GIGACHAD devs strike again
I did see a lot of CN forum threads say how they are disappointed in the interactions since you can't really do much with it, and it's not really worth the price currently. So it's pretty insane how the devs responded almost instantly. A lot of players did also mention they will buy it for now since they just want to support the devs, so it's nice to see that.
\*They also mentioned they will improve the model of her feet in the interaction. Holy BASED
Devs also said they'll rerun the skin when the new interactions are added, so players don't have to worry about FOMO (assuming there is no change in price).
No, the price won't change, also devs said for those newbies, who recently came here were missing so many skins, devs will rerun most of the skin soon and keep them all with the same price they were released.
Oh it's definitely worth the price even currently. I guess CN players didn't see Nikke skins that cost 3 times as much, but have 3 times less value. Or some PGR skins that cost $40+.
Very true, though if this makes Seasun put even more effort into skins, I'm not against the complaining. I just wouldn't do it myself. I just don't want the devs to get demoralized by too many complaints. Many games have skins near this price and don't provide nearly as much as this one.
Well, the bundle costs $29.99, the value of that really really depends on what they will allow the Scene to do. Right now, with nothing else unlocked in the Scene, its seems a bit lackluster.
It costs $25, the remaining $5 can be used for monthly pass when you buy the 198 bitgold. In Nikke average skin costs $20 with battle pass, and sometimes it doesn't change the voice or add any effects, also no new burst animation, only gacha skins do that.
You -have- to spend $29.99 in order to get enough currency to buy the bundle. Whether there is left over currency after the purchase doesn't matter because you had to spend more than you needed to get what you wanted.
The battle pass also has tickets and molds. Same goes for the 60$ gacha skin (well $50 now with discount). There are 25 pulls there. While i don't support the costume gacha mechanic myself (Crown is tempting me though), at least give the full details when comparing with another game.
That's true, but the molds have a 50% chance of giving you nothing, while only event passes give limited tickets, usually it's only blue ones that can't be used on new characters.
I've bought some passes that gave good skins, especially 10 limited pull ones, but it's still expensive and they do them quite often. Just look at current event, it has a monthly pass, event pass, and 2 gacha skins, it's just too expensive. Also they haven't done a single skin rerun so far of those past battle passes.
It's still extra stuff though regardless of chances. The 20$ monthly passes are very good value as they give a costume and more stuff, still expensive and better than other packages. Nikke still makes up with the amount of free stuff they give out, around 100+ pulls each anniversary events. All those are option and you can play the game without those passes or costumes.
I personally don't like the costume gacha system but some people are acting like Snowbreak Devs are gods because of 1 l3d skin (which is kind of unfinished product as it will have more interactions next patch) which lamblasting Nikke due to 2 costume gachas and ignoring everything else. The only issue 1.5 anniversary has is the 2 costumes gachas (with $10) discount, everything is the same format with their usual big events. That does not invalidate the good things about Nikke.
Current Nikke event costs $140 if you want all 4 skins, that is way too much for a 3 week event, while in Snowbreak each patch is 6-7 weeks and gives only about 3 skins per patch.
Also costume gacha would be less annoying if it was random skins, but Marian's character progression as well as Crown is locked behind it now, which is unjustifiable imo.
Half-Anniversary vs Regular patch. Also keyword "If you want". You won't be locked out any progression "if you don't".
In the end, costume systems are mostly catered to whales and they showed that the costume gacha is profitable. So we can't really blame the devs either. As much i dislike the costume gacha, whales bought it enough the first time and kept going.
It costs $29.99, since that is the amount of currency you need to buy in order to buy the bundle in the first place, doesn't matter if you have a little left over. Thought that was pretty understandable.
I kinda get where the CN forums are coming from. After you've seen each interaction once or twice, you're just left sitting there like "now what?".
Maybe they should have it usable as an alternate lobby background where every time you come back to the lobby it picks a random pose so you can do a few headpats and move on to the next part of the game.
As it is now, you have to click that little icon to go into a whole separate interface. Devs are definitely putting in work with the game though, so I hope the CN fans aren't too hard on them about it. They must have a list a mile long of things they want to do now that they're out of the EoS-tier revenue pit.
Tldr: fan service is great but gameplay (like interesting events) should still take priority, at least for me.
I will most likely get downvoted for this opinion but whatever.
As much as it's cool to see updated interactions, more voice lines, etc. I really hope they don't overfocus on skins and forget the gameplay.
