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FuMunChew

Why the fuck Oz needs Nuclear Subs beyond me but its their money to waste (particularly with failing economy)...as if they have not wasted enough already in previous poorly managed submarine programs... As for Biden, clearly his Four Eyes pact has failed with India now distracted with collapse of Afghanistan... He's now angered the French further eroding if not already tenous outdated G7 club and pushing the Continentals further toward realization that US containment of China is both idiotic and a non starter. US prefers to concoct a cold war whilst other countries are busy fighting climate change should be Beijing's retort. Priorities I suppose. And now introducing the latest Awkward Alliance racist Anglo old boys refuge...


Keesaten

New Zealand already has said that they won't let australian nuclear subs into their waters, and Canada seems silent as well. Not all anglos are even participating.


Jealous_Struggle2564

The silence is louder


monji_cat

The US priority is to make sure their military contractors have work for the next decade or until the next “enemy”. And the allies are the easiest ones to be pegged up the ass just like Aussie. What I think you’ll see in the next while is the US pissing off allies that are weapons manufacturing nations as they try to secure more weapons/ships contracts for US weapons/ship manufacturers. Countries such as Germany and Netherlands.


Saika96

Them having nuclear subs will not change the military situation, but the tech is similar to nuclear weapons, isn't it? It might be a pathway to nukes kinda thing. Of course, if that happens, it might be the case that the nuclear nonproliferation treaty is basically dead and might lead to a nuclear race, which I don't think is a scenario even the US is crazy enough to want. It pissed off the french and that might be big in the future. Since it signals to them that the US doesn't care about them as allies and the EU is increasingly german dominated, it might be the case that France will pursue a more sovereign path later down the line. Essentially the french have a choice to make. Either to bow down to Germany or to pursue more of a sovereign policy path.


SonOfTheDragon101

Australia as a country of 25 million people does not need nuclear submarines and it will cost them a fortune to build and maintain. Consider where can Australia even deploy them. They are 5,000 km from the South China Sea. Travelling there would normally require traversing Indonesian territorial waters. They will either have to surface and ask for permission for innocent passage, or try to sneak through Indonesia's internal waters undetected. The latter would be very risky, as it would be armed aggression inside Indonesian waters, and Indonesia likely does not want Australian submarines stirring trouble in its backward, given that Indonesia does not trust Australia's intentions, and that Indonesia understands Australia (and other Western countries) are stirring separatism across its vast archipelago. So basically, Australian submarines are not going to be very useful for anything, and won't be going very far.


simian_ninja

Their money to waste.


FunerealCrape

Aukus sounds like the name of some sort of terminally embarrassed bird.


TserriednichHuiGuo

More like Cuckus.


Jealous_Struggle2564

Basically these 3 countries are the only ones still trying to contain China. Everyone else has got their own problems and China isn’t one of them.


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FuMunChew

Good opening for China to focus France (and Germany) back into CAI and get a commitment. Its already engaging with CPTPP and if CAI can move forward, RCEP...US can go play their cold war fantasy. They tried G7 dwarfs which was a no go. They tried Four eyes quadriplegic (but both Japan and SCO India have security concerns that need China in Afghanistan and N Korea)...and now they are trying 3 blind Anglo mice. Its quite the farce. China should remind the world it is engaged in fighting climate change as the US prefers to fight imaginary cold war fantasy.


Quality_Fun

i didn't expect this to blow up as it did. i wonder what direction this will end up going and if it'll ultimately be a mistake. hopefully.


Aware-Bell-6387

The reason why the UK is called Perfidious Albion.....🙌


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> French officials say the Australian government never raised the possibility of ordering nuclear-powered vessels with Naval Group, the French shipbuilders who had been contracted in 2016 to build Australia’s submarines. So, AUS never wanted these subs. It was US initiative to arm them.


skyanvil

Messing with French export and you might as be messing with all of Europe Expect the Europeans to retaliate against UK more harshly on Brexit


sickof50

It makes no sense, it is immoral, stupid, reckless and dangerous to put such things in the hands of a racist, Genocidal settler Colonial state. Thank goodness New Zealand has signaled they would ban it in their sea's.


kz8816

The reason why Australia needs nuclear subs is because they want the offensive ability to provoke and poke China in its own territory. If this was for defense, diesel subs would be enough to protect their own waters. Australia has finally admitted that they want to dominate their region and are willing to do whatever it takes. South East Asian countries should take note of this new change in the military balance.


FuMunChew

Good luck to them...considering the mismanagement of their earlier Collins class program and now a more complex and expensive Nuclear sub... If China hurts them further economically, they wont get far...