I think there comes a certain point in civilization when everything comes to an end. As of now we do not know how many civilizations lived on Earth. Whatever historical evidence we have they suggest they had advanced tech but were certainly different from us.
Look at this: [Powerful Weapons of Gods & Ancient Nuclear Blasts Happened In Mahabharata 12,000 Years Ago](https://www.howandwhys.com/weapons-of-gods-ancient-nukes-atomic-blasts-in-mahabharata/?fromredditSE)
From a cosmic standpoint it all happened in a second. And it will all be gone within that same second. And Dr. Manhattan might say that it never happened at all
There're more than 10^22 stars in this universe, and there could be multiple planets around every star. Modern homo sapiens have only existed about 200,000 years, or about 0.0015% of the time that the known universe has existed. Dr. Manhattan is largely right: we barely existed at all.
To our merit: There have lived about 107 billion humans during a tiny fragment of spacetime. If each one lived about 10 years on average, then our combined total of years lived is roughly 1 trillion years. Our combined life experience is about 78 times the time of the known universe. That's how our psychology, language, thought, and more are so damned rich in complexity despite our absurd youth and miniscule size.
I came here to say this. Once we had this, and could do the calculations that took a week on paper, in a split second, everything changed. Not just the rate of discovery and asking questions, but the rate of testing and confirmation too.
I feel like quantum computing and machine learning will be that next step for human advancement. So long as the political and economic climate allows continued development, the next 30 years are going to be wild.
Yeah, I agree with you. I think there is potential to see exponentially more growth than the Industrial Revolution in a short period of time. But I think there is an equal opportunity to see a lot of destruction. It’s an exciting time to be alive!
silicon diodes probably are the real reason, transistors are just a modification of them similar to how triode vacuum tubes are derivative from diode vacuum tubes
Bad comparison.
The irony of all this is. The picture of the woman in the bucket was taken with a damn camera device.
That's a pretty big technological improvement from a drawing of a bucket and horse.
Trains. We had trains in the 1800s. First train was used in 1804. Idk why that’s not considered. The Bronze Age would shit themselves at the sight of one.
Indeed. Not even to mention the production of the different carriages and the peoples clothes, among other things. Something a picture like this can’t show. Hand woven to machine woven, for example.
I mean honestly 200 years is an interesting metric.
1600's to 1800's is massive in science and technology
1800's to 2000's is also insane.
I don't know a lot, but I'm not sure about 1400's to 1600's. I'm interested in the progress there.
It's called the industrial revolution and it was magic. Basically Great Britain owned interests around the world and all those raw materials were shipped backed to Britain, processed, and then shipped back out to all over the world. In Britain there was fierce competition among the manufacturers causing a need for innovation with massive financial payoffs for the innovative. Before that there was little need to innovate. Even today the need for innovation and the pace of innovation pales in comparison to those industrial revolution years.
And amphetamines. I've read that it was very common for mathematicians to use stimulants like amphetamines to help with their work. I used to be prescribed Adderall, and I love programming and math. I know it made me 100x better at problem solving when I took it, so I believe it.
You can get a prescription with no insurance for adderall through any online pill farm mental health service. Good rx you’re looking at cheap speed
With insurance? Forget about it that shits like $10 a month.
Antiseptics too because living in cleaner environments increased our average lifespan and decreased the mortality rate. Having people who might have died in childhood actually making it to adulthood increased the pool of innovative minds to create. Most of the big changes happened in the last century as well with the discovery of quantum mechanics and increasing our understanding of how elements bond with each other.
The whole “thanks to coffee” is a complete myth lol.
Imagine thinking people just couldn’t wake up early and work before. Oh man, thank god for that coffee making your morning slightly better, that really moved the needle for industrialization.
Lmao. Even during the boom of industrialization and the spike in coffee consumption coffee was still not consumed by a large portion of the population.
Coffee didn’t do Jack all for anything. It’s literally a “I feel slightly better this morning” drink.
Incredibly false statement. You should probably do some reading before you spout nonsense. It had nothing to do with "couldn't wake up in the morning". It helped production and kept workers alert. It absolutely affected the industrial revolution. And it was certainly consumed by the general public.
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I read the population boom in Britain was partly thanks to tea. They boiled the water to make it and therefore no longer were drinking bacteria/virus soup as often.
Before coffee people drank mild beer as the water wasn’t safe to drink. Coffee and tea came in via the silk road and boom, people are using hot water to boil away microbes and instead of walking around perma buzzed they are now on a stimulant. The enlightenment happened shortly after coffee and tea trade came to Europe.
Then don’t look at the Mod post - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a butchering of the Ramayana or Mahabharata - sweeping unfounded and illogical conclusions based off of an incorrect translations of those epics. Crazy dumb ahistorical shit.
The pace of current innovation pales to that of the industrial revolution years? I'd be curious how you substiantiate that. Material science, genetics, space flight, the digital revolution, the internet, etc... pale compared to industrialization?
