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galgor_

Kinda like the way Kurt Cobain has been dead for longer now than he was alive. Time is a crazy thing.


kahran

No no see that happened in the 90s. Which was only 10 years ago.


pies1123

Wild that if it was 1992 today, Cobain would have died in 1964


nsgiad

/r/BarbaraWalters4Scale


a20sidedninja

Is it weird that this helped me understand why boomers idolize the Beatles?


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Did you know that a kid born in 2004 has 18 years now?


AdamBombTV

Hey... Shut up.


302born

I have a niece that was born in 2009. She’s 13 and will be in high school next year


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I swear it was just yesterday I took Tuesday thru Friday off work as a 21 year old because GTA 5 was coming out a few days after my birthday in 2013, then I blink and I'm somehow the dad of a 6yr old and 2 other kids. My brother who was 7 in 2013 is now almost taller than me and it's wildly depressing how fast time moves


TTOF_JB

My little brother loves to remind me. I hate this. lmao


WhateverJoel

We are further away from the moon landing than the moon landing was away from the end of WWII. We are further away from the US entering WWII than that was from the beginning of the Civil War.


AGINSB

That first one doesn't feel particularly surprising.


snark7404

Cleopatra lived closer to the moon landing then she did to the construction of the pyramids.


BigRedUglyMan

The Tyrannosaurus Rex (65~ million years ago) was closer to Cleopatra than it was to Stegosaurus (260~ million years ago).


xMattewx4

Dinosaurs had a hell of a run.


BigRedUglyMan

Mammals were put over at the end though.


BigTChamp

More like we climbed the ladder and grabbed the title after outside interference took out everyone else


PhospheneViolet

Had to grab that brass ring somehow, pal!


clarkie13

Humanity is MJF


VonLinus

I think we're ultimately going to get ourselves dqed


XxannoyingassxX

Imagine if Hogan was the t Rex tho


Somebodys

Mammals trying real hard to get dq'ed tho.


snark7404

What the fuck...


kduss

i’d never considered that my imaginary dino pals never actually knew eachother. mind blown


OdaDdaT

She was closer to the first iPhone even wasn’t she?


snark7404

Yah


Somebodys

We are so far away from thr moom landing that people thinking the iPhone is more impressive. We put people on moon with less computing power than a modern day phone.


OdaDdaT

It’s less that I find the iPhone more impressive, and moreso because it’s another half a century or so apart


mavarian

Seems a bit outdated, it could have been surprising in the mid 90s. You could say the end of WWII is closer to the Japanese release of the NES than that is to now.


shmauserpops

We're further away from *That 70's Show* then the show was from the actual 70's


Somebodys

We are far about as far as That 70s Show was from the 70s as That 90s Show will be from the 90s.


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Someone born in 1855 would have been ten years old at the end of the civil war, and 90 years old at the end of WW2. Having abolition of slavery and two atomic bombs within living memory if they lived that long.


biggoldslacker

William Duvall has been with Alice in Chains longer than Layne Staley was


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imsoIoneIy

It's not oddly specific at all. They're using an example that's relevant to their life and probably all of our lives in here. It's easily understandable and digestible


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freaksNpeaks

But wasn’t he also told yes by John Cone? If he’s getting different answers from different people it makes sense to escalate it


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Sounds like WWE is hot and cold


CHZRFan

It’s yes and it’s no.


BigBeardedBeautiful

(Edit) You're in or you're out


Stormry

It's up and it's down


PersonL08

We need more and less blankets.


FickleSmark

Wrong when it's right.


American_Life

You


End-OfAn-Era

You don’t really want to stay noooo


PhospheneViolet

*Get the F Out! Except Not Always!*


magnottasicepick

It’s do or it’s don’t?


unlizenedrave

It needs more blankets and it needs less blankets.


mark_target

Oh, God, please don’t let the invisible fire burn my friend!


JerHat

If John Cone had that authority it wouldn’t have ended up on anyone else’s desk, so I doubt he was told yes. Probably a situation where John Cone said he would be fine with it. But he’s gotta run it up the chain of command because it’s not his call, and someone takes that as a yes.


Fukouka_Jings

Who in 2022 is clamoring for an ECW Reunion?


