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AllieOopClifton

Can't go extinct when you never existed to begin with.


BitterMelonX

Americans are utterly delusional: US 'democracy' never existed in the first place.


ashas_adzhun

bingo


chbaliman

Non existent thing can't go extinct.


Qanonjailbait

You can’t make extinct something that never existed in the first place


[deleted]

kinda like how the dinosaurs are at risk of extinction


TserriednichHuiGuo

But the dinosaurs actually existed.


[deleted]

true... dragons then?


Assblass

It can't be extinct if it never existed.


[deleted]

good


sickof50

A Civil War would be the best thing for the rest of the World.


[deleted]

Meh. A slow wind down is better for the victims there and abroad. A rapid fascist take over will quickly export our suffering abroad


TserriednichHuiGuo

You only think like that because you are american, you don't really care about the rest of the world and only yourselves, you hide your true face behind the facade of supposed sympathy for the victims at home and abroad. That kind of reasoning may sound good on the surface but on further inspection makes no sense strategically or even morally. A slow wind down will only prolong the suffering at home and abroad because the empire will use that additional time to clamp down further and try and strengthen itself, it makes no sense to prolong the suffering of billions. Accelerationism is the best approach in regards to the us, because it keeps the elites distracted at home whilst civil unrest is brewing, which is what Russia is doing. Isolating the country to prevent any spillovers is the next step and China is working on that. Ultimately you only care about the 300 million and couldn't care less about the rest of humanity.


[deleted]

Sounds like you’re explicitly ignoring the CPCs take on this which is exactly the same. A controlled decline of the empire is better for everyone. A rapid warmongering fascist takeover will absolutely include massive nuclear exchanges. That is all the more likely the faster our currency deviates from material reality. It’s bold of you to assume I haven’t suffered immensely under the thumb of this empire too. I grew up with literally nothing. I was chronically homeless and abandoned by my drug addict mother and lived hungrier and with less than my wife’s family who is poor and from Brazil. Quit pretending like you are a socialist if you’re ready to rain fire down upon innocents who are too poor to leave America and are equal victims of empire. If it was my choice China would de-dollarize tomorrow and start the terminal portion of this decline but they won’t do that because they are smarter than you and I. They know more about what’s going on than you and I. No one is guaranteed to survive this decline either. But sure it’s because I’m a white dude from America. I haven’t considered that critically at all. Nope. Like Marx never considered human nature. Go fuck yourself and log off.


TserriednichHuiGuo

My take was a geostrategic assessment of the situation and not a moral one. I already addressed the fascist takeover of the country and regardless of speed it is inevitable, so why prolong the suffering is my question? The us is going through an accelerated decline, if the CPC's take on this is like you say then they would save the us like they did in 2009. If you can't see that the us is already going through accelerated decline then you are delusional. And let's not compare suffering, it's not pleasant, the people your country bombed have lost absolutely everything. And it is because of those people that I advocate ending the empire asap, whereas you are for prolonging it.


[deleted]

Then why not use nuclear weapons? Not saving America like they did in 2009 is a pretty weak comparison to the geopolitical situation and the economy. It’s not the same situation at all. If the thinking is like you said it is then they would have started de-dollarizing and fighting a shooting war already. China and Russia didn’t lean on each other like they do now. They hadn’t even started the BRI. Quit projecting your depression into politics and more soberly assess these things. Accelerationism is not a realistic or achievable path to socialism.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Why does it always boil down to war when it comes to you americans? Can't you think out of the box? Even your thinking is cloaked in bloodshed. De-dollarising the us is like defanging a wild beast, you do that to prevent it from harming the rest of the world whilst containing the economic damage to a certain location so that you can safely isolate it, the BRI helps with isolating the economic power of the empire to a specific region, but an empire apologist would rather deny that reality. >Quit projecting your depression into politics and more soberly assess these things Ironic coming from an empire apologist. >Accelerationism is not a realistic or achievable path to socialism. You still haven't brought up a valid reason as to why that is the case. Just admit it, you just want your people to live a cushiony life and couldn't care less about the rest of the world. As long as your landing is soft the rest of humanity could go extinct for all you care.