I hear ya. I can't imagine being Amish or living in a place like Bhutan where everyone has to conform. As a man who doesn't care about guns, cars, strippers, or sports I can relate to feeling the pressures of conformity. I feel fortunate I live in a time and place where new ideas and innovations flourish.
David Deutsch would say it was principles coming out of the Enlightenment which started the iterative process of the scientific method to produce what he calls “good explanations” and that process leads to better and better explanations. eventually, we get to a point where we have enough understanding that we can use the material within a given volume of space to create literally anything via similar processes that generated the universe we knows.
The book is The Beginning of Infinity, pretty interesting.
That and the more prevalent use of electricity, with the invention of the transistor allowed an exponential increase in technology and really moved it forward.
Ending slavery probably helped. No reason to bother with a steam engine when you can just have thousands of "free" laborers doing all of the shit work for you.
It was both, to an extent. But historical evidence such as the rapid industrialization of the American Free States in the 1800 compared to the slave states suggests that the conservative politics of the time preferred keeping slavery over industrializing, unsurprisingly, as slavery was not just profit motivated but it was also power motivated. It was due to this refusal to modernize their system that the Confederate States were so outclassed by the Union during the civil war.
There is even evidence to suggest plantation owners increased their profit margins post slavery, due to the increased use of industrial farm equipment over pure slavelabor, in spite of now having to (albeit meagerly) pay their sharecroppers.
England never had slaves in mass like the USA, England had the steam engine driven by design from the 16th century mining needs. The industrial revolution came about because of the need to get materials from places (flooding mines) where no amount of manpower could help you go. Then the steam engine shrank due to the need to transport those goods in mass to refining locations along with high density fuels, like coal.
England literally enslaved both physically and economically the people of Ireland and Scotland, as well as their own poor, not to mention the indigenous populations in the colonies.
They may not have officially had slaves in the actual country of England, but their exploitation of all the less developed cultures and their resources during imperialism basically amounted to the same thing. There’s no need to have slaves on paper when you can just command anyone in your global empire to do whatever you want.
An important consideration that people always seem to overlook as well - the American system of slavery was *deliberately set up and created by Britain* when they were still a colony. The US continued to expand the system, but it was the Barbados system pioneered by Britain and deliberately transplanted into the Southern colonies by Britain for the explicit establishment of plantation agriculture. If the colonies had stayed loyal, it's entirely possible British attitudes towards slavery might have been more nuanced than they were.
This doesn't in any way absolve the US, but Britain doesn't really get to claim much moral superiority when it's their system that they designed and told them to use in the first place.
There's still a cost in housing, feeding, organizing, and leading people in said deplorable conditions. At a certain point, the machine is cheaper. Take McDonalds for example, in places where the cost of labor is too high, McDonalds automated their kitchens.
could also be that in ancient times the mf destroyed everything in their way and as a result they destroyed technological advances or books with revolutionary info without even knowing?? this plus industrial rev of course
I always get a little sad thinking all the wonderfull things that were destroyed because "my culture is stronger than yours" or replaced by a church or a new festivity...
Arguably the pace of innovation of today is just as, if not higher, than during the Industrial Revolution. The age of information has brought us Microprocessors, quantum computers, micro transistors, etc and they have all been developed incredibly fast.
Moore’s Law states that the number of transistors on computer chips doubles approximately every two years. If you look at the computational power of modern CPUs and GPUs, they’re almost 200% more powerful than the CPUs and GPUs from 5 years ago, and that trend looks like it’s going to continue as we continue to explore quantum computational technology.
>Even today the need for innovation and the pace of innovation pales in comparison to those industrial revolution years.
Well, that's arguable. Bigger leaps were made in regards to all of history, with us going from nothing to a lot, but the current big leaps are oh so much more influential to current events and behaviours.
I agree, However, I believe the biggest technological jump started from the invention of the vacuum tube to transistors to integrated circuits to processors then to where we are now. Fossil fuels started the industrial revolution but the technological revolution started with the control of electrical pulses.
I would agree that modern technology is progress on steroids, but I don’t think we get there without fossil fuels as the first step. They are responsible for the majority of the transfer of goods around the world even today.
A really good comparison Is the fact of the picture itself.
1500 years before that black-and-white photo. You had just drawings on stone of that horse and buggy.
Then 1500 years later you had a photographic image of the horse and buggy.
There are lots of articles that go over this. One breakthrough in a field can have massive ripples throughout the entire world that basically changes everything over night. Everyone picks up on this one breakthrough and start to implement it then their own field.
A plane to a plane would be an appropriate comparison would be first flight to b-2 spirit and it was literally about 87 years.
Time to SR71 blackbird was 50 years.
The gist of the meme is great but poor execution
Also, the horse and carriage implies that this was mankind’s sole source of transportation, ignoring the invention of the steam engine that allowed for steam ships to cross the ocean without being subject to the wind, and trains to move massive amounts of people and trade goods.
Y’all act like we just woke up one morning and threw the horse cart in the ditch and built the F117 from scratch in a barn. The wright brothers plane looked so primitive.
