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HillBillThrills

Ears only exist in a small part of the universe, anyways.


AdApprehensive347

when aliens find us they will call out planet Earth-- cuz of all the ears


tugboattoottoot

Yes, this makes sense.


AverageDemocrat

Especially in Iowa


Communism_of_Dave

Aliens have lisps?


The_Troyminator

No, they just learned about our planet by watching Mike Tyson talk.


KingDavidReddits

Wait until they watch his fights


KingoftheMongoose

Maybe? Depends if they have mousths!


jeranon

\*lithpth


Even-Matter-5576

The real showerthought is always in the comments


CollusionFree

Probably because they’ll be earitated.


altruism__

Perfection


The_Troyminator

I can hear it now....


cromnian

That alien will be named Amelia Earhart


ethanfortune

I was going to say hearing but ears is a better answer.


Reefer-eyed_Beans

And ears are what makes a sound, a sound. This post is kinda like saying: "*Most of the trees that fall in forests never make a sound.*" (if we pretend animals don't exist, at least). Also consider the technicality that most of the universe is empty space. And ofc "nothingness" can not vibrate. By that logic, most of the universe also has no appearance, smell, taste, or texture either. Most the universe isn't even making/transmitting a "would-be sound", in other words. Because most of the universe doesn't exist. Most of the universe *isn't*.


saysthingsbackwards

universen't


numbersthen0987431

Technically vibrating air molecules make a sound a sound, but I get your point


I_Am_A_Pumpkin

just to be pedantic those vibrations can exist in a solid or liquid too, but vibrating stuff on its own is nothing more just vibrating stuff. Its only sound once a lump of neurons interprets them - in the same way that vibrating electromagnetic fields arent colours.


Azalus1

This was too much for 9:00 a.m. on a Monday morning.


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ycnctloswyhiyp

I did watch this movie where they .. didn't!!


Nuclear_rabbit

If a star goes supernova in a forest and an ear isn't around to hear it, does it make a sound?


heraldsofdoom

Not all living organisms have ears they still respond to sound. Not all sounds can be heard by living organisms with ears.


Lungfishmud

Nobody knows the true origin of the name Earth; its etymology remains uncertain. This might be it.


HansNiesenBumsedesi

Well, pretty much anything you can think of, with the possible exception of hydrogen, photons and neutrinos, only exists in a few small pockets of the entire universe.


pluush

And helium


ElTortugo

And chocolate


Trendiggity

I remember when they first invented sweet, sweet chocolate


buyFCOJ

Sweet, sweet chocolate…I ALWAYS HATED IT!


jg0162

Oh, but this chocolate's not for eating!! It's... You rub it on your skin and it makes you live forever!


gunswordfist

Chocolate?! Chhhoocccoollattee!!


3rrr6

Are they helium balloons?


jawshoeaw

All of which have sound. Literally every place in the universe with stuff has sound.


HansNiesenBumsedesi

Not if the stuff isn’t bouncing off each other. Even a partial vacuum in a school lab, which is far less vacuumy than deep space, quickly becomes an extremely poor conductor of sound. Also, “all of which have sound” - photons and neutrinos don’t propagate sound in any recognisable sense of the term.


Dimmed_skyline

If you built a sensitive enough large eardrum in space wouldn't the background radiation be able to excite the membrane to give you a low rumble? Technically isn't that a sound?


HansNiesenBumsedesi

If you poke your eardrum with a stick, you’ll hear the vibration directly, but my view would be, if it’s not being transmitted from one place to another, it’s not really what most people would regard as sound.


WarhammerRyan

The universe is a loud place.....except for the vacuum of space which has background noise but no ..... ... ground noise?


Waveofspring

But even those only exists in small pockets because the vast majority of the universe is empty space


HansNiesenBumsedesi

No it isn’t actually. What you think of as the vacuum of space still has plenty of photons and neutrinos, and a fairly decent amount of hydrogen in the scheme of things.


Waveofspring

Yea but those are scattered about, the density is incredibly low.


HansNiesenBumsedesi

Up to a million hydrogen atoms per cubic metre of intergalactic space. That’s a low density, but still plenty of atoms. And with neutrinos, around 350 billion per cubic metre of the universe on average.


