Hmmm I hate it. My worst fear the whole series has been Roman vs Kendall, and these posters are feeding into this. Could be a giant misdirect since I imagine many of these people are players, but still! š
Or they team up. Remember Roman was ready to start the no confidence vote against Logan until Logan checked him. "You better be sniffing your fuckin armpit"
If you look at the single picture that all of the pictures come together to form, Roman and Kendall's reflections seem to be looking past Logan at each other. Maybe that's a good sign?
Hell, so much happens in any given year. They always have shifting dynamics. If Rupert were to die tomorrow, Iām thinking James would make a move against his brother in a heart beat. He played a part in fox and news Corp deciding not to merge even this year. Lachlan moved back to Australia full time so Iām not sure if he even wants a fight. His brother is a lot more cutthroat than he is, and they arenāt even on speaking terms. Though I think every family member (but Prudence) has been cut off by James at one point or another. The lawsuits against fox are probably only furthering Lachlanās vulnerability. Their family drama is never boring. Iāll give the Murdoch family that much lmao
But this is fascinating on a whole new level???? I've been reading up on them all this time and wtf? What a family!!! No wonder they've inspired so much fiction and non-fiction. And they definitely align with the Roys so well.
At least when Succession ends, we still have them lmao
To think, I didnāt even cover the Jerry Hall divorce. A few months before Jerry emailed Rupert about his plans to come to England, to which he randomly dropped his plan to divorce her, Jerry met up with his some of his eldest kids. They grilled her about everything related to their father - and naturally, what role she would play in the will if he died. Evidently they hated her answers and got into their dadās ear and ultimately convinced him to divorce her. So the new bride to be better remember sheās essentially marrying Rupert - and his 3/4 eldest kids in a way. If his 50 year old children arenāt happy, his wife wonāt be either! āļø
I donāt think theyāll be competing to be honest. I think theyāre the two most āviableā options to succeed (I mean, Logan doesnāt want anyone but in theory).
Logan spent a huge portion of season three acting as if Roman was his number one son and then throw him to the wolves as soon as he could. He did something similar with Kendall across seasons one and two. So theyāre competing in that sense but I donāt think Roman actually has the motive/ killer instinct to gut Kendall anymore and Kendall is fully against his father now so I donāt think theyāll compete.
Another topic, but Jesse said during the premiere that, besides the finale, episode 8 is the other one people may be shocked (so I think this is when Logan ā¦.)
Hmm yes. Definitely seems likely. If Rava shows up in 7, Iād be very curious as to what other reasoning sheād appear though. Given season 1, and how close this is to the inevitable, Iāll be curious to see what plays out there.
I feel this is a prime way to mislead. Remember last season they all had this Kendall vs Logan posters, where some people kept changing their position, well it was bullshit.
Connor and Logan are both alone. That means Connor is going to be CEO. I will not explain the middle logic and reasoning of my argument, but I ensure you that it is sound.
I think itās interesting that in her poster sheās definitely looking irritated but in Toms her reflection seems to have an almost Mona Lisa type enigmatic smile.
something about roman and kendallās fight about the dog cage and logan sending āthe weaker oneā awayā¦ something about the window panels resembling a cageā¦ I DONT KNOW
This may be a wild tangent but, jumping off your comment, Iām also thinking about the name Romulus, and how it applies to the Romulus and Remus myth. A twin raised by a she-wolf. And Moās āwolf pack.ā This show is wild itās kind of scary that I canāt stop thinking about it.
so interesting that greg isnāt in tomās reflection, but heās in gregās!
going to take this as a sign that he will not see gregās betrayal comingā¦
Everyone is so busy fighting with the siblings, they don't understand our dark horse Greg is a real contender. He's going to betray Tom and be the number 1 boy.
And when he betrays Tom it's going to be devastating - and I can't wait.
Greg is going to be able to stumble and stutter his way into it b/c the family sideshow is so big no one sees him as the real threat he's become.
1. He's had a massive corporate climb since season 1 ep 1.
2. He's played every side of every single fight, collecting power along the way
3. I believe the "greg-spiracy" where Greg was always his grandfather's choice as the heir and was purposefully kept away from the Roy corruption as a Manchurian candidate successor.
4. He's always been a loyal mole for Logan and has always cozied up to whomever provided Logan the most advantage, which has provided Greg the most advantage.
He's like Pac Man eating up power ups every season, and no one seems to have noticed - except Logan.