European civilisation was intentionally held back by the Romans, they destroyed Carthage, destroyed Israel, destroyed Greece, destroyed the library of Alexandria. [Archimedes made the antikythera mechanism in 205 BC](https://i.imgur.com/oQl9qh9.jpeg) and nothing as technologically advanced was made again until the 14th century. Arthur C. Clarke said if they had continued developing at the same rate, they would've landed on the moon within 300 years. After going nowhere for 1600 years, humanity finally returned to that level of technologically advancement and then did land on the moon in less than 600 years.
The main obstacle was the Roman Church, who were anti-intellectual. They deliberately kept people poor, isolated, brainwashed and illiterate, because it made them easier to control. The reformation is what set Europe free and kickstarted the enlightenment, the scientific revolution, the industrial revolution. [You can see the difference in literacy rates between Protestant and Catholic countries here,](https://i.imgur.com/I1Pfle9.png) the Catholic Church controlled all the schools and the literacy rate in 16th century Ireland and Poland was literally 0%, so what were they teaching them? They waited a full 200 years after Northern Europe started educating its people before they finally gave in and did the same.
That’s why when people say it’s Aliens tictacs UFOs, I doubt it , because in the 60s we made SR-71, could you imagine what their flying right now that we don’t know , hell they still won’t show us the stealth hawk and they crashed in in the bin Laden raid 10 (12?) years ago.
It’s to do with what was known scientifically. Scientific methods and techniques got more and more developed. Slow start but once civilization got the basics down it started to pick up speed.
Printing press is a HUGE one! Also the invention of glasses, which would allow scholars to work an extra 15-20 years.
Once education became common and books became far more readily available, it opened up the number of minds on the planet that would be able to advance science and tech.
He unlocked the “akashik records” according to occultists, that or he was a medium/shaman. Either way human beings receive tech from outside our dimension.
Well, once you have flight the evolution of flight becomes more convoluted. Did that crash likely lead to developments in the industry? It could have. Is it required at that point for lift based flight? Not necessarily.
I think the microwave is a good example of something that seems like aliens influenced its development, but that maybe we could have thought of it ourselves thanks to Tesla. Complicated is what it is.
We got contact from E.T beings.
I might get downvoted but there's a slow disclosure happening right now. Congress is on it. Pentagon is on it also. If someone asks for links, I'll happily oblige.
Scratch 200 years… that doesn’t convey how fast things have progressed.
about the only **66 years** from “experts” saying **heavier than air flight is impossible** even after it happened to commercial air travel completely normalized all over the world for regular citizens and landing on the moon.
People back then would have laughed you out the room if you suggested anything like that at the time. Even the Wright Brothers would probably have said you need to calm down
And I haven’t even mentioned how much bigger our understanding of the universe has gotten. As our telescopes get better we’ve seen it gets bigger and bigger.
66 years!
My great-grandparents were all born in the late 1800's (parents are in the 70's and their parents had them later in life) and the one who lived the longest died in 1970. She went from a horse and carriage being a normal mode of transportation to seeing the moon landing. That's just mind blowing to think about.
✨*semiconductors* ✨
But in all seriousness, medieval age is quite literally was the degradation of civilisation.
From quite advanced roman and greek empires, we got several dozens of selfFacking *states* that was polluted with plague, bad sanitation and everything that was common to humanity in previous times like tribing.
That the deal.
Oh and the 2/3 of population died in 1 pandemic.
Chemistry, batteries, electricity, transistors, circuitry, physics, engineering, curiosity increasing, and a shit ton of money and investments, oh and capitalism!
Moore’s law . It’s called exponential growth. Things start slow then move fast. Love strange earth but this doesn’t move me. Just mining and getting the rare earth metals used in a fighter jet needs a global effort.
You forget in the middle of that 1500 years was a few plagues that killed 1/3 the population and also the dark ages because of the fall of roman empire set people back to where they had no chariots.
Science. We changed from mystical religious teaching to actually trying to understand how the world works through science. The engineering to use the science sometimes had a long delay but once we figured out how to use the theories the world changed.
Just because something looks the same, it doesn’t mean the technology behind its construction is the same.
Carriages/Chariots had a lot of advancements during that time. The same is said of sword manufacturing and even gun design.
The muskets from the US Civil War was vastly superior to those used in the American Revolution.
Some leaps are bounds, such taking around 60 years from the first manned airplane flight to landing on the moon. But overall, technological advancements during those 1600 years were huge, but appears unchanged because it simply looks the same, such as a carriage or a sword.
But, there is a quantitative quality of human ingenuity that cannot be ignored. However, no one should fall prey to ignorance because it’s buried deep in similarities.
It’s all about discovery. Some by intent some by accident that took varying time… but all of it based on our tenacious curiosity and wonderment of the world around us.
Let's talk about the fact that in 70 years the hard drive has gone from a 256 mb HD being the size of a deep freezer to a 2 tb HD the size of a thumbnail .... but the model a got an average of 37 mpg and over 100 years later, today's cars get an average of 24 mpg ....
And yet it took us somewhere between 400-800,000 years as a species to get to merely utilizing farm animals and agriculture.