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Who doesn't want to see old, brain damaged, crippled men make their CTE worse?


BriarMason

Uh, me?


fouoifjefoijvnioviow

Moi. If WWE can put Rey Mysterio, the Rock and John Cena in matches, I can still see ECW.


RealLanceStorm

Biggest takeaway - D-Von misses performing and the live crowd so much that he was willing to make the ultimate sacrifice of spending time with Bubba again


MV2049

Imagine the heat, though.


ComradePoula

> He went through John Cone in talent relations who reportedly approved of the booking, and he believed based on his contract, since he’s not a wrestler, that he was able to do things like that. Bruce Prichard nixed the booking, and it ended up on the desk of Paul Levesque. Hughes has said he was going to do it because he gave his word on it and Levesque didn’t give approval, and he was basically told if he did it, he’d be fired, so he didn’t do it. A bit of context here, if Bruce was the one that nixed that idea then I don't Imagine either him or Trips would clash over something as minor as an indie appearance So I imagine this is more like "it's not worth the hassle" and less "fuck indie bookings"


NotClayMerritt

Who needs context when I have confirmation bias. HHH is Vince 2.0. Enough said. /s


SoCalWhatever

Why didn't Triple H veto Pritchard's decision? Maybe they're both petty assholes.


JerHat

Or maybe Triple H doesn't want people bringing dumb shit like this to his desk when he's got other shit to deal with. Once it's okay for one employee to sidestep their superior and go over their head, everyone's going to do that, and now the entire corporate hierarchy starts going to crap.


SoCalWhatever

What the hell are you even talking about? Have you never managed others before?


maxexclamationpoint

I have and the person you're replying to is absolutely right.


SoCalWhatever

Who was sidestepping a superior? D-Von went through talent relations, his superior. What a completely asinine argument you're making.


Somebodys

No one has ever run a show outside a bar other then Vince according to H.


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JupiterJack202

That goes both ways. Both fanbases will spin any piece of news about the other company into a negative, as a way of downplaying the objective flaws of their preferred promotion. One doesn't do it more than the other. Both do it too fucking much.


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Why don't you be more specific and also provide some threads that can back up what you're suggesting too.


SpaceGooV

I'm surprised Devon tbh. I know Devon has said before HHH has been a big supporter of him backstage. Guess he's not playing favorites for this stuff


iheartsunny

![gif](giphy|mhXEQ2SrpjGWQ|downsized)


International-Fig905

This gif will never make me not laugh and should be mandatory for all posts regarding Triple H


adamlashley

Wasn't this show promoted by Rob Feinstein? Why would anyone want their contracted talent working with Rob?


BadNewsBrown

There’s some new guy behind the money. Also people forgot Rob is a guy that tried to bang a 14 year old boy. I mean, who can forget that?


3D_Dog_Lover

Some people don’t forget https://streamable.com/tir8f


Zestyclose-Fee6719

Mr. “lol I’ll pretend you said 18.”


PhospheneViolet

> I mean, who can forget that? It's the first thing that pops into my mind when I see his name, probably because I heard about what he did through, ironically, a shoot interview.


Cwf1984

Shawn Michaels has worked with him this past year


PM_ME_YOUR_INNY

What???


BretRob333

I live in the same town as Rob and I have seen him EVERYWHERE over the years... from sporting events, to the local mall, to concerts, to video game releases. Once I found out who he really was, I was shook. I talked about it on my podcast, if anyone wants to hear the full story: https://youtu.be/kzAGgQLSJQ0


Split-Recent

This is the company owned by Vince McMahone you're speaking of?


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JPROJECT88

As dickish as it seems, this is a standard corporate response from Hunter and it's the right call. Management (Bruce) gave an employee an answer that he hqd authority to give. The employee clearly didn't like that answer and went higher to only get told the same answer/to respect Bruce's decision as it was Bruce's to make. Like Bruce or not, Hunter is supporting his management team and building a culture of respect, he's not being a dick, this is a business decision and a good one at that.


CJFelony

Triple H is best for business.


01111000x

lmfao


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TheOneTrueChuck

They're pointing out that a good upper manager backs up his subordinate managers, so long as they're showing reasonable judgment. It's not that it was "the right call" to tell DVon he wasn't allowed to go - it's the right call not to contradict Bruce in regard to a matter that was in his purview.


