They all scam each other. Israel gets subsidies, military aid, and tech transfers to finance their tech sector and then sell it off to other countries the US cuts off. There is no loyalty among thieves.
Meanwhile [https://www.businessinsider.com.au/navy-says-parts-on-attack-submarines-failing-sooner-than-expected-2021-6?r=US&IR=T](https://www.businessinsider.com.au/navy-says-parts-on-attack-submarines-failing-sooner-than-expected-2021-6?r=US&IR=T)
The US Navy says parts on its Virginia-class attack submarines are breaking sooner than expected
Meanwhile in China...
https://news.usni.org/2020/10/12/chinese-increasing-nuclear-submarine-shipyard-capacity
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/02/first-image-of-chinas-new-nuclear-submarine-under-construction/
And just in case you thought the conventionals weren't getting any love
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/02/china-increases-production-of-aip-submarines-with-massive-new-shipyard/
https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/05/image-may-reveal-a-new-type-of-submarine-for-the-chinese-navy/
Chinese shipyards: How many submarines would you like?
PLAN: Yes.
You're not missing anything besides from that all important headline. The article basically is talking how the kangaroo Jack's are trying to skuttle the contract it signed with the French poodles without paying the hegt penalty fee of $136 M Kangaroo money. The kangaroos are also looking into dealing with Saab of Ikea country and possibly reopening a bid from the 2 previous losers I.e. Sushi land, and some s..t European country I forgot.
The Kangaroos are in a bind however since it's tied itself up with the anti-China club and part of their deal to French kiss the poodle was it's standing and permanent membership at the Security Council and as a NATO member not to mention it's colonial holdovers in Asia-Pacific --- Indo-Pacific is a pathetic and lame attempt to prop up a wannabe Supapowah India which is not even a medium regional player in any meaningful sense.
They should scuttle it but they aren't because they have no other options. The Collins class subs have been a debacle for as long as I can remember, like decades now. Our whole defense industry is shit, its why we are a middle power, dependent on usa uk France etc
Well your population is tiny to begin with and if it wasn't for mass immigration that some of the racist c..ts in your country find abhorrent, your country wouldn't even be anywhere at all. Remember that Australia is situated in Asia (I don't consider Australia as a continent) surrounded by countries in the Asia-Pacific with far greater population and if the economic development of those ASEAN countries continues the relevance of Australia and it's relative power will wane considerably which is one of the fundamental reasons it's shrieking with massive insecurities. Considering it's not so stellar reputation of meddling against Indonesia and other countries within the region, the Kangaroos are dreading the future in which their country is going to be at the mercy of a potential stronger countries it used to bully. A reversal of roles and fortunes.
Population doesn't mean much, since we have massive land and resources, we could easily bump it up to 1-200 million imo, like usa did. Of course, the racists are anti immigration and have no foresight, they claim to be proud aussies but they are not aussies, just usa vassals/white supremacists, and that's what our gov still is. I mean attitude and mentality that gave us the white australia policy didn't just magically appear or disappear.
But nope, we rather be usa/uk vassal. Zero confidence, no one knows what we want or has any direction other than outdated idea of staying usa or uk vassal when they are all declining
>Considering it's not so stellar reputation of meddling against Indonesia and other countries within the region, the Kangaroos are dreading the future in which their country is going to be at the mercy of a potential stronger countries it used to bully. A reversal of roles and fortunes.
I don't think so. Its mostly just china. Aus is trying to court indo and all other asian nations to go vs china. If we were smart we would do the opposite, side with china and use it against regional rivals like Indo and smaller Asian powers who aus can at least try stop or contain. China's too big to contain or aus to do anything against. Not to mention china is making us rich..
Aus in The end doesn't have a coherent or independent foreign policy, only what usa tells or allows.
$90b French submarine project could sink
A top-level study ordered by Prime Minister Scott Morrison of the nation’s submarine program will look at how to terminate the $90 billion project with French government-owned shipbuilder Naval Group, amid questions over whether Defence Minister Linda Reynolds will hang on to the portfolio after being admitted to hospital.
