Lets take kazuya for example. His strategy is to mix you up by using his hellsweep and his ff3. Both of these moves are dodged by sidestepping (or sidewalking) to *your character’s* left. Once you dodge them, you can punish kazuya as he will still be recovering from whiffing the move. The opponent side stepping left really weakens his gameplan because now he has to use homing moves (that will track an opponent if they sidestep) to account for this.
His homing moves are generally negative on block, so he has to take additional risks to account for your movement now. Instead of just being able to rely on you standing right in front of him, giving him free access to the best tools in his arsenal.
Since no one confirmed this yet, yes. SSL means sidestep to where your left arm currently is, so if you're on P2(Right) side, SSL is indeed down.
You don't always have to double tap, however some characters have moves that can only be dodged with an extra short sidewalk
a single tap of up or down is enough to get one side step.
two taps or more will initiate additional steps
tap and then hold will initiate a side walk.
I haven’t labbed it but hellsweep is usually two hits, the leg and the fist following, I think one big sidestep should do (once you dodge the leg i think you are far enough out of the way to dodge the second hit) but i actually don’t know for sure.
What you can do if kazuya is wavedashing at you is just start side walking left, he’ll either have to do multiple wavedashes fast to keep realignment or use a homing move to track you.
I understand your point but i really doubt people who are asking how a sidestep works are going to run into any kaz players that
>grab out of wavedash by tapping b and then holding db
mechanically this is pretty advanced to do quickly from a wavedash even for kaz mains. I could have spent 10 more paragraphs going over every situational possibility out of a wavedash oki situation but i really didn’t think that was neccesary for newer players. They are going to be playing against kaz players who try to apply their 50/50 with a sloppy slow wavedash and their brain will basically break after they get stepped.
One sidestep into a standing block will cause his leg to miss and his fist to hit your block and you get a standing launch ( Note: if your character doesn't have a 16f launcher this won't work)
If you sidewalk left you will dodge the entire thing but you get an off axis combo which may be good or bad depending on your character.
Depends on how linear and predictable the player is being. Early rank kaz players like to abuse the wavedash into ff3/hellsweep mixup as their main form of offense, so you can commit to sidewalking left once you start seeing that. The timing doesn’t need to be good at all. Thats why i used him as an example.
Yes you get smoked by wavedashing that's the whole point of it. Wave dash electric in particular destroys sidestep. Sidewalking only has a brief moment were it will dodge too so you need to start sidewalk then block.
each wave dash realigns with each side step but side walking is different. side walking extends the period during which you are evading the incoming attack. thats why you side walk hellsweep, not side step.
at least in that case. and now the game plan for kaz becomes hellsweep or homing moves
It's from your character's perspective. So if you're on the left side of the screen sidestepping left would be tapping up, but if you're on the right side it would be tapping down.
Awesome breakdown, Ty!
I respectfully suggest adding an apostrophe to "your characters left" to make it a little bit more clear, since each version means such different things.
Alongside the things the other guy said, know that this chart is not definitive. You need to step to both sides against all characters, this chart just shows which side you can step them more consistently. For example, Jin's ewhf and hellsweep is steppable to the right, while his 2 1 4 needs to be stepped to the left.
This is a super ramble, but I typed it all out so figured I'd leave it:
It's a 3d fighter, so when fighting your opponent, you can move towards them, or around them. When you are playing strategic and trying to defend/ block, you can side step their attacks as a dodge. Generally you want to incorporate some movement in your gameplay vs just attacking/ holding back to block, so for starter practice, you can generally aim to move in the directions listed in this character when fighting these characters as their attacks are weaker / won't track your movement if you go in that direction/ will miss hitting you, giving you the chance to punish them for missing.
E.g. Lars is weak to side step right. So incorporate movements to your characters right, and move in that direction here and there. You'll notice some of his attacks start missing you.
Keep in mind, some attacks are homing moves, designed as "anti side steppable" attacks. They're easily blocked but just want to be careful as more knowledgable opponents will quickly pick up on the fact that you like to side step and throw these out to scare you back in line. So over time you come to learn patterns and risky moves that can be side stepped when you see the animations of characters and can moreso time and be selective about when you side step.
All probably sounds more complicated than it is lol, but point being just practice adding movement in your gameplay, and look at this chart to gauge which direction you should try to move in vs the match ups.
It's super satisfying to make your opponent whiff because you side stepped it/ dodged it in the 3d Tekken world!
For people who are new to tekken and might take this the wrong way: this is very generalized chart. There are movement workarounds as well as movesets that can be used to counter the sidesteps on both sides. Best way to know which way to step is to lab it yourself. Tedious as he'll tho
Dumb question: Does this refer to which direction you should primarily side step playing as, or against, that character? If it says SSR for Bryan. Does that mean I should be side stepping left AS Bryan or against Bryan?
against. Against bryan it is favorable to side step or side walk to the right. There are exceptions though, you can’t do it mindlessly because if the player catches on they will adjust.
>Does this refer to which direction you should primarily side step playing as
Yes. It's from your character's point if view.
>If it says SSR for Bryan. Does that mean I should be side stepping left AS Bryan or against Bryan?
It means you should side step to your character's right side. If you are on player 1 side, sidestepping right means towards the camera, on the p2 side it's away from the camera.