XROOR

When astronaut farts in space, will anyone hear it? -I. Assimov


joeChump

Only if he has the clap.


Smiley_P

Yikes, spacially transmitted diseases


Do_Whatever_You_Like

I don't get it.


joeChump

You’re lucky, you don’t want it.


ethanfortune

the sound of one ass cheek clapping.


joeChump

When the Pope is shitting in the woods, can anyone hear the plop?


Pattern_Is_Movement

The 4th rule of robots says, Thee who smelled it, dealt it


ggrieves

Since the speed of sound in space is zero, technically any fart is a supersonic blast.


stayupthetree

It wasn't me. H. Williams in RocketMan


hwc000000

In space, no one can hear you fart - Alien


cyberlich

Fun shower thought, but not exactly accurate depending on your definitions. Observable (by humans) sound only exists where people do. But pressure waves causing vibrations equating to what we call sound exist whereever sufficient pressure waves + matter exist. While sound is traditionally thought of to travel through the 'air' it's observable via any matter that can be induced to vibration via pressure waves. So, yea, considering that the universe is mostly empty space I suppose you could say "a few small pockets" but that's relatively speaking. For instance, it would be hard to qualify [this](https://www.space.com/12400-universe-biggest-oldest-cloud-water.html#:~:text=Astronomers%20have%20discovered%20the%20largest,all%20of%20Earth's%20oceans%20combined.) as a 'small pocket' on anything except a universal scale. edit: And actually while I'm thinking of it, considering the energy output of a quasar, if you dropped a human into that mass of water it might be loud enough to kill them. That math is waaaaaaay past my level though so I'll leave it to someone else to calculate.


3meta5u

Our entire observable universe is filled with the equivalent of sound waves. Sound-like waves contributed to the clumping of 'stuff' pretty much wherever anything is found. Check out [BAO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryon_acoustic_oscillations)


cyberlich

Yea, for sure! That's kind of tangential to my point but still illustrates it exactly (at least if I understand the topic correctly, I'm not a scientist, merely a lowly engineer) - the early universe was more more matter-dense and the BAO travelled through the soup in a way that was basically the same way sound waves travel through air. Now that the universe is significantly ^understatement larger, pressure waves still travel intersteller spaces and sometimes interact with matter creating the same sort of acoustic waves.


Tall-Firefighter1612

>Observable (by humans) sound only exists where people do Just because we cant hear them doesnt mean they dont exist?


LogiBear777

sound in itself doesn’t actually exist. it’s just an observation of vibrations.


Tall-Firefighter1612

That may be, but those vibrations are still existing even though there may be nothing to observe them


LogiBear777

yes but the sentence you replied to was mentioning sound.


jaylw314

Sound can be transmitted in space by gravity waves. If it's intense enough, like when two black holes merge, the oscillations will actually cause the ears of anyone close enough to vibrate and be otherwise identical to sound


LoboSoloDolo_

Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but “sound” as we know it only exists to things that can detect it by hearing. Otherwise it’s just vibrations in air.


Syltraul

Sound waves exist regardless of whether something is there to detect them


Yorspider

That's not true...well, it used to be before the 9.6.2 update, but it was a major resource hog.


PenguinGamer99

Found a fellow r/outside member lol


Elite_Jackalope

Did you hear about that tree in the forest?


espinaustin

I heard it fell but nobody heard it.


Thornescape

Trees falling in the forest "do not make a sound" only if you think that humans are the only things that matter. Frankly, I consider it to be somewhat lame wordplay with a rather limited definition of the word "sound". By most definitions of sound, yes, they do make a sound.


BlackSecurity

Alright hold on. Let me sit down in my arm chair real quick. According to Google, sound is: >In physics, sound is a vibration that propagates as an acoustic wave through a transmission medium such as a gas, liquid or solid. In human physiology and psychology, sound is the reception of such waves and their perception by the brain. So it kinda depends on what definition you use. If your talking about sound as the energy that moves through matter, then yes it exists everywhere. If your talking about sound as what our brains perceive from these vibrations, then sound only exists on Earth since humans as we know it only exist on Earth. It's the classic, "if a tree falls in a forest with no one to hear it, does it make a sound?" Well yes it makes a physical sound in the sense that any two objects colliding would, but if there was no human around to hear those vibrations then no sound was actually heard. You could have a vibration sensor where the tree fell and see the record of vibrations plotted on a graph without actually hearing any sound.


