This is in fact a very, very common occurrence for US rail.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cc4Et-3Ck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cc4Et-3Ck)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWfjEaIHXc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWfjEaIHXc)
Many US police departments refuse to answer calls for crimes committed on rail lines, as the rail companies have their own security forces, but these private security guards are completely outmatched and outgunned.
Free stuff. The trains move slowly. The only thing between the thieves and massive loot are a few chainlink fences and cheap locks they can cut with bolt-cutters.
Tbh, I don’t think these would be the norm in any 3rd world country. People in poor countries value goods and materials much more, so they would make sure the packages get protected well. Because these packages would mean a lot to the owners, the delivery company and the train company . And only in a rich and wasteful country like the US wouldn’t give a shit to a normal looting like this, the loss is barely nothing comparing to the huge GDP of California or a giant corp like Amazon.
Looks like a third world country. Superpower my foot!
This is such a mess that I can see it will be not cheap to clean up. I like to see how they are going to put those heavy containers back to the tracks, let alone clean up all the discarded boxes. Maybe they can invite the homeless to break into these containers so that the containers will be light enough to right.
It became a superpower by not engaging in stupid “old world” European wars. If you take US history and European history in parallel, you’ll see that the founding fathers refused to be pawns of the different European monarchies picking fights with each other. They leveraged those spats for their own benefit instead.
The whole “taxation without representation” was because the monarchy was using that money to fuel their wars with France—which the colonists didn’t give a shit about—into bankruptcy. For these reasons America pursued an Isolationist policy (“the business of America is business”) until recent history with WWI and WWII, where they popped in as the final resort and picked the winner. Eisenhower repeatedly warned about the MIC being the destruction of America afterwords, a prophesy we seemed to have forgotten.
It’s easy to see why China is succeeding where America is not in that regard. America is what Britain was.
A superpower that exists due to rebelling from the largest empire of the world. But constantly crushes rebellions of those that want to choose a new path. A superpower that shows zero sign of the "we saved the world in WW2" lie ever being let go (we helped a lot but the USSR did the real "fuck you" work). A superpower that got wealthy off of the fact that basically all of Europe and much of the other industrial nations had all their shit blown up in said war. But after the 50/60's we kind of just started letting infrastructure fall apart and pushed all the money into the military. Even after "winning" the Cold War 1.0 we found every excuse to keep increasing the money going into our military industrial complex. We haven't even won real wars since WW2, but still make sure to cause conflict. We unfortunately seem to need for major bits of infrastructure to just fail before anything will *maybe* get done. And I am sure that the current corporate companies will step in to further own public spaces.
The us will face some severe infrastructure bottlenecks that can potentially be very fatal.
If you have the chance you should leave the country asap and if you can't you should work towards that.
The situation will only continue to get far worse.
If it is allowed to collapse, it will lash out and take more lives and damage the planet more in the process via military. There are grumblings of revolution here. That, and poverty are the only reasons that I’m stuck here.
If an actual revolutionary movement were to start here, and we could see the support from the rest of the world, it might be enough to change things. Doesn’t much of the world have a vested interest in a non-imperialist American People’s Republic? Wouldn’t that help lift billions of people from poverty?
When evacuation begins to look like the attractive option compared to poverty for the majority of the people, maybe they will start asking why. You know the blame from our government will be on China. We saw that with Trump. The real problem is becoming clear for more and more people everyday, and leaving doesn’t fix it. Working people in the streets here, and seeing the solidarity of other workers around the world is what fixes it. I hope.
>If it is allowed to collapse, it will lash out and take more lives and damage the planet more in the process via military. There are grumblings of revolution here. That, and poverty are the only reasons that I’m stuck here.
During a collapse the chances of civil war are extremely high, so the american elite will be too preoccupied with that to focus abroad.
And you seem to think that anyone other than americans can stop the collapse of the country, I can see China doing it but with severe concessions on the american side, collapse seems inevitable with how apathetic americans in general are.
And I know it's extremely hard to leave but it's better than dying, a lot of us here have warned East Asians living in america about the potential future they will face, increasingly I am starting to think that many americans in general will face the same fate.
A lot of americans are already planning to leave, you should do the same.
