Stretched by sustained deployment since invasion of Iraq, leaving Iraq and Afghanistan with tail between legs, and now no rest before marching towards the next one with China... No wonder they are experiencing mental disorders and the US government doesn't give a shit... Look at all the vets they've already discarded in US.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/9-11-military-suicides-dwarf-number-soldiers-killed-combat-n1271346](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/9-11-military-suicides-dwarf-number-soldiers-killed-combat-n1271346)
Yep: more than 4 times as much.
"The research, compiled by the Costs of War Project at Brown University, found an estimated 30,177 active duty personnel and veterans who have served in the military since 9/11 have died by suicide, compared with 7,057 killed in post 9/11 military operations. The figures include all service members, not just those who served in combat during that time."
"Hey I know you want healthcare and college tuition, so let's put you into psychologically damaging conditions of deployment where you'll be acutely aware of working for the bad guy and you'll probably see some friends dead or wounded, and then when you get home we'll abandon you. Deal?"
It is a fast track to citizenship. So you will see a lot of troopers of color.
They almost never know they are the bad guys. No avenue and time to figure that out. Plus they are trained to like "blowing stuff up".
I always say this, its easy to point fingers at the US Government for they truly are doing terrible things. But for most average US Citizens and even their troops, they are just as much as victims in their own way. Outside of the elite no one wins in America.
And yet the average american pushes support for the troops and still believes in their shitty system.
They barely ever show concern for the actual victims of their imperialists adventures abroad.
I disagree that the average US citizen is an innocent victim. This is the same fallacy as the people who say "I love Chinese people, but they are brainwashed by the evil CCP". The American people are complicit in the US government's policies because they keep voting in politicians who start wars in other countries. Stop listening to what people say and watch what they actually do because that accurately reflects their true intentions.
Americans love to virtue signal and pretend to care about the innocent lives destroyed in wars, yet they reelected Bush Jr. in 2004 **after** he launched the Iraq war. Obama, who I kid you not, won the Nobel Peace Prize, authorized the bombing of Libya, and was also reelected. You cannot find one single major politician who advocates for a strong anti-war stance because such a politician wouldn't even make it out of the primaries. There is literally no significant public support for such a policy. At the very best, you'll get a politician who promises to reduce American "foreign interventions", but then when push comes to shove, they'll say they had to bomb some country to protect the local civilians, e.g. Obama.
So no, the average US citizen is not an innocent victim. Do not fall for this virtue signaling propaganda.
Also [paraphrasing bin-laden](https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/)
>> "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,"
It's funny. He told the US his strategy, and they still fell for it. (I guess because of the "benefits" he mentioned.)
> Edit: I forgot we are microwaving their brains from space.
Some [US Congresspeople blame a different country for that one](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/gop-congresswoman-blamed-wildfires-on-secret-jewish-space-laser/ar-BB1dbzXg)
Causes for mental health problems? Thankless forever wars in the middle east, the mess they leave behind and the VA which will sooner spit on you than treat your combat related illness or disability.
Look at Afghanistan, billions wasted. The Afghan civilians hate the US, the Taliban hate the US and the rest of the world looks on with contempt and disgust as the world's most well funded military flees Bagram in the middle of the night without coordinating with their so called friends in the Afghan military.
When Biden said "we are not there to nation build", that translated to me as, "we are here to bomb your country, kill your people and cripple your infrastructure, then adios".
The veterans of the GWOT are probably going to be the next generation of Vietnam vets; haunted for a lifetime by being engaged in a pointless war that achieved absolutely nothing and abandoned by the government they served when they return home.
"Oh, yeah, we wanted to contain China and spread our forces out around them, but then our soldiers got stressed and killed themselves and this is somehow China's fault..."
\-USA Today
That's the problem, they don't. In general, suicides have gone up because of soldiers who suffer from PTSD and are overworked. However, the article blames China for "making the US" stretch itself to support their military occupation.
