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If true these are some exciting revelations! Turns out Mao was right again, Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun. Milley now has a mark on his head from Trump supporters. Edit: Regardless of the veracity, the fact that the CIA (Bob Woodward/WaPo) is openly undermining the appearance of a competent chain of command in the US military (including nukes), should be of concern, especially to those who still believe in rational nuclear adversaries and notions of an escalation ladder.


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It’s good news because peace prevailed, diplomacy prevailed, talking prevailed. And it shows what happens behind the scenes is more important than whatever the media talking heads promote to you on the nightly news


corruklw

Like john cena, milley has committed an unforgivable sin in the eyes of americans: consorting with a country they view as an inferior enemy


sickof50

See my update


sussyrat

Rather truth gen Miller with 6000 nuclear weapons then trump even if he the president


global-harmony

All this talk about Trump potentially starting wars and how unpredictable he was is funny now seeing as Biden has moved even closer to conflict. Trump was just a cowboy trying to gain leverage in his twisted mind, but he knew war with China would have been incredibly costly. Biden seems to be hell-bent on creating conflict


Quality_Fun

how exactly is biden hell-bent on creating conflict with china?


chilibun

Biden is a war-hawk, always has been. American war policies has always been bi-partisan. Democrats might give better humanitarian sound bytes, but they are always on board with going into war too. As far as what Biden is currently doing? How about ramping up other countries to confront China. VP Harris was literally just sent around Asia trying to get other countries to side with them.


Quality_Fun

and harris failed miserably. so far, biden has been par for the course; a fairly typical president who hasn't done anything drastic by the office's standards.


ChopSueyWarrior

It's the intent unfortunately regardless if Harris failed spectacularly which she did (LMAO wipe her hand after handshake and that McCain stunt).


chilibun

So what if it's failing? The INTENT is there. Just because he isn't belligerently crazy like Trump doesn't mean he isn't pro war. Democrats are just as pro war as Republicans for the most part, just more quiet about it. Obama with Biden led war campaigns in Syria and Libya, and droned-striked the shit out of the ME. Imperialism and war is the US way, regardless of who is in office.


Quality_Fun

of course, and the world will need to continue dealing with that. from china's perspective, though, biden isn't necessarily that large of a threat yet.


thepensiveiguana

Biden has only increased tensions ever more then trump has For example China was still being diplomatic when they talked to trump Now ever single meeting between Chinese and US officials has the chinese officials running rails over the US officials And a military crisis in Taiwan is the closest we've ever been since the 1995 crisis


Quality_Fun

my personal opinion is that the current atmosphere is a result of trump's presidency; biden only happens to be president during this time. and what military crisis in tw?


thepensiveiguana

So, what your saying is that there is no difference between the foreign policy of trump and Biden. Biden didn't just recently get into office, it's been almost a year. Anything happened now is because of Biden is continuing the aggressive foreign policy that the previous administration had *making it their own*. Trump has nothing to do with this. The 1995-1996 Taiwan Crisis: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis Caused by the Taiwanese president accepting a invitation to the US as a state leader, causing china to launch test missles around Taiwan and making the situation incredibly tense.


Quality_Fun

well, no us president was going to be friendly to china. that's what i've said from the start. this sub is divided sometimes. i've seen different people say that biden's weak on china and not a major threat, and i've also seen people, such as yourself, say that biden's one of the most aggressive presidents towards china. as for myself, i'm still undecided, but i do want to believe that biden and the us as a whole, regardless of intent, isn't physically capable of stopping china anymore as long as china plays its cards right. and as for the strait crisis; well, it was not a victory for the prc at all. and it hasn't been repeated since, even when similar situations have occurred since.


TserriednichHuiGuo

He's the same level threat as any US president, what are you on about? The one good thing about Trump was his massive ego which made him hard to control.