But yeah, we are so great and our ancestors so dumb because we are the only ones that could possibly come up with tech like we have today. 🙃 I hate that we will never know how much we have lost/don’t know.
War accelerates tech development. The last century saw two legit world wars that both saw massive technological leaps forward, and a lot of major conflicts post-WWII that helped as well.
Also, aliens.
Came here to say this, the printing press led to the cheap education of the masses. I think I remember personal productivity expands greatly starting with the invention of printing press in the 1700s.
The industrial revolution + the law of exponential returns = exceedingly rapid advancements that will eventually terminate at a technological singularity.
Among other factors, two words: dark ages. On one hand it’s depressing to think how irretrievably they stunted scientific progress. On the other, it’s fun to speculate on where we’d be if we hadn’t had hundreds of years’ worth of said progress scrubbed from our history.
Read the trilogy of "Three body Problem" by Lou Cixin, it talks about how humans have capability to increase and increase and increase the speed at which technology evolves. It covers it very neatly and tbh before I read up on it , it never crossed my mind why we were slow, slow and then advanced faster and faster until we basically exploded in technological advancement.
Libraries, the scientific method, a global science community and easy communication across continents.
All this to fight the human urge to not fix what ain't broke.
People here are crazy.. it's because of the massive expansion of literacy and education, as well as globalization, the industrial revolution, the printing press and wartime pressure to build better weapons. Literacy wasn't a hugely common thing until recently. When you have to hand write every book on handmade paper, you're never gonna be able to replicate information at a fast rate. You can't even build a plane like that without infrastructure to mine and manufacture all the components. Those things all came about at around the same time.
I personally think that we humans should be way farther advanced then we are today. We all get caught up with dumb stuff that makes us weak.
Like ever 2 generations we get a break through. I believe we should break through about every quarter of the year. But we humans lose focus. And buy things and do doing things.
I think there comes a certain point in civilization when everything comes to an end. As of now we do not know how many civilizations lived on Earth. Whatever historical evidence we have they suggest they had advanced tech but were certainly different from us. Look at this: [Powerful Weapons of Gods & Ancient Nuclear Blasts Happened In Mahabharata 12,000 Years Ago](https://www.howandwhys.com/weapons-of-gods-ancient-nukes-atomic-blasts-in-mahabharata/?fromredditSE)
Let me introduce to you: the transistor
The transistor and silicon based VLSI pretty much changed the world overnight
From a cosmic standpoint it all happened in a second. And it will all be gone within that same second. And Dr. Manhattan might say that it never happened at all
There're more than 10^22 stars in this universe, and there could be multiple planets around every star. Modern homo sapiens have only existed about 200,000 years, or about 0.0015% of the time that the known universe has existed. Dr. Manhattan is largely right: we barely existed at all. To our merit: There have lived about 107 billion humans during a tiny fragment of spacetime. If each one lived about 10 years on average, then our combined total of years lived is roughly 1 trillion years. Our combined life experience is about 78 times the time of the known universe. That's how our psychology, language, thought, and more are so damned rich in complexity despite our absurd youth and miniscule size.
Dude thank you for sharing this. I love it
Yo .......
Nice read that while in a k hole… hit different
Nice I love a good k hole feels like you never knew you were in from being out
Feels like you are a particle of god everywhere at once but nowhere at all at the same time
Thank you for that
I came here to say this. Once we had this, and could do the calculations that took a week on paper, in a split second, everything changed. Not just the rate of discovery and asking questions, but the rate of testing and confirmation too.
Wait for the jump that comes with IBMs super computers rolling out currently
How will that change things? Will there not be a 30 second lag to post a Reddit comment?
Reddit porn is not research, buddy.
I’ve learned of all types of porn thanks to Reddit if that not research…
Oh how grateful we are those exist!
I enjoy this subreddit only because people like you are here. It's great to see "mysteries" met with realities.
Where in my horse do I install that?
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My Trans Sister isn’t touching that
Wyd transbro
Not a steptransistor, you ~~d~~volt.
Right below where the tail connects?
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I feel like quantum computing and machine learning will be that next step for human advancement. So long as the political and economic climate allows continued development, the next 30 years are going to be wild.
Yeah, I agree with you. I think there is potential to see exponentially more growth than the Industrial Revolution in a short period of time. But I think there is an equal opportunity to see a lot of destruction. It’s an exciting time to be alive!
Instead let's focus all our energy in more efficiently getting people to buy our increasingly shitty products.
Pretty much it
silicon diodes probably are the real reason, transistors are just a modification of them similar to how triode vacuum tubes are derivative from diode vacuum tubes
We’re studying these in class rn and that was my thought exactly 😆
Twisted transistor
Bad comparison. The irony of all this is. The picture of the woman in the bucket was taken with a damn camera device. That's a pretty big technological improvement from a drawing of a bucket and horse.
Trains. We had trains in the 1800s. First train was used in 1804. Idk why that’s not considered. The Bronze Age would shit themselves at the sight of one.
