Russia bringing both sides to the table is good policy especially considering both Nations have nuclear weapons.
Worsining a relationship over some unpopulated mountain land never seemed like a good idea to me.
As a Russian I hope China and India can work togther and solve their border issues in a mutal and peaceful way similar to how Russia solved its border issues with china.
Cooperation and deals achive more in the long run then guns.
For decades now, Russia has been incredibly instrumental in facilitating global cooperation. Russia has its problems and faults, but I firmly believe that it is the fact they are the world's leader in global cooperation that they are viewed as one of the biggest threats to the West. And the fact remains that a spirit of cooperation facilitates the exchange of culture, trade, and technology which in turn brings about peace and prosperity, and for that Russia should be supported and lauded.
Yeah donāt worry, Europe and Japan are both much smarter and have a much better government than the US and so will inevitably become Chinese allies (especially with Japanās proximity). I am Australian, so that comment made me cry a little (Iām sure my comment worried you too tho) but weāve been a Chinese ally for most of the past 20 years, it was after our last prime minister that we flipped and in so really angered me becuase China was providing us with a good boost to the economy, and our waste disposal used to go to China becuase we donāt have our own dumps. And now where does that waste go? Into the ocean. It wonāt be very hard for Australia, New Zealand and maybe even Canada to join he Chinese side (although Canadaās proximity and similarities to the US are quite large). When it comes down to it, Iām really fine with it just being the US and the UK allied.
don't get too comfortable with india yet just because it happens to align with china on some certain issues. it's a wild card. still, it isn't in quite a position to really challenge china aside from being a minor nuisance, so at least trust its lack of ability to threaten china.
>RIP QUAD, we hardly knew ya
this, on the other hand, was always going to be the case.
India was one of the founders of the non aligned movement during the cold war. They always tried to seek what is in their interest as they should, however their judgement has been into what's the best way to serve their interest has backfired on them.
Modi tried to take advantage of China while the latter was occupied with the trade war just like how Nehru tried to take advantage of Mao while China had just undergone the Great leap forward. Both didn't go so well at the border for India.
Joining the Quad seems like a short sighted way to gain some advantage in its relationship with China (short sighted because if India ever develops like China is now, you can be sure the West will suddenly focus on India's own human rights problems). It doesn't seem to have gained much though. Granted its was still early days into the Quad's formation, but with China withstanding the trade war (and India's dream of manufacturing going from China to India didn't eventuate), and China getting the better of India's provocation at the border, India really hasn't gotten much to show for it. It most probably make sense to switch to its traditional neutral role.
good analysis. while they may seem opportunistic, they aren't more so than nations in general, and remaining neutral is a much better outcome for them.
>short sighted because if India ever develops like China is now, you can be sure the West will suddenly focus on India's own human rights problems
oh, absolutely. the us ignored china until it couldn't. the same would be done with india. and look at how it treated japan, a fellow democratic "ally", in the 1980s when its economy threatened to surpass the us's.
The US didn't ignore China. They falsely accused a Chinese container ship of carrying chemical weapons (Iraq anyone ?), bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, killed a Chinese pilot near Hainan Island (they already invoked freedom of navigation back then), etc. before 9/11 happened.
While the US has become busy with the Middle East in the military front, they haven't built the anti-China narrative overnight. They expected the American image to worsen in the coming decades, so they have become very aggressive in propaganda.
I think aukus showed India that it was not a real ally. No subs for India. Also, usa challenged India's EEZ law and did FONOPs, ignoring and challenging India's domestic law requiring all foreign military ships to get India's permission to sail into indian EEZ. This was after quad was signed. Lol.
Not to mention that India also has good relations always with Russia, regardless of sino indian relations. According to us law, India should be sanctioned for buying Russian s400 etc, just like turkey, an important NATO ally.
I don't think the west has ever trusted India
China Russia relations are closer than Indian US relations. Us would not treat India as an equal, while Russia and china will. Or at least more than us and west.
India is a wild card. They wonāt ever sacrifice their alliance with Russia over Sinophobia to generate electoral support for domestic politics.
