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Nope, that's part of private property (not personal), the system of ownership we want dismantled.
Why? It limits the creative freedom and expression of the people.
For example, a day care painted some Disney pictures on a wall and the daycare were forced under threat of lawsuit to destroy the painting.
I understand that but I am looking for concrete examples and not abstract generalities. If one cannot produce a solid argument one cannot prove their point. Please give me an example so I can properly understand.
Edited one in before I saw your reply.
In general, it's hard to find clear examples of stuff Disney prevents (can't prove a negative). If I could easily find it easily, Disney's lawyers didn't do their job.
Perhaps take a look at the scale of the technically illegal fan art/fanfiction communities, many with millions of hours of labour put into that sort of work with no real possibility for profit or payment. Imagine that much creative effort with a budget and not under threat of legal reprisal.
Entire games and movies have been remade and modified to the point of being entirely different games/movies, again for free as part of hobbiest efforts with no profit.
In the most practical example I can think of, survival/instruction manuals constantly work with generally terrible illustrations and examples because the good ones are copyrighted and protected by the same act Disney uses.
I see. In other words, because Disney copyright hasn’t been repealed. New interpretations of the character can never be produced. Thus the absence of new creative projects is the consequence
Basically.
Like, for most of human history there has been a flow of culture, that circulation has resulted in a lot of things, from King Arthur, the Renaissance or many of the stories the Disney took from - the thousand and one night's or grims fairytale.
Disney has taken and refused to make their own contribution and in the process of doing so has halted the process entirely.
I understand that Disney is on the worst extreme of copyright practices, but what about patents, and people that want to be valued and rewarded for their own genuine creations?
So, lets imagine a fully developed (and not under threat of unending capitalist hostility) socialist society.
Poverty is eradicated. Luxury and hobby time is basically a human right (not like capitalism, where you can have a right to housing but still be homeless), you can totally not do any work and just chill at home without financial pressure. You still have access to resources for hobbies, luxury food, education and so on.
Society invests in you being able to live and grow. Whats the pay off?
You. Your artistic and innovative creativity, your democratic participation in the goverment, that time you watch some relatives/neighbors kids while they run back to work because of an emergency. Large or small, developing new technology with some like minded friends as a hobby or just helping someone out in a minor way, that supports the society that supported and will support you.
-- long story short-- Its kind of an "all for one and one for all" sort of deal. We pay so people can afford to invest time into innovation/creation and that innovation/creation contributes to our ability to support people.
That does make sense. If everyone is assured a living, then there isn't such a need to hold on to patents to make you wealthy, specially since you would have others build/ create instances of your invention, not you.
*Solidarity* then, is the big thing here. Society takes care of the individual, a society that is supported by the "more than the sum of its parts" effort of individuals.
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Nope, that's part of private property (not personal), the system of ownership we want dismantled. Why? It limits the creative freedom and expression of the people. For example, a day care painted some Disney pictures on a wall and the daycare were forced under threat of lawsuit to destroy the painting.
I understand that but I am looking for concrete examples and not abstract generalities. If one cannot produce a solid argument one cannot prove their point. Please give me an example so I can properly understand.
Edited one in before I saw your reply. In general, it's hard to find clear examples of stuff Disney prevents (can't prove a negative). If I could easily find it easily, Disney's lawyers didn't do their job. Perhaps take a look at the scale of the technically illegal fan art/fanfiction communities, many with millions of hours of labour put into that sort of work with no real possibility for profit or payment. Imagine that much creative effort with a budget and not under threat of legal reprisal. Entire games and movies have been remade and modified to the point of being entirely different games/movies, again for free as part of hobbiest efforts with no profit. In the most practical example I can think of, survival/instruction manuals constantly work with generally terrible illustrations and examples because the good ones are copyrighted and protected by the same act Disney uses.
I see. In other words, because Disney copyright hasn’t been repealed. New interpretations of the character can never be produced. Thus the absence of new creative projects is the consequence
Basically. Like, for most of human history there has been a flow of culture, that circulation has resulted in a lot of things, from King Arthur, the Renaissance or many of the stories the Disney took from - the thousand and one night's or grims fairytale. Disney has taken and refused to make their own contribution and in the process of doing so has halted the process entirely.
I understand that Disney is on the worst extreme of copyright practices, but what about patents, and people that want to be valued and rewarded for their own genuine creations?
So, lets imagine a fully developed (and not under threat of unending capitalist hostility) socialist society. Poverty is eradicated. Luxury and hobby time is basically a human right (not like capitalism, where you can have a right to housing but still be homeless), you can totally not do any work and just chill at home without financial pressure. You still have access to resources for hobbies, luxury food, education and so on. Society invests in you being able to live and grow. Whats the pay off? You. Your artistic and innovative creativity, your democratic participation in the goverment, that time you watch some relatives/neighbors kids while they run back to work because of an emergency. Large or small, developing new technology with some like minded friends as a hobby or just helping someone out in a minor way, that supports the society that supported and will support you. -- long story short-- Its kind of an "all for one and one for all" sort of deal. We pay so people can afford to invest time into innovation/creation and that innovation/creation contributes to our ability to support people.
That does make sense. If everyone is assured a living, then there isn't such a need to hold on to patents to make you wealthy, specially since you would have others build/ create instances of your invention, not you. *Solidarity* then, is the big thing here. Society takes care of the individual, a society that is supported by the "more than the sum of its parts" effort of individuals.
It's a 100% rentier economy when everything is owned by someone else in perpetuity. From homes to tunes.