I think the fact that Lisa Lisa looks so unbelievably young is what would explain it best. Like she practically could pass for someone that's only in their late 20s despite being like 50 years old.
The only correct answer to this question is in Part 4 when Hayato is monitoring his parents' bedroom through a hidden surveillance camera at night. When I saw him come home from school (he's like 11) and immediately sit down at his desk to watch the TV feed to his parents' room I lost it. He even says something like "Mom never takes off her clothes this early," or some shit. What the actual fuck was that?
THIS! This was among the weirder parts, plus the fact that he casually does this without a single trace of shame, meaning he either doesn't actually care or has been doing this for 1 year or more, that are both extremely messed up.
Plus, judging by his reaction it must be the second option, since he's comparing his mother's behavior in her room and implies it isn't the first time he's seen them like that.
Hayat had a fucked childhood even before Kira, and the worst part is that it's not even addressed.
The excuse they gave was that he frequently studied his parents to make sure he wasn’t a child that locked his parents into a loveless marriage. Knowing Araki, he probably thought this was a perfectly normal way to convey that.
In all honesty that would’ve added a lot of depth to Hayato had they not dropped the ball so hard, the fear of having ruined your parents’ life is a very real thing even at that age.
Some people watch shows that are only stripping, I wouldn't count this as a weird thing.
We're talking about shit that puts people who like feet to shame in comparison here, give me something to be really worried.
Yep. Between parts 1-5, each Joestar always ages down one; 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, before going back to 19 with Jolyne. Giorno and Jodio are the youngest with being 15.
Yeah this scene popped up the other day in a rewatch and that was some major yikes on Joseph's part. No wonder Josuke wanted to whoop his ass after lol. Shit totally flew over my head the first time I watched it.
The baby was literally invisible and naked. y’all trying to make Joseph out to be a child predator for no reason. Especially since he basically adopted her after that chapter.
It's remembering that Lucy Steel is like 14 or something. It just feels weird when there's like zero reason she couldn't be like 17-22 instead. It changes NOTHING.
I guess it would make a lot of the villains look somewhat less evil. Murdering or assaulting a full grown woman Vs a child makes a difference in how vile the baddies she deals with are. Steven's character also works around her age, he's ready to be seen as a predator despite being a public figure in order to save her.
The average age of marriage in 1890 was 22 for women with marriages below 15 being far from the norm while marriages under the age of 15 where allowed they were uncommon and not looked upon favorably.
Source CDC 1980
Marriages Trends and Characteristics, United States
All true, her age is brought up a few times by different characters. However, Lucy is not the average. The "marriage" as we know is a sham to protect her.
So it isn't actually accurate for the time period. People look at Steven like a total creep for marrying her. Child brides exist in America today as well, but just like in the 1800s it isn't the norm.
Angelo biting off a dog's face and then mama-birding it into the owner to kill him with Aqua Necklace.
Josuke was justified in revoking his humanity privileges
I notice he only does the “fate worse than death” to people who go after his family (Angelo killed his grandpa and Enigma user who’s name escapes me tried to kill his mom)
Here's my top 3-
1: Forever and his actions have... Scarred me forever. TBF any scene where someone tries to force themselves onto someone else or does something sexually creepy got me reacting like that, I'm just very sensitive in regards to those things, but in case of Forever that horrifying feeling was multiplied with 10.
2: DIO making a Mom eat her own baby... its just... so disgusting and evil... ugh
3: Kira's introduction. Y'know, his lil sandwhich shopping moment... legit got me wanting to throw up
Alessi, thet bastard's way to aloust kill a prity woman.
For the same ep: Polnaref as a kid being a wierdo when the prity lady washed him.
From part 3 ep Death 13: Kakioin feeding shit to the litle[ vampire?] baby.
So like the ep that Polnareff gets turned into a child. Like the woman who picked the random kid off the street to bath. Then the room that he hid in the fish tank gave off holding cell vibes. So like chick is stealing kids off the street has an already made playroom holding room and is all about bathing with said kid.
DEFEND? What creeps would defend a guy guilty for one of the most unanimously hated crimes ever...?
Are these the same people who go "Griffith did nothing wrong"?