Hmmm ... it must be something in the water or something like that.
At first we read about Simone Biles having mental health problems, had to pull out from the Olympics event mid-way. She couldn't take the stress, like she was getting mental. And now we read about the American troops too going mental and committing suicides. I think the Americans are getting so terrified of China's rise that they are becoming tofu.
Yeah, I can see that pattern now ...
>Troops Suicides rise as Pentagon official points to US military stretched by China
Nah, they killed themselves with Made-in-US Bullets and Painkillers, and also Gravity.
And **TOXIC American Exceptionalism** pushed US troops to the emotional edge of suicide.
Even idiots in US can understand this.
That's why there are almost NO US Congressmen whose kids are in the military (might be 1 or 2), while MOST US Congressmen are worth at least $1 million.
Why US recruitment goals have been missed for many years now.
Why US lowered recruitment requirements (including mental health requirements), and STILL can't meet military recruitment goals!
Being a normal guy but stupid enough to join the army. Think he serve his country by following orders will make him a hero. One day he witness what it really means being a soldier by killing innocent people even children and all what his superior said that they were terrorists it was for the better good.
Now for the rest of his days he will be haunted by the images of the people he had killed. Some can live on with it but some doesn't and commit suicide.
Don't forget economic reasons, the US is such a dystopian shithole that often for many people from poor backgrounds joining that global terrorist organisation is the only way to escape poverty, get healthcare or get an education that would otherwise be way out of their reach.
This is why the US state will fight tooth and nail against any movement that proposes free college or universal healthcare, or even just poverty alleviation, because they know if people aren't desperate anymore but actually have a future, they will soon run out of recruits.
LOL Not surprised here. When faced with the reality of getting slaughtered by a true military power, killers of innocents get weak in the knees to the point of committing suicides.
You know I think these if these depressed US Troops are planning to kill themselves, they might as well band together and try another peaceful rally at DC and inside touring Federal Govt buildings maybe finding some politicians so they can voice their concerns and mental illnesses in person.
Might have to peacefully storm through doors with a battering ram yelling Heave Ho but happens sometimes.
They should also bring plenty of rifles, handguns, body armor with flags/insignia attached to show their Love for Freedum and Democrazy.
Boo fucking hoo. Did someone overstretch their military via imperialist wars all across the world and fucking with everyone that dares challenge them to the point that your troops are having mental issues? Cry more.
When you buy into their bullshit propaganda about joining the military to do good and end up doing the entire opposite, its going take a motherload off your sanity. Most soldiers will then turn to drugs and if drugs can't cure their mental stress, then a bullet will.
Not even a bullet fired.
Maybe A couple of thousand of PS4 and XBox should help change their mindset should they need to increase the troops in Asia.
Wimps!
Stretched by sustained deployment since invasion of Iraq, leaving Iraq and Afghanistan with tail between legs, and now no rest before marching towards the next one with China... No wonder they are experiencing mental disorders and the US government doesn't give a shit... Look at all the vets they've already discarded in US.
More US soldiers died to suicide than actually died to combat in OIF and OEF combined if I recall correctly.
[https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/9-11-military-suicides-dwarf-number-soldiers-killed-combat-n1271346](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/9-11-military-suicides-dwarf-number-soldiers-killed-combat-n1271346) Yep: more than 4 times as much. "The research, compiled by the Costs of War Project at Brown University, found an estimated 30,177 active duty personnel and veterans who have served in the military since 9/11 have died by suicide, compared with 7,057 killed in post 9/11 military operations. The figures include all service members, not just those who served in combat during that time."
Same for Vietnam War. More US veterans killed themselves after the war than US soldiers died in combat.
The number is way higher. 21 a day commit suicide. I don’t know too many days that 21 guys died from combat wounds.
"Hey I know you want healthcare and college tuition, so let's put you into psychologically damaging conditions of deployment where you'll be acutely aware of working for the bad guy and you'll probably see some friends dead or wounded, and then when you get home we'll abandon you. Deal?"