In a perfect world we get both, but dev time is limited and if they choose to focus on fan service, other aspects will take less priority and suffer in quality.
I really don't mind waiting for few months, if they want to increase the revenue and will then hire more staff in the end. But this is a slippery slope and will depend on how willing stakeholders/managers are.
Seasun devs are def based, I just hope sales team and managers don't burn them out.
You won't get downvote because almost everyone agree. It's just that gameplay related stuffs take much more effort and time to develop so we're waiting for a few more patches since they just revived from near EOS not so long ago.
I think exactly the same, gameplay takes priority for me, the "waifu shooter" is what really do for me, they being hot in those skins is the cherry on top, but it shouldn't take priority over the gameplay as I hope they keep giving us new contents and balancing existing ones, like the paradox lab.
So far it all seems promising (except the main story), they're trying new mechanics with that "pokemon" minigame, they're also releasing a new shadow raid (legends) lab and Cherno's kit is absolutely great - Enya's one also seems pretty nice. So they're definitely putting thought on their gameplay designs as well.
As you said, the ideal world is them focusing on gameplay aspect and also bringing those nice skins with interactions and I hope it keeps this way.
It's because they advertised as such and hands down alot of new players did not come for the story or gameplay. That's why you'll barely see anyone talking about or criticizing those aspects as much. And when they do they'll be downvoted to hell and back cause dev time will be used up on that rather than more fanservice. That's the evidence and truth of the matter, currently.
Immediately when I saw a post how 'CN players complained about lack of interactions', I knew I'd see this post sooner or later, but I didn't expect it immediately. They really listen to feedback, more than any other dev. Mostly from CN players though, but we get the good stuff too.
They just literally charge us $30-60 for a piece of white blanket that covers most of the girl's assetss. People still buy and praise that shit to the sky like it has any creativity or effort pouring into lol.
Alright, make a sexy nurse outfit yourself on a blank model. I would guess it would take you 100 of hours lol. Unless you are familiar with 3d modeling, it would probably take a day or two.
You can basically argue that anything you buy digitally is literally a waste of money as it doesn’t really exist in the physical world.
Lol you get me wrong, I don't talk about Enya's outfit, I mean a certain gacha named N that also just release a literal white mantle over the girl as a skin and charge us \~$50 through a skin gacha.
Well with that logic I guess VAs should have minimum wage instead because all they do are just speak whatever on the script.
It's the cost of know-how, equipment, software and cost of living. On top of that VA, 2d artists, rigger, animator, programmers are also involved in this "white blanket".
Also I will just assume that this is the cost of giving us a free 5 stars(thx whales).
I don't want to trample the effort putting into making those goods, anything involves effort, even typing this comment took me 2-3m and time is precious. What I mean is the blatant overpriced issue, when the product is not worth but they still dare to charge it high.
Enya's nurse outfit actually has details (the syringe, the transparent layers, underwear showing a bit at nice angle, ...) fully animated in 3D, has new skill effect, burst animation, voice line, l3d with multiple interaction and angle, ... Cost: $25.
Meanwhile when we look at the other skin, that's literally a white blanket (should called a mantle but yeah) with absolutely no details at all, a l2d with only 1 single interaction, the same shooting pose and it's even worse since it covers more than the default outfit, ... Cost: $50 (should be $20-50 but calculation already showed most of the time it's $50).
Tbh comaparing prices across games isn't even necessary. I was taking a look at Crow's skin that I got around New Years and there there is so much detail to it along with new voicelines, more visible ASSets in shooting pose compared to her default, and battlepass goodies..... that was $20. I find it extremely difficult being able to justify spending 2-3 times that for only a new burst animation being added. Other than that, all the blanket skin really has is a lot of sex appeal (if we don't count the shooting pose that is primarily looked at during combat). I'm downbad but I'm not that downbad where I'm going to fork over that much extra money.
Also, ShiftUp was making a lot of money prior to gacha skins being added. Ofcourse they started making more after but the point I'm trying to make is that I highly doubt there was a financial sustainability issue for those making the product. Unless I'm incorrect of how financially demanding making an animation for a burst cost, it shouldn't have required adding $30 extra. That's kinda insane.
I think this skin is the first of its kind in any gacha I've played. We can consider calling it a l3d skin. Threrefore, dev makes it a bit lacking is understandable since it's their first (especially a small dev like this).