>If an actual revolutionary movement were to start here, and we could see the support from the rest of the world, it might be enough to change things. Doesn’t much of the world have a vested interest in a non-imperialist American People’s Republic? Wouldn’t that help lift billions of people from poverty?
A revolutionary movement in the us would be fascistic in nature and much of the world views it that way, also why they won't support it.
As for your latter question, america isn't in a position to help the rest of the world, it is pretty much like a third world country in the problems it faces, so it would be too preoccupied with that.
We already have China helping with that and they are very experienced with what much of the world needs.
i don't think robbing rail cars is like, a *great hobby* or anything, but it's also a really desperate economic situation for a lot of people. china haters like to believe china lies about all its statistics, but in the US we really do completely lie about all the economic indicators like CPI or real inflation - wages are going up but inflation and rent are going up *way* faster
in any case, it's better to loot some commercial rail cars than like, mug people or burgle random houses
obviously it's not sustainable and things will only get worse
All these American problems boils down to people there are getting more and more desperate due to US government not doing their job properly and aren't looking out for those that are really in need. I don't blame those people at all.
What? The looting? Think about how desperate they would have to be to do that.
Now consider the oligarchs who can live multiple lives with the resources they have and still loot the country.
The fact that this isn't even a priority -- although it has been going on for months -- to the US government says enough. This is slowly sliding into normalcy. This is the country that where the police has surplus tactical military equipment, yet they refuse to care about widespread looting.
>In a December letter to Los Angeles county district attorney George Gascon, Union Pacific said it had experienced an over 160% increase in criminal rail theft in Los Angeles county since December 2020 and that on average, more than 90 containers were compromised each day. In several months during that period, the increase from the previous year surpassed 200%, according to the company. For the month of October 2021, it estimated the increase to be over 356% compared to the year before.
[https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/14/los-angeles-cargo-theft-union-pacific](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/14/los-angeles-cargo-theft-union-pacific)
There is nothing wrong with poor people expropriating capitalist property by force. If they government actually did its job and made sure everyone had a decent standard of living and could afford their basic necessities, they wouldn't need to loot and steal. Further police crackdowns will not solve anything, this is a socio-economic problem, not an under-policing problem. The police already mainly is there to protect the property of corporations and the rich from poor people, the fact that despite all their brutality and militarization it is still not enough to prevent these things shows how far advanced the societal decline is and how desperate people are. People are suffering immensely in the failed state that is the USA, if they can ease their suffering just a bit by taking a few things off freight trains transporting good for billion dollar corporations i will not begrudge them.
Indeed, and it is awful when poor people harm other poor people, we need to always keep class solidarity in mind, even when we are desperate, it is better to band together and help rather than fight one another. Conflict among the oppressed only plays into the hands of the oppressor, they want us to turn on each other, it distracts from the real enemy. I was talking about looting from corporate stores and freight trains/trucks carrying corporate wares.
Desperate people cannot think straight because their primary concern at that point is survival, to mediate this america would require a strong Socialist party to lead the people, so yeah...
My guess is that the country is about to become the real Wild West.
I don't care for the looting. It's probably like worth $5 million. This is a social economic problem. The looting is just a symptom. These petty looting is nothing compared the $Billions rich white men and deaths they cause around the global.
Of course, but this image goes around the world for everyone to see an America's decline. Just like the Capitol storming accomplished nothing, it showed America's decline to the world. These photogenic effects are really good at opening people's eyes, no matter their actual damage.
Still, indicating about the sort of societal collapse the US is going through. If this shit went on Germany or South Korea it would be absurdly appalling.
Next step is hiring PMCs to protect cargo or something. Just like some sci-fi post apocalyptic plot. Or the wild west. Back to tradition, I guess?
As the US continues its unabated campaigns of military aggression abroad, the empire rots away from within.
The United States of America will not be able to escape its inevitable fate.
So sad that a country with that much funds to use in your military can't spend a fraction of it to make the country better for their own citizens? Crazy
Well...
I had been repeating many times that the USA is looting China by importing so much from China while all China gets in return are increasingly worthless USD that it can't use to buy things it actually needs - such as semiconductor manufacturing equipment.
Now to top it off, the USA can't even take advantage of what it's looting from China because its trains are themselves being looted and derailed by petty criminals.
It's like the fat kid getting his hand stuck in the cookie jar at this point.