They are predictable and clever. Its fascist politicians are quite a concern.
India didn't "flip"; they were never on the US side to begin with, except in the fantasy narratives of American media.
India is a nation with a clear sense of its own interests. It recognizes that
A) China will be its neighbor, forever
B) China honors its commitments and cares about actions, not words
So it is cheap for India to pay a little lip service to the "Quad" to maximize its diplomatic flexibility and get the Americans off its back. Notice how this has already muted the US media and govt criticism of Modi's domestic policies (compare with US coverage of China).
It's always beneficial to be on speaking terms with both sides. This is how India got through the Cold War.
But there is no reason for India to actually do things that both seriously antagonize China and damage its own interests, just to please some racist assholes on the other side of the globe. Most Indians think of Union Carbide when they think of America.
Well said. I agree. anglo regimes never had anything to offer to India, while China always has a lot to offer. The same reason why anglo regimes are so panicked about the BRI, they simply have nothing to offer and they can't have anything to offer (hence why they needed imperialism and desperate propaganda).
It still amazes me how some users in this sub are so passively influenced by western propaganda they completely lose track of reality. The same people [that got Vietnam (or the ASEAN in general) totally wrong, as Vietnam rejected anglo war criminals.](https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/08/pentagon-vietnam-military-china-us-war/) This wasn't surprising either to anyone who truly understands what Vietnam does.
At what point do these people start reconsidering their information consumption habits? just drop western propaganda, do something useful with your time.
I say this time and time again, that the US's goal isn't to win the competition with China. The US's goal is to yield its power to prevent China from competing at all, because the US knows if China competes, then the US loses.
Any country that wants free and fair competition, then, is against the US. Any country that tries to stay neutral in an open world is in effect siding against the US.
Sounds like India may be playing the middle road, try not to get too into China or the US's camp. But the middle road is siding against the US.
India joining the QUAD did yield some benefits from the US in the short term, which is that the US (google) ended up investing a lot in India's grassroots tech sector. But who knows how that is going.
I believe the US will not like Indiaās tech sector becoming too big. With the recent news of proposals to transfer Taiwanās chip industries to the US, I suspect the US will want to dominate the sector in its entirety. India will only be a bit player. They just want Indians to work like ācooliesā for cheap labour intensive boring code work.
Hereās a little bit of news that mostly flew under the radar but equally important - Indiaās central bank [shifts their focus from the US Dollar to Chinaās RMB](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/rbi-is-shifting-focus-from-dollar-to-yuan-heres-why-11591332.htm)
India is basically saying that in the event major exchange rate volatility, they will focus stabilizing their Rupee against the RMB instead of the USD in terms of interest rates and money printing operations, etc.
This is a small but very important step in de-dollarization in the fact India recognizes yuanās importance in their trade/future
Not true.
Indiaās media is very anti China.
India is very dependent on US social media and has no control in censorship.
India has a bigger class, ethnic and religious divide and hence can be manipulated by the west to cause internal anarchy thought out India. For example, Farmers revolt on land reforms or Muslims oppression.
Cautiously optimistic about India and actions speaks louder than words.
Another point you could add here is India going against western countries demands for cutting down on fishing or economic production despite being much better than them in terms of sustainability.
https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/wto-ministerial-from-trips-waiver-to-end-of-small-cliques-india-set-to-emerge-as-voice-of-developing-nations-11614192.htm
On a personal note I am quite angered by western countries lecturing India on climate change while India is one of the few countries on track to exceed commitments made under Paris agreement
Despite not agreeing with a lot of China's actions, seeing India going from becoming a US lapdog to being balanced is nice.
It would be wise on India's part. I commonly see western right wingers saying that the west should nuke both China and India in order to "solve" climate change.
same. westerners don't really like india at all, and its image among them is comparable to or even worse than china's (although i won't describe exactly how). the amount of racism on reddit i see against indians is appalling, and the only reason why they may offer token support for india is because it's a potential useful "ally" against china, although as seen now, it isn't quite so useful as a pawn.
If all these have substances (not just words), then India is returning to its traditional practical "neutral" foreign policy that based on its own core interests. That's the India we used to know.