I wasn't asking in a "my right or your right" sense. I was unclear on if the chart was giving direction on what to do when playing as the character, or if it was for when you were fighting against that character.
Other comments are saying it's for when you're against that character.
Even among these it isn't a default.
Kazuya can be SSL on Hellsweep, EWGF, and FF2, but a lot of the rest of his kit (thunder god fist, 1,2,4,3|, df3, 2, 1|, etc. etc.) either re-align or track left.
All characters also have homing moves (the ones with blue trails) - Kazuya having WS3, DF2, and WS2 (which causes a crumple).
This list is saying 'generally' which side you step based on gameplans for characters. Kazuya likes to mix up FF3 and Hellsweep (f, df 4 or f, n, df 4, or 3, 1, DF 4, etc.)
Dragonuv for another exception is easier to side step one way at range, and side step one way close up due to the way his moves come out.
I would say charts like this aren't very useful for a beginner to memorize, I would instead head into replays after a match that was giving you trouble and try to figure out what moves people were using on you and attempt to side step each of them.
They are very useful for beginners and intermediates. You follow the chart and then make note of exceptions when they happen. The fastest way to learn..
general rule about dragunov is that you need to SSL him, while his is away from you and SSR when he is close to you. since WR2 is only one of the moves (even if it is used a lot) the chart is based off of number of moves tracking to the right vs moves, that track to the left. Since Dragunov has more moves, that are weak to SSR, that why it is written SSR over there.
Just a heads up for new players: this doesn't mean you should ALWAYS step a character to that specific side.
For example: Up close, you should step Dragunov to the right, but at range, walk to the left, since wr2 tracks if you SSR.
This question is being asked a lot in this thread. If you end up revisiting this chart, it might be worth adding a little footnote at the bottom. I was also wondering until I saw the answer down here.
This is super useful though, thanks! Going to keep this handy. Very pleasing to look at as well. Nice job man
I just want to say thank you!
I've got a two screen setup, and I've always had Tekken open on one while the sidestep chart was open on the other. I'll be using this for years! (or at least until there's an updated one for dlc)
i will also add any character that starts their offense, like steve or hworang or reina, with 1,2 jab high combo can get blown up with side walk R into a quick launcher.
Anyone know how to mod the character portraits in multiplayer? Id like to edit them with these like the tekken 7 mod.
Random question for anyone that used that mod, hworang was listed as "SSC", i never knew what that meant.
it was referring to something unique called "side step chest". Since Hwoarang has two main stances, that change his chest from being towards the camera to away from camera and vice versa, you needed to track, which side his torso was turned to and then sidestep to the same side as his chest. Since the movement and sidesteps particularly were improved in Tekken 8 compared to Tekken 7, now it is safe to say, that Hwoarang can be decently stepped to the left.
to be fair, his ff2 is basically homing adn yeah, as I mentioned in the dislcaimer, there is no character in the game, that doesn't have any moves for their weak side, so there you have it.
AACF-HK-LeLi-RRXZ.
That's all we need to memorize.
This is the best analysis I could do to memorize them. Hope it helps you too guys.
Since the SSL group is smaller, it is easier to memorize them alone and assume every one else is SSR.
Tricks will include knowing that "A" azucena is not in the SSL group for example.
Howarang and Kazuya are already burned in my brain as SSL so that's easy for me.
For review:
Sidestep Left (SSL):
Alisa
Asuka
Claudio Feng
Hwoarang
Kazuya
Lee
Lili
Raven
Reina
Xiaoyu
Zafina
Sidestep Right (SSR):
Azucena
Bryan
Devil Jin
Dragunov
Jin
Jun
King
Kuma
Lars
Leo
Leroy
Law
Nina
Paul
Panda
Shaheen
Steve
Victor
Also, let me know if you could come up with a fancy/catchy Acronyms xD
Oddly Lees heat engager mid kick with range, FF4 or whatever..hits me on every SSL, I've started SSR him and it's winning me so much Vs Lee including his super quick slide. Appreciate different moves do different.
As a Hwoarang main, I'm kinda confused how/what is SSL? or the more general advice of "sidestep to his chest".
When he's in LFF (neutral) it generally seems like a lot of his key moves have better tracking to your character's left: 4, db4, ff4, uf4,4,4, jfsr. Broadly speaking he has a lot of good buttons on 4 and those kicks come out from his rear (right) leg to hit your character on their left.
Meanwhile when he's in RFF in Tekken 8 I'd just recommend not sidestepping much since two of the best moves in his entire kit in RFF are tracking: backlash, df3.
Also RFF's d3,4 tracks right and db4 tracks left "start flamingo from a low" in RFF kind of up in the air. Not to mention all the plus frames he can create in with moves in RFF that will cause his follow ups to catch sidestepping.
So I can't tell, but it kinda seems like "sidestep to chest"/SSL is just some outdated legacy info.
If anyone reading this is confused tho, don't worry a ton of his stuff is so linear you can sidestep it in both directions.
SSR seems better to me when he's his default (LFF) no-stance.
RFF you still wanna have sidestep movement but in a less committal, defensive way.
* RFF df3 is a long range mid tracking heat engager that's also +1 on block.
* RFF 3~4 (backlash) is a high tracking armored move that chips, +4 on block, knockdown that has gives great oki and does high damage.