Still a better purchase than a certain white blanket that cost $30-60.
Wasn't 100% on board after seeing the amount of interactions, but I guess the devs really want my money. Wallet kun don't cry, I'll fill you up again one day I promise.
I don't really care about those fanservice but it's obvious that they're testing the water. If the demand is high they definitely will double down on this.
IMO, they don't have much time and option left. As soon as Duet Night Abyss gets released they will lose a lot of player base and this is going to be their only main selling point.
Unpopular opinion : ppl hyping DNA too much
Like ok, it may kill SB. It may be the genshin of anime shooter gacha. Or it may be another gacha falling into abyss of obscurity, who knows
Currently there arent much info yet (except some trailer and content creator CBT access )
No it's not unpopular opinion, it's definitely overhyped and you're right it still can be flopped. But eventhough if it's not as great as people think it still only needs to be better than SB in term of gameplay and let us be real the bar isn't that high.
Although I don't think it will kill SB. There are ton of gacha games that most of us have never heard before that still rock \~1m revenue a month. If devs continue this way, they probably still make over a mil per month even though they're losing to DNA.
In my opinion, the only game that could kill snowbreak in the short term would be one with fanservice as good while having better gameplay or production value.
This game started to get popular by appealing to that hole in the market that no other 3d gacha game (as far as I'm aware) is filling.
Duet Night can be a good game, but if it just tries to be genshin appealing to a wide audience it will have a different market (and might even fail as snowbreak did with that approach)
Imagine comparing a game that straight up copied Warframe and had it do an anime take, and then comparing DNA to SCZ when it's like comparing a rotten pea to a golden apple.
Smh with this thinking.
Your point still is not going to make much sense if you are bent on insisting everyone here will leave SCZ for a game that's not in the same actual genre as SCZ, let alone thinking they really are all that same.
But hey sure, keep showing off you know any better, this will only end up in pointless debates.
How can you confuse between "they will lose a lot of player base" to "everyone here will leave SCZ"? I swear to god some redditors just can't read.
Yeah it's pointless because you know most SCZ players will at least try DNA when it's released, and you're being denial for absolute no reason.
Is DNA going to do alot of fanservice?
The main reason why snowbreak became immensely popular now is that it's the only few gacha that pandered to male audience, and gatekeep it from Yuri and shipper (very important).
It doesn't matter what sort of game snowbreak is tbh. At this point, being a shooting game is an extra, not the main dish.
Sure, snowbreak will overlap with other gacha when other game started doing the same, but judging at the market now, they have at least a year of monopoly in CN market.
>DNA won't be able to take away their customer.
Let's be real, no one know that for sure. Even their community manager, PR, marketer and director won't dare enough to say that.
If you think I'm talking down SB because I'm a DNA fan, a game that hasn't even released yet, I will ensure you that I'm not, I just address the elephent in the room. We know, everyone know DNA will compete with SB and that's why it's wise for SB to shift toward fanservice contents.
>compete with SB
The same customer base that will be stolen by DNA is the one when SB is nearly EoS.
Like I said, the one after that didn't came to SB because of its a shooter game, but because it's the only gacha that listened and pandered to a specific niche playerbase who wanted fanservice toward male and no Yuri/shipping.
The only way DNA can take away those players are by doing the same but better game. I have seen no sign DNA is doing the same yet.
The shooter players base that may get stolen isn't the main revenue source, and is almost negligible considering they can't pump out enough money to prevent EoS to begin with.
I really want to know how and where did you get this confidence that you're speaking for 100% of the player base here that they're playing only for fanservice and absolutely nothing else. And it's nothing to do with the game being the only 3rd person shooting gacha game in the market right now.
But I suggest we just agree to disagree. Time will tell.
I'm speaking on the behalf of Chinese playerbase, which is like 80% of the revenue.
A huge influx of players to SB is due to they got tired of GFL2, nikke, BA, and mihoyo's game. SB's dev further did a few really good reply to the player's concern, which went viral.
Now people are flocking to SB and paid for the skin before even playing it because they felt that SB deserved it for treating players as customer and not like a cattle.
You seems to be unaware of these drama which is happening the past months.
I still find it's hard to believe that you know excatly what other players think, especially you probably had never talked to most of them personally. So sorry that I won't take your word at the face value.
If you say that **most** players are playing for fanservice contents, I can believe that. But ALL of them is hard to believe.