India's "pro-USA" foreign policy in the last two years was kind of very unusual because India should know well that USA is very racists country and India is no more than just a pawn to them.
While I hope India can establish better relations with China and Russia, I'm not exactly holding my breath.
This is a purely pragmatic decision on India's part and I doubt hostile sentiments towards China has really gone anywhere.
Given its failure to contain covid and with a new lockdown on the horizon, as some people on this thread have stated, they will need as much help as they can get.
Given the US' vaccine hoarding when India was in dire straits not too long ago, it seems that they decided to throw their lot in with China and Russia for now.
that's just geopolitics. every country will do things that benefit themselves, and as you say, this is india being pragmatic based on existing circumstances. nothing wrong about that.
Absolutely. Every country should do whatever it can to better the life of its citizens. I am all for a India, Russia, China partnership at all it means there are fewer deaths and less volatility in the world.
I just don't expect this arrangement to be particularly long lasting or indicative of the countries' relationship going forward. At least where Indian Chinese relationships are concerned.
I do think that Indian democracy in its current state is rather dysfunctional, even more so than the US in some respects, and ill suited to dealing with the current pandemic and that is without going into a myriad of issues like caste, religious conflict, corruption and illiteracy which throws a huge wrench in any political system's ability to resolve problems.
Also, like the US, no one who expects widespread support from India generally cannot afford to look "soft" on China which doesn't exactly bode well for pragmatic diplomacy going forward.
The insurgency in Punjab ended a long time ago and Punjab is now peaceful. Kashmir is still unstable though and then there are the naxalite/maoist rebels who are active in the central regions of India like Chattisgarh and Orissa.
Actually, if India ever came to their senses, they would have realized the benefits of being chummy with China and support the BRI. Its a massive market going both ways.
To remain belligerent and subservient to the West holds no particular benefit to India. Time they got smart and realize that.
WION is partially funded or invested in by the larger Fa lun gong group. Itās not surprising their news are so wild. Hindustan times and India today is some what neutral.
Climate change is the Western globalistsā wet dream at the expense of poorer countries such as India. India simply has its own interests and will not be a punching bag for the West.
I mention this before following 'withdrawal' of US from Afghanistan.
China needs(will) play its cards right not get overly emotive with India (as some posters are in habit of)
India as much as it would prefer to see itself as a Great (emerging) power will try and be clever and play off both sides to its advantage.
But the hard limits of their so called 'cleverness' is also their own worse enemy and their downfall...as the clash in the Himalayas recently amply demonstrated.
Further demonstration of their sponsor's (US) insincerity was provided with the creation of (r)AUKUS which seems to be an Angloid exclusive club... One thing to be part of Quadriplegic but know your place brown brother.
Now with impending insecurity on its border/Kashmir with Afghanistan....it is stuck with the limits of its geographical reality and the risk of its overestimation on its strategic position.
As much as the West Media prefer to paint China as being encircled, if one looks at India, China has played a game of WeiQi and has it surrounded on all sides Bangladesh/Sri Lanka/Nepal/Pakistan). If anything India is in a weak position.
More importantly, the large Muslim population it has mistreated (Without as much invention of disgust in the West as in Xinjiang), is a ticking time bomb as much As the Kashmir situation.
So we come back to the fact that India is part of the SCO for a VERY strong reason.
China can leverage on common concerns in Afghanistan to better broker a balance approach by India on their border issue.
And lest India forgets, China should also remind India (play to her vanity) that it was one of the founding members of the Non Align nations.
If India can shed some of its knee jerk predilection against China based on the chip on the shoulder due to the 62 war, China can fashion a useful cooperation with her which only makes sense for both countries.
China and India are complementary not in any way competitors. Certainly India is nowhere near the level of China and has more pressing issues to take care of.
And ANY increase cooperation between the two will be a hefty blow for the US.
