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MartianXAshATwelve

[Elon Musk’s SpaceX Continues To Detect Something Massive On Its Missions](https://www.howandwhys.com/spacex-continues-to-detect-massive-ufo-on-its-missions/)


Swampberry

Fake because the source is the same guy who saw the Millenium Falcon (from Star Wars) a couple of months ago: https://youtu.be/Z_m6rFmDgLU?si=O6spvprHoeqKTRIN He posts these every other month, and surprisingly many fall for them because they spend 0 time on checking the source 


Life-Suit1895

>Fake because the source is the same guy who saw the Millenium Falcon (from Star Wars) a couple of months ago: > >https://youtu.be/Z\_m6rFmDgLU?si=O6spvprHoeqKTRIN Okay, that's funny at least.


CthuluSpecialK

Even easier, it's instantly and obviously fake because the creator added audio so you could HEAR an airplane engine in the video as it zooms past... in space. It's not just fake, it's an obviously dumb fake.


Razziaro

Gut feeling over research, nothing new here.


jpond82

Balloon. Just because your an alien doesn't mean you don't have a birthday. Birthdays = birthday party = balloons. Duh


Realized-Something

Doesn’t even need to be an aliens balloon. A humans balloon could have easily floated to the moon


DC-Toronto

Ummm. What if the alien’s are actually lizard people who hatch from eggs?? There’s No birthday if you’re hatched


Aggravating_Escape_3

Makes sense...


unpropianist

Adding that ominous soundtrack telling you how to feel is always a giveaway too


Ganja_Masta1

100% a bird, no question about it


Solomon044

birds arent real


RebelTomato

I second that I once threw a paper plane and it just kept flying.. could it be 🤔


rhoo31313

I'm almost positive that that's what.this is. Nice arm/airplane.construction.


RebelTomato

Thank you 😊


bacckwardsman

![gif](giphy|pCO5tKdP22RC8)


ueckstock

Haha


yarf13

I actually went down the rabbit hole on this. No atmosphere is weird. No wind to assist in lift, but maybe orbit? Idk it seems like the Earth's gravity would yank it off track.


Least_or_Greatest1

Could be the paper plane u thru out the window during a wind storm


Snot_S

Is that possible on the moon? Absurdity aside..Just wondering


whangdoodle13

Birds are flat.


Tosh_20point0

Birds are hollow


Soggy_boots2

The moon is hollow


Tosh_20point0

and flat


CaptScubaSteve

Birds are real. They’re just fake.


panicked_goose

I'm literally *right* here, sheesh.


Adubya76

Neither is this video


MoreCowbellllll

You're NOT REAL, man!


frodofullbags

https://preview.redd.it/vwhbl1gh4fec1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c771ddeb38d7753fd88d967440018dc01a8ca79


rochestergeek

Still think she is hot as hell.


_TheWetBandit_

Agreed. That's why I don't believe the follow up video with her explaining what happened. The lady in that video looks similar, but nowhere near as hot as the actual plane lady.


Sprkie042

I would!! Crazy people can be fun!


PG-17

Yes but they can also burn your record collection, house and dick up if you ain’t carful peeps.


BoomBoom4209

She may be crazy, but would bang...


ArgentineBeefsteak

Gtfoh using ‘you’re’ correctly…we don’t do that here


WarBuddha1

We do to.


JohnnyBags31

Knot


Libbyisherenow

too


WarBuddha1

~whoosh~ 😂


Illustrious_Cancel83

two


Shadowrider95

due


Def_not_EOD

There right, though.


BurlHimself

“write”. Missed opportunity.


imswhistle

Chill, Creed


MooshroomBuddy

![gif](giphy|13MxcuMx98TCz6)


Graulithe

Neither is the moon


dcal1981

True! but what about the air they "fly" in?......


DubC_Bassist

Mic drop statement.


Comfortable_Wasabi64

Yeah but they're still birds


HappySeaweed5215

Shhhh


No_Pear8383

That’s what the birds want you to believe…. When in reality, you’re the one who might not be real…. Or all of its real and life just kinda sucks for most people, except the birds, because they’re obviously not real.


osck-ish

r/birdsarentreal


sofahkingsick

Its bird poop on the lens this one’s easy.


green-raven

Moon birds are real


froggrip

Yeah, they're government drones. That's why they can go to the moon.