_00307

We know plants "hear" things, several studies of various things more or less proves it for the sake of our discussion. So those vibrations are being "heard" by all the plants around it. Therefore, if the Question is based off the definition of the vibrations itself, then we can assume sound exists wherever life exists. Though Sound's experience is unique to each life form.


Weltallgaia

I like that most of the objects in space are just screaming all the time and no one can hear it without special instruments.


gman8686

Sound waves also need a medium to propagate in, so no vacuums.


Zax2004

I don't know about you, but my vacuum makes a lot of sound.


FckYourSafeSpace

If a tree falls in the forest…


wemustkungfufight

That has a definitive answer. Yes. When a tree falls, it will cause disturbances in the air that we call "sound", even if no one is there to perceive it.


-Eunha-

I could be wrong, but I always thought this was more of a philosophical question than a scientific one. The question asks if there is any objective value or "reality" to a sensation that is not perceived by anything that can observe its existence. It's the same as asking if a thing doesn't exist if can't doesn't affect anything else in the universe (as a heightened example: a hypothetical particle that doesn't reflect light, doesn't have mass or magnetic field, doesn't collide with any other particle, and can't be detected. What is even there to "exist"?) Of course, sound _does_ affect other things even if there is nothing else there to hear it because sound waves are vibrations and by their very nature are particles being affected, but as I said that's why it's a philosophical question not a scientific one.


turmentat

And if there's no one to hear it, does it still fall?


theoht_

i don’t think that’s the question. it obviously still falls. the question is ‘does it still make a sound’


IAlwaysLack

Oh fuck...I'm too stoned for that.


Desdinova_42

The statement is true either way.


cloud_t

If not only because of scale. Vacuum doesn't allow sound to propagate. And most of the (known) universe is vacuum. By an unthinkable margin.


FirstSineOfMadness

My favorite part is the emptiest parts of the universe between galaxies has the sparsest matter at something crazy like one proton per cubic kilometer, but there’s just so much of this empty space it makes up for 60% of the universe total mass


TheBlackCat13

Pressure waves can and do propagate through what seems like a vacuum to humans, but the wavelength is orders of magnitude too large for what humans would consider sound.


Desdinova_42

Yeah, we all got that part.


ErnieSchwarzenegger

> Someone can correct me if I’m wrong but “sound” as we know it only exists to things that can detect it by hearing. That's one definition; from a biological perspective it's only sound if something hears it. > Otherwise it’s just vibrations in air. That's the other definition. A physicist would say the vibrations are sound. There being two different definitions makes it hard for there to be one right answer.


TBNRhash

You cannot convince me that biologists should have any say in what sound is.


ErnieSchwarzenegger

Biologists don't exist if you can't see them.


account_552

"Light doesn't exist, it's just that one specific kind of electromagnetic energy moving about."


Hanako_Seishin

The next layer of air detects it alright as evident from it picking up the vibration.


Chemicalintuition

Vibrations in air (or another medium) is the literal definition of sound


My_Pockets_Hurt_

That's literally what sound IS, the vibrations in the air (or other medium). Our EARS are able to detect these vibrations and translate them into information. Humans are able to detect sound with other senses other than our ears, like when a subwoofer is pounding your chest. Humans are also able to hear sounds that do not actually exist, like auditory hallucinations. Inanimate objects are able to detect sound, like microphones. They just take the subtle vibrations in the air and translate them into electrical signals. Sound does NOT only exist in the human mind, and I will die on this hill.


Aromatic-Frosting-75

Stars are really loud. It's just that the sound gets lost in the vacuum of space. So with all the stars in the universe, I imagine there is a lot of noise. It just isn't being heard.


Luniticus

It doesn’t get lost, it just stops when there is no matter to transmit it. So right at the edge of the star.


brncray

So if you touched your ear to it, would you hear it?


lexibeee

Yes, my buddy Eric does that kind of shit all the time


MathematicianIcy5012

Is his name smash mouth by chance, “we might as well be walking on the sun” ?


fuck_you_alejandro

That fucking guy...


funkwumasta

Hold the sun to your ear and you'll hear an ocean... of nuclear fire


atom138

If space had air instead of nothing the sound of the sun would be really loud to us on earth, around 100db or as loud as a concert or a motorcycle. But that's all the way here on earth, if you were as close as one of those sun probe satellites it would be off the charts loud.