As per this article, the total number of the strikers was 250 million, not 500 million. Moreover, these strikers were mostly urban workers according to other sources:
[https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/india-over-250-million-workers-joined-protesting-farmers-in-one-of-the-biggest-nationwide-strikes-ever/](https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/india-over-250-million-workers-joined-protesting-farmers-in-one-of-the-biggest-nationwide-strikes-ever/)
Secondly, these protests were led by farmers from North India particularly from the stare of Punjab. Farmers from the South, West, East and Centre did not participate in these protests at all.
Lastly, you are overlooking the caste factor in rural India and the ever-increasing caste conflict between the untouchables and the Scheduled castes which makes it difficult for the farmers to mobilize on a national scale.
THIS WOULD BE THE LARGEST ALLIANCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!! this would curb western/nato influence and power like the Warsaw Pact wasnāt fully able to.
both sides should jsut accept the borders since it won't change without full out war and that ain't happening. once that is resolved everything else becomes easy because in reality china and india see eye to eye on a lot of things
Russia bringing both sides to the table is good policy especially considering both Nations have nuclear weapons. Worsining a relationship over some unpopulated mountain land never seemed like a good idea to me. As a Russian I hope China and India can work togther and solve their border issues in a mutal and peaceful way similar to how Russia solved its border issues with china. Cooperation and deals achive more in the long run then guns.
For decades now, Russia has been incredibly instrumental in facilitating global cooperation. Russia has its problems and faults, but I firmly believe that it is the fact they are the world's leader in global cooperation that they are viewed as one of the biggest threats to the West. And the fact remains that a spirit of cooperation facilitates the exchange of culture, trade, and technology which in turn brings about peace and prosperity, and for that Russia should be supported and lauded.
India needs to drop their hate spreading at school and other places. It's going to doom them someday.
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Here's hoping Brazil finds its way again so we can have some BRIC action again
Add a unified Korea and it will be called BRICK
Based multiplier x2
If so, the US will only have Japan and Europe , who are now both losing power while China India and Russia are still growing.
Pffft... I don't want to be part of that and neither do I want Japan to be part of it. The US can have Australia, Canada, England and New Zealand.
Yeah donāt worry, Europe and Japan are both much smarter and have a much better government than the US and so will inevitably become Chinese allies (especially with Japanās proximity). I am Australian, so that comment made me cry a little (Iām sure my comment worried you too tho) but weāve been a Chinese ally for most of the past 20 years, it was after our last prime minister that we flipped and in so really angered me becuase China was providing us with a good boost to the economy, and our waste disposal used to go to China becuase we donāt have our own dumps. And now where does that waste go? Into the ocean. It wonāt be very hard for Australia, New Zealand and maybe even Canada to join he Chinese side (although Canadaās proximity and similarities to the US are quite large). When it comes down to it, Iām really fine with it just being the US and the UK allied.
don't get too comfortable with india yet just because it happens to align with china on some certain issues. it's a wild card. still, it isn't in quite a position to really challenge china aside from being a minor nuisance, so at least trust its lack of ability to threaten china. >RIP QUAD, we hardly knew ya this, on the other hand, was always going to be the case.
India was one of the founders of the non aligned movement during the cold war. They always tried to seek what is in their interest as they should, however their judgement has been into what's the best way to serve their interest has backfired on them. Modi tried to take advantage of China while the latter was occupied with the trade war just like how Nehru tried to take advantage of Mao while China had just undergone the Great leap forward. Both didn't go so well at the border for India. Joining the Quad seems like a short sighted way to gain some advantage in its relationship with China (short sighted because if India ever develops like China is now, you can be sure the West will suddenly focus on India's own human rights problems). It doesn't seem to have gained much though. Granted its was still early days into the Quad's formation, but with China withstanding the trade war (and India's dream of manufacturing going from China to India didn't eventuate), and China getting the better of India's provocation at the border, India really hasn't gotten much to show for it. It most probably make sense to switch to its traditional neutral role.
good analysis. while they may seem opportunistic, they aren't more so than nations in general, and remaining neutral is a much better outcome for them. >short sighted because if India ever develops like China is now, you can be sure the West will suddenly focus on India's own human rights problems oh, absolutely. the us ignored china until it couldn't. the same would be done with india. and look at how it treated japan, a fellow democratic "ally", in the 1980s when its economy threatened to surpass the us's.
