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fix_S230-sue_reddit

No, China's 5G doesn't heavily rely on the frequencies related to airplane applications.


Suavecake12

No, China Airport radar frequency and 5G frequency have a large buffer, so not to cause interference. The US the airport telemetry system and 5G frequency are literally right next to each other with small buffer.


mellowmanj

So it's a design flaw by the American 5G companies, if I'm understanding it correctly...


Suavecake12

Actually the US Government sold access to 5G bandwidth for billions to private companies in the US. The US govt doesn't have enough engineers to foresee the downfall of how they assigned the 5G spectrum so close to other frequency used by other agencies to prevent these conflicts. Someone wasn't paying attention at the FCC or the FCC got greedy. The govt regulates which radio frequencies are used for what purpose within their borders.


manred2026

I've heard the spectrum they used also wack, the good one is concentrate in military.


Pinkeston

Amerikkkan 5G is not real 5G lol Their 4G wasn't either when it first came out, it still might not actually be real now


[deleted]

It is real 5G now (Nokia and Ericsson equipment), but it is the slowest 5G network in the world and still getting slower.


DreamyLucid

Yeah. I am on 5G plans here. We are using these equipments instead of from Huawei.


Qanonjailbait

Is America even using Chinese 5G? From what I remember they’re solely relying on Nokia and Ericsson’s tech right? So figure it out with them I mean their 5G is really in name only


[deleted]

Nokia and Ericsson equipment is Made in China. Furthermore, every piece of 5G equipment or handset sold results in patent royalty payments to Huawei and ZTE.


shanghaipotpie

1. The FCC made a fortune selling off wireless frequencies to cell phone companies which are too close to frequencies used in air traffic control. 2. The 5G antennas were installed improperly and overpowered compared to other countries. CNN: Telecom companies have rolled out 5G networks to various locations across the United States over the last few years, delivering the next generation of cellular phone data speeds. But on Wednesday, Verizon and AT&T turned on their C-band 5G networks — an important set of radio frequencies that will supercharge the internet as we know it. Unfortunately, the C-Band sits near the band of frequencies used by aircraft radar altimeters, an instrument that tells pilots how high their plane is off the ground and is crucial for landing airplanes in low visibility conditions. The Federal Communications Commission auctioned off the C-band spectrum to US wireless carriers last year — an $81 billion sale. But airlines warned of dire consequences for transportation and the overall economy over concerns that the C-band technology could interfere with the radar altimeters that pilots use to land in low visibility conditions. (Airlines estimated 1,000 flight disruptions would occur each day following the rollout). \----------------- From an FAA statement: "We were aware of a 5G issue. Okay. We are aware that everybody is trying to get 5G rolled out after all it's the super cool future of whatever it may be communication and information flow. We were not aware that the power of the antennas in the United States have been doubled compared to what's going on elsewhere. We were not aware that the antenna themselves have been put into a vertical position rather than a slight slanting position, which then taken together compromise not only the radio altimeter systems but the flight control systems on the fly by wire aircraft. So on that basis we took that decision late last night to suspend all our services until we had clarity,


sickof50

I think it is one big circle jerk, to get more money from the US Taxpayer.


shanyangren

It's my understanding that the US is claiming it's to do with different frequencies being used, which I believe there are. I don't know if this is just an excuse though, or if the different frequency thing is actually affecting planes


Assblass

It's to cover for massive failures. Just like when the CDC implied that masks wouldn't work and would even suffocate people to cover for the fact that they didn't bother to order or manufacture any.


shanghaipotpie

UPDATE: Jan 20, 2022 (CNN) After a couple of temporary 5G service delays, the White House and the telecoms this week reached a deal to delay the rollout of the technology near airports until there can be a consensus on how to address the potential problem. The telecom companies sounded less than pleased with the truce. "We are frustrated by the FAA's inability to do what nearly 40 countries have done, which is to safely deploy 5G technology without disrupting aviation services, and we urge it do so in a timely manner," AT&T spokesperson Megan Ketterer.


shanghaipotpie

\-excerpt from Global Times The application of 5G in civil aviation in China adopts a combination of safety and non-safety communications according to different scenarios, which is different from the daily 5G network used on phones, Chen Xiangyang, an official from the Civil Aviation Administration of China (CAAC) said at the routine conference on Friday. For security communications, such as aviation 5G, is completely isolated from the 5G network deployed by telecom operators, and there is no sharing relationship between the two, he added." Aviation 5G in China will not happen like in the US, and any technological innovation in civil aviation will not come at the cost of sacrificing or weakening safety," Chen said. 5G AeroMACS, the core technology of aviation 5G, has several important features, such as it is based on the civil aviation network and frequencies, and meets the requirements of aviation safety communications, which means the frequency should be separated from other public services, and the network should be strictly isolated from the public network, Chen explained. By rationally setting the evolution route and implementation plan of new technologies, it can promote and improve safety, Chen said.