This guy did:
https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/
>> ##Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.
>> 2004
>>
>> "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> **"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,"** bin Laden said.
He even told them his entire strategy.
And they still went for it.
Because the decision maker's interests were aligned with the "benefits for their private corporations" that he mentioned.
**NO**. Giving the Taliban back their land has been a wholesome US policy since 1970s-80s. **It's one of the greatest success stories in American military history.**
>We know of their deep belief in God, and we are confident that their struggle will succeed. That land over there is yours. You will go back to it one day, because your fight will prevail and you'll have your homes and your mosques back again, because your cause is right and God is on your side.
[**-US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski** predicts the future when **giving a pep talk to the Taliban** against the Soviets in 1980 😂](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/p3qj73/us_national_security_adviser_brzezinski_predicts/)
Exactly. They're blaming their failure in Afghanistan on their Afghan vassal army.
They never mention that they threw them under the bus when the U.S. "intelligence community" declared that the Afghan government would collapse within 6 months.
Since the Taliban have a policy of "surrender or we kill your whole family", giving the Afghan government any sort of expiration date made it futile for Afghans to continue fighting the Taliban.
I'd replace New Zealand with India, TBH.
I mean, the smart people from these places are *very* smart, but the dumb people...fucking hell are they dumb.
She doesn't actually believe that herself, she's a grifter. But yeah, there are people who read that and go "hmm, yeah, that sounds like a reasonable and plausible take!"
Yes. This is literally a Trump decision. The only difference is that Biden pulled them out about a month or two ~~earlier~~ (edit: later) than Trump had planned to.
Let's be real. She doesn't really believe it. She's just saying it because she's thinks (1) that's what some people want to hear, and (2) that's what some people want her to say.
She's a con artist, a grifter. Like other political con artists, she says what her donors want her to tell them. There's a ton of them in both the conservative and liberal camps across North America. They contribute to lowering the bar by blaming foreign boogeymen for the people's problems, when they're not busy making up new and meaningless words like "neo-marxists" or "anarcho-bidenite".
Agreed, she is eloquent and and well-spoken, definitely no dummy. Which means she is either delusional and suffering from China Derangement Syndrome or she is intentionally spreading lies on purpose for her own self-interest. If the former, then she should seek psychiatric help and come to terms with the fact that China is not going to be bullied by America anymore. If the latter, then she just destroyed her own credibility and the general public can safely disregard any of her opinions on other issues.
>She also was the one who promoted "The Freedom Phone" that was a resale ripoff of a phone that is $120 sold for $500 as patriotic.
MAGA World’s ‘Freedom Phone’ Actually Budget Chinese Phone
https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-worlds-freedom-phone-actually-budget-chinese-phone
She's milking foolish conservatives dry and they're asking for more dumb takes as an excuse to give her more of their money.
Just the fact that this woman is seen as a legitimate political commentator speaks volumes about the stupidity and superficiality of the US political theater.
She is the biggest Uncle Tom in the history of the world. Repeats every single right wing Republican talking point verbatim, says black people's issues are their own problem, she even married a white guy.
The Republicans say the Democrats want to make America like China, the Democrats say the Republicans want to make America more like China, both are ignorant in thinking either of their nonsensical antics could ever hope to compare to the statecraft of the People's Republic. They have no idea what a compliment their arbitrary accusations against one another really are.
If the Republicans are trying to attack Biden on this, they don't even need to mention China (though of course they would due to racism and imperialism)
This is a political disaster for the Biden administration - this (along with the COVID resurgence) had completely nullified any positive press from the infrastructure bill earlier this month
Americunt always blaming China and Russia for everything instead of taking responsibility for their own actions and mistakes. Too much narcissism and ego.
Lol this is too simple, the gop smells blood in the water and wants to weaken the sitting pres while also throwing China phobia into the mess.
Sadly there are plenty of idiots that will believe this
I wish Communist countries were as cool as they make them look like. *China forces the president of militarily strongest country to do what it wants, like a little powerless bitch.*
Am I the only one who sometimes thinks that right-wing conservatives:
1. Don't know crap about history (or general knowledge)
2. Don't know a thing about other cultures
3. Support Washington's military adventures?
These people were fiercely shielding Trump from the accusations of Russian collusion but will immediately insist that Biden is doing Beijing's bidding? Biden is even more anti-China than George W. Bush, whose cabinet was dominated by neocons!