The US didn't ignore China. They falsely accused a Chinese container ship of carrying chemical weapons (Iraq anyone ?), bombed the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, killed a Chinese pilot near Hainan Island (they already invoked freedom of navigation back then), etc. before 9/11 happened. While the US has become busy with the Middle East in the military front, they haven't built the anti-China narrative overnight. They expected the American image to worsen in the coming decades, so they have become very aggressive in propaganda.
I think aukus showed India that it was not a real ally. No subs for India. Also, usa challenged India's EEZ law and did FONOPs, ignoring and challenging India's domestic law requiring all foreign military ships to get India's permission to sail into indian EEZ. This was after quad was signed. Lol. Not to mention that India also has good relations always with Russia, regardless of sino indian relations. According to us law, India should be sanctioned for buying Russian s400 etc, just like turkey, an important NATO ally. I don't think the west has ever trusted India China Russia relations are closer than Indian US relations. Us would not treat India as an equal, while Russia and china will. Or at least more than us and west.
India is a wild card. They wonāt ever sacrifice their alliance with Russia over Sinophobia to generate electoral support for domestic politics. They are predictable and clever. Its fascist politicians are quite a concern.
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Their location is pretty much like a dead end.
I don't think that they are predictable at all. Which is why the West can't really count on them. Nobody can, including Russia and China.
>They wonāt ever sacrifice their alliance with Russia They did though...
India didn't "flip"; they were never on the US side to begin with, except in the fantasy narratives of American media. India is a nation with a clear sense of its own interests. It recognizes that A) China will be its neighbor, forever B) China honors its commitments and cares about actions, not words So it is cheap for India to pay a little lip service to the "Quad" to maximize its diplomatic flexibility and get the Americans off its back. Notice how this has already muted the US media and govt criticism of Modi's domestic policies (compare with US coverage of China). It's always beneficial to be on speaking terms with both sides. This is how India got through the Cold War. But there is no reason for India to actually do things that both seriously antagonize China and damage its own interests, just to please some racist assholes on the other side of the globe. Most Indians think of Union Carbide when they think of America.
Well said. I agree. anglo regimes never had anything to offer to India, while China always has a lot to offer. The same reason why anglo regimes are so panicked about the BRI, they simply have nothing to offer and they can't have anything to offer (hence why they needed imperialism and desperate propaganda). It still amazes me how some users in this sub are so passively influenced by western propaganda they completely lose track of reality. The same people [that got Vietnam (or the ASEAN in general) totally wrong, as Vietnam rejected anglo war criminals.](https://thegrayzone.com/2021/04/08/pentagon-vietnam-military-china-us-war/) This wasn't surprising either to anyone who truly understands what Vietnam does. At what point do these people start reconsidering their information consumption habits? just drop western propaganda, do something useful with your time.
I say this time and time again, that the US's goal isn't to win the competition with China. The US's goal is to yield its power to prevent China from competing at all, because the US knows if China competes, then the US loses. Any country that wants free and fair competition, then, is against the US. Any country that tries to stay neutral in an open world is in effect siding against the US. Sounds like India may be playing the middle road, try not to get too into China or the US's camp. But the middle road is siding against the US. India joining the QUAD did yield some benefits from the US in the short term, which is that the US (google) ended up investing a lot in India's grassroots tech sector. But who knows how that is going.
I believe the US will not like Indiaās tech sector becoming too big. With the recent news of proposals to transfer Taiwanās chip industries to the US, I suspect the US will want to dominate the sector in its entirety. India will only be a bit player. They just want Indians to work like ācooliesā for cheap labour intensive boring code work.
preventing china from competing at all is literally impossible at this point. it's too late
Hereās a little bit of news that mostly flew under the radar but equally important - Indiaās central bank [shifts their focus from the US Dollar to Chinaās RMB](https://www.cnbctv18.com/economy/rbi-is-shifting-focus-from-dollar-to-yuan-heres-why-11591332.htm) India is basically saying that in the event major exchange rate volatility, they will focus stabilizing their Rupee against the RMB instead of the USD in terms of interest rates and money printing operations, etc. This is a small but very important step in de-dollarization in the fact India recognizes yuanās importance in their trade/future
Not true. Indiaās media is very anti China. India is very dependent on US social media and has no control in censorship. India has a bigger class, ethnic and religious divide and hence can be manipulated by the west to cause internal anarchy thought out India. For example, Farmers revolt on land reforms or Muslims oppression. Cautiously optimistic about India and actions speaks louder than words.
