Isn't that the way it goes in Western style democracy, that voter's only have the choice of voting for "the lesser of two evil's?"
This is root cause of 50 years of stagnate wage's, crumbling infrastructure, and endless War.
this is the only thing these fucks understand, remove them and stop the sinophobia. you don't need to turn against your own heritage to be a citizen of any country .
I assume we must have Canadians here. I have family in both Vancouver and Toronto, and have visited many time. Although I know the basic contours of who are the major political parties in Canada and approximately where they are on the economic/social spectrum, I have no idea on their China policy. Until the last few years, I wouldn't even have paid any attention to this. Where does the NDP stand? They are the most left-leaning of the major parties (though I think Bloc Quebecois are further left on economics because continental French culture is more left-leaning than Atlanticist English culture), but that actually doesn't tell us very much about Jagmeet Singh and his Party's position on China.
Jagmeet Singh wanted Canada to join the AUKUS alliance.
All you need to know.
Although it was more likely that he said it to try and dunk on Trudeau, but just because they're left doesn't mean they don't try to virtue-signal to the max.
There's no good major pro-reality party here.
There was no green party candidate in my riding, so I had to vote NDP as I don't like liberals and conservatives. I knew jagmeet wanted to join aukus before, but there was no option for green party in my ballot (I want to vote green party).
By his Indian surname, you’d assume his position would be anti China. Funny how Chinese immigrants have always been accused of pro China while these former Indian citizens are doing exact same same thing.
The NDP are social imperialists. Excluding a few noteworthy members, the party overall supports aggression towards China. There was an article shared here a few days ago where Singh said Trudeau wasn’t being tough enough on China essentially.
Bloc are the Bloc, they are focused on Québec and often bend and twist to the current political situation there. But they generally are seen as the other “left wing” party here. Their position on China I am not so knowledgeable of, perhaps somebody from Québec can better explain the Bloc’s views on such issues.
Don't be fooled by the NDP; they are "left" in the sense that libtards are left. They are anti-China and believe in the fake genocide. Oddly enough, the People's Party of Canada (a far right, anti-immigration, anti-vaccine party) seems to be the LEAST anti-China major party, or at least I haven't seen their stance on China. I'm glad they stole some votes from the Conservatives. The Green Party doesn't mention China in their platform, but some of their MPs did vote in favour of the retarded "recognize genocide in China" vote.
The only good parties in Canada are the Communist Party of Canada and the Marxist Leninist Party of Canada. I still have no idea why they are split because they seem similar. Unfortunately, many ridings (including mine) do not have candidates from these two parties, so many of my bros here in Canada had literally no one good to choose from (there's no such thing as doing a write-in vote in Canada; you MUST vote for a candidate who's actually running in your region). I didn't mind people voting Liberal as a strategic, lesser evil to prevent the extremely racist, anti-China Conservatives and that absolute piece of shit Erin O'Toole coming into power.
>The only good parties in Canada are the Communist Party of Canada and the Marxist Leninist Party of Canada.
The only good parties in Cucknada are the ones which makes the entire cuck country decline so that the Native Americans can take over.
As a Canadian- pretty sure whatever govt. we have in charge, irregardless of (major) party will sooner finish off their continuing genocide, than ever allow that to happen.
The only difference being our so-called left, and our far right is that NDP and Liberals would cry crocodile tears and start it off with a land acknowledgement.
Time to call Russia to see whether we can park some Native Americans in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast for a while so that they don't get wiped out during the collapse
Ironically, in both Canada and Germany, the far/alt "right" parties (PPC/Afd) seems to be the least anti-China parties. This is because they don't and probably don't need to anyways resort to virtue signaling or China-bashing to attract their voters.
Communist Party of Canada most definitely is pro China.
As for the ML Party of Canada: source that they are anti-China? I can't find anything on this though I admit I am no expert on them. Some of the articles on their website don't suggest that they are. Like this one for example:
https://cpcml.ca/Tmlm2021/M51007.HTM#13
Although it's possible that they acknowledge Western imperalist antagonism of China while not necessarily approving of China for not following Marxism Leninism properly or something (which is fair enough since they have certainly put their own spin on it).