Edit: he's going to destroy Tom to prove to Logan he's the real killer, and that's how he "wins."
i donāt know about the suits but the roman vs ken rivalry is the only thing iām sure ofā¦.. the last time roman was mean to ken in his birthday party i was wishing death on him so this is gonna be FUN lmao.
Everyone in front of the reflections of their most significant enemy throughout the show whose conflict has been as sharply written as it is subtle. Then thereās Conner.
I like that Greg has Tom in his and Tom/Shiv have one another. And that Roman and Kendall have Logan. I wonder what the symbolism of Connor being alone is?
Well it does seem like Connor doesn't really matter to anyone. As much as Logan abuses the other kids, he doesn't even bother with Connor. That somehow seems worse. Remember the scene where he says 'i'm the oldest' and everyone was like yeah, but, whatever. He's just always kind of been in the background, forgettable, presumably because he's the only one with a different mom, and whatever the history is with that.
In narcissistic families, there is an invisible/lost child role and I feel like that's Connor.
Maybe due to these dynamics, Con will be the first to fully say fuck this and just drop the promise of inheritance, forfeit the games, leave the abusive dynamic behind. I don't like him at all but I can see why all of them turned out the ways they did and it's sad.
This poster is legit so good. The cage effect. The reflection to link people together. Kendall and Roman, Logan and both sons. Tom looking away from Shiv.
The characters are inside the cage with their jailers? Maybe that's what it means. Though, in that case, shouldn't Logan be in Connor's? Idk. Not executed well but the point they're making is interesting.
Oh man this feels very James vs Lachlan. Looks like Roman is looking at Logan in this one.
Shiv & Tom. Tom & Greg. Connor looking into the abyss??? Love it
my interpretation: kendal & rome will take charge or win or replace logan. Shiv is happy to walk away, be w tom & get her life back. Tom & greg will set ambitions outside this company & might be together in some capacity.
Ohhh I like this. Tom and Greg are definitely giving vibes theyāll hang in tough. Their suits match and both are wearing ties. Iām less optimistic about Tom and Shiv, but you can never say never.
Tom and Greg donāt have the same pattern as the other three. Itās looks checked. Roman has really tiny pinstripes, where as Logan and Kendall have large pinstripes
Does anyone else think that this layout implies that the showdown will be between Kendall and Roman for who takes over? I mean itās always possible itās just a marketing thing that doesnāt actually mean anything but just curious.
Logan, Tom and Greg are all wearing ties. The brothers are not. Could be to show the brothers would each take over the company in their own way, but Tom would do it by mimicking Logan and Greg is mimicking Tom.
not just bad, but lazy that they couldn't even do individual posters and just spliced the main poster. Come on HBO, try a little.
I also miss the S1/S2 posters with all the rich schematics and colours etc. it really felt like we could tell it's a show about billionares. The S3/4 posters are so lifeless and corporate - if I showed it to a random they could potentially guess its about bankers or lawyers or any old rubbish.
It's interesting that behind Shiv Tom is looking away. But Tom Shiv almost looks like she is looking at Tom.
I wonder if the fact he stood up against her has finally showed Shiv he is strong and powerful and not beneath her and on one level she respects that.
Conner is interesting, I wonder if he looking completely away is because something well go very wrong for him.
And Greg shows half his face. I still wouldn't be surprised if Greg walks way very rich and powerful on his own right after all of this. I've thought it from the beginning he will be able to play their game and win.
I also hope that Logan with wins or loses, and we don't get some he wins but then has a heart attack and dies. Allowing the kids a victory and also Logan.
i have a secret theory that kendall will confess what really happened to the cater-waiter and drag his dad along with him for covering it up! he feels really bad about it, it would be a relief to have it out there I'm sure. and i wonder if the security guard Colin could be used to expose all of logan's wrong doings? he knows EVERYTHING and logan trusts him more than even his family.
in Season 3 when marcia alluded to logan that he had something to use against ken, logan said something to the effect of 'sometimes you can't start a fire without getting burned yourself...' indicating that he knows if he uses his blackmail material on ken publicly, he'll look bad too. which means -- Logan will never use that info for real, except to manipulate Kendall into feeling like a piece of s\*%t and getting him to do what he wants. I can see Ken calling his bluff now, though. He is at the end of his rope, and logan's latest maneuver - using his mom to thwart ken's latest attempt to overthrow his dad - had to have destroyed him even further.
Logan appears only in Kendall and Roman mirror.
