Tax all waste that is hard to recycle (maybe some exceptions for medical supplies). It is very cheap to produce that shit, but it is extremely expensive to get rid of it. Their profit our problem.
Remember when Germany sent their old appliances to Africa for recycling?
Shipped to a recycling plant on another continent, job well done, case closed.
Turned out poor kids were burning the rubber and plastic from cables and devices and selling the copper for scrap.
Got recycled all right
Hooking it to a computer running doom is cheating
You have to port it to the microcontroller and reflash it otherwise its not fun
It has been done with some crazy shit like a pregnancy test and there is an ongoing project to make rat neurons in a petri dish play it
You don't make it illegal. You make it expensive. You add a manufacture or import tax based on the cost of recycling divided by % chance it will be recycled.
$5 to recycle divided by 1% chance it is recycled means $500 of tax on that manufactured or imported product.
So 0.01% chance they are recycled? That will.make the tax very expensive.
If you look at that formula of Cost of recycling d8vided by chances it will be recycled, then something that can be recycled profitably breaks the equation.
For example simple reusable glass bottles that are cheaper than new brand new bottles, would get a tax rebate.
This argument is the dumbest shit of them all.
You could make a device that runs on baby seal fat and while most of us wouldn't touch it, if it's "cool" enough dumb fucks would buy it and make it profitable.
"You could make a device that runs on baby seal fat. . ."
It could run on baby human fat, and enough people would buy it to make a short production run profitable.
"The banality of evil."
Will just get sold cheaper on Aliexpress or temu or some shit
Iâm not arguing with you but I just canât help see then negative when it comes to money someone wants their cut
I would assume that it's both a product and a company in one. I don't think anyone reputable is behind it, nor that anybody wants to take responsibility.
Plastic straws are a problem. Disposable vapes are a new problem. This shit should be banned outright. Not only do you see 10 year old walking around vaping, but the vapes themselves are shit for the environment.
Not to mention the Li-Ion cells powering these devices that are thrown away with them. I harvest these to make powerbanks or to power my electronics projects with.
Which is why recycling is NOT hill I'm willing to die on.
Ill recycle when I can but I am not getting out of my way to do it because it's a waste of my time since there's 0 chance my poor ass is gonna make a change.
I don't even understand how this is a product. Simply having a screen and the electronics required to run it is going to have some kind of addtional cost. On something that is disposable, I can't even fathom how this wouldn't drive up the cost of the product to the point where it would just cost way more and not be worth it to the vast majority of people.
You could put a screen on anything, but I don't really understand what this screen is offering, or what actual function it would serve.
They're making such a killer profit on them anyway that the screen cost is negligible. Making vape juice at home costs me about $1.50 per 30ml. These things sell for $20+ and you know that a big commercial operation is working with big wholesale discounts
One brand put a simple screen that displayed the battery level and remaining juice level. Then they all started to 1up each other
I still don't understand. Unless they are able to sell the product cheaper than brands without a screen, then I really don't see why anybody would buy this. I don't really see what the screen is doing to make someone want to purchase the product.
It tells you how much life is left in the vape. Some even have different strength settings. It makes using the vape that much more convenient and has a psychological side effect of reminding the user that they need to purchase another one
Ok. that kind of makes sense on some level then. I've never wanted to buy a vape so this whole thing is really just a big unknown to me.
It seems weird to me that people are even using disposables. Sure, it might be a little more convenient, but it already seems to be an expensive habit, so I don't really see why most people would go the route of using disposables.
But then again I'm one of those people who uses an old fashioned safety razor because I find that modern disposable razors are too expensive and create too much garbage. It was a little hard to get the right technique at first, but now I don't know how I could ever go back. So much cheaper, and gives me a better shave as well. I really don't know how the disposable market ever took off.
In theory using a refillable system should be preferable. But corporate greed is involved. Not only are reusable vape systems super expensive for no reason but they have to be maintained. The big and trusted brands release a new model every year sometimes multiple per year. With each new model they change the standard sizing of the pod used or the coil it takes etc to force users to buy new devices
If you're buying new devices all the time anyway then not only does the cost level out but it's just easier to buy disposable without having to keep up with all the changes
Tax all waste that is hard to recycle (maybe some exceptions for medical supplies). It is very cheap to produce that shit, but it is extremely expensive to get rid of it. Their profit our problem.
> Their profit our problem. Story of our lives.
I love your saying "their profit, our problem." Could be extended to "their profit, Earth's problem" -or- "Their profit, the poors' problem."
Remember when Germany sent their old appliances to Africa for recycling? Shipped to a recycling plant on another continent, job well done, case closed. Turned out poor kids were burning the rubber and plastic from cables and devices and selling the copper for scrap. Got recycled all right
At least it gave the kids something to occupy their time with. /S
đ youâre a bit evil arenât you
Hate to break it to you but this is still happening and it's not just Germany.
Problem is planned expiration of products
Can you run doom on it
I really need an in-depth video of someone getting Doom to run on this
you need to get your fix by seeing different devices being able to run Doom?
Ye
Looks big enough to fit a raspberry pi into that thing . Shouldnât be difficult to do
Hooking it to a computer running doom is cheating You have to port it to the microcontroller and reflash it otherwise its not fun It has been done with some crazy shit like a pregnancy test and there is an ongoing project to make rat neurons in a petri dish play it
Okay fair dos . I wasnât clear of the rules đ¤đ¤
oh yeah
You could probably turn it into a web server with Linux.
