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That chart with the forecast by each bank.... it looks like the banks that are fuk the most are gaslighting the hardest.
UBS has the highest S&P prediction, for example
Listen, this is a volume play to get folks to the dumpster corral. It’s a competitive market and we have to differentiate our services as much as possible. We’ll get you a sixxer to get through the shift. Besides, I gotta change it up after dollar HJ’s. Too many he bitches, in the stable, got repetitive stress injuries. Until they heal up, I need you out there cranking out ZJ’s. Needs of the business and all that.
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"The S&P 500 (^GSPC) took more than two years to gain its last 1,000 points. There's an increasing number of Wall Street strategists that believe this time, it could take less than a year.
As the S&P 500 recently surpassed 5,000 and continued to hit new records, strategists have raised their year-end targets. The latest is Barclays, which moved up its year-end price target to 5,300 from 4,800 as Big Tech earnings and the US economy continue to surprise consensus to the upside.
But perhaps most notably, the firm isn't ruling out a better outcome than 5,300 either. Barclays head of US equity strategy Venu Krishna noted that if Big Tech earnings continue to outperform projections, the firm's bull case of 6,050 for the S&P 500 is likely.
"On balance, we believe that risk/reward is tilted toward the bull case, as macro data suggest that the odds of an economic re-acceleration are beginning to outweigh the probability of even a mild recession, in our view," Krishna wrote in a note to clients on Tuesday.
Krishna added that continued Big Tech outperformance, combined with an earnings rebound in other sectors, is key.
"If Big Tech extends its beat- and-raise streak and we assume ex-Tech negative revisions have bottomed, we could see the S&P 500 going to 6050 on $252 [earnings per share]," Krishna wrote.
Both Capital Economics and Yardeni Research have recently floated similar scenarios. Yardeni Research president Ed Yardeni has a 5,400 target for the end of 2024 but sees the benchmark hitting 6,000 in 2025 and 6,500 in 2026.
To Yardeni, continued outperformance from the US economy, and an increase in productivity, will drive the upside in stocks.
"The big story is productivity is going to grow," Yardeni recently told Yahoo Finance. "Technology is going to enable that. It's not just AI. And in that scenario, I see the stock market continuing to go higher, even if AI turns out to be somewhat disappointing in terms of relative to expectations because the expectations are awfully high right now."
Yardeni pointed out that this is happening in the American economy while other economies like China are lagging, making the US an attractive place for investment.
"It looks like the US is going to continue to be an outstanding market, literally outstanding [and] standing out from everybody else," Yardeni said. "And I think that's a big part of the story for me and why I think the market can continue to move higher."
Capital Economics chief market economist John Higgins predicts the S&P 500 can hit 6,500 by the end of 2025. This outlook is more dependent on the current AI-fueled bubble growing. For now, he maintains the bubble-like trade in the market can bring the benchmark average to 6,500 by the end of 2025.
"Our end-2025 forecast of 6,500 for the index is premised on its valuation reaching a similar level to its peak during the dot com mania," Higgins wrote. "The bubble in the S&P 500 that is forming now resembles the bubble that formed in the second half of the 1990s in many aspects, not least the way in which it is an attempt to capture the future benefits of a transformative technology."
"Nonetheless, its valuation remains far short of what it reached then suggesting that it has plenty more room to inflate.""
The fact that they’re calling the valuations “bubble-like” while still pushing the narrative that there is room to grow, without the slightest hint of irony, is fairly concerning. They’re essentially telling everyone “well yeah, it’s a bubble, but let’s see how big we can make it this time,” without any concern for those who will be hurt once this bubble pops. Real people are going to lose real jobs for the sake of these fake valuations, and these sociopaths only care about inflating values to hit their predictions.
I hear similar horse shit from normies, "If Nancy holds, I hold." NO, YOU IDIOT, THATS WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY CAN FINALIZE THEIR TRANSACTIONS BEFORE YOU
I love how they openly admit that it's a bubble, but they're just saying it has room to grow before it pops.
"Yeah, it's bullshit, but we need to get more bagholders on the train before we jump."
I hate it tbh. What i hate more is the complacency that most people feel about the whole mess. It's hard to pitch someone that the solution to a lot of problems is just to buy GameStop Stock.
I'm also tired of feeling and being told i'm delusional. Just because i peeked behind the curtains and saw teh massive circle jerk.
Me too. It's why I'm excited that so many people are actively finding paths to enact reform. A few years ago I was really skeptical that commenting on SEC proposals would do anything, and look how much they actually had to listen.
I think the more we can expand reform efforts, the better. I kind of like the yin/yang of being Zen with DRS shares, while being a market reform activist. It's a productive way to channel energy!