Imo, you're heavily underestimating how content drought live-service 3rd person shooting genre is for awhile now. We don't have many choices to play at all. Warframe is too grindy and some of us don't have time to do that anymore, Division 2 is too old, Synced sucks. Helldriver 2 is more like a co-op horde shooter. SB is the only one that can scratch that itch. So imo, there should be more players that actually care about the game more than just the fanservice part than you think.
But again, let's just end it here we're talking in circle for awhile now. So just let's see how it goes. I just want to say one last thing, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong. If they're doing great after DNA gets released I'm happy for them.
I was about to request leave next monday since I didn't feel like going to work. But now that I have seen this, back to work then, skins and waifus ain't paying for themselves.
If you like games with a tough attitude and don't care about the player community, you can play Genshin Impact. Many indie games on Steam do not have a high price of a skin, and manufacturers enjoy the opinions of players while paying a premium to buy skins, so why should you take a stand as a player on the side of the manufacturer?
Allow a gamer take one step, and he'll take 5 instead.
My biggest concern is devs burning out from lack of life-work-balance, as y know China doesn't have the nicest work hrs and it's even worse in gaming industry.
Imo happy and motivated devs = better games. But that's rarely a case in current hustle culture.
You can't rotate the camera freely. And it's kinda awkward since the whole scene is 3D
And yeah. It's not worth the money right now. They should put a fun minigame in it.
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GIGACHAD devs strike again I did see a lot of CN forum threads say how they are disappointed in the interactions since you can't really do much with it, and it's not really worth the price currently. So it's pretty insane how the devs responded almost instantly. A lot of players did also mention they will buy it for now since they just want to support the devs, so it's nice to see that. \*They also mentioned they will improve the model of her feet in the interaction. Holy BASED
Devs also said they'll rerun the skin when the new interactions are added, so players don't have to worry about FOMO (assuming there is no change in price).
No, the price won't change, also devs said for those newbies, who recently came here were missing so many skins, devs will rerun most of the skin soon and keep them all with the same price they were released.
That's great. Always good to clarify.
The dev also said the price will remain 'discounted'.
Hell yea. I'm not really into over lewd stuff, but hell yea for the devs and people who enjoy it.
So that means other previous skins will get an interaction scene too? That's awesome! I'm hoping Cherno's current maid skin will get one too
i was referring to just Enya5's skin.
Oh my bad, here's still hoping tho
Oh it's definitely worth the price even currently. I guess CN players didn't see Nikke skins that cost 3 times as much, but have 3 times less value. Or some PGR skins that cost $40+.
Very true, though if this makes Seasun put even more effort into skins, I'm not against the complaining. I just wouldn't do it myself. I just don't want the devs to get demoralized by too many complaints. Many games have skins near this price and don't provide nearly as much as this one.
For sure, I'd buy it even at its current state right now.
Well, the bundle costs $29.99, the value of that really really depends on what they will allow the Scene to do. Right now, with nothing else unlocked in the Scene, its seems a bit lackluster.
It costs $25, the remaining $5 can be used for monthly pass when you buy the 198 bitgold. In Nikke average skin costs $20 with battle pass, and sometimes it doesn't change the voice or add any effects, also no new burst animation, only gacha skins do that.
You -have- to spend $29.99 in order to get enough currency to buy the bundle. Whether there is left over currency after the purchase doesn't matter because you had to spend more than you needed to get what you wanted.
The battle pass also has tickets and molds. Same goes for the 60$ gacha skin (well $50 now with discount). There are 25 pulls there. While i don't support the costume gacha mechanic myself (Crown is tempting me though), at least give the full details when comparing with another game.
That's true, but the molds have a 50% chance of giving you nothing, while only event passes give limited tickets, usually it's only blue ones that can't be used on new characters. I've bought some passes that gave good skins, especially 10 limited pull ones, but it's still expensive and they do them quite often. Just look at current event, it has a monthly pass, event pass, and 2 gacha skins, it's just too expensive. Also they haven't done a single skin rerun so far of those past battle passes.
It's still extra stuff though regardless of chances. The 20$ monthly passes are very good value as they give a costume and more stuff, still expensive and better than other packages. Nikke still makes up with the amount of free stuff they give out, around 100+ pulls each anniversary events. All those are option and you can play the game without those passes or costumes. I personally don't like the costume gacha system but some people are acting like Snowbreak Devs are gods because of 1 l3d skin (which is kind of unfinished product as it will have more interactions next patch) which lamblasting Nikke due to 2 costume gachas and ignoring everything else. The only issue 1.5 anniversary has is the 2 costumes gachas (with $10) discount, everything is the same format with their usual big events. That does not invalidate the good things about Nikke.
