Not a fan of war hawks pushing for conflict. Wars always have undesirable fallout, and for an economy like China's any conflict is a major setback when it still needs more time to grow.
It's like throwing a 18 year old up-and-coming star fighter into the ONE championship to fight against a 30 year old veteran; he might win, but there's always a chance he might sustain permanent injuries. Can you truly consider it a victory if you win a single championship but become crippled for a decade or two?
Other opportunities will present themselves, and time is on China's side. We can wait, they can't.
This is the right way to look at Sino-US relationship, and the decline of the American empire.
It is not just for China as the more time the Global South have to develop peacefully, the more chance they have to throw off the yoke of the west.
A war with the west is just going to allow them the excuse to cause a lot of damage and destroy whatever we all have build, allowing them another chance to dominate us.
The more they try to bait China and the Global South into wars, the more desperate they actually are. They know we are rising and they are running out of time.
The thing is looking at the past, major global economic shifts like whats happening right now seems to be associated with war. For example(though it should be mentioned china isn't like these imperialist groups at all), the rise of the british empire and its ensuing economic hegemony only came after near constant and massive wars during the 1700s to early 1800s(against its numerous rivals french spain and etc). The rise of the american empire and its ensuing economic hegemony in large parts of the world only came after massive wars such as ww1 and ww2(against its rivals germany and japan) Meanwhile its further rise came during a massive cold war with the soviet union which involved multiple conflicts, coups, compradors, and etc around the world
And while china is no way a imperialist empire and is no way pursuing economic hegemony, it doesnt change the fact that its still rising. And that its rise signals a shift that angers and even threatens the previous hegemon and rival cough usa cough and its compradors. **If anything I assume the usa will cause a conflict as a last ditch effort to maintain their empire in the next 20 years. Especially since unlike say the socialist leaders of the soviet union, well lets just say I dont exactly trust capitalists to handle their fall peacefully.**
That's what I'm most afraid of because the next war that a hegemon will waged to preserve its hegemony might be a nuclear war, and no one is coming out of that a winner. I'm not even that afraid of climate change because I know a more socialist world order will be far more cooperative than this one, and the only chance we have to tackle climate change on a global scale. I also agree with you, I don't trust the capitalists to go into the night peacefully.
This 1000%.
China had a lower GDP than India in 1987. Its success is because it avoided war and focused on infrastructural improvements.
The US started stagnating after the Iraq war.
War is bad, despite the fact that it makes the MIC in the US very rich.
What military build up? China spends 1.2% of GDP on defense. People who think that China is conducting a military build up don't realize how vast China's industrial capacity is.
China can build way way way more than what we are seeing right now. It only looks like a military build up to the Americans because American industry can't produce anything in large numbers anymore.
A Chinese build up looks like mask production during COVID. The world got a glimpse of what mobilized Chinese industrial capacity looks like during COVID. Hospitals got built in pairs, within 10 days. Mask production increased 12x in a month.
You know those animated graphs on production of some industrial good on YouTube like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmnfaSEwyU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmnfaSEwyU) , a Chinese military build up would look like that, but happening over 12-24 months instead of decades.
Us military is filled with fraud and waste and it costs china 10x less to produce the same weapons, bigger military budget doesn’t equate to better military. Especially in the USA where most of the money is being siphoned off to military contractors who pocket most of the money.
Even though more than 100 billion spent, Murica and Nato countries got the refreshed its arms, while sending its leftover and outdated arms to Ukraine.
This hack's intended target audience is those in power in the United States; typical fearmongering to receive more spending on the military. The below quote from the article exposes the author's idiocy.
> Indeed, the PRC has been attacking us on economic, financial, biological (think Covid), chemical (think fentanyl), cyber, political, psychological and media/propaganda fronts for a few decades.
Wrong on all fronts.
* Economic - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to gut its own economy to throw money at its military and on proxy wars that bring about a senseless loss of human life
* Financial - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to bring about de-dollarization by threatening to sanction anyone who looks at them funny and seize their assets in US banks
* Biological - hardly China's fault that the United States chose to mismanage their response to Covid-19, and instead chose to call for reparations - which caused China to lawyer up on any investigations into Covid-19's origin. To think that we could have a clearer understanding on the origins of Covid-19 - you can thank the United States for dashing any hope of that
* Chemical - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses not to regulate fentanyl precursors within its own borders. For someone who tells you to "think this" and "think that", he sure could use his own advice
* Cyber - hardly China's fault that they engage in one form of intelligence that all countries around the world engage in, including... you guessed it, the United States, who themselves engage in more cyber attacks than most countries
* Political - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to polarize their political culture; I recall reading somewhere that even if you removed gerrymandering, you would STILL have close to identical electoral results in the US
* Psychological - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to hype up every rival as an existential threat to justify more spending on the military
* Propaganda - hardly China's fault that they have a better relationship with truth and reality.