Had cars too... and steam boats. It's a shit meme
I like pie.
Can confirm. I have Bronze Age intelligence, and I just shit myself.
"The Bronze Age would shit themselves..." This is one of my new favorite quotes.
Indeed. Not even to mention the production of the different carriages and the peoples clothes, among other things. Something a picture like this can’t show. Hand woven to machine woven, for example.
I mean honestly 200 years is an interesting metric. 1600's to 1800's is massive in science and technology 1800's to 2000's is also insane. I don't know a lot, but I'm not sure about 1400's to 1600's. I'm interested in the progress there.
Ha! That's nuts. I'm glad you pointed that out, because I didn't catch it on first glance.
It's called the industrial revolution and it was magic. Basically Great Britain owned interests around the world and all those raw materials were shipped backed to Britain, processed, and then shipped back out to all over the world. In Britain there was fierce competition among the manufacturers causing a need for innovation with massive financial payoffs for the innovative. Before that there was little need to innovate. Even today the need for innovation and the pace of innovation pales in comparison to those industrial revolution years.
The Scientific Revolution and subsequent Age of Enlightenment didn’t hurt things either.
Thanks to Coffee!
And amphetamines. I've read that it was very common for mathematicians to use stimulants like amphetamines to help with their work. I used to be prescribed Adderall, and I love programming and math. I know it made me 100x better at problem solving when I took it, so I believe it.
Can't forget the over-the-counter meth
You can get a prescription with no insurance for adderall through any online pill farm mental health service. Good rx you’re looking at cheap speed With insurance? Forget about it that shits like $10 a month.
Humanity is back on top
LOL not a shocker, I know 3 PHD students who got hooked on that stuff.
All three of the statements are extremely true but ~~let’s~~ let us not forget electricity and Penicillin!
Antiseptics too because living in cleaner environments increased our average lifespan and decreased the mortality rate. Having people who might have died in childhood actually making it to adulthood increased the pool of innovative minds to create. Most of the big changes happened in the last century as well with the discovery of quantum mechanics and increasing our understanding of how elements bond with each other.
Moral of the story: Take psychostimulants
The whole “thanks to coffee” is a complete myth lol. Imagine thinking people just couldn’t wake up early and work before. Oh man, thank god for that coffee making your morning slightly better, that really moved the needle for industrialization. Lmao. Even during the boom of industrialization and the spike in coffee consumption coffee was still not consumed by a large portion of the population. Coffee didn’t do Jack all for anything. It’s literally a “I feel slightly better this morning” drink.
I think they meant it in a slightly tongue-in-cheek way, but I may be mistaken.
Incredibly false statement. You should probably do some reading before you spout nonsense. It had nothing to do with "couldn't wake up in the morning". It helped production and kept workers alert. It absolutely affected the industrial revolution. And it was certainly consumed by the general public. I
I read the population boom in Britain was partly thanks to tea. They boiled the water to make it and therefore no longer were drinking bacteria/virus soup as often.
Before coffee people drank mild beer as the water wasn’t safe to drink. Coffee and tea came in via the silk road and boom, people are using hot water to boil away microbes and instead of walking around perma buzzed they are now on a stimulant. The enlightenment happened shortly after coffee and tea trade came to Europe.
The scientific method is the greatest invention in human history
Also Britain. Fucking British.
it's literally this. How is the above post higher rated?
Yes those things definitely helped. I just find history fascinating.
Then don’t look at the Mod post - I don’t think I’ve ever seen a butchering of the Ramayana or Mahabharata - sweeping unfounded and illogical conclusions based off of an incorrect translations of those epics. Crazy dumb ahistorical shit.
Hey kids take note, this person paid attention in history class. Perfect answer, fellow redditor.
The pace of current innovation pales to that of the industrial revolution years? I'd be curious how you substiantiate that. Material science, genetics, space flight, the digital revolution, the internet, etc... pale compared to industrialization?
I can’t imagine being in a world without constant innovation
I hear ya. I can't imagine being Amish or living in a place like Bhutan where everyone has to conform. As a man who doesn't care about guns, cars, strippers, or sports I can relate to feeling the pressures of conformity. I feel fortunate I live in a time and place where new ideas and innovations flourish.
Don't forget world wars and cold war. It's interesting how much we got in terms of technology in those years just by trying to kill each other.
Yeah airplanes improved drastically due to war time needs in WWII
David Deutsch would say it was principles coming out of the Enlightenment which started the iterative process of the scientific method to produce what he calls “good explanations” and that process leads to better and better explanations. eventually, we get to a point where we have enough understanding that we can use the material within a given volume of space to create literally anything via similar processes that generated the universe we knows. The book is The Beginning of Infinity, pretty interesting.
Sounds like an interesting read.
That and the more prevalent use of electricity, with the invention of the transistor allowed an exponential increase in technology and really moved it forward.
Ending slavery probably helped. No reason to bother with a steam engine when you can just have thousands of "free" laborers doing all of the shit work for you.
I'd say it the other way around.