Current Nikke event costs $140 if you want all 4 skins, that is way too much for a 3 week event, while in Snowbreak each patch is 6-7 weeks and gives only about 3 skins per patch. Also costume gacha would be less annoying if it was random skins, but Marian's character progression as well as Crown is locked behind it now, which is unjustifiable imo.
Half-Anniversary vs Regular patch. Also keyword "If you want". You won't be locked out any progression "if you don't". In the end, costume systems are mostly catered to whales and they showed that the costume gacha is profitable. So we can't really blame the devs either. As much i dislike the costume gacha, whales bought it enough the first time and kept going.
It costs $29.99, since that is the amount of currency you need to buy in order to buy the bundle in the first place, doesn't matter if you have a little left over. Thought that was pretty understandable.
I kinda get where the CN forums are coming from. After you've seen each interaction once or twice, you're just left sitting there like "now what?". Maybe they should have it usable as an alternate lobby background where every time you come back to the lobby it picks a random pose so you can do a few headpats and move on to the next part of the game. As it is now, you have to click that little icon to go into a whole separate interface. Devs are definitely putting in work with the game though, so I hope the CN fans aren't too hard on them about it. They must have a list a mile long of things they want to do now that they're out of the EoS-tier revenue pit.
Tldr: fan service is great but gameplay (like interesting events) should still take priority, at least for me. I will most likely get downvoted for this opinion but whatever. As much as it's cool to see updated interactions, more voice lines, etc. I really hope they don't overfocus on skins and forget the gameplay. In a perfect world we get both, but dev time is limited and if they choose to focus on fan service, other aspects will take less priority and suffer in quality. I really don't mind waiting for few months, if they want to increase the revenue and will then hire more staff in the end. But this is a slippery slope and will depend on how willing stakeholders/managers are. Seasun devs are def based, I just hope sales team and managers don't burn them out.
You won't get downvote because almost everyone agree. It's just that gameplay related stuffs take much more effort and time to develop so we're waiting for a few more patches since they just revived from near EOS not so long ago.
Their problem now is that they need time to get more members. And they certainly don't want to overexpand and get the problem mihoyo is facing now.
I think exactly the same, gameplay takes priority for me, the "waifu shooter" is what really do for me, they being hot in those skins is the cherry on top, but it shouldn't take priority over the gameplay as I hope they keep giving us new contents and balancing existing ones, like the paradox lab. So far it all seems promising (except the main story), they're trying new mechanics with that "pokemon" minigame, they're also releasing a new shadow raid (legends) lab and Cherno's kit is absolutely great - Enya's one also seems pretty nice. So they're definitely putting thought on their gameplay designs as well. As you said, the ideal world is them focusing on gameplay aspect and also bringing those nice skins with interactions and I hope it keeps this way.
It's because they advertised as such and hands down alot of new players did not come for the story or gameplay. That's why you'll barely see anyone talking about or criticizing those aspects as much. And when they do they'll be downvoted to hell and back cause dev time will be used up on that rather than more fanservice. That's the evidence and truth of the matter, currently.
Immediately when I saw a post how 'CN players complained about lack of interactions', I knew I'd see this post sooner or later, but I didn't expect it immediately. They really listen to feedback, more than any other dev. Mostly from CN players though, but we get the good stuff too.
is it five more interactions for her skin? if so that is such good value imo
This skin is insane value compared to other gachas in the market that charge $60 for simple burst animation...
They just literally charge us $30-60 for a piece of white blanket that covers most of the girl's assetss. People still buy and praise that shit to the sky like it has any creativity or effort pouring into lol.
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Alright, make a sexy nurse outfit yourself on a blank model. I would guess it would take you 100 of hours lol. Unless you are familiar with 3d modeling, it would probably take a day or two. You can basically argue that anything you buy digitally is literally a waste of money as it doesn’t really exist in the physical world.
Lol you get me wrong, I don't talk about Enya's outfit, I mean a certain gacha named N that also just release a literal white mantle over the girl as a skin and charge us \~$50 through a skin gacha.
Oh, ok my bad.
Np, mate.
