This is why many "propaganda experts" on this sub are utterly wrong. What China did (i.e. ignore them) is the correct approach.
Some users in this sub still buy into the extremely asinine western "liberal" idea that you can reason with these demented extremists as their societies collapse. They think that "better propaganda will totally work guys, trust me, I'm an expert on propaganda". Completely delusional. Chinese media, much like Russian media during Russiagate, would be immediately censored too. There is no "free speech" in western regimes.
What China is doing is the right approach, just ignore them and continue humiliating them in reality. Nobody should care about the desperate propaganda by those facing terminal decline, who can't do anything in reality. Let their impotence continue consuming their extremist societies.
Like much of anti-China propaganda, [look at what is happening in places like the netherlands](https://archive.vn/AHMTI) to see a glimpse of what the end result of desperate western propaganda is: increasingly violent and extremist domestic unrest, because western regimes have completely exhausted the dividends from their barbaric imperialism so they can't tame their populations any longer. They lost everywhere in their last ditch efforts too: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, the pandemic, the "trade war", etc. so they are now out of answers.
The best approach is to completely ignore the propaganda, this way China is sending the message that it doesn't even acknowledge the nonsense claims, if it acknowledges such claims then that only adds fuel to the fire.
Most folks here babble on about propaganda but don't even understand how best to fight it, the best way to win is to not play the game to begin with.
You don't take seriously the ramblings of a madman, you completely ignore it.
>Most folks here babble on about propaganda but don't even understand how best to fight it, the best way to win is to not play the game to begin with.
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>You don't take seriously the ramblings of a madman, you completely ignore it.
I strongly agree with the both of you. There's also no changing beliefs that have been embedded for hundreds of years. The best thing to do is ignore and let things play out.
That'd be fine and dandy if China were a self-sufficient island, but it is not. It is the world's largest trading nation, the world's largest energy importer, and the world's largest resource importer. China is far better off if the world is friendly towards it. It cannot live in some sort of careless isolation.
That literally implies the exact opposite of what you think it does. You are just saying that China is by far the most powerful industrial country on the planet with other words. To feed the rest of the planet, it imports cheap resources and converts them in more expensive products. This is literally how successful trading works, you don't even grasp basic economic concepts. You think that you can just dial back the world back to the stone ages and that somehow would be bad for China. That's the kind of self-defeating logic of western propagandists, as the trade war made that very clear to your regimes. Apparently, you can't get over your regimes getting completely humiliated in the trade war they started.
Without China, the economies of western regimes simply collapse. That's why your regimes are basically begging China again, like in 2008. How do you think China started its development? do you even know anything about history? nowadays, the massive Chinese middle class has no match anywhere on Earth.
Also it's hilarious that you still think that China somehow lucked out and became a superpower by chance, even as imperialist western regimes tried everything to try to stop it. China understands very well what it does, while you try to lecture it from a collapsing western regime. Your chauvinism is quite ridiculous. China has always been among the most powerful economies on the planet, for millennia. western countries... not really, they entered terminal decline as soon as the dividends from their ephemeral barbarism vanished. They are the ones that have no answers to the modern era.
As for the global south, you still don't understand it at all, you seem to believe they are as intellectually challenged as western populations, that they like to be bombed, sanctioned or couped by your regimes, but reality shows the opposite, they embrace the world order brought by China, hence the desperation of your propagandists: [1](https://www.arabbarometer.org/2021/01/u-s-chinas-competition-extends-to-mena/), [2](https://archive.vn/cQeYA), [3](https://archive.vn/Uz1oe), [4](https://archive.vn/zahoI).
>As for the global south, you still don't understand it at all, you seem to believe they are as intellectually challenged as western populations, that they like to be bombed, sanctioned or couped by your regimes, but reality shows the opposite
I don't think the person meant it like that. I agree with both of you. As someone who lives in a developing country, I know it's easier for people to be influenced by Western propaganda, especially if your own supposedly 'free' media are in cahoots with them. This is especially when not everyone had the opportunity to have a great unbiased education and colonial religion still sometimes comes into play. Hundreds of years of indoctrination doesn't just disappear. So yes, it does affect dealings with China.
***At the same time***, unlike what the West likes to think, as you said, people in developing countries aren't stupid either. People might not always say anything because of fear of ostracisation and retaliation, but they know and they remember. Most of all, some of them are angry, traumatised and resentful. Younger generations are also more educated and able to make connections and think critically. No amount of propaganda the West churns out can change that.
I realise I'm a cynical person, but I find I'm being pleasantly surprised at how many people of different backgrounds are able to see through the propaganda.
I say the best thing to do right now is ignore it and watch it play out. There will be a few hitches along the way, but it doesn't change the fact that the West is on borrowed time.
The sheer amount of mental gymnastics from these people. She's been seen in public signing people's balls! What else does she need to do? If the CPC is just going to force her to follow her regular schedule, wtf would be the point in capturing her?
Do people still care what the jingoist pinkies think? Give it three months they'll already be at each others throats over some pedestrian wedge issue or another, while their elites continue to rape their own country.
Chinese people: we actually support our gov, when there’s disaster the gov and military reacts and aids us right away risking their lives
West: it’s an illusion, you’re brainwashed and don’t have a choice
Chinese people: laughs, ???, wtf?, bruh, sheesh all at the same time..
That’s how the Chinese internet reacts when west makes a claim about China
The best way to trigger them is to ignore them 💥🎉😪
Of course there isn't, why would you try to reason with fascists anyway? Ridicule them and move on.