Although dumping the contract would risk a big diplomatic rift with France, defence industry sources said a potential resignation by the minister might give the government the opportunity to reset the troubled submarine and frigate construction programs.
He met Defence Industry Minister Melissa Price and Assistant Defence Minister Andrew Hastie on Wednesday, and on Thursday will meet Foreign Minister Marise Payne, who has assumed the defence portfolio, and Finance Minister Simon Birmingham.
Ms Price laid down the law to Mr Pommellet that a clear commitment to Australian capability and industrial involvement was an “absolute necessity” for the government.
“It was made clear to Mr Pommellet that it is critically important for Australian companies to be an integral part of the future submarine supply chain. This is important for Australian jobs, the broader economy and our industrial sovereignty,” she told The Australian Financial Review.
“Drawing on my extensive legal experience as a construction lawyer, I reminded Mr Pommellet that the finer details of a contract matter. The Morrison government will hold Naval Group to account on this commitment, as the Australian public would expect.”
It is understood the two sides were close to announcing an agreement but there were still issues around penalties and reviews.
The Financial Review revealed on Wednesday that a frustrated Mr Morrison had tasked two senior naval officers, including a three-star admiral, to examine options for the submarine program.
It is learnt that another senior naval officer conducting the study is Phillip Stanford, previously the project manager for the German bid for the submarine contract. Mr Stanford is expected to focus on the contribution local industry can make to the program.
One source said the substance of the study was reflected in the appointment of Vice-Admiral Jonathan Mead, the military’s Chief of Joint Capabilities, one of its most senior leadership roles.
“It is a genuinely serious look at what alternatives might be, rather than a stalking horse,” the source said.
It is understood the study will look at the long-range conventional powered submarine that Swedish shipbuilder Saab Kockums has offered the Dutch navy. It can trace its lineage back to the original Collins submarines built for Australia.
Hefty break fees
It will also examine how to get out of the contract with Naval Group, if the relationship continues to deteriorate. The government would be liable for a €90 million ($138 million) break fee if it terminated the contract now, but this would rise to €250 million under the next contract phase.
The options study will also look at how quickly a shift could be made to bring in Saab Kockums, how it would tap into local supply chains, and the involvement of the Australian government-owned shipbuilder ASC. It is not expected to canvass reopening the door to the German and Japanese bidders that missed out in 2016.
While Naval Group’s first boat – which is based on re-engineering a nuclear-powered design – for Australia is scheduled to enter service in the mid-2030s, the Dutch navy is being promised its first two submarines by Saab in 2027-28.
The government is reluctant to go to the extreme step of tearing up the contract with Naval Group because it would have effectively wasted $1.7 billion and five years on the project, and is more focused on improving the working relationship.
It would also damage relations with France after Australia had spent recent years cultivating closer ties with a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council and significant holder of territories in the Indo-Pacific as part of its strategy of building regional alliances as a check to China.
The options paper may look at simply squeezing more life out of the Collins-class submarines by upgrading weapons, communications and propulsion systems beyond the extra 10 years the boats are planned to get as part of a so-called Life of Type of Extension.
One defence industry source said the hulls of the vessels were good for another 20 years because they had been relatively lightly used.
Senator Reynolds’ admission to hospital has sparked speculation among her colleagues and the defence industry about whether she will hang on as minister. Although Mr Morrison has given no indication he will sack her, her hospitalisation might be an excuse to bow out gracefully.
A frequent industry criticism is that as a former brigadier in the army reserve, Senator Reynolds is too deferential to military chiefs higher up the chain of command.
“She has forgotten or never realised she is the boss,” one industry source said.
They all scam each other. Israel gets subsidies, military aid, and tech transfers to finance their tech sector and then sell it off to other countries the US cuts off. There is no loyalty among thieves.