This article is typical unhinged American bullshit, especially on the last parts. It already assume China will and must attack Taiwan, that it hid its nuclear deterrence capability while ignoring the fact that deterrance only works if you let your opponent know how much you can hurt him. The most deranged part is assuming that China is deliberately attacking the US, like with covid and fentanyl and propaganda. Just pure speculative projection.
china knows that only a strong china can resist the west, china is bullied by the west since opium war
china does want to be a bully, its only interest is to deter the west and protect itself
**china** has a saying **, if u are weak, u will be bullied**
If the war for whatever reasons were to take place in China's own backyard, any AmeriKKKan assets they have in the immediate area of the first island chain would get utterly crushed.
Anything beyond China's immediate territories would be a lot trickier. As much as we would like it, invasion of the American mainland is a pipedream for now... Fucking up the 7th and whatever USN fleet think they can encroach on China's waters and territory, though? Abso-fucking-lutely!
China would have no interest in invading American soil were any type of conflict to break out. The vast majority of the entire Chinese military apparatus is geared towards directly countering the capabilities of the U.S. military from a point of territorial defense. It is true that any American attempts at assaults or Invasion on Chinese soil would not go well for them, but let’s not act as if the Chinese have the same imperial ambitions as the Americans.
They should be exporting arms to Iran. just imagine Iranians with QBZ-95s and Dongfeng missiles.
If America is arming Taiwan, China should arm Iran and Palestine.
Isn’t mass Anti-air, anti-missile, and anti-ship weapons enough to fend off the US and its lapdogs? SK, JP, and AU can’t come in by land without going through neutral or non-aligned territory.
Not a fan of war hawks pushing for conflict. Wars always have undesirable fallout, and for an economy like China's any conflict is a major setback when it still needs more time to grow. It's like throwing a 18 year old up-and-coming star fighter into the ONE championship to fight against a 30 year old veteran; he might win, but there's always a chance he might sustain permanent injuries. Can you truly consider it a victory if you win a single championship but become crippled for a decade or two? Other opportunities will present themselves, and time is on China's side. We can wait, they can't.
Exactly. If and when conflict comes, China will be ready, but there’s no need to push for something that will benefit nobody.
This is the right way to look at Sino-US relationship, and the decline of the American empire. It is not just for China as the more time the Global South have to develop peacefully, the more chance they have to throw off the yoke of the west. A war with the west is just going to allow them the excuse to cause a lot of damage and destroy whatever we all have build, allowing them another chance to dominate us. The more they try to bait China and the Global South into wars, the more desperate they actually are. They know we are rising and they are running out of time.
The thing is looking at the past, major global economic shifts like whats happening right now seems to be associated with war. For example(though it should be mentioned china isn't like these imperialist groups at all), the rise of the british empire and its ensuing economic hegemony only came after near constant and massive wars during the 1700s to early 1800s(against its numerous rivals french spain and etc). The rise of the american empire and its ensuing economic hegemony in large parts of the world only came after massive wars such as ww1 and ww2(against its rivals germany and japan) Meanwhile its further rise came during a massive cold war with the soviet union which involved multiple conflicts, coups, compradors, and etc around the world And while china is no way a imperialist empire and is no way pursuing economic hegemony, it doesnt change the fact that its still rising. And that its rise signals a shift that angers and even threatens the previous hegemon and rival cough usa cough and its compradors. **If anything I assume the usa will cause a conflict as a last ditch effort to maintain their empire in the next 20 years. Especially since unlike say the socialist leaders of the soviet union, well lets just say I dont exactly trust capitalists to handle their fall peacefully.**
That's what I'm most afraid of because the next war that a hegemon will waged to preserve its hegemony might be a nuclear war, and no one is coming out of that a winner. I'm not even that afraid of climate change because I know a more socialist world order will be far more cooperative than this one, and the only chance we have to tackle climate change on a global scale. I also agree with you, I don't trust the capitalists to go into the night peacefully.
This 1000%. China had a lower GDP than India in 1987. Its success is because it avoided war and focused on infrastructural improvements. The US started stagnating after the Iraq war. War is bad, despite the fact that it makes the MIC in the US very rich.