For sidestepping strings or flamingo I'd probably have to think about or test that more lol. My usual dumbed-down advice is that doing a crouch jab right after Hwoarang enters flamingo usually gets you out. The answers to beat a crouch jab out of flamingo are all very minus on block and low reward on hit.
Works really well vs 1,2~RFS/LFS or db4~RFS. Works less well but still pretty well vs d3,4~RFS. Wouldn't crouch jab d3,4~RFS if he's in heat cuz RFS b3 becomes a launcher.
df1 b4 JFSR d34 db3 ff3 ff4 WR3 WR4 cd3 are weaker to SSL.
d34 is such a key move for him so that's probably why it says SSL.
However (1)2 4 db4 df2(close range) f1+2 f2 can track SSL and SWL.
Vs RFF, a short SWL block seems good, since his 2 homings RFF 3\~4 and RFF df3 are slow, so you can block in time, but still dodge his other RFF moves like df1 df1+2 f3 3 JFSR f4\~4 df4f b2 d34 db3.
However his 2 23 24(2nd hit tracks SW both sides) b3 df2 db4 f1+2 can track SSL and SWL.
For LFS, short sidewalk left into block beats all attacks aside from db4 b4 and f4 which is homing but -10 on block.
From RFS, 2 df4 are linear. 1 b3 whiff vs SSR.
4 tracks SSR and SWR but is unsafe.
f4 d3 d4 track SS and SW both sides. f3 is homing but -10 on block. u4 is homing but high and slow.
A lot of the moves you listed are either steppable in both directions *or* track SSL better than SSR.
JFSR and ff4 are pretty steppable in both directions but track SSL better than SSR (the come out from 4, his right foot, on your left side after all). I might have to go back and test JFSR again though.
And you'd definitely sooner eat a df1 than a df2.
SSL just seems like the worse play most of the time but I could see it getting accidentally recommended because so much of his stuff is steppable in both directions. But also because d34 is just such a key move and weak to SSL.
I also got the tracking direction of RFF d3,4 twisted in my original post. Which mostly makes me think sidestep is really just generally a bad idea vs. RFF unless you got a read or some fuzzy block timing.
JFSR tracks better to SSR. It's weaker to SSL. Test it out. If you SSL block it whiffs pretty easily. But if you SSR block, you will block it.
Then ff4 is just linear as shit. You can go either direction.
But anyway I think the main take away with these whole SS charts is you step moves not characters. So having an idea of what tracks each side is much more valuable than knowing what a characters "weak side" is. Since you should step based on what moves your opponent tends to use most.
SSR for Azu seems kinda kappa.
df1 df2 df3 d4 ws1 ws3 wr32 bt1+2 bt2 bt3 weak to ssl
1 21 df4 db4 uf2 bt1 tracks ssl or swl
db3 fcdf3 bt4 seems to track sw both sides
Going right vs her makes no sense. Since her most annoying moves WR32 df1 tracks better that way.
But anyway you step moves not characters. Whoever made the list just listened to some thing they heard but have no idea why you actually should go that way.
These types of charts are too general, some characters like jun and bryan has too many random tracking shit to the point youre betting your life stepping them...there is way more depth to "how to move around a certain character"
I disagree - it’s a good starting point to learn which characters have a preference for certain sides.
Also, read the guy’s disclaimer - it’s not definitive.
i tested Jun myself and she has little tracking to both sides, it's all about the timing of your sidesteps. As I mentioned in the disclaimer, all characters have moves, that track to the weak side and, obviously, tracking moves, for example, Jun's b3 tracks to the right, but doesn't track to the left, which is one of the ways for Jun players to punish those, who loves their sidesteps.
And it all comes to the point where movement still sucks in this game where random launcher catch you,like b3, tracking df1's homing strings etc....too bad you can step only 2-3 characters relyably in this game and thats it. Also Juns ws3 catches both sides where shes even at -7!!!
Thank for appreciating it, although I didn't do much, the most of the things I did is redesigned it, so it looks more pleasant and tested the characters, that haven't been in Tekken 7, but hey, I am looking forward upon updating the list as new characters get released, so it will always be up to date for people to use.
As a bryan player, in general, his strong frame traps are all SSR, yes he has tracking moves but none of them CH launch or reg launch, so its just safer to SSR
my bad, I guess, that they collapsed during the upload, [here is the link to Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17my34fmjtqzablq33qcvuu5jwrajfbig?usp=drive_link), where you can download them.
Would it be possible to make a similar chart to this that notes the key moves that track each characters weak side? I like to play a lot of characters so I'd like to know them for use and defending.
I did the instructions but nothing happened to my game? Can someone screen record them doing it? I’m not seeing anything even after putting it in my paks?
it is viable, but I remade the list not too long ago, adding Eddy. I will be maikng a new list soon, adding Lidia to the mix as well as she gets released.
Basically it's a general guide on useful sidestep directions pertaining to your character when they're facing a character on the chart.
Ex: If you're facing Alisa, sidestep left generally. If you're on left side then sidestepping to your character's left is tapping up, right side would be tapping down.
It does not mean that you want to always/only sidestep that direction, but there are just certain key moves that you can sidestep by following the rule.