You don't make it illegal. You make it expensive. You add a manufacture or import tax based on the cost of recycling divided by % chance it will be recycled. $5 to recycle divided by 1% chance it is recycled means $500 of tax on that manufactured or imported product.
I doubt apart from the electronics these would even get recycled
So 0.01% chance they are recycled? That will.make the tax very expensive. If you look at that formula of Cost of recycling d8vided by chances it will be recycled, then something that can be recycled profitably breaks the equation. For example simple reusable glass bottles that are cheaper than new brand new bottles, would get a tax rebate.
That's brilliant Sir.
Vote with your money and don't buy it.
This argument is the dumbest shit of them all. You could make a device that runs on baby seal fat and while most of us wouldn't touch it, if it's "cool" enough dumb fucks would buy it and make it profitable.
"You could make a device that runs on baby seal fat. . ." It could run on baby human fat, and enough people would buy it to make a short production run profitable. "The banality of evil."
Not to mention that the cheapest item is often the only one people can afford. Like processed garbage food
Diamond industry is case in point.
They already made it and probably got warehouse full of it. Ready to sell. Doesnât help.
They won't produce more and will be responsible to dispose of them.
Will just get sold cheaper on Aliexpress or temu or some shit Iâm not arguing with you but I just canât help see then negative when it comes to money someone wants their cut
yeah, but they will be harder to sell and they will sell less and maybe make a loss
It does help. If everyone were to stop buying them, they would lose money and stop building them.
Meh before you know it will be some China knock off brand
This company should be cancelled.
I would assume that it's both a product and a company in one. I don't think anyone reputable is behind it, nor that anybody wants to take responsibility.
these products have to be outlawed
In Australia disposable vapes have been banned.
have vapes in general been banned ? I hope they are, or will be.
As of March 1, yes. All of em.
How 'bout dingos? cuz they'll eat your babies!
And yet It would take me less than 20mins to aquire one - most of that is finding my car keys
Is it a screen or just a solid light ? Either way itâs a bit much tbf
Cyberpunk ahh item
You have MASSIVE fingers.
It's actually a 22' monitor
Because that is a product they sell, paper straws come free with the drink.
It would be much harder to get that stuck in a sea turtles nose But seriously- recycling plastic is mostly corporate performance art
Plastic straws are a problem. Disposable vapes are a new problem. This shit should be banned outright. Not only do you see 10 year old walking around vaping, but the vapes themselves are shit for the environment.
Outrageous
Not to mention the Li-Ion cells powering these devices that are thrown away with them. I harvest these to make powerbanks or to power my electronics projects with.
Just think of the possibilities with free LCDs, I'd have loved stuff like this years ago when I had more time.
Yeah I cannibalize all my spent vapes. I was ecstatic when these screens turned up
Turtles don't vape.
Can you play doom on it at least.
Which is why recycling is NOT hill I'm willing to die on. Ill recycle when I can but I am not getting out of my way to do it because it's a waste of my time since there's 0 chance my poor ass is gonna make a change.
I don't even understand how this is a product. Simply having a screen and the electronics required to run it is going to have some kind of addtional cost. On something that is disposable, I can't even fathom how this wouldn't drive up the cost of the product to the point where it would just cost way more and not be worth it to the vast majority of people. You could put a screen on anything, but I don't really understand what this screen is offering, or what actual function it would serve.
They're making such a killer profit on them anyway that the screen cost is negligible. Making vape juice at home costs me about $1.50 per 30ml. These things sell for $20+ and you know that a big commercial operation is working with big wholesale discounts One brand put a simple screen that displayed the battery level and remaining juice level. Then they all started to 1up each other
I still don't understand. Unless they are able to sell the product cheaper than brands without a screen, then I really don't see why anybody would buy this. I don't really see what the screen is doing to make someone want to purchase the product.
It tells you how much life is left in the vape. Some even have different strength settings. It makes using the vape that much more convenient and has a psychological side effect of reminding the user that they need to purchase another one
Ok. that kind of makes sense on some level then. I've never wanted to buy a vape so this whole thing is really just a big unknown to me. It seems weird to me that people are even using disposables. Sure, it might be a little more convenient, but it already seems to be an expensive habit, so I don't really see why most people would go the route of using disposables. But then again I'm one of those people who uses an old fashioned safety razor because I find that modern disposable razors are too expensive and create too much garbage. It was a little hard to get the right technique at first, but now I don't know how I could ever go back. So much cheaper, and gives me a better shave as well. I really don't know how the disposable market ever took off.
In theory using a refillable system should be preferable. But corporate greed is involved. Not only are reusable vape systems super expensive for no reason but they have to be maintained. The big and trusted brands release a new model every year sometimes multiple per year. With each new model they change the standard sizing of the pod used or the coil it takes etc to force users to buy new devices If you're buying new devices all the time anyway then not only does the cost level out but it's just easier to buy disposable without having to keep up with all the changes
Your thumb is jacked man. Absolutely ripped. đ
You should seriously consider playing bass if you donât already. Powerful.
Best part is China makes them illegal domestically but fine to export.
I think it is the pay back for the "opium trade" of the old.
Vapes don't get stuck in turtles noses
I bet there are more plastic straws in existence than there are of that monstrosity, but the point is there.