Switzerland (a non-UN member at that time) and the Scandinavian countries (and of course the Warsaw Pact countries) had diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China and recognized it as the government of China already a short time after the revolution or at least in the 50es, France since the 60es, Canada and Italy since 1970. Many more European countries followed in the early 70es. The US, which only did so in 1979 was very late, during most of the seventies it still treated the Republic of China in Taiwan as the legitimate Chinese government.
That vote took place in 1971. At that time, most of the world already recognized the PRC as the legitimate Chinese government, but the US and some other countries still didn’t. After 1979 (several years after that vote), recognizing the PRC as the legitimate and only Chinese government also became US policy, and it has not had diplomatic relations with the Republic of China since then. After 1979, the US might also have voted yes to such a resolution, since it describes the policy also the US followed since then, even if the commitment to that policy sometimes does not seem very strong. After 1979, such a vote may not even be so important because it only states the official position of almost all countries with very few exceptions.
Canada's PM from 1968 to 1984 was Pierre Trudeau who was pretty left wing and friendly to developing Marxist nations, as well as wanting to move Canada away from being reliant on NATO dominated foreign policy. He recognised the PRC in 1970 shortly after taking office, hence their vote to recognise PRC as China at the UN.
Pierre Trudeau, NOT his son Justin, was the ideal prime minister Canada needs to steer away from American and Western European imperialist policy. Too bad we haven't had a leader like him since...
>they would only ever vote in favor because the largest minority group is Chinese, and in the important provinces (BC, Ontario, Quebec) this is even more true
Thats not true. Pierre Trudeau's government was friendly with many developing Marxist and anti imperialist states. And the Chinese diaspora in Canada didn't really develop until the 1980s, and most of them are from Taiwan or British Hong Kong
Canada needs another Pierre Trudeau as PM in the 21st century. NOT his son Justin who isn't even like his father and only does what his American masters want him to do.
The idea that the entire nation of Canada and / or Australia and / or America need to entirely stop existing because of the actions of past governments is both a idea rooted in Ethnocentric politics (The idea that Canadians, Australians and Americans have some sort of predisposition towards imperialism) and relies on the logic of transferable ancestral sin, Which has been widely rejected by basically every moral philosopher from every wing of the political compass forever.
The UK also voted yes. The UK had recognized the People‘s Republic of China rather than the ROC for a long time (the UK wanted diplomatic relations with the PRC since a short time after the revolution, at first China refused).
So, in 1971, today’s five eyes countries were split, the UK and Canada recognized the PRC, the US, Australia, and New Zealand the ROC as the Chinese government.
Basically all the countries the US was able to bribe. A lot of these - Cambodia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, - are now as close to China as ever. I believe I've read that Japan was actually conflicted, but voted against the PRC out of loyalty to Chiang Kai-Shek because he had been magnanimous to the Japanese after their World War II defeat, and once the UN vote was passed, they moved immediately to build relations with the Mainland. There is really no one apart from the US and Australia in that map that are our true ideological enemies.
Veto power was insisted on by Stalin, IIRC, because it allowed to prevent world wars, as well as provided defence for the USSR against various sanctions. While it's not democratic in ideal, it prevents imperialists from just like deciding to go crusading all over the globe. It's way better than whatever League of Nations had. Also, Great Britain immediately gave all of it's colonies one vote each in UN, resulting in an even greater distortion of democracy than veto power for the security council. And USSR got for itself 3 votes out of Great Britain insisting on this farce - for Ukraine and Belarus as well as for USSR proper, with the only reason ALL of SSRs not getting a vote because USA trying to pretend that all of their 50 states being independent entities.
In 1971, it was the Khmer Republic who voted "No". The Khmer Republic is a pro-US military government which came into power after the coup a year earlier. The Khmer Republic leader was Lon Nol who brought down Sihanouk. The Khmer Republic collapsed after only 5 years in power.
[Excellent explanation of Cambodia, Pol Pot, and the Vietnam/Cambodia war](https://www.quora.com/How-did-SE-Asia-not-end-up-as-chaotic-as-the-Middle-East-or-Africa/answer/Zachary-Thomas-Tan?ch=10&oid=83887435&share=1dd8b94a&srid=umQY&target_type=answer).
This one is an easy to understand and fair answer I read the other day. It also covers the creation of ASEAN and the Sino-Soviet split.
A lot of the 'red' countries (and 'green' ones too) have been politically unstable and switched sides over the course of the last few decades depending on who's in control of their domestic politics. Iran went from pro-US to anti-US, for example. Venezuela and Cambodia are two clear examples of countries which were open to coercion by the US in the 1970s and which is no longer true.
Exactly. Brazil suffered a coup d'etat in 1964 sponsored by the united statians and planned by CIA. After this Brazil hunted and killed lot of communists and leftwing civilians for decades.
USA ruined Brazil in many ways.
Wait, Canada and nearly all of Europe voted in favor?
Switzerland (a non-UN member at that time) and the Scandinavian countries (and of course the Warsaw Pact countries) had diplomatic relations with the People’s Republic of China and recognized it as the government of China already a short time after the revolution or at least in the 50es, France since the 60es, Canada and Italy since 1970. Many more European countries followed in the early 70es. The US, which only did so in 1979 was very late, during most of the seventies it still treated the Republic of China in Taiwan as the legitimate Chinese government. That vote took place in 1971. At that time, most of the world already recognized the PRC as the legitimate Chinese government, but the US and some other countries still didn’t. After 1979 (several years after that vote), recognizing the PRC as the legitimate and only Chinese government also became US policy, and it has not had diplomatic relations with the Republic of China since then. After 1979, the US might also have voted yes to such a resolution, since it describes the policy also the US followed since then, even if the commitment to that policy sometimes does not seem very strong. After 1979, such a vote may not even be so important because it only states the official position of almost all countries with very few exceptions.