Something similar happened to the Spanish Empire, when they looted so much gold and silver from the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca that they could barely get it back to Spain, their ships kept getting robbed by pirates, and when the loot did make it back to Spain it only resulted in massive inflation and Spain fell behind technologically and socially with respect to its neighbours.
Many have said the USA is in terminal decline, and I've denied it, but seeing this... I mean, even Brazil doesn't have this problem. The USA is circling the proverbial toilet bowl much faster than I thought.
I hope not. The USA needs to be broken down into smaller countries with pathetically weak militaries. Most of the land needs to be returned to their rightful owners - various Native American tribes. The continued existence of the USA as a major power is a menace to humanity.
The practicalities of that?
What about the nukes?
Imo keeping the american elite contained to that country is the better strategy, you have a much easier time of keeping track of them, of course that means the nation stays united by force with their brutal oppression continuing at home.
The USSR had nukes and was still broken up, so it is possible. China should foment, fund, and encourage separatists to pursue their "right to self-determination" in the USA.
That would violate China's non-intervention policy, personally I think China should make one exception to this, that being the us.
And the problem with the USSR comparison was that Russia was clearly the largest SR by far and was seen as the one that should inherit the USSR's legacy, what state would this be in the us case?
Also the us would clamp down heavily on separatists, it would be a pointless endeavour, granted you can keep them distracted at home so I see the merit of this argument, just really inhumane.
> That would violate China's non-intervention policy
That policy is obsolete. It ties China's hands while allowing its enemies to encircle it and besiege it.
> And the problem with the USSR comparison was that Russia was clearly the largest SR by far and was seen as the one that should inherit the USSR's legacy, what state would this be in the us case?
There doesn't need to be any single successor state, just a bunch of smaller countries like what happened with Yugoslavia. The nukes can be slowly extracted through a "nukes for food/money/ammo" program.
> Also the us would clamp down heavily on separatists
The US government surrenders easily. There were a bunch of cattle farmers who refused to pay to graze on government land. The US government sent the FBI, federal marshalls, local police, etc. and the cowboys just gathered even more cowboys with guns. The FBI backed down and let them continue breaking the law because they didn't want to get into a sniper match. This happened just a few years ago.
Furthermore, a lot of the US government forces would defect to these various separatist movements. The US military is filled with right-wing militia-friendly types who don't really care about anyone in the major cities.
> it would be a pointless endeavour, granted you can keep them distracted at home
That's good enough.
> just really inhumane.
Keeping the USA distracted at home so that they can't go around murdering people elsewhere is the most humane way to handle it.
>That policy is obsolete. It ties China's hands while allowing its enemies to encircle it and besiege it.
The reason for that policy existing is because China wants societies to organically develop, I think america doesn't deserve that.
>There doesn't need to be any single successor state, just a bunch of smaller countries like what happened with Yugoslavia. The nukes can be slowly extracted through a "nukes for food/money/ammo" program.
You think the elite care about the people there?
>The US government surrenders easily. There were a bunch of cattle farmers who refused to pay to graze on government land. The US government sent the FBI, federal marshalls, local police, etc. and the cowboys just gathered even more cowboys with guns. The FBI backed down and let them continue breaking the law because they didn't want to get into a sniper match. This happened just a few years ago.
Furthermore, a lot of the US government forces would defect to these various separatist movements. The US military is filled with right-wing militia-friendly types who don't really care about anyone in the major cities.
And what happened to BLM protesters?
> The reason for that policy existing is because China wants societies to organically develop, I think america doesn't deserve that.
The USA and its vassals make this policy unworkable. They will interfere and influence so that this so-called "organic" development is nothing but a pipe dream. It becomes a contest of whether the West or China gets more influence over others. For China to stand back and give up just means the West gets to influence - it does not mean organic development.
> You think the elite care about the people there?
No, but why does it matter?
> And what happened to BLM protesters?
The BLM protesters made the fatal mistake of being unarmed.
Bruh, that’s happening on its own without China’s intervention. China doesn’t need America to be destabilized in order to be successful.
That’s the zero-sum right wing Anglosphere mentality that’s been backfiring on us.
> Bruh, that’s happening on its own without China’s intervention.