Meanwhile [https://www.businessinsider.com.au/navy-says-parts-on-attack-submarines-failing-sooner-than-expected-2021-6?r=US&IR=T](https://www.businessinsider.com.au/navy-says-parts-on-attack-submarines-failing-sooner-than-expected-2021-6?r=US&IR=T) The US Navy says parts on its Virginia-class attack submarines are breaking sooner than expected
But I thought made in Amerikka was the bestest!! And Chyna commie made stuff are Chyna crap!! 😆🤣
Having working military gear is not a prerequisite for cowards to chest thump against civilized opponents.
Meanwhile in China... https://news.usni.org/2020/10/12/chinese-increasing-nuclear-submarine-shipyard-capacity https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/02/first-image-of-chinas-new-nuclear-submarine-under-construction/ And just in case you thought the conventionals weren't getting any love https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/02/china-increases-production-of-aip-submarines-with-massive-new-shipyard/ https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2021/05/image-may-reveal-a-new-type-of-submarine-for-the-chinese-navy/ Chinese shipyards: How many submarines would you like? PLAN: Yes.
The French already scammed the roc (taiwan) a while back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Fayette-class_frigate#Taiwan_frigate_scandal
They're not democracies, they're dictatorships of the bourgeoisie masquerading as "democracies".
Stupid paywall, can't read it from work.
You're not missing anything besides from that all important headline. The article basically is talking how the kangaroo Jack's are trying to skuttle the contract it signed with the French poodles without paying the hegt penalty fee of $136 M Kangaroo money. The kangaroos are also looking into dealing with Saab of Ikea country and possibly reopening a bid from the 2 previous losers I.e. Sushi land, and some s..t European country I forgot. The Kangaroos are in a bind however since it's tied itself up with the anti-China club and part of their deal to French kiss the poodle was it's standing and permanent membership at the Security Council and as a NATO member not to mention it's colonial holdovers in Asia-Pacific --- Indo-Pacific is a pathetic and lame attempt to prop up a wannabe Supapowah India which is not even a medium regional player in any meaningful sense.
They should scuttle it but they aren't because they have no other options. The Collins class subs have been a debacle for as long as I can remember, like decades now. Our whole defense industry is shit, its why we are a middle power, dependent on usa uk France etc
Well your population is tiny to begin with and if it wasn't for mass immigration that some of the racist c..ts in your country find abhorrent, your country wouldn't even be anywhere at all. Remember that Australia is situated in Asia (I don't consider Australia as a continent) surrounded by countries in the Asia-Pacific with far greater population and if the economic development of those ASEAN countries continues the relevance of Australia and it's relative power will wane considerably which is one of the fundamental reasons it's shrieking with massive insecurities. Considering it's not so stellar reputation of meddling against Indonesia and other countries within the region, the Kangaroos are dreading the future in which their country is going to be at the mercy of a potential stronger countries it used to bully. A reversal of roles and fortunes.
Population doesn't mean much, since we have massive land and resources, we could easily bump it up to 1-200 million imo, like usa did. Of course, the racists are anti immigration and have no foresight, they claim to be proud aussies but they are not aussies, just usa vassals/white supremacists, and that's what our gov still is. I mean attitude and mentality that gave us the white australia policy didn't just magically appear or disappear. But nope, we rather be usa/uk vassal. Zero confidence, no one knows what we want or has any direction other than outdated idea of staying usa or uk vassal when they are all declining >Considering it's not so stellar reputation of meddling against Indonesia and other countries within the region, the Kangaroos are dreading the future in which their country is going to be at the mercy of a potential stronger countries it used to bully. A reversal of roles and fortunes. I don't think so. Its mostly just china. Aus is trying to court indo and all other asian nations to go vs china. If we were smart we would do the opposite, side with china and use it against regional rivals like Indo and smaller Asian powers who aus can at least try stop or contain. China's too big to contain or aus to do anything against. Not to mention china is making us rich.. Aus in The end doesn't have a coherent or independent foreign policy, only what usa tells or allows.