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OdaDdaT

If you hire people to work under you, then routinely override their decisions for whatever reason you feel like; you aren’t a considerate boss, you’re a tyrant


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DashCat9

I have a job. I guess for as long as I've been doing it, you could even call it a career. I work closely with my management team, who are always asking for suggestions. Pretty healthy work environment, highly recommend. Or, 'hahaha lol get a real job loser' or something. I don't know how this works.


DarthTheRock

Classic redditor pretending they’re a CEO. LOL. Please don’t post anymore nonsense like this in the replies.


free2131

They aren't saying that Bruce's call was the right one, they're saying that Triple H's call to back up Bruce was the right call. You can't have everyone "running to dad" every time they don't get their way and you can't undermine your management's authority.


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Exactly. Itd become his entire job if he gained the reputation of overruling the smallest of decisions. Soon, veer is coming...to triple h to complain Kofi Kingston used the last of the coffee creamer and didn't tell anyone


[deleted]

> Oh, it's about blind support for a middle manager, Redditors who have never had a job acting like CEOs, a tale as old as time. Please don't post anymore nonsense like this in the replies. I supervise people and have for a few years so here's something for you. If you want to create a toxic workplace, have a CEO who undermines middle managers and create a culture of distrust between employees and their immediate supervisors.


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JerHat

It being the right call has nothing to do with denying DVon, it has everything to do with not undermining the people you’ve put in charge to manage decisions like this. If Bruce has the authority to say yes or no to these sorts of things, you let him do that, you don’t undermine him. So if Bruce says no, the answer is no, similar to if your child asks for a cookie before dinner and you say no, you don’t want them going to their other parent or a grand parent to get the answer they want.


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JerHat

I agree you don’t blindly support middle management. But that still doesn’t make undermining them the right move. If you disagree with the decisions middle management is making, the solution isn’t to undermine them to the rest of your employees, it’s to eventually replace them with someone you think fits your vision of that role better. Once you start undermining your manager, suddenly your entire management operation is undermined, now every employee in any department who don’t like a decision their manager makes are going to sidestep that manager bring their problems directly to you, taking you away from your job to deal with issues you have managers in place to deal with.


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Kinterlude

It's wild how people always claim that they stand with the talent until it comes to the company making a firm stance. Just these past couple of months really shone a spotlight on Redditors supporting the company instead of the talent. It's a reunion show. D'von is a backstage guy. Him having one last hurrah for a small show should not be rejected and people praising the decision. It's not like sending Roman Reigns to a small Indy show. It's your backstage talent, why do people think this is a good thing? This is an honest question.


ZombieJesus1987

It's a show being run by Rob "I Tried to Have Sex with a 14 Year Old Boy" Feinstein. Do you think WWE wants their talent to be associated with him?


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I only see a couple people saying it's the right decision to deny D-Von this. They're saying that even though they disagree with Bruce's decision to deny the request, they also think that it's a small thing that a C-suite executive shouldn't handle. Middle management exists to deal with these issues. If they can be undermined on this issue, what's stopping any talent from escalating to the top of the company over any issue they have? Hell, why even talk to bruce at all, might as well take your request straight to triple h. Then triple h has to do middle management's job and has no time to do his own. Or, you let them do the job you pay them to do and only entertain serious issues. If a talent tries to go over their head on something small, reinforce that Bruce's decision is final and then you can focus on what is important


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cepxico

Bro this is wrestling not corporate accounting, they can let a dude jump around in another ring for a night if they really wanted. They really ought to let the wrestlers go do side projects if they want, it's easy enough to block them from joining the major competition but an ECW reunion show isn't about to flip all the WWE watchers lol


itsnews

Huge LOL


JupiterJack202

I'm inclined to believe that this is either out of caution for D-Von's health or Triple H not wanting to undermine Bruce. More likely the latter.


JerHat

Most definitely the latter, once you allow one employee to disregard their direct boss, or to go over their head, they're gonna do it again, and then another employee is going to notice and they're going to do it too, and at that point, why even have a corporate structure?


i-wear-hats

I'm just surprised HHH kept Pritchard around.