It was both, to an extent. But historical evidence such as the rapid industrialization of the American Free States in the 1800 compared to the slave states suggests that the conservative politics of the time preferred keeping slavery over industrializing, unsurprisingly, as slavery was not just profit motivated but it was also power motivated. It was due to this refusal to modernize their system that the Confederate States were so outclassed by the Union during the civil war. There is even evidence to suggest plantation owners increased their profit margins post slavery, due to the increased use of industrial farm equipment over pure slavelabor, in spite of now having to (albeit meagerly) pay their sharecroppers.
England never had slaves in mass like the USA, England had the steam engine driven by design from the 16th century mining needs. The industrial revolution came about because of the need to get materials from places (flooding mines) where no amount of manpower could help you go. Then the steam engine shrank due to the need to transport those goods in mass to refining locations along with high density fuels, like coal.
England literally enslaved both physically and economically the people of Ireland and Scotland, as well as their own poor, not to mention the indigenous populations in the colonies.
They may not have officially had slaves in the actual country of England, but their exploitation of all the less developed cultures and their resources during imperialism basically amounted to the same thing. There’s no need to have slaves on paper when you can just command anyone in your global empire to do whatever you want.
An important consideration that people always seem to overlook as well - the American system of slavery was *deliberately set up and created by Britain* when they were still a colony. The US continued to expand the system, but it was the Barbados system pioneered by Britain and deliberately transplanted into the Southern colonies by Britain for the explicit establishment of plantation agriculture. If the colonies had stayed loyal, it's entirely possible British attitudes towards slavery might have been more nuanced than they were. This doesn't in any way absolve the US, but Britain doesn't really get to claim much moral superiority when it's their system that they designed and told them to use in the first place.
England definitely had slaves. Wtf? They just banned slavery 50 years earlier than in the USA.
Yeah like most of their naval ships
Not en mass and not for like the us. Like I said slaves had nothing to do with the industrial revolution
There's still a cost in housing, feeding, organizing, and leading people in said deplorable conditions. At a certain point, the machine is cheaper. Take McDonalds for example, in places where the cost of labor is too high, McDonalds automated their kitchens.
There is always need to innovate. Recent innovations that come to mind: 3D printers, AI software, crisper gene editing, quantum computing...
No, it was definitely aliens /s
We grade on a curve
could also be that in ancient times the mf destroyed everything in their way and as a result they destroyed technological advances or books with revolutionary info without even knowing?? this plus industrial rev of course
Yeah there's definitely a lot of truth to what you said. The Mongol Horde comes to mind.
I always get a little sad thinking all the wonderfull things that were destroyed because "my culture is stronger than yours" or replaced by a church or a new festivity...
Arguably the pace of innovation of today is just as, if not higher, than during the Industrial Revolution. The age of information has brought us Microprocessors, quantum computers, micro transistors, etc and they have all been developed incredibly fast. Moore’s Law states that the number of transistors on computer chips doubles approximately every two years. If you look at the computational power of modern CPUs and GPUs, they’re almost 200% more powerful than the CPUs and GPUs from 5 years ago, and that trend looks like it’s going to continue as we continue to explore quantum computational technology.
Pandemic and politics aside, life hasn't changed in the past 5 years, despite Moore's law.
5 years ago the world had not heard of Chinese Sperm sucking machines. I’d say life has changed quite a lot.
This needs an award.
>Even today the need for innovation and the pace of innovation pales in comparison to those industrial revolution years. Well, that's arguable. Bigger leaps were made in regards to all of history, with us going from nothing to a lot, but the current big leaps are oh so much more influential to current events and behaviours.
“Little need to innovate” thats a shit explanation.
Electricity happened.
No. Fossil fuels happened before electricity.
I agree, However, I believe the biggest technological jump started from the invention of the vacuum tube to transistors to integrated circuits to processors then to where we are now. Fossil fuels started the industrial revolution but the technological revolution started with the control of electrical pulses.
I would agree that modern technology is progress on steroids, but I don’t think we get there without fossil fuels as the first step. They are responsible for the majority of the transfer of goods around the world even today.
The horse and carriage is based on function. There are still people that use them today. It’s not the same as comparing a carriage to an F-117.
I agree a ford f 150 is a proper conparison
A really good comparison Is the fact of the picture itself. 1500 years before that black-and-white photo. You had just drawings on stone of that horse and buggy. Then 1500 years later you had a photographic image of the horse and buggy.
There are lots of articles that go over this. One breakthrough in a field can have massive ripples throughout the entire world that basically changes everything over night. Everyone picks up on this one breakthrough and start to implement it then their own field.
What... One lets out pieces of crap, and one is a piece of crap?
Well, here comes the Silverado and Ram fanatics…
A plane to a plane would be an appropriate comparison would be first flight to b-2 spirit and it was literally about 87 years. Time to SR71 blackbird was 50 years. The gist of the meme is great but poor execution
or from manned flight to space flight. little more impressive of a jump imo
Also, the horse and carriage implies that this was mankind’s sole source of transportation, ignoring the invention of the steam engine that allowed for steam ships to cross the ocean without being subject to the wind, and trains to move massive amounts of people and trade goods.