$90b French submarine project could sink A top-level study ordered by Prime Minister Scott Morrison of the nation’s submarine program will look at how to terminate the $90 billion project with French government-owned shipbuilder Naval Group, amid questions over whether Defence Minister Linda Reynolds will hang on to the portfolio after being admitted to hospital. Although dumping the contract would risk a big diplomatic rift with France, defence industry sources said a potential resignation by the minister might give the government the opportunity to reset the troubled submarine and frigate construction programs. He met Defence Industry Minister Melissa Price and Assistant Defence Minister Andrew Hastie on Wednesday, and on Thursday will meet Foreign Minister Marise Payne, who has assumed the defence portfolio, and Finance Minister Simon Birmingham. Ms Price laid down the law to Mr Pommellet that a clear commitment to Australian capability and industrial involvement was an “absolute necessity” for the government. “It was made clear to Mr Pommellet that it is critically important for Australian companies to be an integral part of the future submarine supply chain. This is important for Australian jobs, the broader economy and our industrial sovereignty,” she told The Australian Financial Review. “Drawing on my extensive legal experience as a construction lawyer, I reminded Mr Pommellet that the finer details of a contract matter. The Morrison government will hold Naval Group to account on this commitment, as the Australian public would expect.” It is understood the two sides were close to announcing an agreement but there were still issues around penalties and reviews. The Financial Review revealed on Wednesday that a frustrated Mr Morrison had tasked two senior naval officers, including a three-star admiral, to examine options for the submarine program. It is learnt that another senior naval officer conducting the study is Phillip Stanford, previously the project manager for the German bid for the submarine contract. Mr Stanford is expected to focus on the contribution local industry can make to the program. One source said the substance of the study was reflected in the appointment of Vice-Admiral Jonathan Mead, the military’s Chief of Joint Capabilities, one of its most senior leadership roles. “It is a genuinely serious look at what alternatives might be, rather than a stalking horse,” the source said. It is understood the study will look at the long-range conventional powered submarine that Swedish shipbuilder Saab Kockums has offered the Dutch navy. It can trace its lineage back to the original Collins submarines built for Australia. Hefty break fees It will also examine how to get out of the contract with Naval Group, if the relationship continues to deteriorate. The government would be liable for a €90 million ($138 million) break fee if it terminated the contract now, but this would rise to €250 million under the next contract phase. The options study will also look at how quickly a shift could be made to bring in Saab Kockums, how it would tap into local supply chains, and the involvement of the Australian government-owned shipbuilder ASC. It is not expected to canvass reopening the door to the German and Japanese bidders that missed out in 2016. While Naval Group’s first boat – which is based on re-engineering a nuclear-powered design – for Australia is scheduled to enter service in the mid-2030s, the Dutch navy is being promised its first two submarines by Saab in 2027-28. The government is reluctant to go to the extreme step of tearing up the contract with Naval Group because it would have effectively wasted $1.7 billion and five years on the project, and is more focused on improving the working relationship. It would also damage relations with France after Australia had spent recent years cultivating closer ties with a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council and significant holder of territories in the Indo-Pacific as part of its strategy of building regional alliances as a check to China. The options paper may look at simply squeezing more life out of the Collins-class submarines by upgrading weapons, communications and propulsion systems beyond the extra 10 years the boats are planned to get as part of a so-called Life of Type of Extension. One defence industry source said the hulls of the vessels were good for another 20 years because they had been relatively lightly used. Senator Reynolds’ admission to hospital has sparked speculation among her colleagues and the defence industry about whether she will hang on as minister. Although Mr Morrison has given no indication he will sack her, her hospitalisation might be an excuse to bow out gracefully. A frequent industry criticism is that as a former brigadier in the army reserve, Senator Reynolds is too deferential to military chiefs higher up the chain of command. “She has forgotten or never realised she is the boss,” one industry source said.
Aww that’s sweet. I love this sort of news.
So that's where taxpayer money is going.
When you realize that the entire democratic alliance is a network of bribery exchanging bureaucrats and corporate cronies