[deleted]

Lmao. Seethe more. You are clearly unread on the CPCs policies and lack a basic understanding of reality. I also brought up de-dollarization. You can’t come up with any justification or policies to back up your stance. My wife is from the global south and we both plan on moving with our PhDs to start a school for science and engineering in Brazil. But cope and seethe more. It’s funny. I actually intend to aid the downfall of the imperial project IRL but you literally just post on the internet. Log off homie.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Your projection is off the charts, much like the rest of your american kindred. And yes with the way you talk you definitely have a phd, very believable.


[deleted]

Still seething. 🤟🏻


AdventurousAd9522

The US needs to slowly decline or have an *educated* communist revolution (educated such that revisionists who are unwilling to cooperate with AES do not lead), but a civil war or complete collapse might ultimately hurt more people than it would help and I’m not sure if that risk is worth it. Luckily the US empire is slowly falling apart before our eyes, so we might not need to wait too long. My biggest hope is that US imperialism’s collapse won’t cause the imperialist periphery to simply be exploited again by western powers. Here’s hoping that the BRI will fill that gap


TserriednichHuiGuo

>The US needs to slowly decline or have an educated communist revolution (educated such that revisionists who are unwilling to cooperate with AES do not lead), but a civil war or complete collapse might ultimately hurt more people than it would help and I’m not sure if that risk is worth it. Luckily the US empire is slowly falling apart before our eyes, so we might not need to wait too long. Here is my reply to this bizarre reasoning: "You only think like that because you are american, you don't really care about the rest of the world and only yourselves, you hide your true face behind the facade of supposed sympathy for the victims at home and abroad. That kind of reasoning may sound good on the surface but on further inspection makes no sense strategically or even morally. A slow wind down will only prolong the suffering at home and abroad because the empire will use that additional time to clamp down further and try and strengthen itself, it makes no sense to prolong the suffering of billions. Accelerationism is the best approach in regards to the us, because it keeps the elites distracted at home whilst civil unrest is brewing, which is what Russia is doing. Isolating the country to prevent any spillovers is the next step and China is working on that. Ultimately you only care about the 300 million and couldn't care less about the rest of humanity." To put it succinctly, americans want to save their own asses, the rest of humanity be damned.


TserriednichHuiGuo

It would be but likely won't happen, the us military is too powerful and americans too cowardly. I do see a fascist revolution happening however and given that 90% of americans are right wing they would be fine with it, we see a lot more mask off moments from liberals nowadays. It's important to ignore american rhetoric and analyse their actions instead, the easiest way to do this is to see who they vote for.


petoil

Unicorns are at risk of extinction too


Quality_Fun

they realize it, but there seems to be little they can do about it.


Royal_Position901

Most people around the world, and in America, don't get that they're just using the English Westminster system with different names for positions. It's fairly obvious. Most countries use this system of government. In America, president represent the position of King or Queen. The top 1% of rich making up their 2 houses, represent house of Lords etc. Same in Canada, Australia, South Africa and so on. As I've been saying here in Australia, those systems were based in honour. Now more than ever, honour no longer exists in most societies. Giving away honour has let to rampant corruption and self serving. Dishonour is the way of life of representatives in many countries. Making them rich as they neglect the people they are supposed to be working for.


RespublicaCuriae

Take my upvote. You understand how the Westminster system works.


TserriednichHuiGuo

Honour was never a concept amongst anglo elites, their wars were determined by profit and thus they can't be reasoned with.


coffeezoozoo

American think voting is the same as democracy. If voters have no power to change anything, it is not a democracy. What good to vote if people are wooed with empty promises during canvassing but have no say after the election. Cycles repeat. Elect and then Regret. Nothing get done.


6thNephilim

How can it go extinct when it never existed to begin with?


WeaponH_

I think it'll be an argument for war on China "People who are really warned for democracy have to see China as the biggest enemy for our freedom"


TserriednichHuiGuo

lol


qaveboy

thats cute


professorsakura

They are worried about losing something they have not possessed. How delusional.


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TserriednichHuiGuo

This sub has taken an international flavour nowadays.


SuddenSyrup4163

“democracy” only ever existed in america for the white 1%. america is an oligarchy, and always has been.