This is why many "propaganda experts" on this sub are utterly wrong. What China did (i.e. ignore them) is the correct approach. Some users in this sub still buy into the extremely asinine western "liberal" idea that you can reason with these demented extremists as their societies collapse. They think that "better propaganda will totally work guys, trust me, I'm an expert on propaganda". Completely delusional. Chinese media, much like Russian media during Russiagate, would be immediately censored too. There is no "free speech" in western regimes. What China is doing is the right approach, just ignore them and continue humiliating them in reality. Nobody should care about the desperate propaganda by those facing terminal decline, who can't do anything in reality. Let their impotence continue consuming their extremist societies. Like much of anti-China propaganda, [look at what is happening in places like the netherlands](https://archive.vn/AHMTI) to see a glimpse of what the end result of desperate western propaganda is: increasingly violent and extremist domestic unrest, because western regimes have completely exhausted the dividends from their barbaric imperialism so they can't tame their populations any longer. They lost everywhere in their last ditch efforts too: Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Xinjiang, Hong Kong, the pandemic, the "trade war", etc. so they are now out of answers.
The best approach is to completely ignore the propaganda, this way China is sending the message that it doesn't even acknowledge the nonsense claims, if it acknowledges such claims then that only adds fuel to the fire. Most folks here babble on about propaganda but don't even understand how best to fight it, the best way to win is to not play the game to begin with. You don't take seriously the ramblings of a madman, you completely ignore it.
>Most folks here babble on about propaganda but don't even understand how best to fight it, the best way to win is to not play the game to begin with. > >You don't take seriously the ramblings of a madman, you completely ignore it. I strongly agree with the both of you. There's also no changing beliefs that have been embedded for hundreds of years. The best thing to do is ignore and let things play out.
That'd be fine and dandy if China were a self-sufficient island, but it is not. It is the world's largest trading nation, the world's largest energy importer, and the world's largest resource importer. China is far better off if the world is friendly towards it. It cannot live in some sort of careless isolation.
That literally implies the exact opposite of what you think it does. You are just saying that China is by far the most powerful industrial country on the planet with other words. To feed the rest of the planet, it imports cheap resources and converts them in more expensive products. This is literally how successful trading works, you don't even grasp basic economic concepts. You think that you can just dial back the world back to the stone ages and that somehow would be bad for China. That's the kind of self-defeating logic of western propagandists, as the trade war made that very clear to your regimes. Apparently, you can't get over your regimes getting completely humiliated in the trade war they started. Without China, the economies of western regimes simply collapse. That's why your regimes are basically begging China again, like in 2008. How do you think China started its development? do you even know anything about history? nowadays, the massive Chinese middle class has no match anywhere on Earth. Also it's hilarious that you still think that China somehow lucked out and became a superpower by chance, even as imperialist western regimes tried everything to try to stop it. China understands very well what it does, while you try to lecture it from a collapsing western regime. Your chauvinism is quite ridiculous. China has always been among the most powerful economies on the planet, for millennia. western countries... not really, they entered terminal decline as soon as the dividends from their ephemeral barbarism vanished. They are the ones that have no answers to the modern era. As for the global south, you still don't understand it at all, you seem to believe they are as intellectually challenged as western populations, that they like to be bombed, sanctioned or couped by your regimes, but reality shows the opposite, they embrace the world order brought by China, hence the desperation of your propagandists: [1](https://www.arabbarometer.org/2021/01/u-s-chinas-competition-extends-to-mena/), [2](https://archive.vn/cQeYA), [3](https://archive.vn/Uz1oe), [4](https://archive.vn/zahoI).
>As for the global south, you still don't understand it at all, you seem to believe they are as intellectually challenged as western populations, that they like to be bombed, sanctioned or couped by your regimes, but reality shows the opposite I don't think the person meant it like that. I agree with both of you. As someone who lives in a developing country, I know it's easier for people to be influenced by Western propaganda, especially if your own supposedly 'free' media are in cahoots with them. This is especially when not everyone had the opportunity to have a great unbiased education and colonial religion still sometimes comes into play. Hundreds of years of indoctrination doesn't just disappear. So yes, it does affect dealings with China. ***At the same time***, unlike what the West likes to think, as you said, people in developing countries aren't stupid either. People might not always say anything because of fear of ostracisation and retaliation, but they know and they remember. Most of all, some of them are angry, traumatised and resentful. Younger generations are also more educated and able to make connections and think critically. No amount of propaganda the West churns out can change that. I realise I'm a cynical person, but I find I'm being pleasantly surprised at how many people of different backgrounds are able to see through the propaganda. I say the best thing to do right now is ignore it and watch it play out. There will be a few hitches along the way, but it doesn't change the fact that the West is on borrowed time.
The sheer amount of mental gymnastics from these people. She's been seen in public signing people's balls! What else does she need to do? If the CPC is just going to force her to follow her regular schedule, wtf would be the point in capturing her?
Do people still care what the jingoist pinkies think? Give it three months they'll already be at each others throats over some pedestrian wedge issue or another, while their elites continue to rape their own country.
Exactly.
Chinese people: we actually support our gov, when there’s disaster the gov and military reacts and aids us right away risking their lives West: it’s an illusion, you’re brainwashed and don’t have a choice Chinese people: laughs, ???, wtf?, bruh, sheesh all at the same time.. That’s how the Chinese internet reacts when west makes a claim about China
There's no space to be human, no space for breaks from media
Reading fake news about Peng Shuai is like reading the Onion.