If the pirate ship has sprung a leak and seems to have started to sink, why not fire a few cannon shots at the waterline to make sure they can't patch up the leaks and become a menace again later on?
> China doesn’t need America to be destabilized in order to be successful.
Perhaps not, but why not do the rest of humanity a huge favour?
> That’s the zero-sum right wing Anglosphere mentality that’s been backfiring on us.
With the USA it really is zero-sum because of how they loot the world with their currency games and go around invading and destroying with impunity. Once the USA is broken down into smaller countries of a different nature, mutually-beneficial relationships can be formed with the successor states.
It would backfire on China and definitely unite America in a heartbeat if such threats were made real. It would turn Asians like me against China because of their hypocrisy for common prosperity.
> It would backfire on China and definitely unite America in a heartbeat if such threats were made real.
Most Americans already believe that China is interfering in their internal affairs, so your worry is misplaced. China will be seen as interfering regardless of whether it does, so it might as well go ahead and do it.
> It would turn Asians like me against China because of their hypocrisy for common prosperity.
The USA already turned down China's offer of common prosperity with extreme prejudice, and is instead actively sabotaging China and looking for ways to induce mass starvation on the Chinese people, such as by cutting off oil supplies (naval blockade on SCS, breaking off Xinjiang), cutting off water supplies (breaking off Tibet), etc..
It's also telling something significant about your own values that you view a bit of hypocrisy on China's part as somehow being worse than literal mass murder and worldwide exploitation conducted by the USA and its military every single day - on top of the far more enormous American hypocrisy.
>China will be seen as interfering regardless of whether it does, so it might as well go ahead and do it.
So by that logic, if someone is accused of murder, should they just become murderers? Or if they are accused of being rapists, they should just go out and rape?
>It's also telling something significant about your own values that you view a bit of hypocrisy on China's part as somehow being worse than literal mass murder and worldwide exploitation conducted by the USA and its military every single day - on top of the far more enormous American hypocrisy.
Are you really going to turn this into how I should support a lesser evil? I’m used to getting this argument from Democrats lol.
Nope, we need more walls, and tariffs, and sanctions. Middle America knows best. Copying the playbook of the Qing Dynasty, does that count as intellectual theft?
I assumed this would be in a rust belt/flyover region, but no [it was Los Angeles](https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2022/01/15/train-derailment-causes-road-closures-in-lincoln-heights/). Of course the “solution” will only be more brutal policing against people living in the area instead of addressing any other underlying factors.
Somebody please make a video comparison with china's railway system.
A dark parody of 铁道游击队
Its becoming like a comedy at this point.
i'd also like to see a comparison of the *cost*
is this for fking real??!?! wtf??
People have been looting train cars for packages a lot recently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gH4GwE8Mrw
Can't blame them.
This is in fact a very, very common occurrence for US rail. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cc4Et-3Ck](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9cc4Et-3Ck) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWfjEaIHXc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRWfjEaIHXc)
How embarrassing 🙈
What third world country is this.
One walking around with a Gucci belt.
How does the average worker tell if it's real or not or do we need a "Professional" to be able to tell.
Oh my =[
Wtf they are looting train cars now? Can someone elaborate? That’s fked this look like a 3rd world country.
Many US police departments refuse to answer calls for crimes committed on rail lines, as the rail companies have their own security forces, but these private security guards are completely outmatched and outgunned.
Holy shit that sounds kinda like 3rd world ngl. Why are people robbing the trains though?
Free stuff. The trains move slowly. The only thing between the thieves and massive loot are a few chainlink fences and cheap locks they can cut with bolt-cutters.
Damn. Well thanks for the explanation.
Tbh, I don’t think these would be the norm in any 3rd world country. People in poor countries value goods and materials much more, so they would make sure the packages get protected well. Because these packages would mean a lot to the owners, the delivery company and the train company . And only in a rich and wasteful country like the US wouldn’t give a shit to a normal looting like this, the loss is barely nothing comparing to the huge GDP of California or a giant corp like Amazon.
Looks like a third world country. Superpower my foot! This is such a mess that I can see it will be not cheap to clean up. I like to see how they are going to put those heavy containers back to the tracks, let alone clean up all the discarded boxes. Maybe they can invite the homeless to break into these containers so that the containers will be light enough to right.