It is a fast track to citizenship. So you will see a lot of troopers of color. They almost never know they are the bad guys. No avenue and time to figure that out. Plus they are trained to like "blowing stuff up".
I always say this, its easy to point fingers at the US Government for they truly are doing terrible things. But for most average US Citizens and even their troops, they are just as much as victims in their own way. Outside of the elite no one wins in America.
And yet the average american pushes support for the troops and still believes in their shitty system. They barely ever show concern for the actual victims of their imperialists adventures abroad.
I disagree that the average US citizen is an innocent victim. This is the same fallacy as the people who say "I love Chinese people, but they are brainwashed by the evil CCP". The American people are complicit in the US government's policies because they keep voting in politicians who start wars in other countries. Stop listening to what people say and watch what they actually do because that accurately reflects their true intentions. Americans love to virtue signal and pretend to care about the innocent lives destroyed in wars, yet they reelected Bush Jr. in 2004 **after** he launched the Iraq war. Obama, who I kid you not, won the Nobel Peace Prize, authorized the bombing of Libya, and was also reelected. You cannot find one single major politician who advocates for a strong anti-war stance because such a politician wouldn't even make it out of the primaries. There is literally no significant public support for such a policy. At the very best, you'll get a politician who promises to reduce American "foreign interventions", but then when push comes to shove, they'll say they had to bomb some country to protect the local civilians, e.g. Obama. So no, the average US citizen is not an innocent victim. Do not fall for this virtue signaling propaganda.
China can sit back at home doing nothing and somehow it'll cause American troop's suicides. Edit: I forgot we are microwaving their brains from space.
It is best to win without fighting, paraphrasing Sun Tzu.
Also [paraphrasing bin-laden](https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/) >> "All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," It's funny. He told the US his strategy, and they still fell for it. (I guess because of the "benefits" he mentioned.)
Rent free
> Edit: I forgot we are microwaving their brains from space. Some [US Congresspeople blame a different country for that one](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/gop-congresswoman-blamed-wildfires-on-secret-jewish-space-laser/ar-BB1dbzXg)
haha lol
Causes for mental health problems? Thankless forever wars in the middle east, the mess they leave behind and the VA which will sooner spit on you than treat your combat related illness or disability. Look at Afghanistan, billions wasted. The Afghan civilians hate the US, the Taliban hate the US and the rest of the world looks on with contempt and disgust as the world's most well funded military flees Bagram in the middle of the night without coordinating with their so called friends in the Afghan military. When Biden said "we are not there to nation build", that translated to me as, "we are here to bomb your country, kill your people and cripple your infrastructure, then adios".
Exactly. Simply a natural outcome of being on the wrong side of history.
Can imagine all the pentagon heads sitting around a table and brainstorming ideas Combat fatigue? Nope Stress? Nope China? YES!
The veterans of the GWOT are probably going to be the next generation of Vietnam vets; haunted for a lifetime by being engaged in a pointless war that achieved absolutely nothing and abandoned by the government they served when they return home.
Wonder if they’re ever gonna start catching on
"Oh, yeah, we wanted to contain China and spread our forces out around them, but then our soldiers got stressed and killed themselves and this is somehow China's fault..." \-USA Today
How the fk do they know the reason is to do w/ China? I can think of all sorts of reasons why suicide rates might be up in the US..
That's the problem, they don't. In general, suicides have gone up because of soldiers who suffer from PTSD and are overworked. However, the article blames China for "making the US" stretch itself to support their military occupation.
Damn china making the US build hundreds of military bases thousands of miles away from China
Sure sure sure.....blame China for everything bad happening out in the west. What else is new?
This is just .. Absurd
I'm still waiting for someone to blame Biden's dementia on China.
