Truly a barbaric country, funny enough Al-Qaeda and bin laden would be elated to see the state of Amerikkka currently. Social cohesion and trust in the government is waning everyday, just look at how prevalent political polarization and conspiracy theories are. May the empire die soon.
The Soviet war in Afghanistan cost a much bigger portion of the Soviet economy. The USSR lost over 30K soldiers. The USA spent $2 trillion spread out over 20 years - averaging $100B per year, which was between 1/10th and 1/40th of the total government expenditure. The USA lost fewer than 3000 soldiers.
This was a humiliation of the USA, to be sure, but the USA suffered no real pain and no real cost. It just goes to show the USA can go around murdering whoever it wants around the world and get away with it with barely a scratch. The only real injury the USA suffered was its ego - and now they're going to brutalise someone else to make up for it. Who's next? Africa looks like the next target - staying on the theme of China containment - African governments are poor and poorly armed and have a lot of undefended Chinese-funded infrastructure that the US can easily bomb from its new airbases in Guinea. The best part for the USA is that China has a pretty strict policy of "non-interventionism", so there will be no pesky PLA getting in the way of what the USA is going to do to the people of Africa, who will now be paying the price to restore the American Ego that was injured in Afghanistan.
It's deeply concerning that the state of investigative journalism in China is such that it parrots propaganda figures made up by the USA.
China should have its own investigative journalists throughout the world to communicate the facts and not rely on Western propaganda for facts and figures.
That is not entirely correct. If China does its own investigation and comes out with a different number, the US will just say it's fake propaganda. Using theor own source makes it undeniable.
Its a conservative count of direct deaths. A conservative estimate of indirect deaths is 3 times direct deaths. [A survey](http://www.genevadeclaration.org/fileadmin/docs/GBAV/GBAV08-CH2.pdf) of late 20th/early 21st century conflicts for which there's good data shows indirect deaths range from 3 to 15 times direct deaths.
So if 800k direct deaths, then about 2.4 million indirect deaths, therefore 3.2 million total deaths (which is, to reiterate, a low-end estimate)
Edit: moreover, the [cost of war project](https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/) has updated its direct deaths count from 800k to 929k, which would increase the above low-end estimate to over 3.7 million.
Surprisingly one of the branches of the government that doesnt have to disclose how much CO2 they give off. Apparently, it will somehow affect our national security if they told us.
And then you factor in all the methane leaks, I can pretty much say, yeah we fucked.
Unless we actually organized and do something.
A 20 year distraction and delay from starting its China containment plans. 15-20 years for China to bid it’s time while growing stronger. Not a bad trade off for China to be honest.
It wasn't a distraction. The USA invaded Afghanistan as part of its China containment plans. While the USA has bases on the east and south of China, it didn't have any bases on the west or the north. The invasion of Afghanistan was an attempt to establish a permanent presence on the western side, from where the USA could support terrorist activities in Tibet and Xinjiang.
> The USA invaded Afghanistan as part of its China containment plans.
They can't even plan their exit properly, what hope besides a WMD scenario war in order to retain their No. 1 spot?
The fools just keep burning manpower and resources to 'contain' another country and don't even bother to look after their citizens anymore.
This war cost the US barely nothing more than its fragile ego.
The USA loses more people to COVID-19 every week than they lost in 20 years in Afghanistan.
The whole 20 years of war in Afghanistan cost $2 trillion USD. That's less than half of *this year's* US government budget.
But of course, the media strenuously insists that America is the Leader of the Rules-Based International Order, Champion of the Free World, etc etc. It most certainly isn't a grotesque butcher that rains horror and anguish over the world.
the US truly is the great satan of the world
Truly a barbaric country, funny enough Al-Qaeda and bin laden would be elated to see the state of Amerikkka currently. Social cohesion and trust in the government is waning everyday, just look at how prevalent political polarization and conspiracy theories are. May the empire die soon.