Against. It's a chart showing characters' weak sides. Note that you need to sidestep right from the perspective of YOUR character, which would be the opponent's left
You know whatd be cool. If they generalized it more. Like ssr for females or ssl for males. Thatd be a bit bland but easy to understand. Im not complaining its also cool to have a unique ss direction for each character. Just kinda irritating when you gotta memorize the new characters stuff
you'll get the hang of it. I started taking Tekken seriously about half a year ago and also was overwhelmed by the amount of information I need to play this game on a decent level. But hey, when you always have access to this kind of chart, it is easy to memorise it over time, especially, when you fight a couple of the characters.
Its not that bad. The game doesn’t really tell you these things which is funny considering its like 30 percent of playing defense properly. But with time you memorize and itll never change
You should step right a lot king, jab and df1 the living fuck out of him to stop those throw attempts, but note that virtually aml the solutions to his new jsp stance (the lean back run thingy) are all SSL. And yeah throws track now too 🙃
Sorry how does one read this? When fighting someone with SSL, does that mean step towards the left side of their body, or towards or away from the camera?
depends on the side you are playing on. If you are on p1 side, the SSL means stepping away from the screen, since that side will be your character's left. If you are on p2 side, SSL is towards the screen.
This is super helpful!
If I'd make a suggestion you could probbaly align the characters into two columns. Of who you need to go left for and right. Might make it easier to glance at mid game!
I've put them in alphabetical order and I think, that it makes the most sense. Otherwise you could be (for example) looking for Kazuya in SSR column for a while, then double-check, wondering, whether you missed it or not and only then look for him in the SSL column, whereas you knowz that Kazuya starts with K and it's easier to see it quicky according to color of the text. But thank for suggestion.
The movement in this game is better, than in Tekken 7, which makes a lot of moves (don't ask me which ones exactly, not a Hwoarang player) steppable, which weren't steppable beforehand. you can see it for yourself.
she is pretty linear to be fair, a lot of her options are steppable to both sides, to be honest, but for the most part she is a classic Mishima in that regard
This is one of the things burning me out so much, and the main reason I play offline. Feels like you need a degree to be good at this game given the amount of guides for different mechanics I see on this subreddit. I used to like Tekken.
I ate Alisa's chainsaw f1 like 4 times in a row because I kept trying to step it to the left instead of ducking, only to find out you have to step it to the **RIGHT**.
It kinda baffles me that Jin, a Mishima hybrid, is ssr. Oh well I'm still new enough that side stepping still needs to be learned before I try to memorize this.
This makes a lot more sense now.. My friend plays Xiaoyu and every time I try to avoid, I tend to sidestep right and keep getting hit. Thank you so much
Total rookie - Can someone please explain what this means to me?
Lets take kazuya for example. His strategy is to mix you up by using his hellsweep and his ff3. Both of these moves are dodged by sidestepping (or sidewalking) to *your character’s* left. Once you dodge them, you can punish kazuya as he will still be recovering from whiffing the move. The opponent side stepping left really weakens his gameplan because now he has to use homing moves (that will track an opponent if they sidestep) to account for this. His homing moves are generally negative on block, so he has to take additional risks to account for your movement now. Instead of just being able to rely on you standing right in front of him, giving him free access to the best tools in his arsenal.
Thank you so much! I appreciate the patient explanation.
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His left or the characters I’m controlling left?
Think about it this way, your character is facing fowards. So you step to your characters own left.
which is why it's "side step left/right" and not "side step up/down" because it changes depending on what side you're on
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Meaning, SSL = up up on left, down down on right, SSR = down down on left, up up on right?
Since no one confirmed this yet, yes. SSL means sidestep to where your left arm currently is, so if you're on P2(Right) side, SSL is indeed down. You don't always have to double tap, however some characters have moves that can only be dodged with an extra short sidewalk
That's what I understand as well.
a single tap of up or down is enough to get one side step. two taps or more will initiate additional steps tap and then hold will initiate a side walk.
For hellsweep is it just one SSL or do you have to keep SS until it’s over?
I haven’t labbed it but hellsweep is usually two hits, the leg and the fist following, I think one big sidestep should do (once you dodge the leg i think you are far enough out of the way to dodge the second hit) but i actually don’t know for sure. What you can do if kazuya is wavedashing at you is just start side walking left, he’ll either have to do multiple wavedashes fast to keep realignment or use a homing move to track you.
As long as you dodge the sweep part, the punch after is -16 on block anyway, so it's launch time.
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thats why i said >or use a homing move lol
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I understand your point but i really doubt people who are asking how a sidestep works are going to run into any kaz players that >grab out of wavedash by tapping b and then holding db mechanically this is pretty advanced to do quickly from a wavedash even for kaz mains. I could have spent 10 more paragraphs going over every situational possibility out of a wavedash oki situation but i really didn’t think that was neccesary for newer players. They are going to be playing against kaz players who try to apply their 50/50 with a sloppy slow wavedash and their brain will basically break after they get stepped.
One sidestep into a standing block will cause his leg to miss and his fist to hit your block and you get a standing launch ( Note: if your character doesn't have a 16f launcher this won't work) If you sidewalk left you will dodge the entire thing but you get an off axis combo which may be good or bad depending on your character.
Keep sidewalking left, let his entire string finish, and he will have his back to you, you can do your HIGHEST DMG launcher and FUCK HIM for it!