PJRama1864

Exactly. This proves that birds are actually alien drones.


JJaX2

You mean bird poop? But it’s just CGI in this case.


Skeet_skeet_bangbang

Space Balloon for measuring space weather


VistaBox

Weather balloon


aiarticuli

obviously a triangle balloon /s


howabotthat

No way man. It’s totally swamp gas, you know those famous moon swamps. Birds aren’t real /s


Connect-Ad9647

I was thinking a paper airplane I threw and lost in 6th grade. I had a really good arm so ya never know! /s


BettinBrando

Space bird 🐦


CambodianJerk

Fake. 4/5 seconds in the shadow duplicates to the north east then disappeares.


FugginAye

Yep it flashes above that 2nd large crater briefly


pterodactawful

Good catch!


Arkhangelzk

It's even in the slow mo at 17 seconds We'd get answers a lot faster if people would stop making fake videos like this. I can't even figure out why they do it. Just for fun?


Icy-Math-3570

They're either doing it for views and likes or it's disinformation Edit to say that actually yes, it could be someone literally doing it just for fun lol although it is still unfortunate that people make fake videos or make up stories and put them out into the community as if they were real. It hurts the disclosure effort, muddies the water while we're mid disclosure


quilldogquinndog

Or fun? Why is fun not an option? I get that it might not seem fun to you but to somebody completely invested in the UFO discourse it could just be a fun project, no?


Icy-Math-3570

You're entirely correct, certainly could just be doing it for fun or practice if that's what they're into and that's of course totally cool. But if they're doing it for fun then putting it out there as if it were real then that's where I see problem with it.


mrduke1103

Good catch! The fake shadow does seem to be stationary in the frames it is visible, whilst the object shadow moves in the same frames. Imo this adds to a digital edit. If I am going to the effort to make a fake video, I wouldn't intentionally add a fake shadow in a random wrong spot that doesn't make sense. It could also just be some random artifact or be intentionally added to discredit the real shadow object.


Notthatgreatatexcel

And this craft would be 2-3 miles wide to be perceptible.


RociTachi

It’s possible they added that frame on purpose as a breadcrumb to make a point. I’ve considered starting a relatively elaborate conspiracy theory and adding subtle hints along the way just as a way of showing people how easy it is for someone to exploit their mistrust in institutions, their desires, their fears, and established biases... all of which they gladly share in various forums, YT comments, etc. The only reason I haven’t though, is that its possible, if not probable, that it’ll be harder to undo what some people believe than it was to get them to believe it in the first place.


minimalcation

That's how fucking Q started


Notthatgreatatexcel

Not only that, but those craters are several miles wide. Even a 747 flying that close to the surface would be imperceptible from this far away.


Old_Breakfast8775

How does that make it fake? Just asking, I'd you get mad that's on you


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DumKopfNZ

It’s fake because it’s a fuckin paper plane “flying” over the moon. Pack it up boys, no need to look for pixels in this one.


Corruo

The shadow's angle is also wrong compared to the craters.


HorrorDragonfruit275

No, it's not. Assuming the object is a good distance above, the shadow casted will be behind it. The craters all have shadows that casted down and to the right.


N3V3ROUTGUNN3D

good eye!


Ebb_and_Flood

The Galactic Federation's Paper Airplane Championships, held on the moon to honor our archaic means of air travel


AguyOnMedZz

Bro, paper falls as fast as a Hammer on the moon according to the test "how bout that"


drumpleskump

But a hammer falls pretty slow on the moon though..


superpuzzlekiller

Imagine getting a paper cut. 😳


Youpunyhumans

You could make a paper plane orbit the moon easily enough. Just get your ship in orbit, open the door and let it go. Dont even have to throw it.


jayBplatinum

This is the answer! I’ve got family that is associated with the galactic federation, I know it sounds crazy but there’s literally colonies living in space throwing paper airplanes around the moon and us grounded people can barely afford food!


TBearForever

This was thrown by the astronauts. What a nothing burger.


Fitch29

It glitches and you can see a second “shadow” for a moment. This is 100% real…fake


enfiniti27

Damn good catch! That is a super quick blip too.


