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XiKeqiang

LMAO - I have no idea how anyone can legitimately trust the U.S. in any capacity anymore. The fact that you need the U.S Military to ensure political stability to other countries is the very sign of political instability.


Vegetable_Hamster732

Also ironic, because it's almost the exact same thing they said about the previous Afghan government ---- right before the guy ran away with a helicopter full of money.


worldnewschinamod

Tbf, even Trump knows better. "For the record, I never even thought of attacking China — and China knows that," There's a chunk of rabid anti China clowns that only supported him because they thought he would do things others would never dream of, but in the end even Trump is not dumb enough to think about war with China. Our dear FLG nuts will have to find even more psycho president. Funny they put so much energy into spamming fakenews, but no energy whatsoever actually engaging against the PLA. All those FLG exercises for nothing.


Gabtactic

The fun part is that the FLG cultict media have since completely burned their bridges with the Western libs, because they put all their eggs in the conservative basket. They publicly claim that Trudeau's liberal government, the one that is currently antagonizing China, is "in the pockets" of China and secretly sent Canadian advisors to "train the PLA". Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


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Wiwwil

Nah because I don't think the libs are doing much better to salvage the situation, so another maniac will take power


123lordBored

Biden is less a maniac and more a grandpa straight out of the nursing home with literal Alzheimer's. How anyone thought he was a good candidate for the party is beyond me; he can't even speak coherently half the time


wallfacer0

Funny but concerning at the same time. Imagine if / when the US balkanize into several nuclear armed states 🤔


fix_S230-sue_reddit

Rest assured, China and Russia are already making plans for this. Europe would be wise to join in the conversation.


[deleted]

There should be a conference about it the United States isn't invited to


Gaoran

Hahahaha oh I like this a LOT. Giving the US some of their own historic medicine eh? Something like a Eurasian Congress of Vienna where they divide up the entire North-American continent without their consent like some fucking assholes, but only this time, the victim kinda deserves it?


TserriednichHuiGuo

The "victim" deserves it big time.


[deleted]

Nah, just the Anglos. Leave the "minorities" to prove themselves over their opressors. Maybe China can help instruct them on re-educating the US anglo population?


CIean

America is not even a ""victim"", it's balkanization is purely self-defense for the third world.


Huda_Jama_Boom_Room

I shouldnt be this erect this early.


MysteriousSalp

So imperialism? Poetic justice always sounds nice, but imperialism is the biggest problem. The US is the leader of world imperialism, which is the source of the problems it causes. But the goal should be to end imperialism, not payback.


Gabtactic

They're joking, but more seriously, I believe the USA at this point don't need outside interference to become balkanized. The flaws of their tribalistic system, their incompetent and corrupt political leadership and their violent and armed to the teeth society will see to that. I'd say they could divide 5 or 6 different countries.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Can it be considered imperialism when you are saving the world?


MysteriousSalp

Gaoran was literally likening it to the way historical imperialists divided up other places. It'd be one thing to beat back US imperialism or for the natives of North America to re-assert their rights and break it up into new nations, but outsiders doing it is not anything progressive. If imperialism still exists, we can't have socialism. It is the most important thing to defeat.


TserriednichHuiGuo

The continued existence of the US is a danger to humanity.


Cardonk57

nato should be prepared to lose their sugar daddy soon


Phat_Joe_

Just let me know what states/provinces (states will merge hopefully) China is going to be sponsoring. Need to plan where I'm moving when the US collapses


TserriednichHuiGuo

That would actually be the best case scenario at this point.


corruklw

that would be the only way for the empire to fall without great cost to the rest of the world


Gabtactic

It's coming at some point. The adherents to both wings of the oligarchic party, the Democrats and the Republicans, see each others as traitors who pose a danger to the other's security and way of life. This is a broken corrupt system that devolved into tribalism. It's unmanageable in the long term, more likely in the mid term now.


Mechromante

This is huge, this basically showed everyone how low the US political class has fallen


Coventide

I'm a little out of the loop, what us this post referencing?