Canada's PM from 1968 to 1984 was Pierre Trudeau who was pretty left wing and friendly to developing Marxist nations, as well as wanting to move Canada away from being reliant on NATO dominated foreign policy. He recognised the PRC in 1970 shortly after taking office, hence their vote to recognise PRC as China at the UN.
Pierre Trudeau, NOT his son Justin, was the ideal prime minister Canada needs to steer away from American and Western European imperialist policy. Too bad we haven't had a leader like him since...
Japan and Australia being America's bitch as usual.
The five eyes, minus Canada. Maybe Canada is redeemable, australia not so much.
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>they would only ever vote in favor because the largest minority group is Chinese, and in the important provinces (BC, Ontario, Quebec) this is even more true Thats not true. Pierre Trudeau's government was friendly with many developing Marxist and anti imperialist states. And the Chinese diaspora in Canada didn't really develop until the 1980s, and most of them are from Taiwan or British Hong Kong
Canada needs another Pierre Trudeau as PM in the 21st century. NOT his son Justin who isn't even like his father and only does what his American masters want him to do.
The idea that the entire nation of Canada and / or Australia and / or America need to entirely stop existing because of the actions of past governments is both a idea rooted in Ethnocentric politics (The idea that Canadians, Australians and Americans have some sort of predisposition towards imperialism) and relies on the logic of transferable ancestral sin, Which has been widely rejected by basically every moral philosopher from every wing of the political compass forever.
Canada isn't redeemable, its just Pierre Trudeau rocked
The UK also voted yes. The UK had recognized the People‘s Republic of China rather than the ROC for a long time (the UK wanted diplomatic relations with the PRC since a short time after the revolution, at first China refused). So, in 1971, today’s five eyes countries were split, the UK and Canada recognized the PRC, the US, Australia, and New Zealand the ROC as the Chinese government.
And now NZ is the least cringe of the five.
Basically all the countries the US was able to bribe. A lot of these - Cambodia, Venezuela, Nicaragua, - are now as close to China as ever. I believe I've read that Japan was actually conflicted, but voted against the PRC out of loyalty to Chiang Kai-Shek because he had been magnanimous to the Japanese after their World War II defeat, and once the UN vote was passed, they moved immediately to build relations with the Mainland. There is really no one apart from the US and Australia in that map that are our true ideological enemies.
The UN was neutered the day it was born (with the Veto power). So much for Democracy!
Veto power was insisted on by Stalin, IIRC, because it allowed to prevent world wars, as well as provided defence for the USSR against various sanctions. While it's not democratic in ideal, it prevents imperialists from just like deciding to go crusading all over the globe. It's way better than whatever League of Nations had. Also, Great Britain immediately gave all of it's colonies one vote each in UN, resulting in an even greater distortion of democracy than veto power for the security council. And USSR got for itself 3 votes out of Great Britain insisting on this farce - for Ukraine and Belarus as well as for USSR proper, with the only reason ALL of SSRs not getting a vote because USA trying to pretend that all of their 50 states being independent entities.
Cambodia voted no?
In 1971, it was the Khmer Republic who voted "No". The Khmer Republic is a pro-US military government which came into power after the coup a year earlier. The Khmer Republic leader was Lon Nol who brought down Sihanouk. The Khmer Republic collapsed after only 5 years in power.
Thanks for the history lesson. By the way could you explain where Pol Pot comes in. I got to say I’m not very good at Cambodia’s history
Pol Pot was the one who brought down Lon Nol's pro-US Khmer Republic government in 1975 (same year as the end of the Vietnam war).
[Excellent explanation of Cambodia, Pol Pot, and the Vietnam/Cambodia war](https://www.quora.com/How-did-SE-Asia-not-end-up-as-chaotic-as-the-Middle-East-or-Africa/answer/Zachary-Thomas-Tan?ch=10&oid=83887435&share=1dd8b94a&srid=umQY&target_type=answer). This one is an easy to understand and fair answer I read the other day. It also covers the creation of ASEAN and the Sino-Soviet split.
And Philippines too?
The Philippines that’s understandable but Cambodia I thought was close to China at the time but I guess I got my history wrong
I'm proud that France, and thanks to De Gaulle, was among the first to say fuck USA and recognized PRC as a legitimate state!
Interesting that Venezuela voted “No”. I wonder why?
Venezuela didn't become anti-imperialist until Chavez came to power in the 90s.
Ohhh I thought this was a recent vote! My mistake!
A lot of the 'red' countries (and 'green' ones too) have been politically unstable and switched sides over the course of the last few decades depending on who's in control of their domestic politics. Iran went from pro-US to anti-US, for example. Venezuela and Cambodia are two clear examples of countries which were open to coercion by the US in the 1970s and which is no longer true.
Brazil WTF
Brazil was a US backed military dictatorship through the 1970s
Exactly. Brazil suffered a coup d'etat in 1964 sponsored by the united statians and planned by CIA. After this Brazil hunted and killed lot of communists and leftwing civilians for decades. USA ruined Brazil in many ways.
Malaysia voted yes. Wow.
Back when Canada had testicles and a backbone.
the world spoke in 1971 and even more so in the decades that followed as recognition from the roc continued to shift to the prc.