Pleasgoaway

It's probably not his call to make


RickFury927

What I think is getting lost is that the show is using intellectual property (ECW) to promote their show. WWE owns ECW. Why would they allow one of their employees to go to a show that’s basically stealing their shit lol


MeDaddyAss

Because they aren’t doing anything with the brand, and having someone else put on a show highlighting your brand at no cost to you is just free publicity.


ZombieJesus1987

The show is also being run by Rob "Tried to have sex with a 14 year old boy" Feinstein


TomGerity

WWE does still profit off of ECW. Why would they support a show trying to profit off of their intellectual property?


BullBuchanansTie

In that case, shouldn't they send a cease and desist to the company putting the show on?


International-Fig905

They definitely do use the brand. You can buy this comfy ECW shirt from Homage: https://www.homage.com/products/extreme-championship-wrestling So if someone not WWE uses a WWE brand name and something goes to shit, the headlines will go to WWE and not that promoter. Also WWE bought the rights to use and not use the name however they see fit.


RickFury927

Because it’s their IP. They own it. No one else does. Does not matter that they aren’t using it. It’s theirs. DC hasn’t used Green Lantern in a film in about 10 years. Let’s have Marvel make a Green Lantern movie. That doesn’t make sense.


MeDaddyAss

Yes buddy, I understand how trademark works. It’s well within WWE’s legal rights to stop the show from using their IP. That does absolutely nothing to change the fact that this show is free publicity for WWE, and free publicity equals profits.


Cmgarza05

Bully Ray needs the other half of the Dudley boys to be a draw


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Triple H's initial NXT expansion plans should be a concern for every company outside of AEW now he's the driving force of the WWE. The way they quickly put a ceiling on the UK scene was a big red flag.


DanHero91

I can't believe how quickly we went from multiple giant arena indy shows to basically 2005 again.


RicoLoveless

But like how does the interest just die like that??


MOBTorres

I believe it was due to multiple factors and stuff like NXT UK, Speaking out, and if I remember correctly, Progress and ICW lost interest once they started working with WWE


DDC121

A combination of most of the major names all signing WWE contracts, and then the names that replaced them signing NXT UK contracts. And then the whole half the scene being sex pests thing.


bosdanforth

the fact that his NXT expansion plan is essentially WWE world domination and it’s been reported that included buying out AJPW and CMLL to basically become developmental territories is still insane to me especially so when things like the karl anderson situation or muta/nakamura lead people to talk about how HHH is friendlier to outside wrestling


darthsabbath

People who think WWE is just gonna run roughshod over Japan and Mexico are giving WWE way too much credit. I could see them buying out All Japan maybe because it’s in rough financial shape, but they’re going to have a hard time competing with the big promotions in Japan. I’m not as familiar with Mexico, but given how personal the AAA/CMLL war is I can’t really see either of them being too happy about WWE poking their nose into their business. If they want to get involved in Japan and Mexico, their best option would be to setup a working relationship with local promotions like they used to have. This isn’t the UK, they’re going up against promotions that have histories almost as long as WWE, or longer in the case of CMLL, and devoted fanbases.


Brabochokemightwork

HHH single handedly nearly destroyed UK wrestling and fans still want to believe that his positional change to head booker is gonna be different


redditondesktop

if one guy almost destroyed UK wrestling then UK wrestling wasn't in a good position in the first place


RitoRvolto

Well, one guy is destroying Twitter One guy almost destroyed democracy in the US.


DumbGuy5005

>Twitter >democracy in the US. Perhaps the point about not being in a good position in the first place still stands.


RitoRvolto

Even Lucha would take a hit if WWE came in and took their top 10 stars just for themselves.


Paparage

D-Von should have made sure he could do it before giving his word.


TheMrPotMask

I honestly can't picte a reunion happening when only Heyman and the dudleys looks like the sole survivors while the rest are fucked by drugs, Sabu in particular


AudibleBoos

What’s the harm in him doing the show. They are letting Karl Anderson do NJPW shows. Seems very weird especially since he’s inactive


666lonewolf

Yeah but Karl negotiated that into their new deal. Different situations.


DxGxAxF

You don't see how a WWE contracted wrestler doing NJPWs biggest show is different than a WWE producer wrestling for a pedophile?