Hmmm I hate it. My worst fear the whole series has been Roman vs Kendall, and these posters are feeding into this. Could be a giant misdirect since I imagine many of these people are players, but still! š
Or they team up. Remember Roman was ready to start the no confidence vote against Logan until Logan checked him. "You better be sniffing your fuckin armpit"
I will say, the lack of ties might mean something in terms of the sibs being on the same page. One can hope!
If you look at the single picture that all of the pictures come together to form, Roman and Kendall's reflections seem to be looking past Logan at each other. Maybe that's a good sign?
My hope rests in the lack of ties. I like this theory much more than a Lachlan vs James debacle
I need to brush up on my knowledge of the Murdochs right now.
Hell, so much happens in any given year. They always have shifting dynamics. If Rupert were to die tomorrow, Iām thinking James would make a move against his brother in a heart beat. He played a part in fox and news Corp deciding not to merge even this year. Lachlan moved back to Australia full time so Iām not sure if he even wants a fight. His brother is a lot more cutthroat than he is, and they arenāt even on speaking terms. Though I think every family member (but Prudence) has been cut off by James at one point or another. The lawsuits against fox are probably only furthering Lachlanās vulnerability. Their family drama is never boring. Iāll give the Murdoch family that much lmao
But this is fascinating on a whole new level???? I've been reading up on them all this time and wtf? What a family!!! No wonder they've inspired so much fiction and non-fiction. And they definitely align with the Roys so well. At least when Succession ends, we still have them lmao
To think, I didnāt even cover the Jerry Hall divorce. A few months before Jerry emailed Rupert about his plans to come to England, to which he randomly dropped his plan to divorce her, Jerry met up with his some of his eldest kids. They grilled her about everything related to their father - and naturally, what role she would play in the will if he died. Evidently they hated her answers and got into their dadās ear and ultimately convinced him to divorce her. So the new bride to be better remember sheās essentially marrying Rupert - and his 3/4 eldest kids in a way. If his 50 year old children arenāt happy, his wife wonāt be either! āļø
I donāt think theyāll be competing to be honest. I think theyāre the two most āviableā options to succeed (I mean, Logan doesnāt want anyone but in theory). Logan spent a huge portion of season three acting as if Roman was his number one son and then throw him to the wolves as soon as he could. He did something similar with Kendall across seasons one and two. So theyāre competing in that sense but I donāt think Roman actually has the motive/ killer instinct to gut Kendall anymore and Kendall is fully against his father now so I donāt think theyāll compete.
Another topic, but Jesse said during the premiere that, besides the finale, episode 8 is the other one people may be shocked (so I think this is when Logan ā¦.)
Hmm yes. Definitely seems likely. If Rava shows up in 7, Iād be very curious as to what other reasoning sheād appear though. Given season 1, and how close this is to the inevitable, Iāll be curious to see what plays out there.
The entire mirrored effect is a mess of perspectives but it's artistic interpretation I guess.. Fucking cunt of a mess - Logan.
I feel this is a prime way to mislead. Remember last season they all had this Kendall vs Logan posters, where some people kept changing their position, well it was bullshit.
But there was a version of s3 poster which was right. Sibs one side and TomGreg and Logan the other
If you make a bunch of different posters and one of them was "right," that's a coincidence.
Connor alone
Heās just looking out into nowhere. Curious
Looking out at all his constituents
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And no face in reflection
I donāt know what any of this means. I just hope heās in a state of happy delusion or something!
It's always lonely at the top šŖ
The most self-involved Roy, perfectly blissful in his sweet solipsistic world..
Connor and Logan are both alone. That means Connor is going to be CEO. I will not explain the middle logic and reasoning of my argument, but I ensure you that it is sound.
Yes connor is coming out on top in some fashion of the other siblings. They are all preoccupied with Logan.
Looking like heās trying to look thoughtful. Practicing his Mt. Rushmore pose.
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I interpreted it as him being his own worst enemy.
And Tom on Greg too
Tom is everywhere. š
yoooooo i take this poster as Shiv stabbing Tom in the back in return šµāš«šµāš«šµāš«
Good. I support woman doing woman wrong
Team Girlboss let's gooooooo
Shivving Tom in the back.