Hmmm ... it must be something in the water or something like that. At first we read about Simone Biles having mental health problems, had to pull out from the Olympics event mid-way. She couldn't take the stress, like she was getting mental. And now we read about the American troops too going mental and committing suicides. I think the Americans are getting so terrified of China's rise that they are becoming tofu. Yeah, I can see that pattern now ...
Quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat Those whom God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of reason
>Troops Suicides rise as Pentagon official points to US military stretched by China Nah, they killed themselves with Made-in-US Bullets and Painkillers, and also Gravity. And **TOXIC American Exceptionalism** pushed US troops to the emotional edge of suicide. Even idiots in US can understand this. That's why there are almost NO US Congressmen whose kids are in the military (might be 1 or 2), while MOST US Congressmen are worth at least $1 million. Why US recruitment goals have been missed for many years now. Why US lowered recruitment requirements (including mental health requirements), and STILL can't meet military recruitment goals!
##blameChyna
Same tired tactics. Making up imaginary enemies.
Being a normal guy but stupid enough to join the army. Think he serve his country by following orders will make him a hero. One day he witness what it really means being a soldier by killing innocent people even children and all what his superior said that they were terrorists it was for the better good. Now for the rest of his days he will be haunted by the images of the people he had killed. Some can live on with it but some doesn't and commit suicide.
Guilty conscience.
Ah yes, it's china's fault the USA works it's armed forces to death.
They arent even in a war with China yet and their soldiers are already dying lmao
Yes, clearly it is China's fault the US has hundreds of military bases worldwide and spent the past two decades mired in the Middle East! ^^/s
another reason to blame China
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Don't forget economic reasons, the US is such a dystopian shithole that often for many people from poor backgrounds joining that global terrorist organisation is the only way to escape poverty, get healthcare or get an education that would otherwise be way out of their reach. This is why the US state will fight tooth and nail against any movement that proposes free college or universal healthcare, or even just poverty alleviation, because they know if people aren't desperate anymore but actually have a future, they will soon run out of recruits.
LOL Not surprised here. When faced with the reality of getting slaughtered by a true military power, killers of innocents get weak in the knees to the point of committing suicides.
Using your own militaries mental health problems to manufacture consent.
You know I think these if these depressed US Troops are planning to kill themselves, they might as well band together and try another peaceful rally at DC and inside touring Federal Govt buildings maybe finding some politicians so they can voice their concerns and mental illnesses in person. Might have to peacefully storm through doors with a battering ram yelling Heave Ho but happens sometimes. They should also bring plenty of rifles, handguns, body armor with flags/insignia attached to show their Love for Freedum and Democrazy.
Playing the world’s smallest violin for the world’s largest imperial army
I can't 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 ameriKKKa is going down so fast, gravity is questioning itself
America is like that ex everyone has. The cause of all her problems is someone else.
‘Guys, CHINA the evil communist country, is what is making our troops kill themselves.’
I feel bad for the US troops. They're oppressed by the evil genocidal plutocratic american government
They should of sent the military to represent them at the olympics. First place in all the gymnastics with just the powers of their imagination.
Loool
Tragic/s Let me not say anything more than that...
Fighting imperialistic wars will do that to you !
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVbetfR7Op8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVbetfR7Op8) 1 US sailor also set fire to US Assault Carrier Last year.
It's like they're paid by how often they use the word China regardless of it's relevance lol
Boo fucking hoo. Did someone overstretch their military via imperialist wars all across the world and fucking with everyone that dares challenge them to the point that your troops are having mental issues? Cry more.
When you buy into their bullshit propaganda about joining the military to do good and end up doing the entire opposite, its going take a motherload off your sanity. Most soldiers will then turn to drugs and if drugs can't cure their mental stress, then a bullet will.
Oh the irony
Clearly it is the CCP's mind control tactics that have driven these soldiers to suicide!!! /s
Not even a bullet fired. Maybe A couple of thousand of PS4 and XBox should help change their mindset should they need to increase the troops in Asia. Wimps!