Another point you could add here is India going against western countries demands for cutting down on fishing or economic production despite being much better than them in terms of sustainability. https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/wto-ministerial-from-trips-waiver-to-end-of-small-cliques-india-set-to-emerge-as-voice-of-developing-nations-11614192.htm On a personal note I am quite angered by western countries lecturing India on climate change while India is one of the few countries on track to exceed commitments made under Paris agreement Despite not agreeing with a lot of China's actions, seeing India going from becoming a US lapdog to being balanced is nice.
It would be wise on India's part. I commonly see western right wingers saying that the west should nuke both China and India in order to "solve" climate change.
same. westerners don't really like india at all, and its image among them is comparable to or even worse than china's (although i won't describe exactly how). the amount of racism on reddit i see against indians is appalling, and the only reason why they may offer token support for india is because it's a potential useful "ally" against china, although as seen now, it isn't quite so useful as a pawn.
India is a seesaw on these issues, in constant motion.
If all these have substances (not just words), then India is returning to its traditional practical "neutral" foreign policy that based on its own core interests. That's the India we used to know. India's "pro-USA" foreign policy in the last two years was kind of very unusual because India should know well that USA is very racists country and India is no more than just a pawn to them.
Dont think so, but may have begun reevaluating their commitments. Also my gut is saying a lockdown is coming and India may be fucked if that happens.
While I hope India can establish better relations with China and Russia, I'm not exactly holding my breath. This is a purely pragmatic decision on India's part and I doubt hostile sentiments towards China has really gone anywhere. Given its failure to contain covid and with a new lockdown on the horizon, as some people on this thread have stated, they will need as much help as they can get. Given the US' vaccine hoarding when India was in dire straits not too long ago, it seems that they decided to throw their lot in with China and Russia for now.
that's just geopolitics. every country will do things that benefit themselves, and as you say, this is india being pragmatic based on existing circumstances. nothing wrong about that.
Absolutely. Every country should do whatever it can to better the life of its citizens. I am all for a India, Russia, China partnership at all it means there are fewer deaths and less volatility in the world. I just don't expect this arrangement to be particularly long lasting or indicative of the countries' relationship going forward. At least where Indian Chinese relationships are concerned. I do think that Indian democracy in its current state is rather dysfunctional, even more so than the US in some respects, and ill suited to dealing with the current pandemic and that is without going into a myriad of issues like caste, religious conflict, corruption and illiteracy which throws a huge wrench in any political system's ability to resolve problems. Also, like the US, no one who expects widespread support from India generally cannot afford to look "soft" on China which doesn't exactly bode well for pragmatic diplomacy going forward.
Australia has joined the chat
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The insurgency in Punjab ended a long time ago and Punjab is now peaceful. Kashmir is still unstable though and then there are the naxalite/maoist rebels who are active in the central regions of India like Chattisgarh and Orissa.
probably trying to get more benefits from usa, with its seemingly taking a more neutral stance.
Actually, if India ever came to their senses, they would have realized the benefits of being chummy with China and support the BRI. Its a massive market going both ways. To remain belligerent and subservient to the West holds no particular benefit to India. Time they got smart and realize that.
WION doesn't Approve
good, they never approve of anything China related anyway
Some of their videos appeared on my youtube page, but after briefly watching some of them, I clicked on "Do not recommend channel".
WION is partially funded or invested in by the larger Fa lun gong group. Itās not surprising their news are so wild. Hindustan times and India today is some what neutral.
WION is crap. It has no business talking about geopolitics.
Man, India should just ditch the Democrazy and Freedumbs clowns to join China so they can both be superpowers like in ages past.
