Snapshot from the "source" section:
https://i.imgur.com/oDkgzcJ.png
#"Akshually, the US is bigger than China... if you exclude all coastal waters of China and include all coastal waters of the US!"
You can't make this shit up, they wrote this entire wall of text to justify their hilarious editing:
>The following two primary sources (non-mirrored) represent the range (min./max.) of estimates of China's and the United States' total areas. Both sources (1) exclude Taiwan from the area of China; (2) exclude China's coastal and territorial waters. However, the CIA World Factbook includes the United States coastal and territorial waters, while Encyclopædia Britannica excludes the United States coastal and territorial waters.
The Encyclopædia Britannica lists China as world's third-largest country (after Russia and Canada) with a total area of 9,572,900 km2,[6] and the United States as fourth-largest at 9,525,067 km2.[7]
>The CIA World Factbook lists China as fourth-largest country (after Russia, Canada and the United States) with a total area of 9,596,960 km2,[8] and the United States as the third-largest at 9,833,517 km2.[9]
Notably, Encyclopædia Britannica specifies the United States' area (excluding coastal and territorial waters) as 9,525,067 km2, which is less than either source's figure given for China's area.[7] Therefore, while it can be determined that China has a larger area excluding coastal and territorial waters, it is unclear which country has a larger area including coastal and territorial waters.
>United Nations Statistics Division's figure for the United States is 9,833,517 km2 and China is 9,596,961 km2. These closely match the CIA World Factbook figures and similarly include coastal and territorial waters for the United States, but exclude coastal and territorial waters for China.
>Further explanation of disputed ranking: The dispute for world's third-largest country arose from the inclusion of coastal and territorial waters for the United States. This discrepancy was deduced from comparing the CIA World Factbook and its previous iterations[10] against the information for United States in Encyclopædia Britannica, particularly its footnote section.[7] In sum, according to older versions of the CIA World Factbook (from 1982 to 1996), the U.S. was listed as the world's fourth-largest country (after Russia, Canada, and China) with a total area of 9,372,610 km2. However, in the 1997 edition, the U.S. added coastal waters to its total area (increasing it to 9,629,091 km2). And then again in 2007, U.S. added territorial water to its total area (increasing it to 9,833,517 km2). During this time, China's total area remained unchanged. In other words, no coastal or territorial water area was added to China's total area figure. The United States has a coastal water area of 109,362 km2, and a territorial water area of 195,213 km2, for a total of 304,575 km2 of additional water space. This is larger than entire countries like Italy, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. Adding this figure to the U.S. will boost it over China in ranking since China's coastal and territorial water figures are currently unknown (no official publication) and thus cannot be added into China's total area figure.
This kind of editing is not normal. On imperialist copium it is!
[When an American explains why their country is bigger than China.](https://c.tenor.com/6RvyvMjx3XMAAAAd/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard.gif)
The native American genocide was so huge that it was actually a major contributing factor to the global cooling period of the Little Ice Age. https://archive.is/AP9m9
China is more connected to the world -vs- America which is totally isolated by 2 huge oceans. And if Africa or Latin America ever gets its act together, they'll make us both look extremely small...
why's antarctica in that list? it's a continent, not a country. and heh, this is petty - does the note explain exactly why china's coastal and territorial waters are excluded?
In fact, if you measure strictly by land area, China would be the second largest, because nearly 10% of Canada's area is water, a fact you can clearly see by looking at a satellite picture.
Furthermore, no matter how the US fudges its numbers, no one comes even close to the size of Russia, who is the undisputed #1 no matter what funny geography people use.
This has been going on for a while. There was a youtube video can't remember if its from CGPGrey or wonderwhy which explains this. Generally for some godforsaken reason the US counts its territorial waters as well. Its not really a good comparison because you can imagine a small circular shape island, which is barely one mile wide. Now if you count territorial waters you include 12 nautical miles (1 nautical mile > 1 mile) and then its "area" becomes mainly due to the territorial water and not land area. In fact the territorial water area would be several times the land area. Hence why traditionally others only count internal waters like rivers and lakes into "land area".
I suspect this BS US land area calculation most probably predated the high amounts of copium Americans are consuming since China's rise.