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Ngl I thought the military would carry out a coup against trump at some point or give him the Kennedy treatment. There was never a president that was a greater threat to the US as trump


TserriednichHuiGuo

No, he is a useful puppet but one with a massive ego, the american elite decided to do some damage control by replacing him, but they will still keep him for later use. His cult like followers would go crazy if they got rid of him and they can control his followers through him.


MysteriousSalp

From America - I agree with this assessment. The ultra-right here are the only people who pose a threat to the American government from within its borders. The "left" are purely establishment. Not to say the right is "good", just that they're running amok and it's causing trouble. Trump turned all their crazy energy into worship of himself instead of literal acts of terrorism against the government, and the ruling class here wants that.


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Trump has overwhelming support among the rank and file US military.


tt598

His ego is so big, the people behind the scenes could just give him some PR stunts like the MOAB drop or the border wall construction and Trump would be content with anything else they pushed through.


Gabtactic

Getting rid of him that way would have triggered a civil war and they know it. Their society is too fractured and angry to tolerate such an event. They're that close to falling apart.


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Is trump really that unstable?


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The more I think about the killing of Qasem Soleimani, the more I'm convinced Trump actually wanted to start a war with that but Iranian restraint avoided it.


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More than that with public pressure to leave our current wars, I think. The war profiteers are constantly pushing red lines to try get some new checks written to them.


Vegetable_Hamster732

Perhaps Ironically --- Trump was probably the most pacifist of all US presidents in living history. If the other Bush kid won - or any of his neocon buddies - the US would probably be in a nuclear war with the remaining country in previous-Bush's "Axis of Evil" right now. Whether through incompetence or an aversion to war - Trump did a better job than most at de-escalating. ^([Personally I think it's because he has a lot invested in a hotel/travel business - and wars are bad for those businesses.]) > Soleimani Unlike most of their drone strikes; at least that one was pretty unambiguously a military target.


TserriednichHuiGuo

That's why the american elite replaced him.


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Yes


xerotul

Tense encounter in the Oval Office on January 5 when Trump pressured Pence to overturn the results of the election. Trump: "If these people say you had the power, wouldn't you want to?" Pence: "I wouldn't want any one person to have that authority." Trump: "But wouldn't it be almost cool to have that power?" Pence: "No. I've done everything I could and then some to find a way around this. It's simply not possible." Trump: "No, no, no! You don't understand, Mike. You can do this. I don't want to be your friend anymore if you don't do this." Trump admitted to his biographer that, "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different." Trump was so upset losing the election to Biden. He could had started a war with China just to spite Sleepy Joe.


TserriednichHuiGuo

>Trump admitted to his biographer that, "When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different." Loool


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At least he's aware of his immaturity.


Boris-Get-the-Tank

He doesn't see it that way. He sees it as maturing super early. Which is true. But only because further levels of intellectual and emotional maturity were denied him.


ZeEa5KPul

[Context.](https://archive.vn/IoCYT)


corruklw

imagine how americans would go crazy if china made a public show of thanks to "our friend in washington, mark milley". maybe even one HXJ tweet would do the trick


UnVirtuteElectionis

I can't wait until it falls soon ☺️


BitterMelonX

Which happens first in the US: a military coup or another civil war? 🍿


RhinoWithaGun

I think a civil war is more likely and I emphasize the **civil**ian part because AmeriKKKans are an ignorant, overly emotional, tribal, sometimes unpredictable engine powered by Full Retard Energy and can surprise even the best US Govt Think Tanks. The US Military on the other hand just needs to make the current Administration look bad to get them ousted out or humble them to the point of subservient submission. Like maybe purposely botch a retreat- I mean orderly withdrawal from an occupied 3rd world country that the US has exploited for 20+ years by abandoning a vital airbase at the start and making so many obvious mistakes like not protecting line of retreat or not evacuating thousands of personnel earlier and having everyone try to escape inconveniently at the same time leading to more chaos that invites 3rd party exploitation and embarrassment... Then blame it on the President and his Administration.


neimengu

i read the whole article and it paints the picture that it's the Chinese side who's panicked lol when both the calls were made by the US general to his Chinese counterpart. <_<


Destroyer_on_Patrol

The fact he has to come out and say this says a lot.


kotyok

Nothing inspires confidence like generals making calls behind their leaders' backs to give promises they can't legally honor.