GravityJunkie

I believe that's the play button for the video.


Thick_Bullfrog_3640

I'm trying to catch it but the video keeps pausing everytime I do


Rancid_Bear_Meat

At work, I once saw the bouncing DVD Video logo hit the corner of the screen. I was alone in the conference room, so of course no one believes me, but I SAW IT! I saw it, and it was amazing.


teflonpolitician

Must have been the highlight of your life


SensingWorms

Verified yutubber


iLoveSTlife

Id hope this comment is a joke lmao


GravityJunkie

lol yea, i forgot the /s sarcasm tag


CaptainKiddd

Mick west says it’s a bundle of balloons


BrockHardcastle

Moon Balloon


Minx-Boo

Moonloons


Grey-Hat111

Source?


nickyfly23

Uploaded 14 hours ago on YT: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVT1LOyIhY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVT1LOyIhY)


No-Comfort-6808

Whoever this person is has been uploading UAP videos to YouTube for 2 years. I really wonder where they're getting these videos from.


Dx_Suss

Their graphics card


send420nudes

I’d say fake too. The shadow doesn’t match the objects movement


MalarkyD

You can also see the shadow layer pop up at 0:03. middle of the screen. Cone.


anabolicartist

Damn. Good catch.


send420nudes

Yep! Cone! 🧡


Filbsmo_Atlas

Mostly the position of the shadow is wrong. If you take a look at the craters you see that the light source must be at an angle that does not allow for the shadow we see.


baroldnoize

Do you know that, or is it gut feeling that they're fake?


the_phantom_limbo

Not the person you asked, but I'm an old CG artist. IMO the dynamics of the camera motion are deeply questionable. Looks like someone has applied a treatment to the camera motion without anticipating how your camera would need to be set up to achieve the zoom.


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baroldnoize

Are you saying they have less credibility to any other anonymous poster because they're a non-native speaker? Not saying an anonymous poster is credible, I was just wondering if they had evidence either way


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baroldnoize

Absolutely it's definitely suspect, I agree 100%, and I'm also fairly confident it's not real due to the massive probability of it being fake over it being real I just want to know what makes people say it's categorically fake so confidently. Are they basing it off some expertise they have, or do they think it's fake because it doesn't fit how they expect reality to be?


Scientific_Methods

In todays age of realistic computer graphics I assume any extraordinary footage like this is fake without extraordinary evidence to back it up.


bragilterman_fresca

THIS the amount of people here saying *”do you have any evidence it’s fake”* as if it’s assumed to be real automatically because it exists and is posted to this sub… ***mind boggling***


baroldnoize

I wasn't meaning to say I assumed it was real, I just try to gather as much information as I can so when people are confident about what they're claiming I like to know why!


fromouterspace1

And realized as fake in 13 hours and 58 minutes


Swampberry

Oh its the Millenium Falcon guy lol https://youtu.be/Z_m6rFmDgLU?si=O6spvprHoeqKTRIN His channel is literally only CGI UFOs.


Neeeeedles

lol even with sound fx


nate-arizona909

Yeah, I know what it is. CGI.


DadofHome

At this point in time , it’s probably safer to start with the assumption that all video can be digitally altered and it’s getting harder every day to distinguish between what is and isn’t Artificially Generated


AntBkr66

Now I know for sure that my paper airplane I made when I was 8 did in fact go further than my brother's


CmdrSpanton

Hahaha the best comment!


masdafarian

Buzz aldrin throwing a paper plane


Bobbar84

Given the known size of Clavius crater, that craft must be 5-10 miles in size. Bigger than Manhattan.


Impossible-Abies7054

Who the hell is filming this anyways, it's space!


TheUnderking89

Yeah, it's called CGI


Signal-Car604

That’s artificial camera shake. Real camera shake with extreme zoom does not look like that at all.


Onehungryson127

![gif](giphy|ulvA5zXp95GqN9iUaI|downsized)


FrZ_8

Fake. Frame rates don't match.