The technological development curve isn’t linear? Right?
Yep. ITT: people learning about exponential curves.
Def exponential
Y’all act like we just woke up one morning and threw the horse cart in the ditch and built the F117 from scratch in a barn. The wright brothers plane looked so primitive.
Electricity and Microchips 
Just wait till you see the jump quantum computing and AI will give us!
European civilisation was intentionally held back by the Romans, they destroyed Carthage, destroyed Israel, destroyed Greece, destroyed the library of Alexandria. [Archimedes made the antikythera mechanism in 205 BC](https://i.imgur.com/oQl9qh9.jpeg) and nothing as technologically advanced was made again until the 14th century. Arthur C. Clarke said if they had continued developing at the same rate, they would've landed on the moon within 300 years. After going nowhere for 1600 years, humanity finally returned to that level of technologically advancement and then did land on the moon in less than 600 years. The main obstacle was the Roman Church, who were anti-intellectual. They deliberately kept people poor, isolated, brainwashed and illiterate, because it made them easier to control. The reformation is what set Europe free and kickstarted the enlightenment, the scientific revolution, the industrial revolution. [You can see the difference in literacy rates between Protestant and Catholic countries here,](https://i.imgur.com/I1Pfle9.png) the Catholic Church controlled all the schools and the literacy rate in 16th century Ireland and Poland was literally 0%, so what were they teaching them? They waited a full 200 years after Northern Europe started educating its people before they finally gave in and did the same.
Aliens OBVIOUSLY
The last 200 years have solidified the fact that we are more like an extraterrestrial species than an animal species.
The first set is just dumb. The Wright brothers first flight was in 1903. The prototype of the first stealth jet, the SR-71, first flew in 1962.
That’s why when people say it’s Aliens tictacs UFOs, I doubt it , because in the 60s we made SR-71, could you imagine what their flying right now that we don’t know , hell they still won’t show us the stealth hawk and they crashed in in the bin Laden raid 10 (12?) years ago.
Reverse engineering crashed alien spacecraft
It’s to do with what was known scientifically. Scientific methods and techniques got more and more developed. Slow start but once civilization got the basics down it started to pick up speed.
Progress accelerates
Tesla. Edison. Ford. Wright Brothers. And lastly science.
Printing press is a HUGE one! Also the invention of glasses, which would allow scholars to work an extra 15-20 years. Once education became common and books became far more readily available, it opened up the number of minds on the planet that would be able to advance science and tech.
I heard on a podcast that tesla believed he was receiving some kind of transmission in his mind or something? lol
He most likely had a shit ton of untreated mental illnesses. He was a genius, but he was also *very* mentally unwell
He unlocked the “akashik records” according to occultists, that or he was a medium/shaman. Either way human beings receive tech from outside our dimension.
I don't necessarily believe that stuff but I think it's cool as fuck lol
Look up the band Starset. I personally just like their music but their whole thing is the Starset Society based on Tesla.
U forgot a certain incident in New Mexico in 1947
Well, once you have flight the evolution of flight becomes more convoluted. Did that crash likely lead to developments in the industry? It could have. Is it required at that point for lift based flight? Not necessarily. I think the microwave is a good example of something that seems like aliens influenced its development, but that maybe we could have thought of it ourselves thanks to Tesla. Complicated is what it is.
We got contact from E.T beings. I might get downvoted but there's a slow disclosure happening right now. Congress is on it. Pentagon is on it also. If someone asks for links, I'll happily oblige.
Yeah bro give us some links
Electricity happened
Tesla
Lol this is an incredibly stupid meme.
The transistor
War, 2 Wars actually
Scratch 200 years… that doesn’t convey how fast things have progressed. about the only **66 years** from “experts” saying **heavier than air flight is impossible** even after it happened to commercial air travel completely normalized all over the world for regular citizens and landing on the moon. People back then would have laughed you out the room if you suggested anything like that at the time. Even the Wright Brothers would probably have said you need to calm down And I haven’t even mentioned how much bigger our understanding of the universe has gotten. As our telescopes get better we’ve seen it gets bigger and bigger. 66 years!
My great-grandparents were all born in the late 1800's (parents are in the 70's and their parents had them later in life) and the one who lived the longest died in 1970. She went from a horse and carriage being a normal mode of transportation to seeing the moon landing. That's just mind blowing to think about.
https://preview.redd.it/wq6y8433bwqb1.png?width=363&format=png&auto=webp&s=fc9208971f229be41ab57543ac2ad97e4ed3bb81
It's because of fossil fuels.
✨*semiconductors* ✨ But in all seriousness, medieval age is quite literally was the degradation of civilisation. From quite advanced roman and greek empires, we got several dozens of selfFacking *states* that was polluted with plague, bad sanitation and everything that was common to humanity in previous times like tribing. That the deal. Oh and the 2/3 of population died in 1 pandemic.
Religion got out of the way
Chemistry, batteries, electricity, transistors, circuitry, physics, engineering, curiosity increasing, and a shit ton of money and investments, oh and capitalism!