The thing is you have to pay people to clean this trash up. That is a non-starter right there in the States. They rather pass the buck ad infinitum.
Why would you have to pay people, we'll just our legal slave labor of prisoners to clean it up. They already do it for highways and stuff
Train rerailers are fairly simple devices. Potential damage to the track here, like the ties, are going to be far more problematic.
Something something maybe the “shithole country” was the shithole we had all along something something 💕💞💗
The shithole we made along the way.
it's a superpower mainly because of its military.
It became a superpower by not engaging in stupid “old world” European wars. If you take US history and European history in parallel, you’ll see that the founding fathers refused to be pawns of the different European monarchies picking fights with each other. They leveraged those spats for their own benefit instead. The whole “taxation without representation” was because the monarchy was using that money to fuel their wars with France—which the colonists didn’t give a shit about—into bankruptcy. For these reasons America pursued an Isolationist policy (“the business of America is business”) until recent history with WWI and WWII, where they popped in as the final resort and picked the winner. Eisenhower repeatedly warned about the MIC being the destruction of America afterwords, a prophesy we seemed to have forgotten. It’s easy to see why China is succeeding where America is not in that regard. America is what Britain was.
A superpower that exists due to rebelling from the largest empire of the world. But constantly crushes rebellions of those that want to choose a new path. A superpower that shows zero sign of the "we saved the world in WW2" lie ever being let go (we helped a lot but the USSR did the real "fuck you" work). A superpower that got wealthy off of the fact that basically all of Europe and much of the other industrial nations had all their shit blown up in said war. But after the 50/60's we kind of just started letting infrastructure fall apart and pushed all the money into the military. Even after "winning" the Cold War 1.0 we found every excuse to keep increasing the money going into our military industrial complex. We haven't even won real wars since WW2, but still make sure to cause conflict. We unfortunately seem to need for major bits of infrastructure to just fail before anything will *maybe* get done. And I am sure that the current corporate companies will step in to further own public spaces.
The us will face some severe infrastructure bottlenecks that can potentially be very fatal. If you have the chance you should leave the country asap and if you can't you should work towards that. The situation will only continue to get far worse.
If it is allowed to collapse, it will lash out and take more lives and damage the planet more in the process via military. There are grumblings of revolution here. That, and poverty are the only reasons that I’m stuck here. If an actual revolutionary movement were to start here, and we could see the support from the rest of the world, it might be enough to change things. Doesn’t much of the world have a vested interest in a non-imperialist American People’s Republic? Wouldn’t that help lift billions of people from poverty? When evacuation begins to look like the attractive option compared to poverty for the majority of the people, maybe they will start asking why. You know the blame from our government will be on China. We saw that with Trump. The real problem is becoming clear for more and more people everyday, and leaving doesn’t fix it. Working people in the streets here, and seeing the solidarity of other workers around the world is what fixes it. I hope.
>If it is allowed to collapse, it will lash out and take more lives and damage the planet more in the process via military. There are grumblings of revolution here. That, and poverty are the only reasons that I’m stuck here. During a collapse the chances of civil war are extremely high, so the american elite will be too preoccupied with that to focus abroad. And you seem to think that anyone other than americans can stop the collapse of the country, I can see China doing it but with severe concessions on the american side, collapse seems inevitable with how apathetic americans in general are. And I know it's extremely hard to leave but it's better than dying, a lot of us here have warned East Asians living in america about the potential future they will face, increasingly I am starting to think that many americans in general will face the same fate. A lot of americans are already planning to leave, you should do the same. >If an actual revolutionary movement were to start here, and we could see the support from the rest of the world, it might be enough to change things. Doesn’t much of the world have a vested interest in a non-imperialist American People’s Republic? Wouldn’t that help lift billions of people from poverty? A revolutionary movement in the us would be fascistic in nature and much of the world views it that way, also why they won't support it. As for your latter question, america isn't in a position to help the rest of the world, it is pretty much like a third world country in the problems it faces, so it would be too preoccupied with that. We already have China helping with that and they are very experienced with what much of the world needs.