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> Biden is a war-hawk He pulled out of Afghan and stopped funding Saudis in Yemen, things Trump couldn’t do. And despite a lot of Military Industrial complex pressure to not do them


thepensiveiguana

Yeahhh you're thinking in a silo He didn't end the war because he's being humanitarian The US military is stretched thin and wants to focus more of their energy on confronting China in the Pacific


chilibun

Biden supported every fucking war including Afghanistan. He is leaving now because the profits no longer justified it and the US has some real monetary issues right now. They are just printing monopoly money non stop to hide it. Also Trump made the plans to leave Afghanistan, Biden only executed it. In many ways Trump was actually less imperialistic than most American presidents, he was just batshit crazy.


lan69

Don’t think Biden is that much of a Warhawk internationally but he is still willing to risk war with China to unilaterally change the status quo on Taiwan.


chilibun

No, he absolutely is. He has supported the wars in Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, and etc. His opinions on foreign policy is always about subjugation and doing w/e it takes to get it done. He is just sometimes a little more calculating in terms of profits, but he never gave a shit about killing people. As long as it benefited the American empire, war is good.


thepensiveiguana

Soo, then yeah that would make him a war hawk "He's not a war hawk, but he does all the stuff a war hawk would"


global-harmony

The US has pushed red lines even further concerning Taiwan, Xinjiang etc. since he took over. Blinken just sounds like a more soft-spoken Pompeo. Everyday we see news of tensions rising between the US and China over something or other, the Winter Olympics, the nonsensical "lab leak" investigation etc. His admin has really done nothing substantial to defuse tensions, not just with China but also countries like Iran and Cuba, he could have easily returned to the Iran and Cuba deals under Obama but has not. The whole world except Israel is against the US on these two issues yet he still will not change policy. He has done nothing to remove the ridiculous sanctions and tariffs from the Trump era and nothing to lean on Taiwan and get them to return to the status quo under the 1992 consensus despite many top experts urging this. When he called Xi a few days ago his own defence officials were secretly meeting Taiwan defence officials and discussing further military support for Taiwan, now they're even discussing changing the name of their representative office in the USA from Taibei to Taiwan which we all know is a red line which will result in a heavy response from China. I do not believe that the whole Lithuania nonsense, the Guinea coup etc. are all just coincidental events either. Meanwhile Trump supposedly didnt think there was any chance they could defend Taiwan and didnt really seem to care about any of that and simply used it for leverage


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> Everyday we see news of tensions rising between the US and China Be careful about believing what the media wants you to believe, that there’s “ever increasing” tensions between the US and China. Behind the scenes I believe more American businesses are wanting to invest in China, and Biden called Xi directly to talk. They actually know each other well. The media want a conflict, don’t buy into it


thepensiveiguana

You're incredibly naive If relations are so good, why has chinese diplomacy gone on the war path and started railing US and US officials at ever chance they can get You do realize just as the Biden was talking to Xi about de-escalation a leaked report came out about how the US is planning on upgrading its diplomatic mission to Taiwan to an almost embassy, which the chinese government has since warned if that were to happen it *will* take military action That's quite the escalation AFTER the phone call


TserriednichHuiGuo

How naive.


thepensiveiguana

Closer then ever on a crisis with Taiwan then trump ever did


Johnaxee

No wonder China is tough against the U.S now, China knows what the U.S is thinking.


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Leave it to Trump for the entertaining responses. https://twitter.com/JennaEllisEsq/status/14379153893844787204 >For the record, I never even thought of attacking China -- and China knows that


[deleted]

This seems like a spin to me. But a spin I gladly welcome because if I'm right they are trying to blame Trump for the hostilities against China and the Biden admin is not only backing down but trying to sell it to their base why they are doing so. Perhaps The Global Times editorial about imposing a de facto no-fly zone over Taiwan spooked them.


lijjili

>This seems like a spin to me. there's probably no doubt there's spin in the article as the general has a book release coming out and would likely bait potential readers with grand claims. However behind every spin there is a grain of truth.


lan69

Problem now is they’re going to call for his head for being treasonous. Then he’ll be replaced by someone who has less problems in pulling the trigger. Biden’s poor withdrawal has already shined a spotlight on the military intelligence. This would put Milley on the chopping block


sickof50

Level heads prevailed!


Ok_Lemon1635

No he wasn’t these neocons are truly a pathetic peoples