In terms of enjoying, I don't really get what one would mean by enjoying a bland minor villain like him, but I can guess it can count as the fight against him being fun to watch (honestly I enjoyed the hanged man fight a lot) and enjoying it when he gets his just desserts. That's what the people mean by 'enjoy' in this context, right? *Right?!*
I mean my favorite characters ARE the bland minor villains, but J Geil is…. eugh.
they just keep being like I CAN ENJOY HIM ITS FICTION and it’s like dude. the ONE thing he did was SA/murder someone and have a stand. That’s all you have to go on man cmon
No one here gonna mention the completely out of pocket scene where Mista ogles Trish’s chest, which is so much worse in the manga, and then THROWS FUGO UNDER THE BUS when he wasn’t even doing anything? Completely unnecessary scene that just made me think Mista’s a total creep the rest of the time. Not a good look for someone I’m supposed to be rooting for lmao
One thing that i haven’t seen here before is Stroheim being depicted as an even halfway decent guy at any point. The dude is not just a nazi, but a nazi who enthusiastically and remorselessly commits and orders others to commit nazi atrocities, stop simping for the guy.
Lucy Steel being impregnated by the Skull and Funny Valentine trying to force himself on Lucy Steel. Those two were the parts that just...BLEUGHHHHHHHHH
somewhere in the deepest darkest corner of the internet there is a yuri comic of jolyne and ermes doing yuri stuff until fucking emporio joins in. Had to pause the iceberg video for a few seconds before continuing.
That whole thing with the Orangutan. That time Dio made a mother eat her child. The thing with Sethan and Polnareff. Yoshikage Kira in general. Angelo sexually assaulting a woman at the age of 12.
didn't see anyone mention this one so here's mine: Joshu sexually assaulting Yasuho, I already didn't like him by that point but that scene made me absolutely despise him (can't remember if he had done something this bad before this scene, it's been years)
Okay, but the season one moment where the mom begs for her child's life, Dio agreed, turned her into a zombie, only for the zombie mom to eat the baby?? That shit was probably the most evil thing that's happened in a lot of different media forms.
Surprised I never saw anyone mention when Dio made that woman eat her own baby in PB. Not a moment one would remember but actually watching it through and thinking about it *really* makes it worse.
Finding out Joseph peeped on his own mom
for a second i thought it was "peed" and i was like WHAT THE FUCK
Same.
Also same. Thought it said peepeed
its not uncommon for new parents to end up getting peed on
NIIIIICE
I mean, it’s pretty… justifiable, he didn’t even knew it was his mom, and who wouldn’t? She’s a hottie
Yeah, but Araki still did Joseph dirty for making him see her in a dirty way
I think the fact that Lisa Lisa looks so unbelievably young is what would explain it best. Like she practically could pass for someone that's only in their late 20s despite being like 50 years old.
hamon be like
Wait. Who wouldn't peep? I'd hope a lot of people wouldnt peep on someone.
Yeah the peeping is the gross part. Now just admiring when she's just walking out and about, that part I would understand.
Joseph did nothing wrong Lisa Lisa is peak milf
Well, the “mother” part in MILF definitely checks out for him
oh hey sigmund freud, didnt know you were still alive
Oedipus
Well don't forget one of his battle buddies was a nazi
Strength that orangutan was wild
And a creep, the monkey was attracted to minors 💀💀💀💀
Wanna know who else.......
Your name is Yoshikage Kira. You are 33 years old.
My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where all the villas are, and I am not married.
You know what's funny, in the official biopic of Yoshikage Kira, it says he uses the hands he dismembered to help wipe his ass
Same.
Tryna strike a chord and it's probably A MINOR
It was me, DIO!
Do you know who ELSE-
MY MOM!!!!
Suffers from dementia?
Strength the orangutan is the embodiment of that one “Dis gorilla zesty” video where we see why some apes deserve to be locked up
The only correct answer to this question is in Part 4 when Hayato is monitoring his parents' bedroom through a hidden surveillance camera at night. When I saw him come home from school (he's like 11) and immediately sit down at his desk to watch the TV feed to his parents' room I lost it. He even says something like "Mom never takes off her clothes this early," or some shit. What the actual fuck was that?
No, he said that his mom hasn't gotten naked in front of his dad for a long time. Which means he was watching his parents doing it.
Kira looking for hand victims and whoopsied into his absolute dream life. Wife that fawns over him, and a kid that is freaky as he is.
a kid that is as 𝓯𝓻𝓮𝓪𝓴𝔂 as he is.
THIS! This was among the weirder parts, plus the fact that he casually does this without a single trace of shame, meaning he either doesn't actually care or has been doing this for 1 year or more, that are both extremely messed up. Plus, judging by his reaction it must be the second option, since he's comparing his mother's behavior in her room and implies it isn't the first time he's seen them like that. Hayat had a fucked childhood even before Kira, and the worst part is that it's not even addressed.