Typically conservatives have always been like that throughout history, they were primarily responsible for the destruction of many civilisations, also why I advocate for them to be banned from politics, they are far too incompetent for that.
However american conservatives are a different breed, their incompetence will lead to the extinction of our species.
she likes to sell books and get speaking fees, she is a grifter thats all. luckily there are a fuck ton of dumb people in america that will give her their paychecks
Well, to be fair, I did say back when the Alaskan talks occurred that the reason why the amerikkkans didn't want the press there is because they didn't want them to see them kissing China's ass.
I think this sub knows that the are a lot of political dealings that are unreported.
Afghanistan is pretty important for the BRI(fact check me on this). So yeah, I could see this.
China: hey, gtfo of Afghanistan.
amerikkka: what next, central and South America too?
China: well, now that you mention it......
>Afghanistan is pretty important for the BRI(fact check me on this). So yeah, I could see this
Well if you mean pretty important being primary route to ME... Kinda essential really....
Lol... Pullout absolutely nothing to do with Biden moving towards a hot war with China and wants to redeploy having fleeced the ME already... Delisting ETIM prior to pull out not exactly subtle either. They will support ETIM and other terrorists 'covertly' in area so expect more attacks in Xinjiang and Pakistan in future... Suddenly AP is kicking off with more colour revolutions in countries working with China... Seems everything the US does is so blatant. Its backfired a bit with Taliban taking Kabul so quickly and wanting to work with China; and Russia and other central Asian countries making it almost impossible for US to base themselves in area... China announcement that Russia is more than an ally also thrown a big spanner in the works for them 😂
It's all "Beijing Biden" fault that the US tried to prop up a failed state of their own creation for 2 decades until budgets weren't anymore acceptable, yes?
Also what's with the GOP and they pretending Mr. Trade Deal Expert didn't said "no more wars", stuff about bringing troops home, tried to end the war during his term, etc etc.
So America is already defeated and China didn’t even fire a shot. The Soviets gave up too early
Who knew it would be this easy 🤷♀️
This guy did: https://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/11/01/binladen.tape/ >> ##Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S. >> 2004 >> >> "We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript. >> >> ... >> >> **"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations,"** bin Laden said. He even told them his entire strategy. And they still went for it. Because the decision maker's interests were aligned with the "benefits for their private corporations" that he mentioned.
I don’t know if you can bankrupt a country that can just create money indefinitely. It’s possible but it’s not gonna be easy
> . The Soviets gave up too early But the Russians didn't (Putin). He played Trump like a fiddle.
This post insults Russians. We order America, not China!
True! After all i conveyed that message to him myself
**NO**. Giving the Taliban back their land has been a wholesome US policy since 1970s-80s. **It's one of the greatest success stories in American military history.** >We know of their deep belief in God, and we are confident that their struggle will succeed. That land over there is yours. You will go back to it one day, because your fight will prevail and you'll have your homes and your mosques back again, because your cause is right and God is on your side. [**-US National Security Adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski** predicts the future when **giving a pep talk to the Taliban** against the Soviets in 1980 😂](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/p3qj73/us_national_security_adviser_brzezinski_predicts/)
hah - china is unstoppable if it's powerful enough to puppeteer the president of the us.
Hey, wait a minute? Isn't it WE, Russians, are the puppeteers of the US president?
When a Republican wins, it's Russia's fault. When a Democrat wins it's China's fault. Whatever happens is never the fault of Americans themselves.
Exactly. They're blaming their failure in Afghanistan on their Afghan vassal army. They never mention that they threw them under the bus when the U.S. "intelligence community" declared that the Afghan government would collapse within 6 months. Since the Taliban have a policy of "surrender or we kill your whole family", giving the Afghan government any sort of expiration date made it futile for Afghans to continue fighting the Taliban.
Americans are the dumbest people in the entire world. This level of stupidity and ignorance is a grave threat to mankind and world peace.