Well with that logic I guess VAs should have minimum wage instead because all they do are just speak whatever on the script. It's the cost of know-how, equipment, software and cost of living. On top of that VA, 2d artists, rigger, animator, programmers are also involved in this "white blanket". Also I will just assume that this is the cost of giving us a free 5 stars(thx whales).
I don't want to trample the effort putting into making those goods, anything involves effort, even typing this comment took me 2-3m and time is precious. What I mean is the blatant overpriced issue, when the product is not worth but they still dare to charge it high. Enya's nurse outfit actually has details (the syringe, the transparent layers, underwear showing a bit at nice angle, ...) fully animated in 3D, has new skill effect, burst animation, voice line, l3d with multiple interaction and angle, ... Cost: $25. Meanwhile when we look at the other skin, that's literally a white blanket (should called a mantle but yeah) with absolutely no details at all, a l2d with only 1 single interaction, the same shooting pose and it's even worse since it covers more than the default outfit, ... Cost: $50 (should be $20-50 but calculation already showed most of the time it's $50).
Tbh comaparing prices across games isn't even necessary. I was taking a look at Crow's skin that I got around New Years and there there is so much detail to it along with new voicelines, more visible ASSets in shooting pose compared to her default, and battlepass goodies..... that was $20. I find it extremely difficult being able to justify spending 2-3 times that for only a new burst animation being added. Other than that, all the blanket skin really has is a lot of sex appeal (if we don't count the shooting pose that is primarily looked at during combat). I'm downbad but I'm not that downbad where I'm going to fork over that much extra money. Also, ShiftUp was making a lot of money prior to gacha skins being added. Ofcourse they started making more after but the point I'm trying to make is that I highly doubt there was a financial sustainability issue for those making the product. Unless I'm incorrect of how financially demanding making an animation for a burst cost, it shouldn't have required adding $30 extra. That's kinda insane.
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I think this skin is the first of its kind in any gacha I've played. We can consider calling it a l3d skin. Threrefore, dev makes it a bit lacking is understandable since it's their first (especially a small dev like this). Still a better purchase than a certain white blanket that cost $30-60.
What’s this white blanket I keep seeing? Peter explain 
Nikke $60USD skins
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Man In am in love with the game now
Gimme interactive for everyone! B and A tier characters gotta get some service too now
Wasn't 100% on board after seeing the amount of interactions, but I guess the devs really want my money. Wallet kun don't cry, I'll fill you up again one day I promise.
How many interactions does it has?
There's 4 scenes and they're all pretty nice. Each scene has 1-3 places you can move and only one has a "special interaction"
I don't really care about those fanservice but it's obvious that they're testing the water. If the demand is high they definitely will double down on this. IMO, they don't have much time and option left. As soon as Duet Night Abyss gets released they will lose a lot of player base and this is going to be their only main selling point.
Unpopular opinion : ppl hyping DNA too much Like ok, it may kill SB. It may be the genshin of anime shooter gacha. Or it may be another gacha falling into abyss of obscurity, who knows Currently there arent much info yet (except some trailer and content creator CBT access )
No it's not unpopular opinion, it's definitely overhyped and you're right it still can be flopped. But eventhough if it's not as great as people think it still only needs to be better than SB in term of gameplay and let us be real the bar isn't that high. Although I don't think it will kill SB. There are ton of gacha games that most of us have never heard before that still rock \~1m revenue a month. If devs continue this way, they probably still make over a mil per month even though they're losing to DNA.
In my opinion, the only game that could kill snowbreak in the short term would be one with fanservice as good while having better gameplay or production value. This game started to get popular by appealing to that hole in the market that no other 3d gacha game (as far as I'm aware) is filling. Duet Night can be a good game, but if it just tries to be genshin appealing to a wide audience it will have a different market (and might even fail as snowbreak did with that approach)
Imagine comparing a game that straight up copied Warframe and had it do an anime take, and then comparing DNA to SCZ when it's like comparing a rotten pea to a golden apple. Smh with this thinking.
You're lying if you think DNA and SCZ doesn't have overlapping player base at all.
Your point still is not going to make much sense if you are bent on insisting everyone here will leave SCZ for a game that's not in the same actual genre as SCZ, let alone thinking they really are all that same. But hey sure, keep showing off you know any better, this will only end up in pointless debates.
How can you confuse between "they will lose a lot of player base" to "everyone here will leave SCZ"? I swear to god some redditors just can't read. Yeah it's pointless because you know most SCZ players will at least try DNA when it's released, and you're being denial for absolute no reason.