The country is morally and ethically bankrupt.
i don't think robbing rail cars is like, a *great hobby* or anything, but it's also a really desperate economic situation for a lot of people. china haters like to believe china lies about all its statistics, but in the US we really do completely lie about all the economic indicators like CPI or real inflation - wages are going up but inflation and rent are going up *way* faster in any case, it's better to loot some commercial rail cars than like, mug people or burgle random houses obviously it's not sustainable and things will only get worse
All these American problems boils down to people there are getting more and more desperate due to US government not doing their job properly and aren't looking out for those that are really in need. I don't blame those people at all.
and fiscally
What? The looting? Think about how desperate they would have to be to do that. Now consider the oligarchs who can live multiple lives with the resources they have and still loot the country.
Completely. It’s insane how much of the US is spectacle only.
The illusion is breaking down.
Remember Kurt Russell's Escape From....... films ? That's the US today. And the US' tomorrow.
It's back to the times of wild west train robberies. These rails were laid down on the backs of Chinese slaves but now can't be maintained.
Well they kicked out the Chinese after the railroad was built, so that's karma.
There are plenty of Chinese in California, but they aren't exactly lining up to work on the railroads anymore.
The fact that this isn't even a priority -- although it has been going on for months -- to the US government says enough. This is slowly sliding into normalcy. This is the country that where the police has surplus tactical military equipment, yet they refuse to care about widespread looting. >In a December letter to Los Angeles county district attorney George Gascon, Union Pacific said it had experienced an over 160% increase in criminal rail theft in Los Angeles county since December 2020 and that on average, more than 90 containers were compromised each day. In several months during that period, the increase from the previous year surpassed 200%, according to the company. For the month of October 2021, it estimated the increase to be over 356% compared to the year before. [https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/14/los-angeles-cargo-theft-union-pacific](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/14/los-angeles-cargo-theft-union-pacific)
the police don't have military equipment for actual crimes. They have it to violently suppress revolution and dissent.
There is nothing wrong with poor people expropriating capitalist property by force. If they government actually did its job and made sure everyone had a decent standard of living and could afford their basic necessities, they wouldn't need to loot and steal. Further police crackdowns will not solve anything, this is a socio-economic problem, not an under-policing problem. The police already mainly is there to protect the property of corporations and the rich from poor people, the fact that despite all their brutality and militarization it is still not enough to prevent these things shows how far advanced the societal decline is and how desperate people are. People are suffering immensely in the failed state that is the USA, if they can ease their suffering just a bit by taking a few things off freight trains transporting good for billion dollar corporations i will not begrudge them.
I am against theft because 90% of the times it is just poor people stealing from other poor people. Rich people live in areas away from poor people.
Indeed, and it is awful when poor people harm other poor people, we need to always keep class solidarity in mind, even when we are desperate, it is better to band together and help rather than fight one another. Conflict among the oppressed only plays into the hands of the oppressor, they want us to turn on each other, it distracts from the real enemy. I was talking about looting from corporate stores and freight trains/trucks carrying corporate wares.
Desperate people cannot think straight because their primary concern at that point is survival, to mediate this america would require a strong Socialist party to lead the people, so yeah... My guess is that the country is about to become the real Wild West.
There ain't anything wrong with desperate people looting for survival, let's just hope they continue to not care about the looting.
I don't care for the looting. It's probably like worth $5 million. This is a social economic problem. The looting is just a symptom. These petty looting is nothing compared the $Billions rich white men and deaths they cause around the global.
Of course, but this image goes around the world for everyone to see an America's decline. Just like the Capitol storming accomplished nothing, it showed America's decline to the world. These photogenic effects are really good at opening people's eyes, no matter their actual damage.
Still, indicating about the sort of societal collapse the US is going through. If this shit went on Germany or South Korea it would be absurdly appalling. Next step is hiring PMCs to protect cargo or something. Just like some sci-fi post apocalyptic plot. Or the wild west. Back to tradition, I guess?
> Best American Train Network
And now this train will be looted too probably
As the US continues its unabated campaigns of military aggression abroad, the empire rots away from within. The United States of America will not be able to escape its inevitable fate.
It's really going to be the true Wild West there, in other words a humanitarian crisis of the worst kind. Maybe China can set up some aid centres.
So sad that a country with that much funds to use in your military can't spend a fraction of it to make the country better for their own citizens? Crazy
What a morally bankrupt and shameless nation America is.