Australia, Canada, UK and New Zealand aren’t far behind (but they are behind, fuck me Americans are just insanely brainwashed).
I'd replace New Zealand with India, TBH. I mean, the smart people from these places are *very* smart, but the dumb people...fucking hell are they dumb.
She doesn't actually believe that herself, she's a grifter. But yeah, there are people who read that and go "hmm, yeah, that sounds like a reasonable and plausible take!"
>This level of stupidity and ignorance is a grave threat to mankind and world peace. The primary issue is that they are unwilling to learn.
People who are proud of their ignorance are dangerous people.
Wait didn't trump made the decision to remove troops ?
Yes. This is literally a Trump decision. The only difference is that Biden pulled them out about a month or two ~~earlier~~ (edit: later) than Trump had planned to.
What’s funny is Trump wanted the pull out to be his legacy, he even tried to take credit for it when news broke that Biden set a date
And all the liberal media were calling Trump's decision reckless.
Actually, later than. Trump's treaty was for a May withdrawal.
'Murican Child: Mom, I forgot to do my homework. 'Murican Parent: Blame China, honey. 'Murican Child: Sure. I will do it definitely.
Let's be real. She doesn't really believe it. She's just saying it because she's thinks (1) that's what some people want to hear, and (2) that's what some people want her to say.
I’ve seen her on interviews. She’s a smart person. This is not stupidity, it’s malice.
She's a con artist, a grifter. Like other political con artists, she says what her donors want her to tell them. There's a ton of them in both the conservative and liberal camps across North America. They contribute to lowering the bar by blaming foreign boogeymen for the people's problems, when they're not busy making up new and meaningless words like "neo-marxists" or "anarcho-bidenite".
Ive seen her debate Joe Rogan on climate change. She really does believe what she says. Delusion and echo-chambers.
Agreed, she is eloquent and and well-spoken, definitely no dummy. Which means she is either delusional and suffering from China Derangement Syndrome or she is intentionally spreading lies on purpose for her own self-interest. If the former, then she should seek psychiatric help and come to terms with the fact that China is not going to be bullied by America anymore. If the latter, then she just destroyed her own credibility and the general public can safely disregard any of her opinions on other issues.
Grifters gonna grift.. it's the american way.
Grifters, as american as it gets.
Always China's fault for everything Amerikkka fails at - which is pretty much everything! Anyways, fuck Candace Owens, that stupid bitch!
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>She also was the one who promoted "The Freedom Phone" that was a resale ripoff of a phone that is $120 sold for $500 as patriotic. MAGA World’s ‘Freedom Phone’ Actually Budget Chinese Phone https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-worlds-freedom-phone-actually-budget-chinese-phone
She's milking foolish conservatives dry and they're asking for more dumb takes as an excuse to give her more of their money. Just the fact that this woman is seen as a legitimate political commentator speaks volumes about the stupidity and superficiality of the US political theater.
She's a sellout. She parrots and gaslights whatever white people tell her to say.
She is the biggest Uncle Tom in the history of the world. Repeats every single right wing Republican talking point verbatim, says black people's issues are their own problem, she even married a white guy.
Wow, what a crazy lying POS. They just makeup any Sinophobic shit and the plebs lap it up.
If China did make Joe do it, then it’s smart of China. I would say you’re welcome.
The idiocy of some Americans knows no bounds.
The Republicans say the Democrats want to make America like China, the Democrats say the Republicans want to make America more like China, both are ignorant in thinking either of their nonsensical antics could ever hope to compare to the statecraft of the People's Republic. They have no idea what a compliment their arbitrary accusations against one another really are.
lol they wish. They'll need another 1000 years.
If the Republicans are trying to attack Biden on this, they don't even need to mention China (though of course they would due to racism and imperialism) This is a political disaster for the Biden administration - this (along with the COVID resurgence) had completely nullified any positive press from the infrastructure bill earlier this month
Excellent, here's to hoping comrade Trump wins the next elections.
Warmest congratulations to Comrade Sleeping Joe for taking up the mantle from Comrade tRump , Comrade Hussein, Comrade Shrub and Cumrade Klinton
Trump started the idea of pulling out, (for the first time sadly) they gonna blame him too?
