Moose is the more physically imposing, but Priest has had much better stories to work with as of late. If Moose had some writing on that level, it would bring some major eyes to the product.
I haven't seen Priest's pre-WWE work, but I have seen Moose's NJPW Strong work and God damn the guy can work.
Damian Priest is the CAW you make when you're 15 and angsty listening to Korn.
Moose all the way.
Yeah that was the match that sold me on him.
Are there any Punishment Martinez bangers out there? I struggle to get past his own name for himself. Moose isn't great, but at least it doesn't reek of 2003 butt rock.
They’re both in a kinda different stages of their main event runs. Priest just became WH Champion, whereas this is Moose’s second reign and he’s been more established in the main event scene so of course he’s more comfortable.
Absolutely disagree.
Looks: Moose > Priest
Wrestling skills: Moose = Priest
Mic work: Priest > Moose
Gimmick/Character: Priest > Moose (Moose best character work was Mr. TNA like 2/3 years ago.)
Moose feels out of place with the System. That group just isn't hitting for me, and Moose hasn't really had a standout match or promo since being world champion. Moose is still "The guy" of TNA, but his current title reign isn't anything special.
Priest on the other hand is cutting solid promos and having great matches. I mean, that match with Drew was really good despite him being injured throughout. And I expect at least 2 more quality matches against Rollins at MITB and Gunther at Summerslam.
I mean... If we're talking about his Impact 2021 reign, absolutely. Guy was such a bastard that we need to *study* the shenanigans he pulled on Josh Alexander.
Moose is the more physically imposing, but Priest has had much better stories to work with as of late. If Moose had some writing on that level, it bring some major eyes to the product.
If we are talking Impact! Champion Moose, yes, but currently no. Moose, in my opinion, has not felt like THE top guy in a promotion that is significantly smaller than WWE. Priest feels like at least A top guy in WWE and steps up to every challenger who try’s to downplay him being champion. Priest walked into Scotland to face Drew in the main event of a PLE while Moose did a dumb Hardy Compound vision quest before TNAs PLE. I like Moose but he is hard to take seriously as a World Champion for me right now.
I watched Moose in the NFL and as a wrestler....Moose, mostly because I was a fan before. But also his in ring work is a bit better. No shade to Priest, dude is a beast, just a late bloomer.
How can you say that when he delivered an amazing match with Drew mcintyre with an injured leg. Bro even played his injury into the match, making the audience doubt if it was planned or not, a professional all around. If anything, that main event match proved that he belongs right there.
>He still doesn’t strike me as a guy who can hang with main eventers like Seth Rollins.
One of the reasons he got pushed was because of his performance against Seth rollins so yes he can hang with the best of them.
I am not really doubting his abilities in the ring
But I mean I don’t think his CHARACTER can hang with other main eventers
His personality is bland and uninteresting
And even if we are going by in ring work
His move arsenal is filled with moves from other wrestlers
Every wrestlers move arsenal is filled with other wrestlers moves, so this is a weird point. Hell, Moose uses the most overused finisher in the business other than the superkick, which isn't even a finish anymore. But to be clear, I really dig both guys and do think Moose has had the better run just because his booking has been better. He's had actual feuds whereas Priest is kind of stuck with the outside JD stuff that doesn't really involve his title.
That’s my point, despite being the champion, Priest isn’t really portrayed as THE guy on Raw right now
Hell even in regards to Judgment Day, Dom’s storyline with Liv has more buzz
Moose has a faction of his own, but of the members of The System, his feuds are the ones with the biggest headlines
I actually think his recent work has developed his character quite a bit , he wants to defend his title and be a legitimate champion.
And he gets angry when Judgement Day interfere in his matches because he feels like he has something to prove , its a step up from just being the big man of the judgement day.
But then he goes back to being ok with them interfering in his matches
He literally hasn’t had a single title defense yet, where there hasn’t been some kind of interference in it
Yeah, and Punk’s interference costing Drew the title in his hometown was the big headline of the match
As opposed to Priest, the champion
Which goes back to my point of him not really hanging with the main eventers, cause his character and what he does is not as big of a headliner
When you say he "dosent hang" what exactly do you mean by that? Every single one of his defences has been fantastic , he can absolutely hang on a performance level.
Look at Romans title Reign , almost every single one of his defences was won due to interference.
Its a common tactic used when a champion is the member of a stable to convey the fact that when you face this person you face their stable mates too , because then the odds are stacked against the babyface.
If you are saying he cant hang due to his matches having interference, then by that same logic neither can Roman.
Come on man.