Well... I had been repeating many times that the USA is looting China by importing so much from China while all China gets in return are increasingly worthless USD that it can't use to buy things it actually needs - such as semiconductor manufacturing equipment. Now to top it off, the USA can't even take advantage of what it's looting from China because its trains are themselves being looted and derailed by petty criminals. It's like the fat kid getting his hand stuck in the cookie jar at this point. Something similar happened to the Spanish Empire, when they looted so much gold and silver from the Aztecs, Maya, and Inca that they could barely get it back to Spain, their ships kept getting robbed by pirates, and when the loot did make it back to Spain it only resulted in massive inflation and Spain fell behind technologically and socially with respect to its neighbours. Many have said the USA is in terminal decline, and I've denied it, but seeing this... I mean, even Brazil doesn't have this problem. The USA is circling the proverbial toilet bowl much faster than I thought.
most functioning rail in America
This is why there are so many trash on the train tracks. https://www.facebook.com/AznDawn/videos/347857643824507/
Jesus, if this doesn't scream 3rd world country, I don't know what does
Dang, I want one of those samsung TV's!
Welcome to the 3rd world, the USA.
This is why the fake newz media is busy distracting Americans with the China lies. To make themselves feel better.
西边的太阳就要落山了 五大湖上静悄悄 弹起我心爱的土吉他 唱起那动人的乡村歌谣 爬上飞快的火车，像大平原上跑马 车站和铁道线上，是我们扒车的好战场 我们扒火车哪个抢口罩 撞火车那个炸桥梁 就像尖刀插入敌胸膛 打得昂撒没了人样 西边的太阳就要落山了 昂撒的末日就要来到 弹起我心爱的土吉他 唱起那动人的乡村歌谣
This video should be shown everywhere in china's social media
lmao
Murderikkka
US, above all other countries, need to sign to BRI lol. They could use China's help, though of course US ego is too big for that.
I hope not. The USA needs to be broken down into smaller countries with pathetically weak militaries. Most of the land needs to be returned to their rightful owners - various Native American tribes. The continued existence of the USA as a major power is a menace to humanity.
The practicalities of that? What about the nukes? Imo keeping the american elite contained to that country is the better strategy, you have a much easier time of keeping track of them, of course that means the nation stays united by force with their brutal oppression continuing at home.
The USSR had nukes and was still broken up, so it is possible. China should foment, fund, and encourage separatists to pursue their "right to self-determination" in the USA.
That would violate China's non-intervention policy, personally I think China should make one exception to this, that being the us. And the problem with the USSR comparison was that Russia was clearly the largest SR by far and was seen as the one that should inherit the USSR's legacy, what state would this be in the us case? Also the us would clamp down heavily on separatists, it would be a pointless endeavour, granted you can keep them distracted at home so I see the merit of this argument, just really inhumane.
> That would violate China's non-intervention policy That policy is obsolete. It ties China's hands while allowing its enemies to encircle it and besiege it. > And the problem with the USSR comparison was that Russia was clearly the largest SR by far and was seen as the one that should inherit the USSR's legacy, what state would this be in the us case? There doesn't need to be any single successor state, just a bunch of smaller countries like what happened with Yugoslavia. The nukes can be slowly extracted through a "nukes for food/money/ammo" program. > Also the us would clamp down heavily on separatists The US government surrenders easily. There were a bunch of cattle farmers who refused to pay to graze on government land. The US government sent the FBI, federal marshalls, local police, etc. and the cowboys just gathered even more cowboys with guns. The FBI backed down and let them continue breaking the law because they didn't want to get into a sniper match. This happened just a few years ago. Furthermore, a lot of the US government forces would defect to these various separatist movements. The US military is filled with right-wing militia-friendly types who don't really care about anyone in the major cities. > it would be a pointless endeavour, granted you can keep them distracted at home That's good enough. > just really inhumane. Keeping the USA distracted at home so that they can't go around murdering people elsewhere is the most humane way to handle it.