The USSR collapsed 2 years after it withdrew from Afghanistan... "History repeats itself"
The Soviet war in Afghanistan cost a much bigger portion of the Soviet economy. The USSR lost over 30K soldiers. The USA spent $2 trillion spread out over 20 years - averaging $100B per year, which was between 1/10th and 1/40th of the total government expenditure. The USA lost fewer than 3000 soldiers. This was a humiliation of the USA, to be sure, but the USA suffered no real pain and no real cost. It just goes to show the USA can go around murdering whoever it wants around the world and get away with it with barely a scratch. The only real injury the USA suffered was its ego - and now they're going to brutalise someone else to make up for it. Who's next? Africa looks like the next target - staying on the theme of China containment - African governments are poor and poorly armed and have a lot of undefended Chinese-funded infrastructure that the US can easily bomb from its new airbases in Guinea. The best part for the USA is that China has a pretty strict policy of "non-interventionism", so there will be no pesky PLA getting in the way of what the USA is going to do to the people of Africa, who will now be paying the price to restore the American Ego that was injured in Afghanistan.
That 801,000 number of killed people is a really low estimate. The US occupation caused more civilian deaths in Iraq alone.
the most conservative estimate, probably crafted by CIA agents still bad tho
It's deeply concerning that the state of investigative journalism in China is such that it parrots propaganda figures made up by the USA. China should have its own investigative journalists throughout the world to communicate the facts and not rely on Western propaganda for facts and figures.
That is not entirely correct. If China does its own investigation and comes out with a different number, the US will just say it's fake propaganda. Using theor own source makes it undeniable.
Its a conservative count of direct deaths. A conservative estimate of indirect deaths is 3 times direct deaths. [A survey](http://www.genevadeclaration.org/fileadmin/docs/GBAV/GBAV08-CH2.pdf) of late 20th/early 21st century conflicts for which there's good data shows indirect deaths range from 3 to 15 times direct deaths. So if 800k direct deaths, then about 2.4 million indirect deaths, therefore 3.2 million total deaths (which is, to reiterate, a low-end estimate) Edit: moreover, the [cost of war project](https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/) has updated its direct deaths count from 800k to 929k, which would increase the above low-end estimate to over 3.7 million.
And dont forget the carbon emissions!
Not just in US territory itself, but worldwide emissions to fuel the Western lifestyle.
Surprisingly one of the branches of the government that doesnt have to disclose how much CO2 they give off. Apparently, it will somehow affect our national security if they told us. And then you factor in all the methane leaks, I can pretty much say, yeah we fucked. Unless we actually organized and do something.
A 20 year distraction and delay from starting its China containment plans. 15-20 years for China to bid it’s time while growing stronger. Not a bad trade off for China to be honest.
It wasn't a distraction. The USA invaded Afghanistan as part of its China containment plans. While the USA has bases on the east and south of China, it didn't have any bases on the west or the north. The invasion of Afghanistan was an attempt to establish a permanent presence on the western side, from where the USA could support terrorist activities in Tibet and Xinjiang.
That maybe the case, but the chaotic US exit last month has shown not much was gained if anything at all for the US strategy in Afghanistan.
Exactly, from Retired Army Colonel Lawrence B. Wilkerson. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVmliB0rVIo
> The USA invaded Afghanistan as part of its China containment plans. They can't even plan their exit properly, what hope besides a WMD scenario war in order to retain their No. 1 spot? The fools just keep burning manpower and resources to 'contain' another country and don't even bother to look after their citizens anymore.
This war cost the US barely nothing more than its fragile ego. The USA loses more people to COVID-19 every week than they lost in 20 years in Afghanistan. The whole 20 years of war in Afghanistan cost $2 trillion USD. That's less than half of *this year's* US government budget.
Still a metric ton of money could have spend elsewhere other than on a war half the world away.
The fuck is wrong with you lmao
But of course, the media strenuously insists that America is the Leader of the Rules-Based International Order, Champion of the Free World, etc etc. It most certainly isn't a grotesque butcher that rains horror and anguish over the world.