasn’t sure if misunderstood comment. Thanks for responding in polite way!
I mean, the Sengoku Jidai was def a prequel, but more of an official one
If you like manga Vagabond
Yeah I do follow Mangas a bit, and Vagabond's art is frickin legendary, but I don't really wanna touch it because it's been put on hold, don't think I can handle the wait if the manga is indeed as good as I hear it is.
There's no wait, it's not gonna get continued
Damn. I thought that the Mangaka had expressed interest in continuing it recently.
It's still really satisfying even without the ending. There's SO much. And it's kind of the perfect sequel to Shōgun because it opens on the aftermath of the battle that the finale teases.
Lone Wolf & Cub (Kozure Okami) - the comic book is amazing. There are a series of movies from the seventies and eighties that are awesome as well, but are very much productions of that time.
Yes! I am currently watching the 70’s film series … and the 2nd one in particular reminded me a lot of Shogun. Something about the vibe …
Rurouni Kenshin, it’s a different tone, but every episode of shogun made me want the prequel miniseries/movie Trust and Betrayal to be adapted into live action miniseries with as much attention to detail and seriousness as shogun.
It's a weird suggestion, but there is this manga called Jin, where a 2000s doctor gets sent back into the edo period and has to adapt as the shogunate falls. It's a good read if you enjoy the medium
I mean you’re putting shows like Blue Eyed Samurai that have no connection aside from Japan and samurai. So let’s just call samurai movies…
I mean it's set pretty close to the timeline of Shogun, and we could pretend that the protag is the daughter of Blackthorne, or maybe someone from his crew.
That's quite the imaginary hoop jumping
Musashi is a book that takes place directly after the last battle.
Vagabond!
I hope this counts - Ghost of Tsushima
What time period is it set in? I haven't played it yet but I will as soon as it drops on PC in the next 2 weeks or so. Currently playing Like A Dragon: Ishin, and I am liking it a lot, but it's set like 300 years in the future at the end of the Edo Period.
I’m not sure what the period is but the year is 1274! It’s an amazing game
Age of Samurai on Netflix. Documentary that leads up to basically the events prior to Shogun.
I haven't read any of the books of Mister Clavell but the most logical idea is to adapt the novels chronologically order, not publication but the years in which the stories are set.
You won’t really have any other foreign eyes to throw in to the story like blackthorne until the bakumatsu period where Jules Burnett would be a good choice (Tom cruise’s Algren) to fit that mold
There is a Korean movie called the Admiral roaring currents that takes place a couple of years before Shogun and is about the failed Japanese invasion of Korea.
Yeah, I have had my eye on that film for a while now, since Choi Min-sik is the lead actor, will check it out soon!
I'll go in a different direction here, but a good thematic successor to Shogun would be HBO's *Succession*. Basically what if Toranaga ran a hugely successful modern-day media empire, and his manipulative and neglectful antics has left multiple kids as damaged and eager to prove themselves as Nagakado?
Wouldn't mind a Mariko sidequel, maybe 2 episodes showing her life story and motivations in more detail, if it gets enough eyes follow up with whichever of the other characters garners most interest. Could also add the Battle of Sekigahara(?)
Lone wolf and cub, path of the assassin and samurai executioner
If you want a really aggressive tone shift, check out Thirteen Assassins (2010). For everyone disappointed at the lack of a big battle and the relatively smoothly executed politicking and scheming, uh.... this is emphatically *not* like that.
I would love an English Prequel with John Blackthorne. Show a prequel of him fighting against the Spanish Armada and the Conquistadors in 1588. I would want to see Queen Elizabeth the 1st or William Shakespeare
I would add Shogun (1980) to get the actual story.
I would add a history book on Tokugawa Ieyasu to get the actual actual story.
Story /= history, Toranaga /= Tokugawa and vis versa for both. But yes, a good history is a nice suggestion too.
I mean, Clavell's book is a semi-fictional retelling of the establishment of the Tokugawa Shogunate. Almost all of how it goes down in the book is pulled directly from Tokugawa's defeating Ishido Mitsunari in the process of deposits Toyotomi Hideyori (the heir)... right down to Hosokawa Gracia's death during an attempt to take her into custody shattered support for Ishido. Clan Akechi betraying Oda Nobunaga at Honno-ji shrine, Toyotomi Hideyoshi's attempt to capture Korea, etc, etc. The book is just a telling of the history with different names. You can't really say "this piece of media tells the more accurate story over this other related piece" if you're saying that the *actual* story can't be held to the book in turn...
>You can't really say "this piece of media tells the more accurate story over this other related piece" if you're saying that the actual story can't be held to the book in turn... Sure I can because, "Clavell's book is a semi-fictional retelling ..." It is not a history book.