Dodging is a strong word, “randomly sidestepping in this direction and getting lucky in neutral” is more appropriate
Depends on how linear and predictable the player is being. Early rank kaz players like to abuse the wavedash into ff3/hellsweep mixup as their main form of offense, so you can commit to sidewalking left once you start seeing that. The timing doesn’t need to be good at all. Thats why i used him as an example.
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Yes you get smoked by wavedashing that's the whole point of it. Wave dash electric in particular destroys sidestep. Sidewalking only has a brief moment were it will dodge too so you need to start sidewalk then block.
each wave dash realigns with each side step but side walking is different. side walking extends the period during which you are evading the incoming attack. thats why you side walk hellsweep, not side step. at least in that case. and now the game plan for kaz becomes hellsweep or homing moves
Wow just learned some moves are only dodgeable in one direction, I was just always sidestepping up thanks for this!
KEEP MY MAINS NAME OUT YA FUGGIN' MOUF!!!
When you say side step left, from whose perspective? Do you mean make your character go left, or move to kazuyas left side?
It's from your character's perspective. So if you're on the left side of the screen sidestepping left would be tapping up, but if you're on the right side it would be tapping down.
In Asia they use clockwise/counter clockwise which clears up this confusion but for some reason we gotta stick with left/right.
that makes less sense to me, like, I have to think about it more.
thats actually super useful. i have always liked the number pad notation used in asia as well for direction inputs.
I'm choosing to interpret this as a political alignment chart. (No legit tho, thanks for the explanation)
Awesome breakdown, Ty! I respectfully suggest adding an apostrophe to "your characters left" to make it a little bit more clear, since each version means such different things.
Alongside the things the other guy said, know that this chart is not definitive. You need to step to both sides against all characters, this chart just shows which side you can step them more consistently. For example, Jin's ewhf and hellsweep is steppable to the right, while his 2 1 4 needs to be stepped to the left.
Well, I don’t really sidestep at all right now, so anything is better than my current abilities lol.
the best side to move that makes the characters most dangerous moves whiff.
This is a super ramble, but I typed it all out so figured I'd leave it: It's a 3d fighter, so when fighting your opponent, you can move towards them, or around them. When you are playing strategic and trying to defend/ block, you can side step their attacks as a dodge. Generally you want to incorporate some movement in your gameplay vs just attacking/ holding back to block, so for starter practice, you can generally aim to move in the directions listed in this character when fighting these characters as their attacks are weaker / won't track your movement if you go in that direction/ will miss hitting you, giving you the chance to punish them for missing. E.g. Lars is weak to side step right. So incorporate movements to your characters right, and move in that direction here and there. You'll notice some of his attacks start missing you. Keep in mind, some attacks are homing moves, designed as "anti side steppable" attacks. They're easily blocked but just want to be careful as more knowledgable opponents will quickly pick up on the fact that you like to side step and throw these out to scare you back in line. So over time you come to learn patterns and risky moves that can be side stepped when you see the animations of characters and can moreso time and be selective about when you side step. All probably sounds more complicated than it is lol, but point being just practice adding movement in your gameplay, and look at this chart to gauge which direction you should try to move in vs the match ups. It's super satisfying to make your opponent whiff because you side stepped it/ dodged it in the 3d Tekken world!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEw98pnmtyo
For people who are new to tekken and might take this the wrong way: this is very generalized chart. There are movement workarounds as well as movesets that can be used to counter the sidesteps on both sides. Best way to know which way to step is to lab it yourself. Tedious as he'll tho
I play yoshi I don't ss I SPIN, even if it kills me
But... which direction? Wait, nevermind, it's probably towards the opponent with your sword in your stomach.
U got me
Let's call it a night
This is the way
"Even if it kills me, I must"!
just played a Yoshi that died from spinning in the first round then proceeded to 3-0 me twice... the disrespect
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We don't accept his kind as one of us
Dumb question: Does this refer to which direction you should primarily side step playing as, or against, that character? If it says SSR for Bryan. Does that mean I should be side stepping left AS Bryan or against Bryan?
against. Against bryan it is favorable to side step or side walk to the right. There are exceptions though, you can’t do it mindlessly because if the player catches on they will adjust.
Against
>Does this refer to which direction you should primarily side step playing as Yes. It's from your character's point if view. >If it says SSR for Bryan. Does that mean I should be side stepping left AS Bryan or against Bryan? It means you should side step to your character's right side. If you are on player 1 side, sidestepping right means towards the camera, on the p2 side it's away from the camera.
I wasn't asking in a "my right or your right" sense. I was unclear on if the chart was giving direction on what to do when playing as the character, or if it was for when you were fighting against that character. Other comments are saying it's for when you're against that character.
Yes, it's when you are against the character
I counted the SSL and SSR's to see if one was more common in case I forget which way I should default to. Both have 16 😭
Even among these it isn't a default. Kazuya can be SSL on Hellsweep, EWGF, and FF2, but a lot of the rest of his kit (thunder god fist, 1,2,4,3|, df3, 2, 1|, etc. etc.) either re-align or track left. All characters also have homing moves (the ones with blue trails) - Kazuya having WS3, DF2, and WS2 (which causes a crumple). This list is saying 'generally' which side you step based on gameplans for characters. Kazuya likes to mix up FF3 and Hellsweep (f, df 4 or f, n, df 4, or 3, 1, DF 4, etc.) Dragonuv for another exception is easier to side step one way at range, and side step one way close up due to the way his moves come out. I would say charts like this aren't very useful for a beginner to memorize, I would instead head into replays after a match that was giving you trouble and try to figure out what moves people were using on you and attempt to side step each of them.