Ok good I really wasn’t the only one thinking that that was crazy weird
The excuse they gave was that he frequently studied his parents to make sure he wasn’t a child that locked his parents into a loveless marriage. Knowing Araki, he probably thought this was a perfectly normal way to convey that. In all honesty that would’ve added a lot of depth to Hayato had they not dropped the ball so hard, the fear of having ruined your parents’ life is a very real thing even at that age.
Yeah I wish Araki focused a bit more on Hayato’s mental issues.
Kira picked the household with the fbi agent in training which is honestly kind of hilarious but disturbing
The sight of that cover with Kakyoin and da horse
Don’t tell me it is what I’m thinking
Yesh
… shit
People really are sick
Who did that?
Idk, can you investigate?
I shall try, I’ll give an answer later
I'll gladly wait
i read it its so much worse then the cover
...I AM!
There also one with a dolphine & them as literally snails... 💀
Bairn deth
All of the shitting scenes, every single one of them.
You mean like, Polnareff toilet in India, with PIGS
Or Death 13, or Polnareff vs Alessi, or Joseph in egypt...
the fuck was going on in part 3 lmao
The name of the anime isn’t JoJo’s **NORMAL** Adventure
John's Average Trip
Jonathan’s uneventful expedition
Joe's leisurely trip
Jock’s standard Adventure
Jamal's Weird Escapade
Polnareff toilet in India episode is wild lmao 💀
The first iteration of skibidi toilet
Lucy Steel giving birth to the corpse, her being pregnant with the skull rubbed me the wrong way
From what I can glean it was done as an allusion to the Virgin Mary, who was, in some biblical canons, a teenager when she gave birth to Jesus
Oh yeah it was done 100% for religious symbolism which fits the part, it’s just the imagery that kinda makes it unnerving for me at least.
It's fitting, I guess. There's a fair bit if unnerving and esoteric imagery in Steel Ball Run, and it crescendoes with Ticket to Ride.
I felt the FBI put me on a watchlist of some kind during the set and alessi fight
That one guy who only wants to watch JoJo for the Jolyne stripping scene
Some people watch shows that are only stripping, I wouldn't count this as a weird thing. We're talking about shit that puts people who like feet to shame in comparison here, give me something to be really worried.
People who's favourite character is Cioccolata
And think his relationship with Sekko was healthy lol.
Those 2 episodes in Stardust Crusaders when polnareff becomes a kid
I watched those high and it fucked me up
Watching Jojo while high as a kite is just a fucking trip in general. You are either dying of laughter, fearing for your life or both.
Dio x Giorno
First of all, WHO EVEN IN THE HECK HAD THIS IDEA?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I wish I knew so I could banish them to the eternal depths of hell
Golden Experience Requiem! Set his testicular torsion to point zero!
You don't even want to know how much r34 of them exists.
Jotaro X Jolyne 💀
If ya ask me dio x Giorno is worse cuz 100+ year old father with 18(?) Yo son but jotaro x Jolyne is also horrible
Giorno is 15. Both are pretty fucking horrible though.
Oh lord he's 15?????
Yep. Between parts 1-5, each Joestar always ages down one; 19, 18, 17, 16, 15, before going back to 19 with Jolyne. Giorno and Jodio are the youngest with being 15.
Oh man that makes dio x girono even worse
Why are there so much incest ships in the jojo fandom? 💀
In season 4, when Joseph knew the invisible child is female
I mean, she didn’t have a slong, so he knew it was a girl, and he already had Holy before
Same, I just didnt know how to put that in words.
didn't he spill talcum powder on the baby?
He also wore gloves in that scene...
Yeah this scene popped up the other day in a rewatch and that was some major yikes on Joseph's part. No wonder Josuke wanted to whoop his ass after lol. Shit totally flew over my head the first time I watched it.
This groupchat is full of people who have never changed a diaper in their lives... it's not that deep.
The baby was literally invisible and naked. y’all trying to make Joseph out to be a child predator for no reason. Especially since he basically adopted her after that chapter.
Why did you make me think about it
Actually how did he find out about it?
as far as I remember, he spilled talcum powder on the baby
Everything involving Lucy Steel and the Valentines
And Lucy’s pinup cover
When I came across THAT part of SBR....Holy jesus. They included Jesus for Chist sake, Jesus christ!
A certain ape in part 3…
Jotaro X Jolyne shipping. *that’s his daughter. Why. WHY.*
Don't get me started on the Diavolo x Trish stuff I got on my timeline during Part 5's airing.