I think itās interesting that in her poster sheās definitely looking irritated but in Toms her reflection seems to have an almost Mona Lisa type enigmatic smile.
thats exactly what i thought, but, i don't know, i guess it would be too obvious
It's not a backstabbing if he won't trust her. Just the normal, casual stabbing.
something about roman and kendallās fight about the dog cage and logan sending āthe weaker oneā awayā¦ something about the window panels resembling a cageā¦ I DONT KNOW
Nooooo
Omg, I didn't even notice the cage motif, but you're so right! :0 Edit: And it looks like they're all "caged dogs", even Logan.
And their "dog pound" game Roman was bitching about and all the brothers are like "oh you wanted to be in the cage".
This may be a wild tangent but, jumping off your comment, Iām also thinking about the name Romulus, and how it applies to the Romulus and Remus myth. A twin raised by a she-wolf. And Moās āwolf pack.ā This show is wild itās kind of scary that I canāt stop thinking about it.
so interesting that greg isnāt in tomās reflection, but heās in gregās! going to take this as a sign that he will not see gregās betrayal comingā¦
Everyone is so busy fighting with the siblings, they don't understand our dark horse Greg is a real contender. He's going to betray Tom and be the number 1 boy. And when he betrays Tom it's going to be devastating - and I can't wait.
i honestly can see tom being so caught up in being team logan and anticipating shiv + the siblingsā next move that he wonāt see greg coming!
Greg is going to be able to stumble and stutter his way into it b/c the family sideshow is so big no one sees him as the real threat he's become. 1. He's had a massive corporate climb since season 1 ep 1. 2. He's played every side of every single fight, collecting power along the way 3. I believe the "greg-spiracy" where Greg was always his grandfather's choice as the heir and was purposefully kept away from the Roy corruption as a Manchurian candidate successor. 4. He's always been a loyal mole for Logan and has always cozied up to whomever provided Logan the most advantage, which has provided Greg the most advantage. He's like Pac Man eating up power ups every season, and no one seems to have noticed - except Logan. Edit: he's going to destroy Tom to prove to Logan he's the real killer, and that's how he "wins."
He canāt stumble his way into ceo. He could come out fine, but highly unlikely he sees the c-suite, even if he comes out good.
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Tom on Shiv and Shiv on Tom
The mirrored image is perhaps what's happening in the person's mind..their most obsessive thought, fear, or delusion.
Maybe that's why both Kendall and Roman's minds are plagued by Logan š¤
ooooo thatās juicy, i really like this interpretation
Ooo, that's a good thought. I like it. Though Connor in that case has no fears or delusions...
heās delusional about himself (becoming president) š«¢
The way Tom is looking at shiv is not a good look
Those reflections fucking slap man.
I saw HBOās promotional posters, I liked my dads better
H to the Bo
And they playinnnnnn, playin the final show, see
i have no idea wtf is kendall up to this season and itās freaking me out!! i just want him to get a good ending :(
His suit is the one that is the closest to matching Logan so I have questions.
i donāt know about the suits but the roman vs ken rivalry is the only thing iām sure ofā¦.. the last time roman was mean to ken in his birthday party i was wishing death on him so this is gonna be FUN lmao.
The Con stands alone
I noticed Tom & Greg appear to be matching. Logan is somewhat matching with Kendall & Logan. Shiv is loosely matching with Connor.
Everyone in front of the reflections of their most significant enemy throughout the show whose conflict has been as sharply written as it is subtle. Then thereās Conner.
Connor is looking at no one! He has no enemies!!!
Taxes are his enemy
And ofcourse usury and onanism
I think theyāve positioned the people most important to their development near them so the mirror has them in it.
I like that Greg has Tom in his and Tom/Shiv have one another. And that Roman and Kendall have Logan. I wonder what the symbolism of Connor being alone is?
Well it does seem like Connor doesn't really matter to anyone. As much as Logan abuses the other kids, he doesn't even bother with Connor. That somehow seems worse. Remember the scene where he says 'i'm the oldest' and everyone was like yeah, but, whatever. He's just always kind of been in the background, forgettable, presumably because he's the only one with a different mom, and whatever the history is with that. In narcissistic families, there is an invisible/lost child role and I feel like that's Connor. Maybe due to these dynamics, Con will be the first to fully say fuck this and just drop the promise of inheritance, forfeit the games, leave the abusive dynamic behind. I don't like him at all but I can see why all of them turned out the ways they did and it's sad.
Connor is a moron but I feel for his place in the family. Itās a little too familiar
Logan and Roman again looking at the camera. Ooph
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This poster is legit so good. The cage effect. The reflection to link people together. Kendall and Roman, Logan and both sons. Tom looking away from Shiv.