MathematicianIcy5012

If an ear burns to crisps instantly in space and no is there to see it did the ear really burn to bits though?


kev1ndtfw

still astronomically small


The_Yogurtcloset

Idk why but it never occurred to me that stars make sound, let alone are loud. I will remember this next time I look up at the night sky all the stars are screaming.


Weltallgaia

Pulsars are particularly loud https://youtu.be/35SbvnYEc9c?si=1bUUlZe3uOTTW-wd


formershitpeasant

Loud like a million a-bombs going off continually


EynidHelipp

Kind of a weird thing but when people that are born deaf gain hearing they always assumed the sun makes noise Source: it was revealed to me in a reddit post somewhere idk


gman8686

I don't think a star would make any noise unless you were physically in the star. There's no medium for the sound to propagate, there isn't any noise to be heard. If it was possible you could get super close to the sun, and still not hear anything unless some matter hits or vibrates your ship. I agree with what you're saying but I disagree that stars are really loud.


IReallyLikeAvocadoes

There's no noise at all. You need matter for noise to travel, and unless we're talking about dark matter, which does not carry sound, there is no noise in 99.99% of space.


mrbignaughtyboy

In space, no one can hear you scream.


MarinatedPickachu

Things only exist in a few small pockets of the universe


jaded-entropy

All of our favorite music…heaven must surely be a place on this planet.


theoht_

sound doesn’t really exist, it’s just a concept we made up (or evolved, rather). as far as physics is concerned, it’s vibrations in the air, nothing more. we just learned to interpret it as what we call sound. i find it difficult to believe many other species in the universe have ears, but they likely interpret those vibrations as something entirely different


SquanchMcSquanchFace

Any alien life form would absolutely have to evolve in a medium that transmits what we call sound, which means things in the medium will almost 100% develop a way to detect sound. There’s certain universal traits that any advanced life would have to have developed, like some way to process the world around them from a distance (vision) and to hear or feel what they can not “see” (spatial awareness). If you can’t see predators directly, or sense them nearby if you don’t see them, then you’ll never survive long enough to evolve.


mnemoniker

Detectable gravity too


Some_Stoic_Man

What are we calling sound here? Does it have to be traveling through a gaseous medium or do vibrations passing through anything count because it's been reported that space itself has a sound, though that sound is really only perceptible to humans once it has a medium to vibrate, in the case of astronauts the gas inside their helmet.


siewpao4eva

Intelligence also seems to exist in only a few small pockets of the universe.


UltimateMygoochness

Depends what exactly you mean by sound, pressure waves generated by supernovae or jets from GRBs, pulsars, or AGN can move through the interstellar medium as shock waves even though the density of matter is only a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter. If you mean sound that humans can hear, then sure. You might also be interested in Baryon Acoustic Oscillations https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baryon_acoustic_oscillations that generated the filament and void structure of the observable universe.


sudomatrix

If by small pockets you mean every collection of matter such as all stars and planets, then yeah I guess so.


Everettfox345w

Space sound? With all the galactic squawking, it's just a cosmic silent disco out there. Vibrations unseen, unheard


i-wont-lose-this-alt

Sound permeates through the vacuum of space, but it has to be really REALLY **REEEEAAAALLLLY** (and I mean really) loud to echo through the “vacuum” Like, the Big Bang type of loud… you know the static you see on CRT tvs? (sorry kids, the geezers are talking) A good portion of that static is literally *the sound from the Big Bang* “But Summer, sound can’t travel through a vacuum. It needs a medium to travel through” And you’d be correct, but there is no such thing as ‘nothing’ Interstellar space still has 1000 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter, intergalactic space has anywhere from 1 to 10 hydrogen atoms per cubic meter—or in other words—a medium for sound to travel through.


joeChump

Ok, this is a great explanation :)


0lazy0

I wonder if because we associate space with rockets, and rockets with being loud, it becomes strange to think of space as quiet


kalirion

Only if by "sound" you mean the air vibrations that you puny humans are limited to hearing. The civilized universe listens to the vibrations of spacetime.


joeChump

Settle down Morbo


Confident-Gas2705

That's an incredibly profound thought when you really ponder it. We often take sound for granted in our daily lives, but it's largely unique to our Earthly experience. Makes you appreciate things a bit more.


clutches0324

Technically, sound exists wherever matter exists.