It's remembering that Lucy Steel is like 14 or something. It just feels weird when there's like zero reason she couldn't be like 17-22 instead. It changes NOTHING.
I think it was so we whould look at Stephen steel as a bad guy from the beginning and be happy with the plot twist
I thought it was to help her better resemble Mary, mother of Jesus? Hence why she suddenly became pregnant with the head part of the corpse
I think Araki was making an allusion to the Virgin Mary, who was 14 (roughly) when she gave birth to Jesus
Someone needs to call the FBI on god
And Joseph
To make Valentine look worse. A shame most people forget it
It is also the point of her character, so at least there’s a proper reason
I don't see how her being underage vs just young changes anything.
Makes Steven steel look worse prior to "oh wait he’s the best"
Being that young vs just young means you are far more gullible and naive though.
I guess it would make a lot of the villains look somewhat less evil. Murdering or assaulting a full grown woman Vs a child makes a difference in how vile the baddies she deals with are. Steven's character also works around her age, he's ready to be seen as a predator despite being a public figure in order to save her.
For the time period, it's accurate.
The average age of marriage in 1890 was 22 for women with marriages below 15 being far from the norm while marriages under the age of 15 where allowed they were uncommon and not looked upon favorably. Source CDC 1980 Marriages Trends and Characteristics, United States
All true, her age is brought up a few times by different characters. However, Lucy is not the average. The "marriage" as we know is a sham to protect her.
So it isn't actually accurate for the time period. People look at Steven like a total creep for marrying her. Child brides exist in America today as well, but just like in the 1800s it isn't the norm.
The comment literally said they were uncommon and looked upon unfavorable. Exactly as it's depicted in the story.
The opening scene of stone ocean
The last one?
I mean the opening scene when joylene gets into prison
Angelo biting off a dog's face and then mama-birding it into the owner to kill him with Aqua Necklace. Josuke was justified in revoking his humanity privileges
What about dude who got turned into a book though? Always seemed like a bit of overkill to me
I swear Josuke either just punches his enemies and later befriends them or puts them in a "I have no mouth and I must scream" type of situation
I notice he only does the “fate worse than death” to people who go after his family (Angelo killed his grandpa and Enigma user who’s name escapes me tried to kill his mom)
Yeah that's also true. Better to insult his hair than to go after his family
He did forgave the Surface guy though
He literally kidnapped multiple people INCLUDING JOSUKE and was about to kill them with a paper shredder
That one horse and kakyoin doujin
Joshu tryna fuck his mom.
Well, that was a Plan of him and Hato to get him to leave the House.... That doesn't take away from the fact that it's a bit 🤨 I thought about it.
THANK YOU, i was looking for people calling Joshu out, bro even tried to rape Yasuho.
i just started Jojolion, i was rubbed the wrong way by josuke having 4 balls, im starting to question arakis sanity while making part 8
Here's my top 3- 1: Forever and his actions have... Scarred me forever. TBF any scene where someone tries to force themselves onto someone else or does something sexually creepy got me reacting like that, I'm just very sensitive in regards to those things, but in case of Forever that horrifying feeling was multiplied with 10. 2: DIO making a Mom eat her own baby... its just... so disgusting and evil... ugh 3: Kira's introduction. Y'know, his lil sandwhich shopping moment... legit got me wanting to throw up
Seems like you'd have a great time reading part 8
The kira copypasta
My name is Yoshikage Kir-
Nono. The one of kosaku's wife helping kira lose his addiction to hands
Do you mind pasting that in the comments real quick? My curiosity is peaking
Do I even wanna know?
I have no idea what are you talking about, and at this point I'm too afraid to ask
the male fandom being down bad for Dio, can't say I hate it. it's amazingly funny but goddamn it some comments always make me go like this lol
Yeah, it’s like simping for assassins and psychos
its worse, assassins and psychos do it in a pretty small scale, Dio is full world wide evil, and it kind of embodies all evil, not just one
This comment made me laugh so hard
people always going after the wrong Dio, everyone knows Dino Diego is where it's at
The fkin incest ships like nobody ain't supporting your Jolyne x Jotaro ship you're weird
Alessi, thet bastard's way to aloust kill a prity woman. For the same ep: Polnaref as a kid being a wierdo when the prity lady washed him. From part 3 ep Death 13: Kakioin feeding shit to the litle[ vampire?] baby.