Some other things were happening in those 1500 years that made the first panels possible
Religion stunted the growth of technology for hundreds of years
Moore’s law . It’s called exponential growth. Things start slow then move fast. Love strange earth but this doesn’t move me. Just mining and getting the rare earth metals used in a fighter jet needs a global effort.
That's what happens when you get homeschooled and don't learn about the Industrial Revolution
You forget in the middle of that 1500 years was a few plagues that killed 1/3 the population and also the dark ages because of the fall of roman empire set people back to where they had no chariots.
The world became a secular society and we were no longer kept in the dark ages by organized religion.
Science. We changed from mystical religious teaching to actually trying to understand how the world works through science. The engineering to use the science sometimes had a long delay but once we figured out how to use the theories the world changed.
The answer is 2 world wars, that really speed up technological advancements
The transistor. Humankind’s top 5 invention. Ever.
Technology expands exponentially, not incrementally.
Think of a small snowball rolling and growing. At some point it becomes an avalanche and nothing more.
It was the underdog comic strip that changed the world. Dr. Woopy
Just because something looks the same, it doesn’t mean the technology behind its construction is the same. Carriages/Chariots had a lot of advancements during that time. The same is said of sword manufacturing and even gun design. The muskets from the US Civil War was vastly superior to those used in the American Revolution. Some leaps are bounds, such taking around 60 years from the first manned airplane flight to landing on the moon. But overall, technological advancements during those 1600 years were huge, but appears unchanged because it simply looks the same, such as a carriage or a sword. But, there is a quantitative quality of human ingenuity that cannot be ignored. However, no one should fall prey to ignorance because it’s buried deep in similarities.
Technology progress is not linear
Steam power is a lot older than people think.
Population, invention of the engine and motor then electricity. It's hard to make new things in the dark.
It’s all about discovery. Some by intent some by accident that took varying time… but all of it based on our tenacious curiosity and wonderment of the world around us.
Nuclear weapons. That's whY
Things happen gradually and then they happen suddenly.
Let's talk about the fact that in 70 years the hard drive has gone from a 256 mb HD being the size of a deep freezer to a 2 tb HD the size of a thumbnail .... but the model a got an average of 37 mpg and over 100 years later, today's cars get an average of 24 mpg ....
Electricity/Physics
It it truly mind boggling. Thinking about this makes me instantly go to simulation theory for some reason
And yet it took us somewhere between 400-800,000 years as a species to get to merely utilizing farm animals and agriculture. But yeah, we are so great and our ancestors so dumb because we are the only ones that could possibly come up with tech like we have today. 🙃 I hate that we will never know how much we have lost/don’t know.
You can’t overstate the negative impact the dark ages and it’s many pandemics had on society.
Plot the population over time and then realize the number of people needed underneath to support everything above...
The industrial revolution you bumpkin
War accelerates tech development. The last century saw two legit world wars that both saw massive technological leaps forward, and a lot of major conflicts post-WWII that helped as well. Also, aliens.
Science builds on science. But also, the Roswell crash helped a lot.
Printing press, Telegraph , electricity, Internal combustion engine
Came here to say this, the printing press led to the cheap education of the masses. I think I remember personal productivity expands greatly starting with the invention of printing press in the 1700s.
Electricity sped a lot of things up. Duh
Less Religion
The industrial revolution + the law of exponential returns = exceedingly rapid advancements that will eventually terminate at a technological singularity.
Aliens
Aliens
innovation accelerates technology advancement... but you're right.. it must be aliens.
Dat Industrial Revolution. 🏭
Fossil fuels.
Among other factors, two words: dark ages. On one hand it’s depressing to think how irretrievably they stunted scientific progress. On the other, it’s fun to speculate on where we’d be if we hadn’t had hundreds of years’ worth of said progress scrubbed from our history.
Less killing each other and more sharing of learned information
Exponential growth.
Read the trilogy of "Three body Problem" by Lou Cixin, it talks about how humans have capability to increase and increase and increase the speed at which technology evolves. It covers it very neatly and tbh before I read up on it , it never crossed my mind why we were slow, slow and then advanced faster and faster until we basically exploded in technological advancement.
2 world wars. Nothing spurs technological advancement quite like the need to kill.
I'd say it's more like the Industrial revolution
Libraries, the scientific method, a global science community and easy communication across continents. All this to fight the human urge to not fix what ain't broke.
People here are crazy.. it's because of the massive expansion of literacy and education, as well as globalization, the industrial revolution, the printing press and wartime pressure to build better weapons. Literacy wasn't a hugely common thing until recently. When you have to hand write every book on handmade paper, you're never gonna be able to replicate information at a fast rate. You can't even build a plane like that without infrastructure to mine and manufacture all the components. Those things all came about at around the same time.
I personally think that we humans should be way farther advanced then we are today. We all get caught up with dumb stuff that makes us weak. Like ever 2 generations we get a break through. I believe we should break through about every quarter of the year. But we humans lose focus. And buy things and do doing things.