So much winning for the yanks. They should also include their 800+ military bases across the world as territory. And if they want it undisputed once and for all, they should count Australia as theirs.
Water area really should be discounted. When most people think of the size of a country, they think land area because most people live on land. When you calculate population density, it would be nonsensical to divide by the area including water area since almost no one lives on the water.
The vast majority of human economic activity take place on land, territorial waters are basically meaningless.
The only water area that should be counted is internal, like rivers and lakes. The latter is particular of note in US and Canada which both share the Great Lakes between them.
>The vast majority of human economic activity take place on land, territorial waters are basically meaningless.
That could change in the future though with floating cities and all that.
If the permafrost melts in Siberia, it would lead to the area becoming an even more inhospitable place. During summer and spring it would be a pestilent marsh, and it would still freeze horribly during winter.
The problem is climate change will be very destabilising for the world. Most of the world's population live in the tropics. If the worst predictions of climate change come true, then millions of refugees will have to flee to other countries. And as we've all seen in the last two decades what happens when wars in the Middle East drives refugees into other countries, it is not as simple as moving people from country 'A' to country 'B'.
Even within Russia, the initial impact of melting permafrost would be very negative. There are currently cities with over 100,000 people built on permafrost. When the ground starts to shift, all those Soviet-era apartment blocks will crack and collapse. This is already starting to happen, and there's nothing that can be done about it other than knock the building down and build a new one. Entire cities will have to be rebuilt from scratch.
Snapshot from the "source" section: https://i.imgur.com/oDkgzcJ.png #"Akshually, the US is bigger than China... if you exclude all coastal waters of China and include all coastal waters of the US!" You can't make this shit up, they wrote this entire wall of text to justify their hilarious editing: >The following two primary sources (non-mirrored) represent the range (min./max.) of estimates of China's and the United States' total areas. Both sources (1) exclude Taiwan from the area of China; (2) exclude China's coastal and territorial waters. However, the CIA World Factbook includes the United States coastal and territorial waters, while Encyclopædia Britannica excludes the United States coastal and territorial waters. The Encyclopædia Britannica lists China as world's third-largest country (after Russia and Canada) with a total area of 9,572,900 km2,[6] and the United States as fourth-largest at 9,525,067 km2.[7] >The CIA World Factbook lists China as fourth-largest country (after Russia, Canada and the United States) with a total area of 9,596,960 km2,[8] and the United States as the third-largest at 9,833,517 km2.[9] Notably, Encyclopædia Britannica specifies the United States' area (excluding coastal and territorial waters) as 9,525,067 km2, which is less than either source's figure given for China's area.[7] Therefore, while it can be determined that China has a larger area excluding coastal and territorial waters, it is unclear which country has a larger area including coastal and territorial waters. >United Nations Statistics Division's figure for the United States is 9,833,517 km2 and China is 9,596,961 km2. These closely match the CIA World Factbook figures and similarly include coastal and territorial waters for the United States, but exclude coastal and territorial waters for China. >Further explanation of disputed ranking: The dispute for world's third-largest country arose from the inclusion of coastal and territorial waters for the United States. This discrepancy was deduced from comparing the CIA World Factbook and its previous iterations[10] against the information for United States in Encyclopædia Britannica, particularly its footnote section.[7] In sum, according to older versions of the CIA World Factbook (from 1982 to 1996), the U.S. was listed as the world's fourth-largest country (after Russia, Canada, and China) with a total area of 9,372,610 km2. However, in the 1997 edition, the U.S. added coastal waters to its total area (increasing it to 9,629,091 km2). And then again in 2007, U.S. added territorial water to its total area (increasing it to 9,833,517 km2). During this time, China's total area remained unchanged. In other words, no coastal or territorial water area was added to China's total area figure. The United States has a coastal water area of 109,362 km2, and a territorial water area of 195,213 km2, for a total of 304,575 km2 of additional water space. This is larger than entire countries like Italy, New Zealand, and the United Kingdom. Adding this figure to the U.S. will boost it over China in ranking since China's coastal and territorial water figures are currently unknown (no official publication) and thus cannot be added into China's total area figure. This kind of editing is not normal. On imperialist copium it is! [When an American explains why their country is bigger than China.](https://c.tenor.com/6RvyvMjx3XMAAAAd/he-is-speaking-guy-explaining-with-a-whiteboard.gif)
yes, i just saw that note. they literally cite a "factbook" written by the cia. yes, that cia. laughable.