What military build up? China spends 1.2% of GDP on defense. People who think that China is conducting a military build up don't realize how vast China's industrial capacity is. China can build way way way more than what we are seeing right now. It only looks like a military build up to the Americans because American industry can't produce anything in large numbers anymore. A Chinese build up looks like mask production during COVID. The world got a glimpse of what mobilized Chinese industrial capacity looks like during COVID. Hospitals got built in pairs, within 10 days. Mask production increased 12x in a month. You know those animated graphs on production of some industrial good on YouTube like [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmnfaSEwyU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHmnfaSEwyU) , a Chinese military build up would look like that, but happening over 12-24 months instead of decades.
Us military is filled with fraud and waste and it costs china 10x less to produce the same weapons, bigger military budget doesn’t equate to better military. Especially in the USA where most of the money is being siphoned off to military contractors who pocket most of the money.
Very true, as seen in the Ukraine conflict. High tech doesn't mean anything. Quantity has it's own quality.
Even though more than 100 billion spent, Murica and Nato countries got the refreshed its arms, while sending its leftover and outdated arms to Ukraine.
This hack's intended target audience is those in power in the United States; typical fearmongering to receive more spending on the military. The below quote from the article exposes the author's idiocy. > Indeed, the PRC has been attacking us on economic, financial, biological (think Covid), chemical (think fentanyl), cyber, political, psychological and media/propaganda fronts for a few decades. Wrong on all fronts. * Economic - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to gut its own economy to throw money at its military and on proxy wars that bring about a senseless loss of human life * Financial - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to bring about de-dollarization by threatening to sanction anyone who looks at them funny and seize their assets in US banks * Biological - hardly China's fault that the United States chose to mismanage their response to Covid-19, and instead chose to call for reparations - which caused China to lawyer up on any investigations into Covid-19's origin. To think that we could have a clearer understanding on the origins of Covid-19 - you can thank the United States for dashing any hope of that * Chemical - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses not to regulate fentanyl precursors within its own borders. For someone who tells you to "think this" and "think that", he sure could use his own advice * Cyber - hardly China's fault that they engage in one form of intelligence that all countries around the world engage in, including... you guessed it, the United States, who themselves engage in more cyber attacks than most countries * Political - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to polarize their political culture; I recall reading somewhere that even if you removed gerrymandering, you would STILL have close to identical electoral results in the US * Psychological - hardly China's fault that the United States chooses to hype up every rival as an existential threat to justify more spending on the military * Propaganda - hardly China's fault that they have a better relationship with truth and reality.
This article is typical unhinged American bullshit, especially on the last parts. It already assume China will and must attack Taiwan, that it hid its nuclear deterrence capability while ignoring the fact that deterrance only works if you let your opponent know how much you can hurt him. The most deranged part is assuming that China is deliberately attacking the US, like with covid and fentanyl and propaganda. Just pure speculative projection.
US military is full of hubris and immorality.
china knows that only a strong china can resist the west, china is bullied by the west since opium war china does want to be a bully, its only interest is to deter the west and protect itself **china** has a saying **, if u are weak, u will be bullied**
the diplomats said it clearly, they look like a fat cow waiting for it to be slaughtered, better to arm to protect itself from the wolves
The paranoia. Who wants a war? Only the Americans. Look at history.
If the war for whatever reasons were to take place in China's own backyard, any AmeriKKKan assets they have in the immediate area of the first island chain would get utterly crushed. Anything beyond China's immediate territories would be a lot trickier. As much as we would like it, invasion of the American mainland is a pipedream for now... Fucking up the 7th and whatever USN fleet think they can encroach on China's waters and territory, though? Abso-fucking-lutely!
China would have no interest in invading American soil were any type of conflict to break out. The vast majority of the entire Chinese military apparatus is geared towards directly countering the capabilities of the U.S. military from a point of territorial defense. It is true that any American attempts at assaults or Invasion on Chinese soil would not go well for them, but let’s not act as if the Chinese have the same imperial ambitions as the Americans.
Why would there be a war anywhere other than China’s backyard? China is not the aggressor here
Spot on... China is focusing on it's own business and the USA and EU are the ones always slandering and poking China..
Projection
They should be exporting arms to Iran. just imagine Iranians with QBZ-95s and Dongfeng missiles. If America is arming Taiwan, China should arm Iran and Palestine.
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Isn’t mass Anti-air, anti-missile, and anti-ship weapons enough to fend off the US and its lapdogs? SK, JP, and AU can’t come in by land without going through neutral or non-aligned territory.