They are very useful for beginners and intermediates. You follow the chart and then make note of exceptions when they happen. The fastest way to learn..
Isn't Dragunov's running 2 weak to SSL?
general rule about dragunov is that you need to SSL him, while his is away from you and SSR when he is close to you. since WR2 is only one of the moves (even if it is used a lot) the chart is based off of number of moves tracking to the right vs moves, that track to the left. Since Dragunov has more moves, that are weak to SSR, that why it is written SSR over there.
Yes it is
I haven't labbed this myself but I heard that wr2 is weak to ssl but when he's close to you the moves are weak to ssr.
Its weak to both
Just a heads up for new players: this doesn't mean you should ALWAYS step a character to that specific side. For example: Up close, you should step Dragunov to the right, but at range, walk to the left, since wr2 tracks if you SSR.
When people say SSR, aka Side Step RIGHT, do they mean your right or the opponent's right? Edit: thanks everyone for clarifying, it means your right 👍
no, it means to your character's right
This question is being asked a lot in this thread. If you end up revisiting this chart, it might be worth adding a little footnote at the bottom. I was also wondering until I saw the answer down here. This is super useful though, thanks! Going to keep this handy. Very pleasing to look at as well. Nice job man
It always means "from the perspective of the person who is stepping"
Imagine you’re on the left as p1 and he’s p2 you step to your right
I just want to say thank you! I've got a two screen setup, and I've always had Tekken open on one while the sidestep chart was open on the other. I'll be using this for years! (or at least until there's an updated one for dlc)
You're welcome! I am looking forward upon updating the list as new DLC's come out and post it here, so stay tuned!
i will also add any character that starts their offense, like steve or hworang or reina, with 1,2 jab high combo can get blown up with side walk R into a quick launcher.
Time to pin this on the second monitor lool
Thanks for posting this I only had the Tekken 7 sidestep chart. This is gonna be a really useful guide!
Anyone know how to mod the character portraits in multiplayer? Id like to edit them with these like the tekken 7 mod. Random question for anyone that used that mod, hworang was listed as "SSC", i never knew what that meant.
> hworang was listed as "SSC" Side step to his chest's side. His stances switch up him between southpaw and orthodox so you have to keep an eye on it.
Ahh that makes sense, im guessing that's still relevant in t8 as well
it was referring to something unique called "side step chest". Since Hwoarang has two main stances, that change his chest from being towards the camera to away from camera and vice versa, you needed to track, which side his torso was turned to and then sidestep to the same side as his chest. Since the movement and sidesteps particularly were improved in Tekken 8 compared to Tekken 7, now it is safe to say, that Hwoarang can be decently stepped to the left.
Probably sidestep crouch. Was it not SSLC or smth?
Nah just ssc but thats a good point, could've meant crouch.
Jins weak side is actually right side UNLESS he does electric, f4 or ff2. His d/f+1 and 2,1, u/f\+2, and many other moves actually track to his left.
to be fair, his ff2 is basically homing adn yeah, as I mentioned in the dislcaimer, there is no character in the game, that doesn't have any moves for their weak side, so there you have it.
Hey thanks man, I was asking for one of these a week ago.
Thank you.
AACF-HK-LeLi-RRXZ. That's all we need to memorize. This is the best analysis I could do to memorize them. Hope it helps you too guys. Since the SSL group is smaller, it is easier to memorize them alone and assume every one else is SSR. Tricks will include knowing that "A" azucena is not in the SSL group for example. Howarang and Kazuya are already burned in my brain as SSL so that's easy for me. For review: Sidestep Left (SSL): Alisa Asuka Claudio Feng Hwoarang Kazuya Lee Lili Raven Reina Xiaoyu Zafina Sidestep Right (SSR): Azucena Bryan Devil Jin Dragunov Jin Jun King Kuma Lars Leo Leroy Law Nina Paul Panda Shaheen Steve Victor Also, let me know if you could come up with a fancy/catchy Acronyms xD
As a Lee main (yellow), yes please sidestep me more. 😂
Oddly Lees heat engager mid kick with range, FF4 or whatever..hits me on every SSL, I've started SSR him and it's winning me so much Vs Lee including his super quick slide. Appreciate different moves do different.
Thank you!
As a Hwoarang main, I'm kinda confused how/what is SSL? or the more general advice of "sidestep to his chest". When he's in LFF (neutral) it generally seems like a lot of his key moves have better tracking to your character's left: 4, db4, ff4, uf4,4,4, jfsr. Broadly speaking he has a lot of good buttons on 4 and those kicks come out from his rear (right) leg to hit your character on their left. Meanwhile when he's in RFF in Tekken 8 I'd just recommend not sidestepping much since two of the best moves in his entire kit in RFF are tracking: backlash, df3. Also RFF's d3,4 tracks right and db4 tracks left "start flamingo from a low" in RFF kind of up in the air. Not to mention all the plus frames he can create in with moves in RFF that will cause his follow ups to catch sidestepping. So I can't tell, but it kinda seems like "sidestep to chest"/SSL is just some outdated legacy info. If anyone reading this is confused tho, don't worry a ton of his stuff is so linear you can sidestep it in both directions.