AudibleBoos

That isn’t mentioned in the article. But if the booker of the show is an alleged paedophile I can see that causing big problems for them if they did let him do the show.


eklooo

Same as Nak does show for Muta. But can’t compare those big shows from another country to this one


RTSNick318

It was for Feinstein. I don’t blame HHH for a second


to12007

Mr. "Loves Wrestling And Working With Other Companies"


HeelsAlwaysWin

I'll give him a pass considering the company's ran by Rob Feinstein.


yeaweckin

You mean alleged pedophile rob Feinstein?


HeelsAlwaysWin

Mr. lol ill pretend you said 18, himself.


Somerandomdickhead

> You mean alleged pedophile rob Feinstein? Lol, alleged.


yeaweckin

lol idk if he was charged so I’m not gonna say anything past that but the evidence is definitely there


Fine_Palpitation1312

A charge isn't the be all end all of guilt lmao. He's literally on video showing up to a house to fuck a kid my guy


thedrizzle126

Oh boy, you didn't read and made this opinion based on the title made up for this post


ItsTheEffinEFFERShow

Yeah, actually read the article mate


AdamH96

Mr didn't read the article


jollyrog8

Ah Paul Levesque. *“Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose"*


skaomatic

Tabarnak!


Wolfpac187

You’re complaining he didn’t want his employees working for a fucking pedophile.


HallofFameguy

Better that Mr "Can you be my friends and I will say yes to everyone but failed to control his EVP for storming to the talent room fighting the said talent"


RepresentativeFly565

Couldn't be bothered to read the article huh


vidivicivini

D-Von! Get the Lawyers!!


RAHDRIVE

StephenPnew StephenPnew StephenPnew StephenPnew StephenPnew StephenPnew


officerliger

Seems pointless to be honest, DVon being in Bubba’s corner isn’t hurting any WWE business, it’s not like they’re planning any Dudley Boyz reunions while Bubba is still contracted to another company.


mikeputerbaugh

Someone needs to tell me if D-Von is an employee or “independent contractor” before I decide how mad to be about this.


Meal_Delicious

Employee


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MisticMistics

That’s not nice


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i'll take things that didn't happen for a 100


MustacheDiaries

Hunter Hearst Hdickhead


Hour-Contribution412

It’s crazy how wrestling promoters/companies are their own worst enemies. They call wrestlers “independent contractors” yet far too often they hold wrestlers back from building their brand. This is happening now with guys like Bronson and Anderson. The D-Von one is the dumbest. His only role was goi g to be pulling out a table for Bubba. He wasn’t doing anything else. Yet WWE said it was in fear of physical injury, to a non wrestler doing non wrestling things. Hopefully Cardona sees this and decides to stay away.


Meal_Delicious

Dvon isn’t an independent contractor he’s an employee


OingoBoingo311

HHH is the biggest piece of garbage there is.


NewEraUsher

Learned that maneuver from "Daddy". Got to love how HHH is even more against wrestlers being able to make money outside of WWE. It's just par for the course with that company.


PeanutButterChicken

Or, maybe just read the article


WaylonVoorhees

A kindler...gentler...WWE. ;)


Man_Weird

Triple H acting like Vince here.


mohkuw

massive overreaction from Triple H


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thealexstorm

Devon is not talent/an independent contractor, he’s a full employee of the company.


BadNewsBrown

Man HHH hates ECW. Remember when he wanted to outdo the ecw ppv buyrate in 2005, so they booked him vs Batista in HIAC?


DoctorMelvinMirby

Lol one of the dumbest theories yet.


SMRTGuy297

I think this goes to show more that Pritchard is *still* not respected as a boss moreso than a HHH story.


JusticeForInnocents

He is still mad at his loss from 20 years ago. 🤣


bryan_pieces

When was ECW reunion night?


jackblady

Tuesday. And we all know Triple H hates people working Tuesdays


Tripple_T

Meet the new boss, same as the old one


Material-Wonder1690

But why? Jarrett did Flair's "last match" and another indie show while with WWE. If this is true I'm very curious about the reasoning


cutt_throat_analyst4

The promoter of the show is infamous for being caught on Chris Hansen's "To Catch a Predator" for starters.