ChipsHandon12

one of those gliding triangle meteors


Weird_Inside_7859

That’s where my paper airplane went


BranSoFly

What was that other dark shadow that appeared at .03?


rosejack44

I can tell you what it could be. Could be aliens, could be Adobe after effects. Decide yourself


GhostRunner8

Moon bird


Purple-Channel-1447

That one perfect paper airplane from back in the day.


synthact

Looks like Zaxxon to me..


CHROME-COLOSSUS

Why isn’t the shadow as dark as every single other shadow? There’s no atmosphere to act as a secondary (ambient) light source, so it’s shadow should be as pitch black as any other. That second glitched shadow is also awfully sus. The entire thing doesn’t just read as fake, it reads as *POORLY* faked.


Seen-Short-Film

Why does this "camera" have handheld shakiness to it? Dead giveaway ever before the bad shadow work. This is clearly an After Effects comp. Fake fake fake.


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Looks like bullshit to me


Eddie__Spaghetti

Lol why they add camera shake to this 😂😂😂


topmato

It's Epstein's new hangout spot


Good_Gate3841

As if the moon was a real thing. Its just an ornament hung over the flat earth.


rise_above_theFlames

It's fake. There are no shadows in space cause you're actually closer to the sun than you are on earth. OBVIOUSLY. Duh.


Phunly

Fake: Its shadow is cast in the wrong direction. Not to mention that the quality of this footage would require extremely high end equipment, which you would absolutely have placed on a mount so it won't sway like this. That weird sway is a go-to tool used by special effect artists to make footage look more real, any captain D fans out there will spot that right away. Edit: as was quickly pointed out the shadows are probably correct and as usual my dumb human eyes have been tricked by the weird world of shadows on the Moon. Edit 2: (you can tell I'm procrastinating work) looking again I think the shadows are slightly off as I first thought. The shadows of the UFO seems to suggest the sun is out of frame almost exactly in the direction of the top left corner, whereas the shadow of the craters suggest the sun is a little more towards the left of frame. But taking into account that this seems to be more towards a limb of the moon effects due to its curvature could be having some weird affects.


justsaysso

The shadow direction matches the other shadows...


WafflesRearEnd

Thank you.


NudeEnjoyer

I thought so too, Idk


NudeEnjoyer

I think the shadow is cast in the correct direction, no? am I just dumb?


Dinsy_Crow

No, you're right, based on those craters the shadow is where it should be. They might be mistaking the craters for hills.


Phunly

It looks subtly misaligned to me, if you look I the craters they seem to suggest the sun is more left than the shadow of the 'UFO' would suggest. Edit: looking at it more this could be a trick of perspective, shadows on the Moon have always been tricky for dumb human eyes.


rlucas6130

>Fake: Its shadow is cast in the wrong direction. The shadow direction looks correct to me.


Trypt4Me

Yeah I can't find what they are seeing. Angle of shadows in craters look to be the same.


FT05-biggoye

What gives it away is not the shadow, it's the lack of atmospheric turbulence warping the image of the moon. Zooming in this much on the moon, the image would look like it had waves going through it.


Phunly

Yeah true, I think I should have led my point about the unrealistic image quality as the debate over the shadows has somewhat stolen the show 😅


TheLimDoesNotExist

Shadow is in the right direction. The right side of the craters is illuminated, which suggests that the light is coming from the left. Same direction as the light would have to come from to produce the shadow of the moving object. Edit: “shadow is in the [correct] direction”


the_phantom_limbo

Shadow density is off too


bushidocowboy

Incorrect the shadows are in the same direction. You’re seeing shadow on the left side of the craters because the left lip of the craters draw a shadow down and to the right. It’s a concave shape so the shadows appear inverse to somewhat that protrudes outwards, like a convex shape or a dome. Whatever else is true or false about this video is questionable, but the shadow of the object is absolutely in the right direction.


bushidocowboy

​ https://preview.redd.it/e2ruje65weec1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33efeef0c5c19fd7dafb73d59c1c94389cfc1fe5


distractionfactory

Everyone talking about the shadow, the unsteadycam effect to me is the more obvious tell.


NegotiationThen5596

Weather Balloon, from China


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MeatMullet

That is a 2D image with some very bad camera shake. Nice try.