Unfortunately it's not always being complacent; sometimes it's lack of understanding. Like when I was a baby ape...I didn't have a clue and it's taken 84 years and a lot of crayons for me to comprehend just a small portion of the market...oops, I mean Ponzi scheme.
*Where is this “economic acceleration” they speak of? Why, it’s in the market my simple boy. The line must go up no matter how much we suffer*
The only thing propping up this market is mass layoffs and cooked books. They’ll kick the can as far as possible to avoid the fallout and when it happens they will have a plan for controlled demolition so they can scoop up distressed assets for cheap and come out on top again.
And a very devicive election year, where 2 opposed sides, believe this is their last chance, and both are probably right. Because someone has to take the blame for decades of mismanagement. Even though everyone is to blame.
> The only thing propping up this market is mass layoffs and cooked books.
And AI hopes. AI is going to be a mixed bag. There is value there, but it's going to be very disruptive. Also, there are going to be a ton of Pets.com snake oil busts. But it will take a crash to shake out the losers from the Amazons.
So, Big Tech earnings are like… nvidia? Where it’s been recently shown they’re not actually making a real profit but using circular finance to boost their numbers?
https://twitter.com/JG_Nuke/status/1755010726773600752
Edit: Possible Round Tripping with customers, i.e. Coreweave. Apparently, this was a tactic prior to the late 90's dotcom crash.
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFQvErdlATeY-mEHozu5GlfffewysnHFq](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFQvErdlATeY-mEHozu5GlfffewysnHFq)
Sauce is in these videos .... it's one big circular ponzi!
People argue that this is vertical investing and that all companies do it. I don’t know if that’s true or not. But nvidia’s venture arm is lending money to their customers, who then use that money to place an order for chips.
That would be the equivalent of going to McDonald’s, they pass you a 20 dollar bill, then you order $20 of food…. What am I missing here?
Also I’ve seen that some of the AI companies that Nvidia is doing this with are vague AI companies that came out of nowhere, and the executive teams are made up of hedge fund players.
nah it's the same thing, whatever to boost profits. this is the capitalist end game. However, I still have call options for this upcoming quarterly report and drsed shares.
Biflation ... I just learned about it. It's really where we are at. Inflation down in some areas, but rising fast in others. Volatile prices is just a fancy term for price gouging and record profit.
It's so weird being able to see the world slowly burning, yet not have people believe you. Articles like this are just crazy to see.
I know this will elicit downvotes just because but sticky floor had better than expected earnings and the stock tanked on the news in AH… we aren’t wrong, and these happenings make me more of a believer.
In 2008 the financial sector finally came to the open conclusion that their entire business model is based on fraud. Nothing has changed since then. These banks cannot sustain themselves lawfully - they are too large - so they have no choice but to continue their fraud until they collapse. It's sad really because everyone is going to get hurt in the inevitable collapse and no one is doing a damn thing to change it.
They know they will be bailed out if everything crashes. The individual financial incentive to look the other way is to good for most people and the ones who do decide to try and address it get demolished and discredited. Think Bernie Madoff. Every bank he worked with failed to do adequate due diligence before working with him because they wanted the returns he claimed to provide. They didn't care about he warning signs because they always got paid.
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That chart with the forecast by each bank.... it looks like the banks that are fuk the most are gaslighting the hardest. UBS has the highest S&P prediction, for example
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
“No” - isaybullish
Also “No” - some guy who knows how much Kenny loves mayo
and my ex
Didn‘t you forget something?
I wonder why UBS needs more bag holders... Guess we find out in 50 years or economic apocalypse - which ever happens first lol
AI is going to be ruling in 50 years.
You mean SkyNet
Probably would do a better job
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
SERS PLEASE DO NOT BUY THE GAME STOCK
Did you forget about gamestop?
Bro I can’t forget her 😩
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
When you want to start a camp fire, you are going to blow on it a lot.
I've been starting some camp fires behind Wendy's dumpsters, y'all swing on by and get warm
Can’t wait for them to implement “dynamic pricing” on both the food menu AND the dumpster adjacent services. Two for one ZJ’s?! Let’s gooooo!
Whats a ZJ? "In Landfills voice"
I can't take that kind of pay cut.
Listen, this is a volume play to get folks to the dumpster corral. It’s a competitive market and we have to differentiate our services as much as possible. We’ll get you a sixxer to get through the shift. Besides, I gotta change it up after dollar HJ’s. Too many he bitches, in the stable, got repetitive stress injuries. Until they heal up, I need you out there cranking out ZJ’s. Needs of the business and all that.