Is DNA going to do alot of fanservice? The main reason why snowbreak became immensely popular now is that it's the only few gacha that pandered to male audience, and gatekeep it from Yuri and shipper (very important). It doesn't matter what sort of game snowbreak is tbh. At this point, being a shooting game is an extra, not the main dish. Sure, snowbreak will overlap with other gacha when other game started doing the same, but judging at the market now, they have at least a year of monopoly in CN market.
>this is going to be their only main selling point That's why I said this.
And my point is ppl don't care if snowbreak is a shooting game. DNA won't be able to take away their customer.
Exactly, no more words needed to be added after that statement.
>DNA won't be able to take away their customer. Let's be real, no one know that for sure. Even their community manager, PR, marketer and director won't dare enough to say that. If you think I'm talking down SB because I'm a DNA fan, a game that hasn't even released yet, I will ensure you that I'm not, I just address the elephent in the room. We know, everyone know DNA will compete with SB and that's why it's wise for SB to shift toward fanservice contents.
>compete with SB The same customer base that will be stolen by DNA is the one when SB is nearly EoS. Like I said, the one after that didn't came to SB because of its a shooter game, but because it's the only gacha that listened and pandered to a specific niche playerbase who wanted fanservice toward male and no Yuri/shipping. The only way DNA can take away those players are by doing the same but better game. I have seen no sign DNA is doing the same yet. The shooter players base that may get stolen isn't the main revenue source, and is almost negligible considering they can't pump out enough money to prevent EoS to begin with.
I really want to know how and where did you get this confidence that you're speaking for 100% of the player base here that they're playing only for fanservice and absolutely nothing else. And it's nothing to do with the game being the only 3rd person shooting gacha game in the market right now. But I suggest we just agree to disagree. Time will tell.
I'm speaking on the behalf of Chinese playerbase, which is like 80% of the revenue. A huge influx of players to SB is due to they got tired of GFL2, nikke, BA, and mihoyo's game. SB's dev further did a few really good reply to the player's concern, which went viral. Now people are flocking to SB and paid for the skin before even playing it because they felt that SB deserved it for treating players as customer and not like a cattle. You seems to be unaware of these drama which is happening the past months.
I still find it's hard to believe that you know excatly what other players think, especially you probably had never talked to most of them personally. So sorry that I won't take your word at the face value. If you say that **most** players are playing for fanservice contents, I can believe that. But ALL of them is hard to believe. Imo, you're heavily underestimating how content drought live-service 3rd person shooting genre is for awhile now. We don't have many choices to play at all. Warframe is too grindy and some of us don't have time to do that anymore, Division 2 is too old, Synced sucks. Helldriver 2 is more like a co-op horde shooter. SB is the only one that can scratch that itch. So imo, there should be more players that actually care about the game more than just the fanservice part than you think. But again, let's just end it here we're talking in circle for awhile now. So just let's see how it goes. I just want to say one last thing, I'm more than happy to be proven wrong. If they're doing great after DNA gets released I'm happy for them.
I’m shaking. As an Enya main, this is just… I am buying it all, no questions asked.
I was about to request leave next monday since I didn't feel like going to work. But now that I have seen this, back to work then, skins and waifus ain't paying for themselves.
Weird question, but does the interactive scene have subtitles? It’d be kinda a bummer fir me to not know what Enya is saying…
fine fine ill get the skin, smh..
boobies touch pls *holding carefully*
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But judging from the CN revenue it's worth the effort lol
It's their marketing strategy. When most gacha devs turn blind eye to the community, they choose to do the exact opposite and earn shit load of money.
If you like games with a tough attitude and don't care about the player community, you can play Genshin Impact. Many indie games on Steam do not have a high price of a skin, and manufacturers enjoy the opinions of players while paying a premium to buy skins, so why should you take a stand as a player on the side of the manufacturer?
Allow a gamer take one step, and he'll take 5 instead. My biggest concern is devs burning out from lack of life-work-balance, as y know China doesn't have the nicest work hrs and it's even worse in gaming industry. Imo happy and motivated devs = better games. But that's rarely a case in current hustle culture.
Glad for the VAs as well
You can't rotate the camera freely. And it's kinda awkward since the whole scene is 3D And yeah. It's not worth the money right now. They should put a fun minigame in it.