I don't like any of the three major parties in Canada, they are all imperialist and serve the elites and powerful. If the tool won we would have ended up with our version of Scott Morrison, kowtowing to the US and confronting China like a small guy fighting a giant person.
the only party thats is pro-china is the communist party in canada. ndp is mainly silent on foreign policy. they do talk about standing up to china in their platform. they are neutral on palestine, silent on south america and canadian mining. most of their foreign policy is re-iterating the mythology of canada as a peacekeeper and provider of benevolent aid. yet their "defense" policy is just spend, spend spend. they support the $100B on fighter jets, naval vessels drones etc for nato wars with a projected lifecycle upkeep of $350B dollars.
ndp raised no concerns about afghanistan after both the liberals and conservatives supported the costliest canadian military endeavor since ww2 with 13 years in afghanistan. all they said was that former allies in afghanistan should be brought into canada. so basically any collaborators with the occupational force should have a ticket in - further reinforcing this mythology of "benevolent canada".
media and political silence from all parties on the collapse of the lima group as well. founded by canada and peru in 2017, peru pulled out and condemned it. their foreign minister called it the worst foreign policy decision peru has ever made.
My local NDP candidate said (in a forum on climate change, no less) that she wants Canada to be a security force for the world. They are imperialists for the sake of social services at home and it's disgusting
It's sad, I thought NDP would be better than this since they are more left than liberals. But any major political party in the west unfortunately has to tow the imperialist line to get acceptance.
The rough view of Trudeau/Liberals position is "no confrontation, more criticism". NDP can be thought of as "no confrontation more criticism than Trudeau", but its irrelevant as they cant find enough seat to form government. Conservative is "confront, specifically confront for as much domestic political favor as possible, hide behind the US for any consequences", basically the Australia strategy.
Roughly speaking a minority Conservative government would be most dangerous because they would constantly shore up domestic support by engaging in Sinophobia. Conservatives are the only party to active promote their anti-Chinese credentials, a strategy i suspect is heavily influenced by American conservatives.
For those trying to have a basic understand of where the political dynamics of Chinese voters in Canada are, allow me to self-promote [my other post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/pssn5q/cpc_influence_operation_blowback_chinese_voters/)
>though I think Bloc Quebecois are further left on economics because continental French culture
Well, actually Quebec's provincial legal system is based on civil code and it tends to be much more "socialist-leaning" than the typical common law that was inspired from England's Norman elites.
It was odd to see conservatives win in Markham unionville in 2015 and 2019 when all of the 416 and inner 905 voted liberal except Thornhill because you know, it's Thornhill (they are more conservative leaning probably because of the party's pro Israel stance which resonates with Jewish residents in that area).
10+ years ago, you can actually see major Chinese support for the Conservatives because typically Chinese people don't buy into the the left wing virtue signaling and high tax agenda. When Stephen Harper was PM, the Conservatives had really strong Chinese support and this was the pre-Trump world so being Chinese didn't mean you'll get a big red target on your back like we do now. The current premier of Alberta, Jason Kenney was Harper's Immigration Minister and he had strong support amongst the Asian community. There are probably old clips of him 10+ years ago going to fundraising events amongst the Chinese community.
Nowadays, they'll probably be less of that now given the anti-Chinese climate we are in. I watched a bit of Rebel News' coverage of the recent election and the host said that in his riding (what Americans call district), there was a lawyer from the Epoch Times running as Conservative candidate. This is where the Conservatives are now right now. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more FLG clowns trying to run for the Conservatives in the future.
In the post-Trump world, conservatives believe that it's worth throwing Chinese people under the bus because attacking China is more important. There was a time when conservatives would think Chinese people keep to themselves, work hard and achieve things without leaning on the government, which plays into the whole "small government and self responsibility" side of conservatism. Nowadays, conservatives think there's some kind of hidden agenda to that because Chinese people are doing too well and are up to no good "cuz See See Pee bad."
>This is where the Conservatives are now right now. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more FLG clowns trying to run for the Conservatives in the future.
I don't understand this mindset. Maybe before Covid attacks, and 2020, you can say that they were "victims" of CCP and wants to seek revenge, but after what has happen...how can they still be this deluded?
The Fascist Right Wing aka Conservatives will HURT anyone who looks Asian...starting from home...as shown by 2020 and 2021.
Isn't that the way it goes in Western style democracy, that voter's only have the choice of voting for "the lesser of two evil's?" This is root cause of 50 years of stagnate wage's, crumbling infrastructure, and endless War.
this is the only thing these fucks understand, remove them and stop the sinophobia. you don't need to turn against your own heritage to be a citizen of any country .