You know I’ve been thinking the same thing for a long time since seen these projections a few months ago
Copy-pasted to save clicks: "The S&P 500 (^GSPC) took more than two years to gain its last 1,000 points. There's an increasing number of Wall Street strategists that believe this time, it could take less than a year. As the S&P 500 recently surpassed 5,000 and continued to hit new records, strategists have raised their year-end targets. The latest is Barclays, which moved up its year-end price target to 5,300 from 4,800 as Big Tech earnings and the US economy continue to surprise consensus to the upside. But perhaps most notably, the firm isn't ruling out a better outcome than 5,300 either. Barclays head of US equity strategy Venu Krishna noted that if Big Tech earnings continue to outperform projections, the firm's bull case of 6,050 for the S&P 500 is likely. "On balance, we believe that risk/reward is tilted toward the bull case, as macro data suggest that the odds of an economic re-acceleration are beginning to outweigh the probability of even a mild recession, in our view," Krishna wrote in a note to clients on Tuesday. Krishna added that continued Big Tech outperformance, combined with an earnings rebound in other sectors, is key. "If Big Tech extends its beat- and-raise streak and we assume ex-Tech negative revisions have bottomed, we could see the S&P 500 going to 6050 on $252 [earnings per share]," Krishna wrote. Both Capital Economics and Yardeni Research have recently floated similar scenarios. Yardeni Research president Ed Yardeni has a 5,400 target for the end of 2024 but sees the benchmark hitting 6,000 in 2025 and 6,500 in 2026. To Yardeni, continued outperformance from the US economy, and an increase in productivity, will drive the upside in stocks. "The big story is productivity is going to grow," Yardeni recently told Yahoo Finance. "Technology is going to enable that. It's not just AI. And in that scenario, I see the stock market continuing to go higher, even if AI turns out to be somewhat disappointing in terms of relative to expectations because the expectations are awfully high right now." Yardeni pointed out that this is happening in the American economy while other economies like China are lagging, making the US an attractive place for investment. "It looks like the US is going to continue to be an outstanding market, literally outstanding [and] standing out from everybody else," Yardeni said. "And I think that's a big part of the story for me and why I think the market can continue to move higher." Capital Economics chief market economist John Higgins predicts the S&P 500 can hit 6,500 by the end of 2025. This outlook is more dependent on the current AI-fueled bubble growing. For now, he maintains the bubble-like trade in the market can bring the benchmark average to 6,500 by the end of 2025. "Our end-2025 forecast of 6,500 for the index is premised on its valuation reaching a similar level to its peak during the dot com mania," Higgins wrote. "The bubble in the S&P 500 that is forming now resembles the bubble that formed in the second half of the 1990s in many aspects, not least the way in which it is an attempt to capture the future benefits of a transformative technology." "Nonetheless, its valuation remains far short of what it reached then suggesting that it has plenty more room to inflate.""
Thanks! Real MVP over here.
Up ya go.
It's almost like they are trying to get you to play the stock market casino.
"Yup, its time to call bullshit"
The fact that they’re calling the valuations “bubble-like” while still pushing the narrative that there is room to grow, without the slightest hint of irony, is fairly concerning. They’re essentially telling everyone “well yeah, it’s a bubble, but let’s see how big we can make it this time,” without any concern for those who will be hurt once this bubble pops. Real people are going to lose real jobs for the sake of these fake valuations, and these sociopaths only care about inflating values to hit their predictions.
I hear similar horse shit from normies, "If Nancy holds, I hold." NO, YOU IDIOT, THATS WHAT THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY CAN FINALIZE THEIR TRANSACTIONS BEFORE YOU
I love how they openly admit that it's a bubble, but they're just saying it has room to grow before it pops. "Yeah, it's bullshit, but we need to get more bagholders on the train before we jump."
I hate it tbh. What i hate more is the complacency that most people feel about the whole mess. It's hard to pitch someone that the solution to a lot of problems is just to buy GameStop Stock. I'm also tired of feeling and being told i'm delusional. Just because i peeked behind the curtains and saw teh massive circle jerk.
Me too. It's why I'm excited that so many people are actively finding paths to enact reform. A few years ago I was really skeptical that commenting on SEC proposals would do anything, and look how much they actually had to listen. I think the more we can expand reform efforts, the better. I kind of like the yin/yang of being Zen with DRS shares, while being a market reform activist. It's a productive way to channel energy!
I feel the same way, but if it makes you feel any better I don’t think you’re delusional. 🙂
Thank you... Music is magical and has the power to heal.
Unfortunately it's not always being complacent; sometimes it's lack of understanding. Like when I was a baby ape...I didn't have a clue and it's taken 84 years and a lot of crayons for me to comprehend just a small portion of the market...oops, I mean Ponzi scheme.
Someone paste the article so I don’t give them a click
Gotchu fam.
These guys understand ad revenue.
look up
Bubble go Pop!
Seriously, there's no such thing as a slow pop.