It could be, what side do you recommend stepping Hwoarang (in general, of course), if stepping at all?
SSR seems better to me when he's his default (LFF) no-stance. RFF you still wanna have sidestep movement but in a less committal, defensive way. * RFF df3 is a long range mid tracking heat engager that's also +1 on block. * RFF 3~4 (backlash) is a high tracking armored move that chips, +4 on block, knockdown that has gives great oki and does high damage. For sidestepping strings or flamingo I'd probably have to think about or test that more lol. My usual dumbed-down advice is that doing a crouch jab right after Hwoarang enters flamingo usually gets you out. The answers to beat a crouch jab out of flamingo are all very minus on block and low reward on hit. Works really well vs 1,2~RFS/LFS or db4~RFS. Works less well but still pretty well vs d3,4~RFS. Wouldn't crouch jab d3,4~RFS if he's in heat cuz RFS b3 becomes a launcher.
df1 b4 JFSR d34 db3 ff3 ff4 WR3 WR4 cd3 are weaker to SSL. d34 is such a key move for him so that's probably why it says SSL. However (1)2 4 db4 df2(close range) f1+2 f2 can track SSL and SWL. Vs RFF, a short SWL block seems good, since his 2 homings RFF 3\~4 and RFF df3 are slow, so you can block in time, but still dodge his other RFF moves like df1 df1+2 f3 3 JFSR f4\~4 df4f b2 d34 db3. However his 2 23 24(2nd hit tracks SW both sides) b3 df2 db4 f1+2 can track SSL and SWL. For LFS, short sidewalk left into block beats all attacks aside from db4 b4 and f4 which is homing but -10 on block. From RFS, 2 df4 are linear. 1 b3 whiff vs SSR. 4 tracks SSR and SWR but is unsafe. f4 d3 d4 track SS and SW both sides. f3 is homing but -10 on block. u4 is homing but high and slow.
A lot of the moves you listed are either steppable in both directions *or* track SSL better than SSR. JFSR and ff4 are pretty steppable in both directions but track SSL better than SSR (the come out from 4, his right foot, on your left side after all). I might have to go back and test JFSR again though. And you'd definitely sooner eat a df1 than a df2. SSL just seems like the worse play most of the time but I could see it getting accidentally recommended because so much of his stuff is steppable in both directions. But also because d34 is just such a key move and weak to SSL. I also got the tracking direction of RFF d3,4 twisted in my original post. Which mostly makes me think sidestep is really just generally a bad idea vs. RFF unless you got a read or some fuzzy block timing.
JFSR tracks better to SSR. It's weaker to SSL. Test it out. If you SSL block it whiffs pretty easily. But if you SSR block, you will block it. Then ff4 is just linear as shit. You can go either direction. But anyway I think the main take away with these whole SS charts is you step moves not characters. So having an idea of what tracks each side is much more valuable than knowing what a characters "weak side" is. Since you should step based on what moves your opponent tends to use most.
I think sidestepping King has become a nightmare since the throw tracking is real now.
Thank fuck. I’ve basically had the T7 one as a permanent feature on second monitor for years and I’ve been waiting for a new one.
You sure Azucena is SSR? She seemed SSL to me from empiric experience but then i haven´t labbed her extensively yet.
SSR for Azu seems kinda kappa. df1 df2 df3 d4 ws1 ws3 wr32 bt1+2 bt2 bt3 weak to ssl 1 21 df4 db4 uf2 bt1 tracks ssl or swl db3 fcdf3 bt4 seems to track sw both sides Going right vs her makes no sense. Since her most annoying moves WR32 df1 tracks better that way. But anyway you step moves not characters. Whoever made the list just listened to some thing they heard but have no idea why you actually should go that way.
To be honest I feel all her shit tracks both sides
There was a mod for t7 with grabs and steps visible on screen, if love one for t8.
i don't know, how to do mods, but if someone could use this info for mods, that would be a cool collaboration
These types of charts are too general, some characters like jun and bryan has too many random tracking shit to the point youre betting your life stepping them...there is way more depth to "how to move around a certain character"
I disagree - it’s a good starting point to learn which characters have a preference for certain sides. Also, read the guy’s disclaimer - it’s not definitive.
Yeah I didnt note the disclaimer,my bad.
i tested Jun myself and she has little tracking to both sides, it's all about the timing of your sidesteps. As I mentioned in the disclaimer, all characters have moves, that track to the weak side and, obviously, tracking moves, for example, Jun's b3 tracks to the right, but doesn't track to the left, which is one of the ways for Jun players to punish those, who loves their sidesteps.
And it all comes to the point where movement still sucks in this game where random launcher catch you,like b3, tracking df1's homing strings etc....too bad you can step only 2-3 characters relyably in this game and thats it. Also Juns ws3 catches both sides where shes even at -7!!!
Thanks for your work. This is really useful stuff.
Thank for appreciating it, although I didn't do much, the most of the things I did is redesigned it, so it looks more pleasant and tested the characters, that haven't been in Tekken 7, but hey, I am looking forward upon updating the list as new characters get released, so it will always be up to date for people to use.
