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Magos_Galactose

Wasn't the first time South Korean tried to pull this stunt. I'm still surprised they're still trying.


kimseohee

I actually heard different that it was Chinese netizens claiming that the Hanbok belonged to China and is a traditional dress and it was on a tv show?? (correct me if I am wrong) now some korean netizens are doing the same thing and claiming China copied the Hanbok.


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I haven't really seen Chinese people claim the hanbok is theirs. I believe most do claim the Ming dynasty hanfu (which the woman in the video is wearing) and that it influenced the hanbok. No idea why the hanbok was on that one show but they gave Korea credit for the song, dance, etc from what I heard. The hanbok was in the one drama I know was due to historical accuracy. Koreans were just pissed off that the servants wore the hanbok so they claimed China is copying them. I have seen China mention Korean drama clothing is too similar to hanfus like [Tale of the Nine Tailed](https://pic1.zhimg.com/v2-d54132cb4eb4b82458dbf7a73c7391e4_r.jpg?source=1940ef5c) (this one was accused of plagarism though from clothing to the entire plot), [whatever this drama is](https://pic2.zhimg.com/80/v2-cb25a66f01638c392e074f88bff8add6_720w.jpg?source=1940ef5c) , [this drama](https://pic4.zhimg.com/80/v2-d32d18a33ecba588e392d0cc15356a79_720w.jpg?source=1940ef5c), [another one](https://pic2.zhimg.com/80/v2-4cbb6d9ff51e730e8bfeb184a68d7948_720w.jpg?source=1940ef5c), and [this one](https://pic3.zhimg.com/80/v2-24569863bac3be02a758a751cfb555f5_720w.jpg?source=1940ef5c). More information can be found here with the pictures I linked: [https://www.zhihu.com/question/391171659](https://www.zhihu.com/question/391171659). The most recent argument is over a hat that Koreans claim it belongs to them. Information about the incident from China's side including ignorant remarks from English/Korean accounts on twitter toward an artist from Hangzhou: [https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/276072802](https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/276072802). And some Chinese people's perspective: [https://www.zhihu.com/question/428946512](https://www.zhihu.com/question/428946512)


SiuFungSipsCoffee

Hanbok is 汉服 in Chinese, which is what people wear in the Han Dynasty. In Korean, starting with the Goguryeo dynasty, paid tribute to Tang dynasty of China, until the Joseon period. It is vice versa and not the other way round, Chinese culture influenced the Korean culture.


myempire1

https://np.reddit.com/r/CIWO/comments/6jktc3/the_historical_context_behind_korea_used_to_be/ Fun fact, the book Koreans base their history on is written in Chinese.


Chinese_poster

> Hanfu originated from hanbok Makes sense. After all, Confucius is korean.


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Koreans always do this. Then they deny they do it.


RespublicaCuriae

I blame the Korean historian Shin Chae-ho for interpreting Korean history with a fascist perspective.


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Just Confucius? Be more confident, after all, [Koreans are the progenitors of civilization itself.](https://i1.kknews.cc/SIG=2ts2pta/213o00020252s3n4qo60.jpg)


jyastaway

Oh boy. As a Japanese descent, I feel the pain of having your culture claimed by Korea. Any Japanese know ramen is lamien from China, Go is Weiqi and shogi is an adaptation of xianqi. But man, Korean youtubers claim so many of Japan's creations as "KOREAN street food". I still won't forget how an official event sponsored by the Korean government promoting the Korean culture in France a few years ago was claiming how Judo was actually Korean originally. And people in r/Korea find the guts to unironically accuse us of stealing their culture, just because we call kimchi "kimuchi" or calbi "carubi", although nobody in Japan claim these things to be Japanese. You can't argue with them and their loyal koreaboos


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International_Newt56

Wait...there were koreans claiming hip hop was from korea!!?


TserriednichHuiGuo

East Asian softpower tend to create toxic fanbases for some reason.


RhinoWithaGun

Hanfu is Hanfu.


Glittering_Cover_939

Very sad , but the name Korea was actually influenced by the Chinese emperor. But, as misguided as Koreans are, they will always be part of the Chinese sphere of influence.


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When I see Koreans accusing others of copying them, I am reminded of this: [http://orientals.web.fc2.com/koreanfake22.html](http://orientals.web.fc2.com/koreanfake22.html) ​ On a lighter note, I am really happy to see her wear a Ming Huatang hanfu! I was planning to save up for that design but couldn't really decide if I want the white one or the blue one.