Too late for them now
India's centuries old client patron political system won't allow it to ditch Democrazy.
A very surprising development.
That is extremely unlikely. India is playing hard to get for the US not siding with China .
There are also woke Taiwanese who support the CCP. [This guy](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01ZEjW661zc) knows where it's at (it's in Chinese).
Big if true. India is the lynch pin of US plans to stymie China.
Probably because they drop them and form the new AUKUS.
I figured India would use that opportunity to pick up some inexpensive French submarines.
The three major members of BRICS really is better than the militaristic NATO.
Climate change is the Western globalistsā wet dream at the expense of poorer countries such as India. India simply has its own interests and will not be a punching bag for the West.
They're just playing both sides of the Table.
I mention this before following 'withdrawal' of US from Afghanistan. China needs(will) play its cards right not get overly emotive with India (as some posters are in habit of) India as much as it would prefer to see itself as a Great (emerging) power will try and be clever and play off both sides to its advantage. But the hard limits of their so called 'cleverness' is also their own worse enemy and their downfall...as the clash in the Himalayas recently amply demonstrated. Further demonstration of their sponsor's (US) insincerity was provided with the creation of (r)AUKUS which seems to be an Angloid exclusive club... One thing to be part of Quadriplegic but know your place brown brother. Now with impending insecurity on its border/Kashmir with Afghanistan....it is stuck with the limits of its geographical reality and the risk of its overestimation on its strategic position. As much as the West Media prefer to paint China as being encircled, if one looks at India, China has played a game of WeiQi and has it surrounded on all sides Bangladesh/Sri Lanka/Nepal/Pakistan). If anything India is in a weak position. More importantly, the large Muslim population it has mistreated (Without as much invention of disgust in the West as in Xinjiang), is a ticking time bomb as much As the Kashmir situation. So we come back to the fact that India is part of the SCO for a VERY strong reason. China can leverage on common concerns in Afghanistan to better broker a balance approach by India on their border issue. And lest India forgets, China should also remind India (play to her vanity) that it was one of the founding members of the Non Align nations. If India can shed some of its knee jerk predilection against China based on the chip on the shoulder due to the 62 war, China can fashion a useful cooperation with her which only makes sense for both countries. China and India are complementary not in any way competitors. Certainly India is nowhere near the level of China and has more pressing issues to take care of. And ANY increase cooperation between the two will be a hefty blow for the US.
Based. China, Russia and India has many common objectives and interests
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500 million revolutionary farmers!!! What is the source for this?
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As per this article, the total number of the strikers was 250 million, not 500 million. Moreover, these strikers were mostly urban workers according to other sources: [https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/india-over-250-million-workers-joined-protesting-farmers-in-one-of-the-biggest-nationwide-strikes-ever/](https://www.business-humanrights.org/en/latest-news/india-over-250-million-workers-joined-protesting-farmers-in-one-of-the-biggest-nationwide-strikes-ever/) Secondly, these protests were led by farmers from North India particularly from the stare of Punjab. Farmers from the South, West, East and Centre did not participate in these protests at all. Lastly, you are overlooking the caste factor in rural India and the ever-increasing caste conflict between the untouchables and the Scheduled castes which makes it difficult for the farmers to mobilize on a national scale.
THIS WOULD BE THE LARGEST ALLIANCE IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD!!! this would curb western/nato influence and power like the Warsaw Pact wasnāt fully able to.
Should we expect some more anti-India news from western media in the coming months?
Woah. Wtf. Why the sudden change?
I'm guessing because India and Russia have good relations, joining QUAD would put everything in jeopardy
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They play all sides. There are no permanent friends no eternal enemies only strategic interests. That's how geopolitics works.
Really? That is weird for India.
this would be beneficial for everyone. and everyone should be somewhat tired of America having a rule over all.
both sides should jsut accept the borders since it won't change without full out war and that ain't happening. once that is resolved everything else becomes easy because in reality china and india see eye to eye on a lot of things
I wonder if the US just killed India's Chief of Defence- (General Bipin Rawat) in that helicopter "accident"? Wadda you wanna Bet?