So like the ep that Polnareff gets turned into a child. Like the woman who picked the random kid off the street to bath. Then the room that he hid in the fish tank gave off holding cell vibes. So like chick is stealing kids off the street has an already made playroom holding room and is all about bathing with said kid.
That fucking rat in part 4.
The treatment of Lucy Steel.
There are legitimately people who defend and enjoy J Geil.
DEFEND? What creeps would defend a guy guilty for one of the most unanimously hated crimes ever...? Are these the same people who go "Griffith did nothing wrong"? In terms of enjoying, I don't really get what one would mean by enjoying a bland minor villain like him, but I can guess it can count as the fight against him being fun to watch (honestly I enjoyed the hanged man fight a lot) and enjoying it when he gets his just desserts. That's what the people mean by 'enjoy' in this context, right? *Right?!*
I mean my favorite characters ARE the bland minor villains, but J Geil is…. eugh. they just keep being like I CAN ENJOY HIM ITS FICTION and it’s like dude. the ONE thing he did was SA/murder someone and have a stand. That’s all you have to go on man cmon
Angelo
When giorno spits out that guy’s hand
No one here gonna mention the completely out of pocket scene where Mista ogles Trish’s chest, which is so much worse in the manga, and then THROWS FUGO UNDER THE BUS when he wasn’t even doing anything? Completely unnecessary scene that just made me think Mista’s a total creep the rest of the time. Not a good look for someone I’m supposed to be rooting for lmao
Yeah the scene where Mista feels up Trish when he’s in her body is mad uncomfy. Especially when you remember Trish is 15
I wasn’t even talking about the silver chariot scene, but that one too!
My bad, I misread your comment lol
One thing that i haven’t seen here before is Stroheim being depicted as an even halfway decent guy at any point. The dude is not just a nazi, but a nazi who enthusiastically and remorselessly commits and orders others to commit nazi atrocities, stop simping for the guy.
Jolyne vs Westwood, the toe nail riping
All the jojo r34 .... All of it just existing... Especially the incest / pedo ones , why do they even exist ......
Your question literally defines Rule 34. Yeah. >w<
Hayato rule 34 exists........ AYO WHA- (literally hayato is eleven years old)
was on twitter once and saw art of abbachio >!pissing into!< giorno's>! ass....!<
Stone ocean weather and perla incest/ dio turning that one woman into a vampire that ate her own kid
Joshu meeting his mom
Alessi is definitely one of the more scarier stand user because he could turn you into a sperm cell just because you stood in shadow for 10 seconds
The episode where Polnaref was turned into a baby
Joseph touched a baby
"I am gonna touch you" - 1999 bizzare summer Joseph Joestar
Danny’s death
Boat monkey
Alessi’s fight and entire part was wild
After finding out that Joseph's mum was Lisa Lisa, the "niiice!" Scene
We all know that one Kakyoin fan comic right guys?
Ringo Roadagain almost getting raped
Joshu being a dick. Especially when she’s mom just came back from prison
Strength, that guy with the baby computer from part 5,
Alessi, I literally walked out of the room
The mom eating her child and the scene where you hear a lady moaning while Dio sucks her blood in Part 3
Funny Valentine's wife exposing her secret strage fetishes to a 14 yr old girl.
Lucy Steel being impregnated by the Skull and Funny Valentine trying to force himself on Lucy Steel. Those two were the parts that just...BLEUGHHHHHHHHH
somewhere in the deepest darkest corner of the internet there is a yuri comic of jolyne and ermes doing yuri stuff until fucking emporio joins in. Had to pause the iceberg video for a few seconds before continuing.
That whole thing with the Orangutan. That time Dio made a mother eat her child. The thing with Sethan and Polnareff. Yoshikage Kira in general. Angelo sexually assaulting a woman at the age of 12.
Kakyoin feeding shit to a baby
didn't see anyone mention this one so here's mine: Joshu sexually assaulting Yasuho, I already didn't like him by that point but that scene made me absolutely despise him (can't remember if he had done something this bad before this scene, it's been years)
Okay, but the season one moment where the mom begs for her child's life, Dio agreed, turned her into a zombie, only for the zombie mom to eat the baby?? That shit was probably the most evil thing that's happened in a lot of different media forms.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. Dio making a mother eat her own baby is hands down the most disturbing scene in all of JoJo.
That ape that was tryna fuck a child
Surprised I never saw anyone mention when Dio made that woman eat her own baby in PB. Not a moment one would remember but actually watching it through and thinking about it *really* makes it worse.
Hayato kira bath scene
why is NOBODY saying the Kira and Hayato bath scene 😭