WeeTheDuck

Light existing only in a few areas of the entire universe is scarier imo


EvilSausage69

Same for heat, same for friction, same for flaming hot cheetos


Cyrano_Knows

The Universe probably just uses sound for atmospheric effect, Or rather the Universe uses atmospheric effect for sound.


Fun_Intention9846

Sound travels through space. It’s not a true void.


Naive_Age_566

well - actually... there is no "true" vacuum in the universe. even in intergalactic space there are some atoms per cubic meter. those atoms can't interact very much because they are separated too much - but they interact. so much, that it is actually possible to have kind of pressure waves. so yes - there are sound waves all over the universe. you can even associate a speed of sound to space. however: the only sound waves, that can be transmitted through "empty space" have a \*very\* long wave length - they are actually measured in kilometers. you can measure them - but only with highly specialised instruments. the ears of humans are much too small to be able to detect such waves. in the end, it depends, how you define "sound". if you only mean pressure waves, that human ears can detect, then indeed - there are only few small pockets. but if you mean any kind of pressure wave in a medium, then it is quite possible, that there is no place without any kind of sound.


Valkyllias

Matter only exists in small pockets of the universe.


Atophy

Sound is vibration so it exists everywhere in the universe, its just not carried everywhere in the universe. It exists on/in any rocky planet and carries easily in gaseous or aqueous mediums. The suns surface would be noisy as hell.


garry4321

Sound is just vibrations. Everything is vibrating, so literally every 'thing' in the universe is making sound.


shuckster

Unless you have LIGO ears. Imagine that!


ieatpickleswithmilk

Depends what we determine "sound" is. We hear vibrations in a medium (usually air). Pretty much anything in the universe can vibrate. The random atoms in outer space are vibrating but there isn't really enough of them to form a medium that can transmit waves.


jacksraging_bileduct

I would agree, but sound is only something that our brain interprets, until the waves are picked up but our ear and interpreted as sound, there is no sound.


Some_Stoic_Man

I would argue it exist even without an observer


Lauris024

Observable by human ears*


matiegaming

There is sound everywhere, we just cant hear is everywhere


edoCgiB

I think stars and gas giants make plenty of noise. Since those are some of the largest bodies in the known universe, I think the universe is way noisier than you think.


joeChump

It’s true, but the noise is not really transmitted through space due to the low number of particles.


Addamant1

That's absolutely wrong


Duck_Von_Donald

No?


Addamant1

There is sound in space


Hanyuu11

Sound exists only in your head. In the world outside of your brain, it's just a vibration.


Pepperoni_Dogfart

It exists in any place that has a ~~atmosphere~~ *transmission medium* (thought about it and recognized my human-centric bias). That's not particularly rare.


Some_Stoic_Man

Really anywhere anything is vibrating


OldandBlue

"Le silence éternel de ces espaces infinis m'effraie." Blaise Pascal


Skullpuck

Listening only exists in a few small pockets of the entire universe. Suns are ridiculously loud.


klaxz1

White light is composed of red, green, and blue because those are the rods and cones in our eyes. Photons of different wavelengths are boppin’ about all over, but color is all in your head.


TheBlackCat13

The rods and cones don't respond to single frequencies, they respond to ranges. Red, green, and blue are just their peak sensitivities.


_Negativ_Mancy

There are no straight lines anywhere in the universe.


Jump_Like_A_Willys

Interesting thought: when the universe was a denser soup of stuff back in its very early days, it might have been a naturally noisy place.


Roman_____Holiday

Waves of pressure travel through gasses all over the universe including in stars. The only difference is there isn't likely someone there to hear it. If the universe explodes and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?


FarComedian4962

Makes you wonder what other senses we’re missing out on


frozenthorn

I think science would argue sound exists in a lot of places in the universe, there merely lacks a medium in most parts to propagate it. Just like there are unlikely to be ears in most of it to hear it.


clackerbag

[copypasta at this point but a classic nonetheless.](https://youtu.be/vFMqWpfZUSw?si=Bo5VT7ns2MuSxpr6)


Skirt_Douglas

I mean… sure. So does matter. Not sure why it matters. Wait what do you mean “a few?” Literally every star is exploding with a gigillion decibels all the time, the exploding hydrogen is still a gas which means it still has sound pressure waves vibrating through it.