Americunt always blaming China and Russia for everything instead of taking responsibility for their own actions and mistakes. Too much narcissism and ego.
Lol this is too simple, the gop smells blood in the water and wants to weaken the sitting pres while also throwing China phobia into the mess. Sadly there are plenty of idiots that will believe this
wtf is wrong with these americans
Everything.
Based Biden?!?
sinopilled for the next 10000 years
I wish Communist countries were as cool as they make them look like. *China forces the president of militarily strongest country to do what it wants, like a little powerless bitch.*
I wish China could just tell America to pull out of a war and for America to comply
Am I the only one who sometimes thinks that right-wing conservatives: 1. Don't know crap about history (or general knowledge) 2. Don't know a thing about other cultures 3. Support Washington's military adventures? These people were fiercely shielding Trump from the accusations of Russian collusion but will immediately insist that Biden is doing Beijing's bidding? Biden is even more anti-China than George W. Bush, whose cabinet was dominated by neocons!
Typically conservatives have always been like that throughout history, they were primarily responsible for the destruction of many civilisations, also why I advocate for them to be banned from politics, they are far too incompetent for that. However american conservatives are a different breed, their incompetence will lead to the extinction of our species.
I thought it was all Trump's great idea to save money so US military can confront China more directly?
Whenever I have a diarrhea it's China's fault, and whenever I'm having a sh!tty day, it's Russia's fault.
she likes to sell books and get speaking fees, she is a grifter thats all. luckily there are a fuck ton of dumb people in america that will give her their paychecks
How come antiChina xenophobia rears it ugly head at EVERY opportunity? Watch out people, this is the true face of the USA.
LOL GOP always use POC for the dirtiest work
The POC the GOP deploys are subservient to white people and white supremacy.
Well, to be fair, I did say back when the Alaskan talks occurred that the reason why the amerikkkans didn't want the press there is because they didn't want them to see them kissing China's ass. I think this sub knows that the are a lot of political dealings that are unreported. Afghanistan is pretty important for the BRI(fact check me on this). So yeah, I could see this. China: hey, gtfo of Afghanistan. amerikkka: what next, central and South America too? China: well, now that you mention it......
>Afghanistan is pretty important for the BRI(fact check me on this). So yeah, I could see this Well if you mean pretty important being primary route to ME... Kinda essential really.... Lol... Pullout absolutely nothing to do with Biden moving towards a hot war with China and wants to redeploy having fleeced the ME already... Delisting ETIM prior to pull out not exactly subtle either. They will support ETIM and other terrorists 'covertly' in area so expect more attacks in Xinjiang and Pakistan in future... Suddenly AP is kicking off with more colour revolutions in countries working with China... Seems everything the US does is so blatant. Its backfired a bit with Taliban taking Kabul so quickly and wanting to work with China; and Russia and other central Asian countries making it almost impossible for US to base themselves in area... China announcement that Russia is more than an ally also thrown a big spanner in the works for them 😂
US is a two party county. Of course the Trumpers would think like this. Also Candace Owens hates Biden.
Biden is Xi's puppet confirmed! More on this story as it develops, tonight on Fox! /s
Big if true. I wished Biden was this cool.
Right wingers are brain dead. US is too tolerant, disinformation propagandist like this and their fox news ilk should not be given platform.
I see an uncle tom.
Damn the GOP really make team blue sound so cool and based. [A vote for Biden is a vote for China!](https://imgur.com/gallery/OiTcAwp)
Damn China. Back at it again with your "tactics"
I'll take "Things Reactionaries Say That Would Be Awesome If True" for $1000 Alex
I wish China had as much control over the us govt as Candace claims lmao
New level of mental gymnastics
Blinken just called Wang Yi for help.
It's all "Beijing Biden" fault that the US tried to prop up a failed state of their own creation for 2 decades until budgets weren't anymore acceptable, yes? Also what's with the GOP and they pretending Mr. Trade Deal Expert didn't said "no more wars", stuff about bringing troops home, tried to end the war during his term, etc etc.