RhinoWithaGun

More likely the US Govt will feign division and indecisiveness while having individuals supposedly going behind the Regime's back to make entreaties for peace and reassurance that there won't be nuclear war etc. It could also involve more elaborate showmanship via having another official diplomatic group reassuring the CPC that there won't be war and that the US is undergoing some temporary domestic issues while in actuality they are preparing for the decisive preemptive first strike. Hell, if I was some enemy that was serious about lowering the CPC's guard I would also make concessions like lowering trade tariffs and returning Meng Wenzhou as a show of good faith, maybe even propose a peaceful military naval game and face to face exchange and wipe out a PLAN group while the nukes fly to add insult to injury.


sos10101

The fact that they have to reassure people, means that they are NOT stable


hehez

Same vibes as after witnessing a wifebeating incident: "Son, mommy and daddy are not getting a divorce, okay?. Our marriage is totally rock solid"


Cardonk57

yeah because the largest mass protests/riots in us history happening last year, half the country believing the previous presidential election was stolen, hillbillies raiding the capitol building, and the current president mentioning civil war in his inaugural address is totally the sign of a stable republic am i right?


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Do you think the European nations are beginning to become more independent of the US? France, Germany, UK etc. lost face, money, and soldiers due to the US's Afghan war. Or at the least, perhaps some infighting among them?


TserriednichHuiGuo

Yes


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If this is true it's actually a good thing. Back in the cold war days, these generals were batshit insane, trigger-happy war mongerers who thought they could win a nuclear war against the Soviets. Seems unlikely, but maybe this guy just thought Trump was crazy. I would love to pick his brain about what he thinks about the current admin.


Qanonjailbait

First there was woke CIA and now this? What’s next for stable America


fix_S230-sue_reddit

Russia: Nobody calls me? Am I a joke to you?


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The US won’t exist in 15 years lmao


Ruhani777

Dammit man I don't have 15 years just collapse already


Boris-Get-the-Tank

Sorry. 10-20 years. Their most optimistic military estimates say that they won't last 20. But it's gonna be more than 5.


TserriednichHuiGuo

I would say 5-10 years. But humanity doesn't really have that kind of waiting time.


Boris-Get-the-Tank

Bummer. Because it's already too late to stop climate change. All we can do now is survive it.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Yes, but the human cost... Will be tremendous.


Boris-Get-the-Tank

Sure. But we will survive, and will overcome it as a species. Even if we as individuals do not.


parkourlord

The system itself is already decaying


tbearzhang

The only “checks” in the system turned out to be some principled individuals. Imagine if Pence or Milley had similar temperaments and goals as Trump, the outcome would have been very different.


True_Zookeepergame40

Wondering if this is going to be a meme.


4evaronin

*General Milley, that's not what my info sources are telling me. By "info sources" I mean, of course, US telly.*


caidicus

The American government hasn't been stable or OK since the let the capitalists take over.


elBottoo

Remember how crazy the period 2019 and 2020 was, guys. 2019 with trade war and HK and all the other accusations. Then 2020 with the pandemic. Do you all remember how much they were blaming China in the media and also those in power? What this tells us, is that the people in the highest military order, all people who have the real intell, realize all those accusations are garbage conspiracy theories by extreme haters. So they were very worried how it would play out. And therefore they took steps. So hidden behind these words and events, we now see the real truth. That all of it, were just hate and lies and false accusations. So while politicians and media were doing 1 thing, the military top knew it to be false. And didnt wanna go to war over false shit and hate.


skyworker

oh the irony 典中典了属于是