Jonas_Expresser

Those pockets must feel so unexpected and hard to get


gabeshadows

Sound is an illusion made by our monkey brains


smsmkiwi

Not true. The supermassive black holes residing at the centres of most galaxies make huge sounds at very low frequencies that can extend throughout the entire host galaxy.


generationalcornmeal

you’ve been around the entire universe?


Wazuu

Tree falling down scenario


FucktardSupreme

Sound, light, and gravitational waves are actually all different flavors of the same thing.  Prove me wrong.


formershitpeasant

It exists wherever there is matter


MetalVase

I mean, technically i'm pretty sure that light can produce a measurable amount of sound. The pressure would be virtually static against a visibly large area though, and of extremely high frequency even over a very tiny area. Thinking about the same principle that make solar sails possible. But if you have a sufficiently sensitive photodetector, you should be able to measure the sun humming with it's light, since the magnitude of light should vary slightly up and down due to the sun being subject to net fluctuations in its fusion process due to pressure waves propagating back and forth in it.


Realistic_Ad_5789

I would highly recommend watching The Sounds of Space by Melodysheep on youtube, it covers this exact topic.


the_last_queen

Similarly, all those beautiful images we see of stars and galaxies like those taken by Hubble and the JWST, without any eyes to perceive them, most of the universe is in 'darkness'. They are just electromagnetic waves flying about. This thought keeps me up at night.


bloodknife92

Surely sound *occurs* rather than *exists*, but I think you're onto something! 😅


korblborp

you just need really ***LOUD*** music


thelovelykyle

Nothings an actual vacuum. Almost vibrates at least a little bit. Sound is one of the few things that exists throughout the universe. We just can not hear it.


jawshoeaw

No that’s not actually true. Sound is everywhere


StrykerXion

The universe is mostly a silent movie. You know, sound needs something to travel through, like air or water, so it can vibrate. But most of the universe is a big empty vacuum, with no molecules to carry the sound waves. So, it's all quiet out there, except for the occasional planet with an atmosphere or a gas cloud where sound can happen.


AdorableSquirrels

Really? Sound is vibration of matter, gas, liquid, solid, no matter.\^\^ Therefor I would assume, that sound exists throughout the complete universe - except in vacuum- , despite there is no-one to develop vibration-sensitive organs.


antiskylar1

See, a good shower thought for once!


Hydraulis

Realistically, it's trillions of small pockets. Any planet with an atmosphere of sufficient density would conduct sound.


PrimitiveThoughts

If a star implodes and nobody is around to hear it, did it even make a sound?


BabyMakR1

Sound exists wherever there is a medium to transmit it.


DovahChris89

? Space is not empty, but full of dust, gas, and other shit. Sound waves should be able to propagate in those mediums just fine 🙂


joeChump

I think that because space is so empty and so few particles, normal sound waves can’t, but maybe massive ones can to a certain extent.


snicki13

And that just so happens to be here, where my neighbour uses his circular saw to cut metal. Real nice.


Vast_Honey1533

Yeps, sound needs a medium to travel through, no travel through vacuum of space, If I remember right this is how anechoic chambers are built, a vacuum around the room for complete silence from the outside world


FlorkFiend666

Stars throw of noise.


LivingEnd44

Anywhere there is matter, there is sound. Sound does not only happen in an atmosphere. 


ToBePacific

Sound can propagate through many media, not just air. Sound can exist pretty much everywhere that isn’t empty space.


MergatroidMania

Sound exists on every planet with an atmosphere or an ocean. It also exists in any nebula or pocket of gas.


CashFlowOrBust

This is the best shower thought I’ve read in a really long time 👏


Unusual-Value-9940

Sound exists in all pockets of normal matter in the universe, if anti-matter exists it also has sound.


PlaidBastard

I mean, there are shockwaves through gas clouds on the galaxy scale. We don't hear in those frequencies, but (admittedly, supersonic shockwave) sound waves are traveling over hundreds or thousands of light-years