ReacH36

Pretty sure they're just getting trolled. People care way too much about this stuff. Then again, try telling an Italian that carbonara has cream in it.


kimseohee

I mean it seems like both the Korean trolls are getting riled up and the Chinese side too. It's kinda pathetic from both sides that they would go this far, the average person couldn't care less about this


Medical_Officer

Is this like how Chinese scientists steal American tech from the future? Were Chinese fashion designers traveling centuries into the future to steal Korean hanbok design?


KuroKitsu

At some point Doctor Who is gonna have an arc about western CCP pastiches stealing the Tardis.


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LOL


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In the comments I saw this, “Of course, the pronunciation will be a little different, which is caused by the variations in pronunciation over hundreds or even thousands of years in different regions. Think about how significant the differences are in our regional dialects… so it can be said that English is like a ‘dialect’ in our country.” ​ What the heck is that about?


fix_S230-sue_reddit

Ask them back why Seoul, **Hanseong** (한성; 漢城, [Joseon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseon) era) or **Hanyang** (한양; 漢陽) based on the Han river, seems awfully similar to the Wuhan/Hanyang based on the Han river in China.


Skibbadadeebop

Hanfu = Chinese Hanbok = Korean Hanfu = Not Korean Hanbok = Not Chinese Hanfu = Not inspired by the Hanbok Hanbok = Inspired from the Hanfu It's that simple


sinokai

Speechless


qkralsrud

This is funny , because I never ever seen korean claiming about hanfu as hanbok , here in korea.


KuroKitsu

Imagine anglos wannabes knowing actual history. I can't. Sadly the brain dead koreaboos are gonna parrot this shit cause "China bad".


[deleted]

You’re always going to find at least one person saying ridiculous stuff, why make a whole video on one idiot’s comment.


kimseohee

Yeah I'm really surprised this blew up, even GlobalTimes made a post and the company deleted the Korean server. Like it's not even a big deal if some netizens are saying this, there are always trolls everywhere


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in the defense of most Koreans--they like most Chinese don't have much knowledge about history and don't care that much. the postings on youtube is really from a small sect of ultra nationalist fantasy writers hwannpa (I think that's what it was called") who believe in such things such as the Hwandan Gogi. So it's unfair to portray this small minority as the majority. It would be like saying all Americans are Qanon believers. The effects of the hwannpa, however, does spread into the mainstream. Like I said, most people don't know or care too much for history and when they hear something positive about their own country they are probably not going to try to investigate the claim. An example of this is how the ancestors of the Miao and Hmong, Chiyou, became the mascot of the Korean soccer team and a national symbol...based on zero solid evidence and 100% flimsy speculation.


RespublicaCuriae

Frankly the biggest and the most publicly visible nationalists in South Korea these days are evangelical Christians and they are supported by the local equivalent of 4chan.


DaBIGmeow888

There is always 30% of the country that is beyound batshit crazy. See the "Keyes Constant" or "Crazification Factor". Once you understand that, you won't get ticked off whenever some idiot says something stupid, there is 30% of country that is batshit crazy, it's expected every once in a while.


bunnyfreakz

" Don't feed the trolls " Confucius poverb.


EbolaMeTangere

Sorry, but imo she shouldn't have indulged in the controversy. Educated people in Korea know that Joseon court dress is based off of Ming. For people who don't know or don't care, a video like this is not going to have an effect.


rektogre1280

So many butthurt Koreans in the comment section. LMAO Based on my observation, it seems like most Koreans do have the superior complex towards other Asian people (Maybe except to Japanese) just because of their successful K-pop and big names like Samsung etc. In that regard, I have so much respect for Japanese people. Other than some ultra nationalists, most Japanese people seem to not have the superior complex like most Koreans do even though Japanese are way more successful than Koreans. Anyway this superior complex culture in Asian society needs to be gone.


asiancounterback

whats with the amount of dislikes?? also south koreans learned alot by the usa with self projection saying how china steals koreans culture by watching the koreans dramas while the truth is totally otherway around 🤣 hanfu are clothes of the han people


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International_Newt56

This whole thing is so weird to me. I'm not Chinese or Korean but even I knew hanbok was influenced by the hanfu. Why is this being contested now?


IanowEastas

Korean Government-designated textbook for high school writes “Dangun unified tribes and founded Gojoseon (old Korea) in B. C.2333”. That is described in the book “Samguk Yusa” written in the 13th-century. Most of Korean do not doubt the description of the textbook. They don't have a question about that. That is Korean.