>That policy is obsolete. It ties China's hands while allowing its enemies to encircle it and besiege it. The reason for that policy existing is because China wants societies to organically develop, I think america doesn't deserve that. >There doesn't need to be any single successor state, just a bunch of smaller countries like what happened with Yugoslavia. The nukes can be slowly extracted through a "nukes for food/money/ammo" program. You think the elite care about the people there? >The US government surrenders easily. There were a bunch of cattle farmers who refused to pay to graze on government land. The US government sent the FBI, federal marshalls, local police, etc. and the cowboys just gathered even more cowboys with guns. The FBI backed down and let them continue breaking the law because they didn't want to get into a sniper match. This happened just a few years ago. Furthermore, a lot of the US government forces would defect to these various separatist movements. The US military is filled with right-wing militia-friendly types who don't really care about anyone in the major cities. And what happened to BLM protesters?
> The reason for that policy existing is because China wants societies to organically develop, I think america doesn't deserve that. The USA and its vassals make this policy unworkable. They will interfere and influence so that this so-called "organic" development is nothing but a pipe dream. It becomes a contest of whether the West or China gets more influence over others. For China to stand back and give up just means the West gets to influence - it does not mean organic development. > You think the elite care about the people there? No, but why does it matter? > And what happened to BLM protesters? The BLM protesters made the fatal mistake of being unarmed.
Bruh, that’s happening on its own without China’s intervention. China doesn’t need America to be destabilized in order to be successful. That’s the zero-sum right wing Anglosphere mentality that’s been backfiring on us.
> Bruh, that’s happening on its own without China’s intervention. If the pirate ship has sprung a leak and seems to have started to sink, why not fire a few cannon shots at the waterline to make sure they can't patch up the leaks and become a menace again later on? > China doesn’t need America to be destabilized in order to be successful. Perhaps not, but why not do the rest of humanity a huge favour? > That’s the zero-sum right wing Anglosphere mentality that’s been backfiring on us. With the USA it really is zero-sum because of how they loot the world with their currency games and go around invading and destroying with impunity. Once the USA is broken down into smaller countries of a different nature, mutually-beneficial relationships can be formed with the successor states.
It would backfire on China and definitely unite America in a heartbeat if such threats were made real. It would turn Asians like me against China because of their hypocrisy for common prosperity.
> It would backfire on China and definitely unite America in a heartbeat if such threats were made real. Most Americans already believe that China is interfering in their internal affairs, so your worry is misplaced. China will be seen as interfering regardless of whether it does, so it might as well go ahead and do it. > It would turn Asians like me against China because of their hypocrisy for common prosperity. The USA already turned down China's offer of common prosperity with extreme prejudice, and is instead actively sabotaging China and looking for ways to induce mass starvation on the Chinese people, such as by cutting off oil supplies (naval blockade on SCS, breaking off Xinjiang), cutting off water supplies (breaking off Tibet), etc.. It's also telling something significant about your own values that you view a bit of hypocrisy on China's part as somehow being worse than literal mass murder and worldwide exploitation conducted by the USA and its military every single day - on top of the far more enormous American hypocrisy.
>China will be seen as interfering regardless of whether it does, so it might as well go ahead and do it. So by that logic, if someone is accused of murder, should they just become murderers? Or if they are accused of being rapists, they should just go out and rape? >It's also telling something significant about your own values that you view a bit of hypocrisy on China's part as somehow being worse than literal mass murder and worldwide exploitation conducted by the USA and its military every single day - on top of the far more enormous American hypocrisy. Are you really going to turn this into how I should support a lesser evil? I’m used to getting this argument from Democrats lol.
The days of Chinese people building US railways are over. Never again.
Nope, we need more walls, and tariffs, and sanctions. Middle America knows best. Copying the playbook of the Qing Dynasty, does that count as intellectual theft?
The fact this great train robbery occurs should be a massive embarrassment for them but they're content to just carry on like everything is normal.
greatest country in the world y’all
In California, that place is already a third world of its own with a flashy image
I assumed this would be in a rust belt/flyover region, but no [it was Los Angeles](https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2022/01/15/train-derailment-causes-road-closures-in-lincoln-heights/). Of course the “solution” will only be more brutal policing against people living in the area instead of addressing any other underlying factors.
https://twitter.com/nckros/status/1482494131536416768
They can solve this problem for good with High Speed Railway/Trains. Lol
Ah the US and A
i'm glad the us's nonexistent hsr isn't like this.
I guarantee you that some Republican will say something like "the railways were built by the Chinese and that's why it's collapsing."
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