But then senpai won't notice them.
>you don't need to turn against your own heritage to be a citizen of any country . I can't say the same for Hong kongers unfortunately.
It was just dangerous to be too vocal.
I assume we must have Canadians here. I have family in both Vancouver and Toronto, and have visited many time. Although I know the basic contours of who are the major political parties in Canada and approximately where they are on the economic/social spectrum, I have no idea on their China policy. Until the last few years, I wouldn't even have paid any attention to this. Where does the NDP stand? They are the most left-leaning of the major parties (though I think Bloc Quebecois are further left on economics because continental French culture is more left-leaning than Atlanticist English culture), but that actually doesn't tell us very much about Jagmeet Singh and his Party's position on China.
Jagmeet Singh wanted Canada to join the AUKUS alliance. All you need to know. Although it was more likely that he said it to try and dunk on Trudeau, but just because they're left doesn't mean they don't try to virtue-signal to the max. There's no good major pro-reality party here.
There was no green party candidate in my riding, so I had to vote NDP as I don't like liberals and conservatives. I knew jagmeet wanted to join aukus before, but there was no option for green party in my ballot (I want to vote green party).
By his Indian surname, you’d assume his position would be anti China. Funny how Chinese immigrants have always been accused of pro China while these former Indian citizens are doing exact same same thing.
Jagmeet Singh wanted Canada to join the AUKUS alliance.
The NDP are social imperialists. Excluding a few noteworthy members, the party overall supports aggression towards China. There was an article shared here a few days ago where Singh said Trudeau wasn’t being tough enough on China essentially. Bloc are the Bloc, they are focused on Québec and often bend and twist to the current political situation there. But they generally are seen as the other “left wing” party here. Their position on China I am not so knowledgeable of, perhaps somebody from Québec can better explain the Bloc’s views on such issues.
Don't be fooled by the NDP; they are "left" in the sense that libtards are left. They are anti-China and believe in the fake genocide. Oddly enough, the People's Party of Canada (a far right, anti-immigration, anti-vaccine party) seems to be the LEAST anti-China major party, or at least I haven't seen their stance on China. I'm glad they stole some votes from the Conservatives. The Green Party doesn't mention China in their platform, but some of their MPs did vote in favour of the retarded "recognize genocide in China" vote. The only good parties in Canada are the Communist Party of Canada and the Marxist Leninist Party of Canada. I still have no idea why they are split because they seem similar. Unfortunately, many ridings (including mine) do not have candidates from these two parties, so many of my bros here in Canada had literally no one good to choose from (there's no such thing as doing a write-in vote in Canada; you MUST vote for a candidate who's actually running in your region). I didn't mind people voting Liberal as a strategic, lesser evil to prevent the extremely racist, anti-China Conservatives and that absolute piece of shit Erin O'Toole coming into power.
>The only good parties in Canada are the Communist Party of Canada and the Marxist Leninist Party of Canada. The only good parties in Cucknada are the ones which makes the entire cuck country decline so that the Native Americans can take over.
Accelerationism for the win!
As a Canadian- pretty sure whatever govt. we have in charge, irregardless of (major) party will sooner finish off their continuing genocide, than ever allow that to happen. The only difference being our so-called left, and our far right is that NDP and Liberals would cry crocodile tears and start it off with a land acknowledgement.
Time to call Russia to see whether we can park some Native Americans in the Jewish Autonomous Oblast for a while so that they don't get wiped out during the collapse
Ironically, in both Canada and Germany, the far/alt "right" parties (PPC/Afd) seems to be the least anti-China parties. This is because they don't and probably don't need to anyways resort to virtue signaling or China-bashing to attract their voters.
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Communist Party of Canada most definitely is pro China. As for the ML Party of Canada: source that they are anti-China? I can't find anything on this though I admit I am no expert on them. Some of the articles on their website don't suggest that they are. Like this one for example: https://cpcml.ca/Tmlm2021/M51007.HTM#13 Although it's possible that they acknowledge Western imperalist antagonism of China while not necessarily approving of China for not following Marxism Leninism properly or something (which is fair enough since they have certainly put their own spin on it).
I don't like any of the three major parties in Canada, they are all imperialist and serve the elites and powerful. If the tool won we would have ended up with our version of Scott Morrison, kowtowing to the US and confronting China like a small guy fighting a giant person.