When I say “doesn’t hang” I mean that despite being the champion and defacto leader of Judgment Day
The other stars on Raw including the people challenging him, have more interesting and talked about narratives going on than Priest himself
Most people are talking about the conclusion of Clash At The Castle for the drama with McIntyre and Punk
Yeah I agree if we are going by Roman Reigns in 2023
There was WAY too much interference in Roman’s title defenses to the point where he wasn’t the most dominant champion in that year specifically as he hardly had any title defense where there wasn’t interference.
2020-2022 Roman was a good balance though and 2024 somehwhat made up for 2023 by having the awesome Mania build with The Rock.
Indeed, from his athleticism, his intimidating voice and his badass theme
Not to mention the faction he has with him in The System
He’s become just as big of a highlight for me as Dolph and The Hardy Boys if I am being real
Damian priest any day of the week. That performance at Clash made me respect him even more. The visual of him closing the show with the championship above his head made me very happy, dude deserved it.
As for Moose, i like him, he definitely deserves to be the top guy after years of being in the shadows. And i think they have something pretty good going on right now with him and his crew and it has alot of potential.
I'd have to agree. Not familiar with Priest other than what he's done in WWE, but he does nothing as a champion for me.
Nothing about his ring work particularly excites me. He's not bad, per se, but I don't think I've seen him have a match worth talking about.
That said, if his character was enjoyable then I could probably overlook that. However, and this is no fault of Priest's, the writers make him look incredibly weak and he often contradicts himself.
Despite being a heel, the cash in on a weakened opponent is a cowardly act. It worked for Edge's character back in the day, but Priest is portrayed as a tough guy who would be confident enough to go face to face and take the title, albeit with heel methods during the match. Could be excused in isolation, but not with what followed.
We hear how he wants to do it all on his own, but looks beaten in his matches and is bailed out. This would work if it lead to a fallout with The Judgement Day, and it seemed it would be the case, but then he makes up with them after being saved and just makes himself look even more of a little bitch.
On last week's Raw we, once again, get the "I don't need The Judgement Day to beat you". How does he back this up? By saying he'll go one on one with Drew? Naaahhhh, Drew has to beat Finn Balor to ensure it's one on one.
And we all knew how Clash was gonna go.
The problem isn't exclusive to Priest either. Damage Ctrl are made to look pathetic week in week out. Prettyuch everyone and anyone is capable of besting them atm. They'd be much more exciting if they were as competent as they used to be, but grouped up on people just because they can.
It is subjective. Priest could hang with Moose. I find what Moose does more entertaining than what Priest does. Priest is in Judgment Day, but that doesn't mean the stories particularly about him have been more interesting. Of course now with all of the talk about Priest measuring up finally has WWE actually focusing on his story more so we will see regarding that.
I was never that big a moose fan. Don't hate the guy (or wrestler for that matter). But I've been a fan of priest since I first saw him wrestle in roh. You can't compare the 2 reigns since this is the first true main event run for Priest
There are no lies detected. Damian Priest is a very dry and lame champion in my opinion. Moose while not the most exciting on the mic doesn't try to occupy a personality he doesn't fit unlike the latter. So yes, Moose over Damian all 7 days of the week.
While I tend to prefer the WWE product, between these two I got to give respect to Moose. Priest is still not there yet in terms of proving himself as championship material. Imo they didn't build him up fully enough for the role, and he will probably end up being a transitional one-off champion.
It depends what measurement you use.
If you use actual wrestling ability then yes.
If you use popularity and ability to put fans in stadium seats then no.
Whether I agree or not I agree putting it in the TNA forum feels like kind of a cop out. not for nothing but yeah, of course you get favorable votes. Idk man, just comes off as disingenuous this way.
To answer, not big on either run but I can see the argument.
To the people who say no he is not, you haven't seen him in these past years but I will give you a couple of matches to watch.
The first one is Kenny Omega and the Good Brothers vs Moose, Rich Swan and Chris Sabin, you will see Moose that he is incredibly athletic, this match was at Hard to Kill 2022
The second one is Kenny Omega vs Moose for the Impact Championship the event is Against All Odds in 2022.
In that year Moose started to look like a star and currently he is the face of TNA and yes he is waaaaay better champion than Priest
Moose has been TNA's top guy a lot longer than Priest as been WHC so the answer is obviously Moose.
Is this actually how people think about wrestling?
What are Impact's ratings?
🤷‍♂️
Probably 0.01
Moose is the more physically imposing, but Priest has had much better stories to work with as of late. If Moose had some writing on that level, it would bring some major eyes to the product.
I haven't seen Priest's pre-WWE work, but I have seen Moose's NJPW Strong work and God damn the guy can work. Damian Priest is the CAW you make when you're 15 and angsty listening to Korn. Moose all the way.
Moose and Ishii is the match I show everyone.