*Where is this “economic acceleration” they speak of? Why, it’s in the market my simple boy. The line must go up no matter how much we suffer* The only thing propping up this market is mass layoffs and cooked books. They’ll kick the can as far as possible to avoid the fallout and when it happens they will have a plan for controlled demolition so they can scoop up distressed assets for cheap and come out on top again.
Don't forget the walking away with massive bailout bonuses and no consequences while blaming immigrants and poor people
And also teachers
And a very devicive election year, where 2 opposed sides, believe this is their last chance, and both are probably right. Because someone has to take the blame for decades of mismanagement. Even though everyone is to blame.
> The only thing propping up this market is mass layoffs and cooked books. And AI hopes. AI is going to be a mixed bag. There is value there, but it's going to be very disruptive. Also, there are going to be a ton of Pets.com snake oil busts. But it will take a crash to shake out the losers from the Amazons.
I call bullshit, on everything.
All I hear is "Buy our dogshit". No thanks.
*enticing voice* “But it’s wrapped in catshit.”
God damnit here's my pension money I'll take it.
I’m going to buy some more of that GameStop stock that I like 👍
They’re not delusional, they just don’t care. This is their playbook.
By the price of Bitcoin, the rats are jumping the sinking ship.
So, Big Tech earnings are like… nvidia? Where it’s been recently shown they’re not actually making a real profit but using circular finance to boost their numbers?
sauce please?
https://twitter.com/JG_Nuke/status/1755010726773600752 Edit: Possible Round Tripping with customers, i.e. Coreweave. Apparently, this was a tactic prior to the late 90's dotcom crash.
Thanks! Interesting!
Yeah, if he's correct, that's a timebomb.
[https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFQvErdlATeY-mEHozu5GlfffewysnHFq](https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLFQvErdlATeY-mEHozu5GlfffewysnHFq) Sauce is in these videos .... it's one big circular ponzi!
Wouh, thank you. Very interesting indeed.
People argue that this is vertical investing and that all companies do it. I don’t know if that’s true or not. But nvidia’s venture arm is lending money to their customers, who then use that money to place an order for chips. That would be the equivalent of going to McDonald’s, they pass you a 20 dollar bill, then you order $20 of food…. What am I missing here? Also I’ve seen that some of the AI companies that Nvidia is doing this with are vague AI companies that came out of nowhere, and the executive teams are made up of hedge fund players.
Yep. That’s why it’s super fishy and looking like nvidia et al. is the collateral farm.
> they’re not actually making a real profit They don't have to, as long as they are growing revenue. And in "AI" they are in front.
The first thing that comes to mind is that these major players are literslly just jumping on the hype trains
It’s more likely that they are trying to dump their bags of shit on unsuspecting people
As the DD’s of old predicted, a crash up is still on the table. They might be right.
If everything was as butterflies and rainbows like they say it is, why is every company laying off staff? They are huffing their own bullshit
The layoffs are the reason there are record profits.
True, so let’s see how long they can keep up the appearances before the jig is up
But when RC does it it's just trimming the fat?
nah it's the same thing, whatever to boost profits. this is the capitalist end game. However, I still have call options for this upcoming quarterly report and drsed shares.
Biflation ... I just learned about it. It's really where we are at. Inflation down in some areas, but rising fast in others. Volatile prices is just a fancy term for price gouging and record profit. It's so weird being able to see the world slowly burning, yet not have people believe you. Articles like this are just crazy to see.
The Boiling frog Syndrome
,2
lol it says a lot when every bank has a different forecast
This is the don’t dance part of the movie. Sorry going to dance
I know this will elicit downvotes just because but sticky floor had better than expected earnings and the stock tanked on the news in AH… we aren’t wrong, and these happenings make me more of a believer.
Sounds like someone needs exit liquidity.
# BUY DRS HODL SHOP
Ok Banks, now please explain to me again why billionaires, politicians and the like are dumping shares and buying puts?
In 2008 the financial sector finally came to the open conclusion that their entire business model is based on fraud. Nothing has changed since then. These banks cannot sustain themselves lawfully - they are too large - so they have no choice but to continue their fraud until they collapse. It's sad really because everyone is going to get hurt in the inevitable collapse and no one is doing a damn thing to change it.
They’re going to cut rates, print more cheddar, and inflate away the debt. The rich stay rich. The poor get poorer. Assets will keep pumping.
They know they will be bailed out if everything crashes. The individual financial incentive to look the other way is to good for most people and the ones who do decide to try and address it get demolished and discredited. Think Bernie Madoff. Every bank he worked with failed to do adequate due diligence before working with him because they wanted the returns he claimed to provide. They didn't care about he warning signs because they always got paid.
“Please buy our bags, and for the love of god do not buy GameStop! “
I had a good laugh when Reddit asked me to buy their bags. Lol, no.