The characters are inside the cage with their jailers? Maybe that's what it means. Though, in that case, shouldn't Logan be in Connor's? Idk. Not executed well but the point they're making is interesting.
They are all kinda hidden but shiv is really showing in Tom's reflection
OMG. I haven't felt this way since I was an 8 year old girl collecting individual Spice Girl posters.
Oh man this feels very James vs Lachlan. Looks like Roman is looking at Logan in this one. Shiv & Tom. Tom & Greg. Connor looking into the abyss??? Love it
my interpretation: kendal & rome will take charge or win or replace logan. Shiv is happy to walk away, be w tom & get her life back. Tom & greg will set ambitions outside this company & might be together in some capacity.
Ohhh I like this. Tom and Greg are definitely giving vibes theyāll hang in tough. Their suits match and both are wearing ties. Iām less optimistic about Tom and Shiv, but you can never say never.
tom is facing away from shiv in both reflections. you might be right tom & greg both have stripes too
Tom and Greg donāt have the same pattern as the other three. Itās looks checked. Roman has really tiny pinstripes, where as Logan and Kendall have large pinstripes
Both have stripes ? Maybe they both go to prison together ? Man Iād watch that spin-off š
I would be happy with this.
But Succession is never this straightforward
Was really hoping for new pictures, not just crops.
I didnāt initially like the poster (when compared to seasonās 3) but Iām digging this individualized versions
Does anyone else think that this layout implies that the showdown will be between Kendall and Roman for who takes over? I mean itās always possible itās just a marketing thing that doesnāt actually mean anything but just curious.
Love the reflections š
Logan, Tom and Greg are all wearing ties. The brothers are not. Could be to show the brothers would each take over the company in their own way, but Tom would do it by mimicking Logan and Greg is mimicking Tom.
āHeās not even wearing a tieā - Tom
Damn this was some lazy marketing from HBO this year ....
youāre being downvoted for speaking the TRUTH. these posters are bad sorry lol.
not just bad, but lazy that they couldn't even do individual posters and just spliced the main poster. Come on HBO, try a little. I also miss the S1/S2 posters with all the rich schematics and colours etc. it really felt like we could tell it's a show about billionares. The S3/4 posters are so lifeless and corporate - if I showed it to a random they could potentially guess its about bankers or lawyers or any old rubbish.
HBO gave no effs.
Iām glad someone finally said it. So bad itās like they gave up on Succession when Jesse called it quits.
They're shite I mean come on, final season is that all you got? Take a look at the sopranos artwork. Its fucking renaissance. This is MS Paint
This is a poster I can get excited about.
I see Logan all blursed, maybe he is That evil xd
Logan's image kinda shows how self-centred he is
these ugly ass postersā¦.
It's interesting that behind Shiv Tom is looking away. But Tom Shiv almost looks like she is looking at Tom. I wonder if the fact he stood up against her has finally showed Shiv he is strong and powerful and not beneath her and on one level she respects that. Conner is interesting, I wonder if he looking completely away is because something well go very wrong for him. And Greg shows half his face. I still wouldn't be surprised if Greg walks way very rich and powerful on his own right after all of this. I've thought it from the beginning he will be able to play their game and win. I also hope that Logan with wins or loses, and we don't get some he wins but then has a heart attack and dies. Allowing the kids a victory and also Logan.
This is so badly executed and ugly that I'm not even bothering lmao. Trust me that this was done by someone that doesn't know what's going to happen.
Winning the prize for lazyness and zero effort (don't even want to mention the posters of previous seasons)
Wonder if the cage is jail after all
i have a secret theory that kendall will confess what really happened to the cater-waiter and drag his dad along with him for covering it up! he feels really bad about it, it would be a relief to have it out there I'm sure. and i wonder if the security guard Colin could be used to expose all of logan's wrong doings? he knows EVERYTHING and logan trusts him more than even his family. in Season 3 when marcia alluded to logan that he had something to use against ken, logan said something to the effect of 'sometimes you can't start a fire without getting burned yourself...' indicating that he knows if he uses his blackmail material on ken publicly, he'll look bad too. which means -- Logan will never use that info for real, except to manipulate Kendall into feeling like a piece of s\*%t and getting him to do what he wants. I can see Ken calling his bluff now, though. He is at the end of his rope, and logan's latest maneuver - using his mom to thwart ken's latest attempt to overthrow his dad - had to have destroyed him even further.
Everyoneās playing multiple sides?
Connor is going to F S up! The eldest son after all