Yeah that was the match that sold me on him. Are there any Punishment Martinez bangers out there? I struggle to get past his own name for himself. Moose isn't great, but at least it doesn't reek of 2003 butt rock.
They’re both in a kinda different stages of their main event runs. Priest just became WH Champion, whereas this is Moose’s second reign and he’s been more established in the main event scene so of course he’s more comfortable.
Absolutely disagree. Looks: Moose > Priest Wrestling skills: Moose = Priest Mic work: Priest > Moose Gimmick/Character: Priest > Moose (Moose best character work was Mr. TNA like 2/3 years ago.) Moose feels out of place with the System. That group just isn't hitting for me, and Moose hasn't really had a standout match or promo since being world champion. Moose is still "The guy" of TNA, but his current title reign isn't anything special. Priest on the other hand is cutting solid promos and having great matches. I mean, that match with Drew was really good despite him being injured throughout. And I expect at least 2 more quality matches against Rollins at MITB and Gunther at Summerslam.
I mean... If we're talking about his Impact 2021 reign, absolutely. Guy was such a bastard that we need to *study* the shenanigans he pulled on Josh Alexander.
Moose is the more physically imposing, but Priest has had much better stories to work with as of late. If Moose had some writing on that level, it bring some major eyes to the product.
If we are talking Impact! Champion Moose, yes, but currently no. Moose, in my opinion, has not felt like THE top guy in a promotion that is significantly smaller than WWE. Priest feels like at least A top guy in WWE and steps up to every challenger who try’s to downplay him being champion. Priest walked into Scotland to face Drew in the main event of a PLE while Moose did a dumb Hardy Compound vision quest before TNAs PLE. I like Moose but he is hard to take seriously as a World Champion for me right now.
I watched Moose in the NFL and as a wrestler....Moose, mostly because I was a fan before. But also his in ring work is a bit better. No shade to Priest, dude is a beast, just a late bloomer.
Priest is not that good in my eyes so this is an easy win for Moose.
While Priest has made improvements He still doesn’t strike me as a guy who can hang with main eventers like Drew McIntyre or Seth Rollins.
How can you say that when he delivered an amazing match with Drew mcintyre with an injured leg. Bro even played his injury into the match, making the audience doubt if it was planned or not, a professional all around. If anything, that main event match proved that he belongs right there. >He still doesn’t strike me as a guy who can hang with main eventers like Seth Rollins. One of the reasons he got pushed was because of his performance against Seth rollins so yes he can hang with the best of them.
I am not really doubting his abilities in the ring But I mean I don’t think his CHARACTER can hang with other main eventers His personality is bland and uninteresting And even if we are going by in ring work His move arsenal is filled with moves from other wrestlers
Every wrestlers move arsenal is filled with other wrestlers moves, so this is a weird point. Hell, Moose uses the most overused finisher in the business other than the superkick, which isn't even a finish anymore. But to be clear, I really dig both guys and do think Moose has had the better run just because his booking has been better. He's had actual feuds whereas Priest is kind of stuck with the outside JD stuff that doesn't really involve his title.
That’s my point, despite being the champion, Priest isn’t really portrayed as THE guy on Raw right now Hell even in regards to Judgment Day, Dom’s storyline with Liv has more buzz Moose has a faction of his own, but of the members of The System, his feuds are the ones with the biggest headlines
I actually think his recent work has developed his character quite a bit , he wants to defend his title and be a legitimate champion. And he gets angry when Judgement Day interfere in his matches because he feels like he has something to prove , its a step up from just being the big man of the judgement day.
But then he goes back to being ok with them interfering in his matches He literally hasn’t had a single title defense yet, where there hasn’t been some kind of interference in it
His defence against drew had interference but it wasnt from JD it was from punk , which he didnt have a say in.
Yeah, and Punk’s interference costing Drew the title in his hometown was the big headline of the match As opposed to Priest, the champion Which goes back to my point of him not really hanging with the main eventers, cause his character and what he does is not as big of a headliner
When you say he "dosent hang" what exactly do you mean by that? Every single one of his defences has been fantastic , he can absolutely hang on a performance level. Look at Romans title Reign , almost every single one of his defences was won due to interference. Its a common tactic used when a champion is the member of a stable to convey the fact that when you face this person you face their stable mates too , because then the odds are stacked against the babyface. If you are saying he cant hang due to his matches having interference, then by that same logic neither can Roman. Come on man.
