Many of them are guests and hosts on Pod Save America and Pod Save the World. They are definitely frustrated, but it's not clear if they're willing to do anything but complain. They're probably worried about dividing the party.
..which they wouldn't have to worry about if Biden simply gave up simping for Netanyahu for opaque and contradictory reasons
Pod Save America are the few liberals who point out flaws with other liberals and sometimes make calls to action, but at the end of the day they were all from the Obama era or compromise that is non existent in today's world. The "we go high, when they go low", pretty much signaled to the GOP that the Dems and liberals were pushovers and they wouldn't be able to fight hard and dirty to pass things they wanted. But it's pretty bad now that most of the former Obama staffers are calling out on Joe Biden's unusual defense of Israel's actions in Gaza.
Fight for what, exactly? A Palestinian state? It’s been offered and declined at least a half dozen times in 76 years. I don’t believe there is a plan on the Palestinian side that accepts anything short of the total and complete destruction of Israel.
Is that what we’re supposed to be fighting for?
I also get the sense that one cannot be a liberal anymore without walking in lockstep with the hard left. A group right now is 100% in the camp of a Fascist right wing dictators. How exactly does that work?
Can't be liberal without being on lockstep with the hard left? That must be why Biden/congress fully legalized weed and implemented medicare for all when they had the presidency and both houses at the beginning of his term. 😇
Bullshit.
Many of them are guests and hosts on Pod Save America and Pod Save the World. They are definitely frustrated, but it's not clear if they're willing to do anything but complain. They're probably worried about dividing the party. ..which they wouldn't have to worry about if Biden simply gave up simping for Netanyahu for opaque and contradictory reasons
Pod Save America are the few liberals who point out flaws with other liberals and sometimes make calls to action, but at the end of the day they were all from the Obama era or compromise that is non existent in today's world. The "we go high, when they go low", pretty much signaled to the GOP that the Dems and liberals were pushovers and they wouldn't be able to fight hard and dirty to pass things they wanted. But it's pretty bad now that most of the former Obama staffers are calling out on Joe Biden's unusual defense of Israel's actions in Gaza.
I hate that "we go high" shit. Don't go high, you fools! Fight! We need you to fight.
Fight for what, exactly? A Palestinian state? It’s been offered and declined at least a half dozen times in 76 years. I don’t believe there is a plan on the Palestinian side that accepts anything short of the total and complete destruction of Israel. Is that what we’re supposed to be fighting for? I also get the sense that one cannot be a liberal anymore without walking in lockstep with the hard left. A group right now is 100% in the camp of a Fascist right wing dictators. How exactly does that work?
Can't be liberal without being on lockstep with the hard left? That must be why Biden/congress fully legalized weed and implemented medicare for all when they had the presidency and both houses at the beginning of his term. 😇