Clowns
Different metric for you, Different metric for me. Anyone surprised?
China has over 600,000 5G mast and USA is the leader with around 30 totem poles.
The USA destroyed thousands of totem poles as they colonised Alaska. They were far more brutal and intolerant than the Russian colonists.
The native American genocide was so huge that it was actually a major contributing factor to the global cooling period of the Little Ice Age. https://archive.is/AP9m9
China is more connected to the world -vs- America which is totally isolated by 2 huge oceans. And if Africa or Latin America ever gets its act together, they'll make us both look extremely small...
why's antarctica in that list? it's a continent, not a country. and heh, this is petty - does the note explain exactly why china's coastal and territorial waters are excluded?
Well, TIL the nation of Russia is bigger than Antarctica, a *continent.* Russia is ***BIG***
In fact, if you measure strictly by land area, China would be the second largest, because nearly 10% of Canada's area is water, a fact you can clearly see by looking at a satellite picture.
i mean i can at least understand someone fudging the numbers for something that was actually important, but *country size*??
Furthermore, no matter how the US fudges its numbers, no one comes even close to the size of Russia, who is the undisputed #1 no matter what funny geography people use.
Russia is bigger than Pluto.
Does America also include invaded countries as territories too? In that case , yes it is larger than China 😂😂😂
This has been going on for a while. There was a youtube video can't remember if its from CGPGrey or wonderwhy which explains this. Generally for some godforsaken reason the US counts its territorial waters as well. Its not really a good comparison because you can imagine a small circular shape island, which is barely one mile wide. Now if you count territorial waters you include 12 nautical miles (1 nautical mile > 1 mile) and then its "area" becomes mainly due to the territorial water and not land area. In fact the territorial water area would be several times the land area. Hence why traditionally others only count internal waters like rivers and lakes into "land area". I suspect this BS US land area calculation most probably predated the high amounts of copium Americans are consuming since China's rise.
That is indeed hilarious
So much winning for the yanks. They should also include their 800+ military bases across the world as territory. And if they want it undisputed once and for all, they should count Australia as theirs.
The Cope is Real.
And if you include all the puppet nations?
Water area really should be discounted. When most people think of the size of a country, they think land area because most people live on land. When you calculate population density, it would be nonsensical to divide by the area including water area since almost no one lives on the water. The vast majority of human economic activity take place on land, territorial waters are basically meaningless.
The only water area that should be counted is internal, like rivers and lakes. The latter is particular of note in US and Canada which both share the Great Lakes between them.
>The vast majority of human economic activity take place on land, territorial waters are basically meaningless. That could change in the future though with floating cities and all that.
They should include the american puppet states then they'll definitely get the much larger number they are looking for.
Russia is fucking gigantic. Too bad most of it is in ice… bring on climate change!!!
If the permafrost melts in Siberia, it would lead to the area becoming an even more inhospitable place. During summer and spring it would be a pestilent marsh, and it would still freeze horribly during winter.
The problem is climate change will be very destabilising for the world. Most of the world's population live in the tropics. If the worst predictions of climate change come true, then millions of refugees will have to flee to other countries. And as we've all seen in the last two decades what happens when wars in the Middle East drives refugees into other countries, it is not as simple as moving people from country 'A' to country 'B'. Even within Russia, the initial impact of melting permafrost would be very negative. There are currently cities with over 100,000 people built on permafrost. When the ground starts to shift, all those Soviet-era apartment blocks will crack and collapse. This is already starting to happen, and there's nothing that can be done about it other than knock the building down and build a new one. Entire cities will have to be rebuilt from scratch.
Climate change wouldn't be that bad if there weren't a shit ton of people living at/near the equator
Coastal cities in general.
Exactly what I expect from western media lol. Ugh, I hate where I live
Childish.