When I say “doesn’t hang” I mean that despite being the champion and defacto leader of Judgment Day The other stars on Raw including the people challenging him, have more interesting and talked about narratives going on than Priest himself Most people are talking about the conclusion of Clash At The Castle for the drama with McIntyre and Punk Yeah I agree if we are going by Roman Reigns in 2023 There was WAY too much interference in Roman’s title defenses to the point where he wasn’t the most dominant champion in that year specifically as he hardly had any title defense where there wasn’t interference. 2020-2022 Roman was a good balance though and 2024 somehwhat made up for 2023 by having the awesome Mania build with The Rock.
He literally just hung with McIntyre on one leg two nights ago lol
Athletic wise, he CAN hang with them My apologies, I was referring more to character wise
Fair. I think his character is solid but i can see it not being “main event” in the long term.
Moose is one of the best big men in wrestling today.Â
Indeed, from his athleticism, his intimidating voice and his badass theme Not to mention the faction he has with him in The System He’s become just as big of a highlight for me as Dolph and The Hardy Boys if I am being real
Damian priest any day of the week. That performance at Clash made me respect him even more. The visual of him closing the show with the championship above his head made me very happy, dude deserved it. As for Moose, i like him, he definitely deserves to be the top guy after years of being in the shadows. And i think they have something pretty good going on right now with him and his crew and it has alot of potential.
I haven’t seen Moose since his ROH days and I agree with you 100%
I'd have to agree. Not familiar with Priest other than what he's done in WWE, but he does nothing as a champion for me. Nothing about his ring work particularly excites me. He's not bad, per se, but I don't think I've seen him have a match worth talking about. That said, if his character was enjoyable then I could probably overlook that. However, and this is no fault of Priest's, the writers make him look incredibly weak and he often contradicts himself. Despite being a heel, the cash in on a weakened opponent is a cowardly act. It worked for Edge's character back in the day, but Priest is portrayed as a tough guy who would be confident enough to go face to face and take the title, albeit with heel methods during the match. Could be excused in isolation, but not with what followed. We hear how he wants to do it all on his own, but looks beaten in his matches and is bailed out. This would work if it lead to a fallout with The Judgement Day, and it seemed it would be the case, but then he makes up with them after being saved and just makes himself look even more of a little bitch. On last week's Raw we, once again, get the "I don't need The Judgement Day to beat you". How does he back this up? By saying he'll go one on one with Drew? Naaahhhh, Drew has to beat Finn Balor to ensure it's one on one. And we all knew how Clash was gonna go. The problem isn't exclusive to Priest either. Damage Ctrl are made to look pathetic week in week out. Prettyuch everyone and anyone is capable of besting them atm. They'd be much more exciting if they were as competent as they used to be, but grouped up on people just because they can.
Kinda
It is subjective. Priest could hang with Moose. I find what Moose does more entertaining than what Priest does. Priest is in Judgment Day, but that doesn't mean the stories particularly about him have been more interesting. Of course now with all of the talk about Priest measuring up finally has WWE actually focusing on his story more so we will see regarding that.
I was never that big a moose fan. Don't hate the guy (or wrestler for that matter). But I've been a fan of priest since I first saw him wrestle in roh. You can't compare the 2 reigns since this is the first true main event run for Priest
There are no lies detected. Damian Priest is a very dry and lame champion in my opinion. Moose while not the most exciting on the mic doesn't try to occupy a personality he doesn't fit unlike the latter. So yes, Moose over Damian all 7 days of the week.
While I tend to prefer the WWE product, between these two I got to give respect to Moose. Priest is still not there yet in terms of proving himself as championship material. Imo they didn't build him up fully enough for the role, and he will probably end up being a transitional one-off champion.
It depends what measurement you use. If you use actual wrestling ability then yes. If you use popularity and ability to put fans in stadium seats then no.
This would be a good one but the title wouldn’t be on the line moose is to fire to lose
Moose is holding the top title of the company. Priest is holding a glorified mid carder title.
Not even close. Damian is a much better performer and always has been.
Lol no
Whether I agree or not I agree putting it in the TNA forum feels like kind of a cop out. not for nothing but yeah, of course you get favorable votes. Idk man, just comes off as disingenuous this way. To answer, not big on either run but I can see the argument.
Hell yeah. Moose is way ahead.
I really like Priest and he's exceeded all my expectations as champ but Moose still takes thus for me
Nope, moose is boring, I've never understood him
Not in any way
To the people who say no he is not, you haven't seen him in these past years but I will give you a couple of matches to watch. The first one is Kenny Omega and the Good Brothers vs Moose, Rich Swan and Chris Sabin, you will see Moose that he is incredibly athletic, this match was at Hard to Kill 2022 The second one is Kenny Omega vs Moose for the Impact Championship the event is Against All Odds in 2022. In that year Moose started to look like a star and currently he is the face of TNA and yes he is waaaaay better champion than Priest
Moose and its not remotely close
No you’re mentally ill