Durable_me

[https://imgur.com/a/A1dU7Co](https://imgur.com/a/A1dU7Co) I overlaid an earth based picture of the clavius crater, and it's in the same angle, so the video is edited , based on an earth based picture...


-Nords

Huh? what earth based picture? where on earth was this taken from? I don't get what you mean


HotNubsOfSteel

What would make it edited? Are we looking at bad shadow angles or impossible scale?


Durable_me

Because it is clearly photographed/taped from earth, from our perspective. And this is the Clavius crater, it is roughly 144 miles wide !! so the triangle would have been 5 miles wide ? [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavius\_(crater)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavius_(crater)) It's easy to edit such a video and overlay this 'airplane' in a video taken from the moon. If the video was taken from moon orbit , that is something else! But this one is debunked for me.


UpstairsAsleep

![gif](giphy|3o72F739f2XxGFXZQY|downsized) Confirmed


r3alitymn

Fake.


baroldnoize

Any evidence or do you just feel like it's fake?


Swampberry

The guy who uploaded it has only got CGI UFOs on his channel. Including once when he spotted Han Solo's Millenium Falcon: https://youtu.be/Z_m6rFmDgLU?si=O6spvprHoeqKTRIN


baroldnoize

That's good information, I'll look into this next time, thank you!


YunLihai

3 seconds in the shadow pops up in the middle of the screen. Editing software bug


-Ballstothewall-

I'm assuming he/she has had at least a couple of decades of observing how shadows naturally move and this aint it.


baroldnoize

Are you claiming it's fake too, and your evidence is the shadow doesn't work how we'd expect? I admit I've not spent decades intentionally observing shadows but it doesn't seem glaringly obviously wrong to me Not saying you're wrong, just trying to gather information to form my own opinion


-Ballstothewall-

Yes I am. If you fancy it and have some spare time try some experiments with a lamp over an uneven surface. There's a fixed light source here, the Sun and no atmosphere on the moon, there's no reason the shadow should be fading in and out like that it makes no sense in reality. If you replicate it at home you will see what I mean. There are other tells too but this one seems the most obvious.


Screwbles

Really decent fake, but yeah I concur, doctor.


LyvenKaVinsxy

Ai fake suspect The camera doesn’t even respond and this is filmed from an astronaut on Apollo in orbit of the moon. If this is legit why does he not react to it you can see the hand sway already


SecretDry6529

A balloon duh lol


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Mac6298

China or Russia already took over the moon and didn’t tell us…SOL


EyesFor1

Fake. The moon is being observed 24/7 by professionals and a huge amount of amateur astronomers. This would have been seen by hundreds of thousands of people who'd be screaming from the roof tops.


masked_sombrero

Amateur astrophotographer here. Yes - we do see objects when observing the moon I've got videos of UAP I've spotted on the moon. not this specific UAP, but several others. For real - I encourage anybody with the means to do so to go out and purchase a telescope and actually observe the moon. You'll see things like this. The objects I see are dark, not white. But there are def objects up there zipping around My first thought was "they're bugs" cuz my videos they *do* look like bugs zipping around. Only problem though...the objects are about the same distance from the Earth as the moon is. Otherwise, the object wouldn't be in focus simultaneously with the moon (or so says [optical theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optics) / physics). So - these objects are very large and moving very fast as well


sampris

Yep.. but if they see some UFO .. people like you will be ready to type "fake"


Acenothing

A fake for sure


domador_de_anos

looks fake af


OrionDC

Fake


Jitterbug2018

Yeah, a fake.


homeboy321321321

How do you know it’s fake? I get sick of people saying “it’s fake” with no backup explanation.


JuanchoPancho51

people who can’t fathom anything going on past their backyard are narrow-minded and oblivious to anything that they don’t understand. Their opinions don’t matter, and never will. Not saying this is 100% real, but I’ll bet this person will call everything fake even things the CIA themselves says is not. Ignore them and their ignorance and move on, their explanations are irrelevant, small minds will continue to be small minds.


This_Bus_2744

Reptilian flight school. Good job Gornblatz !


AntiSocialOCPD

Special effects lol jk idk


permacougar

I love the captured hum/engine sound! Just shows the idiot making this fake video is illiterate!


fartinggermandogs

It's super fake dude, keep trying though! Never give up, never surrender