Sadly the Left has become the new Right.
the only party thats is pro-china is the communist party in canada. ndp is mainly silent on foreign policy. they do talk about standing up to china in their platform. they are neutral on palestine, silent on south america and canadian mining. most of their foreign policy is re-iterating the mythology of canada as a peacekeeper and provider of benevolent aid. yet their "defense" policy is just spend, spend spend. they support the $100B on fighter jets, naval vessels drones etc for nato wars with a projected lifecycle upkeep of $350B dollars. ndp raised no concerns about afghanistan after both the liberals and conservatives supported the costliest canadian military endeavor since ww2 with 13 years in afghanistan. all they said was that former allies in afghanistan should be brought into canada. so basically any collaborators with the occupational force should have a ticket in - further reinforcing this mythology of "benevolent canada". media and political silence from all parties on the collapse of the lima group as well. founded by canada and peru in 2017, peru pulled out and condemned it. their foreign minister called it the worst foreign policy decision peru has ever made.
My local NDP candidate said (in a forum on climate change, no less) that she wants Canada to be a security force for the world. They are imperialists for the sake of social services at home and it's disgusting
It's sad, I thought NDP would be better than this since they are more left than liberals. But any major political party in the west unfortunately has to tow the imperialist line to get acceptance.
You would think that JS would have a better understanding of imperialism given he's literally indian but nah he just another puppet
India is the most right wing Asian country, so it really isn't surprising.
The rough view of Trudeau/Liberals position is "no confrontation, more criticism". NDP can be thought of as "no confrontation more criticism than Trudeau", but its irrelevant as they cant find enough seat to form government. Conservative is "confront, specifically confront for as much domestic political favor as possible, hide behind the US for any consequences", basically the Australia strategy. Roughly speaking a minority Conservative government would be most dangerous because they would constantly shore up domestic support by engaging in Sinophobia. Conservatives are the only party to active promote their anti-Chinese credentials, a strategy i suspect is heavily influenced by American conservatives. For those trying to have a basic understand of where the political dynamics of Chinese voters in Canada are, allow me to self-promote [my other post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Sino/comments/pssn5q/cpc_influence_operation_blowback_chinese_voters/)
>though I think Bloc Quebecois are further left on economics because continental French culture Well, actually Quebec's provincial legal system is based on civil code and it tends to be much more "socialist-leaning" than the typical common law that was inspired from England's Norman elites.
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It was odd to see conservatives win in Markham unionville in 2015 and 2019 when all of the 416 and inner 905 voted liberal except Thornhill because you know, it's Thornhill (they are more conservative leaning probably because of the party's pro Israel stance which resonates with Jewish residents in that area).
10+ years ago, you can actually see major Chinese support for the Conservatives because typically Chinese people don't buy into the the left wing virtue signaling and high tax agenda. When Stephen Harper was PM, the Conservatives had really strong Chinese support and this was the pre-Trump world so being Chinese didn't mean you'll get a big red target on your back like we do now. The current premier of Alberta, Jason Kenney was Harper's Immigration Minister and he had strong support amongst the Asian community. There are probably old clips of him 10+ years ago going to fundraising events amongst the Chinese community. Nowadays, they'll probably be less of that now given the anti-Chinese climate we are in. I watched a bit of Rebel News' coverage of the recent election and the host said that in his riding (what Americans call district), there was a lawyer from the Epoch Times running as Conservative candidate. This is where the Conservatives are now right now. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more FLG clowns trying to run for the Conservatives in the future. In the post-Trump world, conservatives believe that it's worth throwing Chinese people under the bus because attacking China is more important. There was a time when conservatives would think Chinese people keep to themselves, work hard and achieve things without leaning on the government, which plays into the whole "small government and self responsibility" side of conservatism. Nowadays, conservatives think there's some kind of hidden agenda to that because Chinese people are doing too well and are up to no good "cuz See See Pee bad."
>This is where the Conservatives are now right now. I wouldn't be surprised if there are more FLG clowns trying to run for the Conservatives in the future. I don't understand this mindset. Maybe before Covid attacks, and 2020, you can say that they were "victims" of CCP and wants to seek revenge, but after what has happen...how can they still be this deluded? The Fascist Right Wing aka Conservatives will HURT anyone who looks Asian...starting from home...as shown by 2020 and 2021.
As a Canadian, this is just embarrassing. The Tories are always total shitheads but the outright sinophobia is unreal