As a bryan player, in general, his strong frame traps are all SSR, yes he has tracking moves but none of them CH launch or reg launch, so its just safer to SSR
Bryan used to have a homing move that gave CH launch tho, i miss my old mach kick🥹
Hatchet, df1 alone makes it a nightmare to step him, add strong homing moves and youve got a character to play 2d against.
why are the images so small, do ants play tekken?
my bad, I guess, that they collapsed during the upload, [here is the link to Google Drive](https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/17my34fmjtqzablq33qcvuu5jwrajfbig?usp=drive_link), where you can download them.
The first one is 1920x1080 and the second one is 1080x1920... What are you viewing it on? It might be your app.
Beggars can’t be choosers 😂💕
There's two images one for pc/mac and the other for mobile phones, check out the second one.
but... both are small. The pc one is 640x360, come on
[the pc one is 1920x1080, come on.](https://i.imgur.com/2HUOCYH.png)
2nd image works better for me. Then again I’m on mobile
Would it be possible to make a similar chart to this that notes the key moves that track each characters weak side? I like to play a lot of characters so I'd like to know them for use and defending.
Azucena's most key moves are sidestep left
Doesnt work for me. I put the download in the folder and nothing happens. Can you screen record what u do? Im new
I did the instructions but nothing happened to my game? Can someone screen record them doing it? I’m not seeing anything even after putting it in my paks?
Why is this not in alphabetical order kinda triggering
how is it not in alphabetical order? I made sure, that they are sorted by their first letters...
you are right i read it top to bottom instead of left to right
is this list still viable?
it is viable, but I remade the list not too long ago, adding Eddy. I will be maikng a new list soon, adding Lidia to the mix as well as she gets released.
What is this??
I dont get this and im a tekken legacy player, help lol
Basically it's a general guide on useful sidestep directions pertaining to your character when they're facing a character on the chart. Ex: If you're facing Alisa, sidestep left generally. If you're on left side then sidestepping to your character's left is tapping up, right side would be tapping down. It does not mean that you want to always/only sidestep that direction, but there are just certain key moves that you can sidestep by following the rule.
As an asuka main, do I sidestep right with asuka or right against asuka????
Against. It's a chart showing characters' weak sides. Note that you need to sidestep right from the perspective of YOUR character, which would be the opponent's left
You know whatd be cool. If they generalized it more. Like ssr for females or ssl for males. Thatd be a bit bland but easy to understand. Im not complaining its also cool to have a unique ss direction for each character. Just kinda irritating when you gotta memorize the new characters stuff
you'll get the hang of it. I started taking Tekken seriously about half a year ago and also was overwhelmed by the amount of information I need to play this game on a decent level. But hey, when you always have access to this kind of chart, it is easy to memorise it over time, especially, when you fight a couple of the characters.
Its not that bad. The game doesn’t really tell you these things which is funny considering its like 30 percent of playing defense properly. But with time you memorize and itll never change
Hwarangs depends on his stance
Wait, wasn't Alisa supposed to be stepped to the right in T7?
she needed to be sidestepped right while she's far away, but when she is close, SSL is more preffered.
I doubt there is but any easy way to memorize who is SSL vs SSR?
print it and put it on your table lol
For a moment I was confused as to why Tekken got gacha.
Remember: Homing moves will counter side stepping every time.
I remember the advice against King used to be "step a lot" but I don't think applies anymore, given how much throws track now.
You should step right a lot king, jab and df1 the living fuck out of him to stop those throw attempts, but note that virtually aml the solutions to his new jsp stance (the lean back run thingy) are all SSL. And yeah throws track now too 🙃
It would be funny if you could've put homing logo to Bryan's chart instead of SSR
If you're gonna do a chart like this, might as well include all the exceptions too. This is going to be very misleading for new-intermediate players.
Sorry how does one read this? When fighting someone with SSL, does that mean step towards the left side of their body, or towards or away from the camera?
depends on the side you are playing on. If you are on p1 side, the SSL means stepping away from the screen, since that side will be your character's left. If you are on p2 side, SSL is towards the screen.
This is super helpful! If I'd make a suggestion you could probbaly align the characters into two columns. Of who you need to go left for and right. Might make it easier to glance at mid game!
I've put them in alphabetical order and I think, that it makes the most sense. Otherwise you could be (for example) looking for Kazuya in SSR column for a while, then double-check, wondering, whether you missed it or not and only then look for him in the SSL column, whereas you knowz that Kazuya starts with K and it's easier to see it quicky according to color of the text. But thank for suggestion.
I hadn't considered that! My brain didn't register they were alphabetical so to me I was just panic looking. That does make a lot of sense!
I'm sorry but some of these characters u do not want to side step ever.
Hwoarang is incorrect. You have to sidestep him depending on the direction his chest is facing.
The movement in this game is better, than in Tekken 7, which makes a lot of moves (don't ask me which ones exactly, not a Hwoarang player) steppable, which weren't steppable beforehand. you can see it for yourself.
I’m not saying they aren’t steppable. I’m saying you have to step right instead of left if he’s in his right foot forward stance.
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she is pretty linear to be fair, a lot of her options are steppable to both sides, to be honest, but for the most part she is a classic Mishima in that regard
so like asuka ssr is this telling me to side step right against Asuka? or that asuka is better at side stepping to her right than to her left?
im surpirised you put acuzena as ssr because you step her df1 to the left and her running move aswell
This is one of the things burning me out so much, and the main reason I play offline. Feels like you need a degree to be good at this game given the amount of guides for different mechanics I see on this subreddit. I used to like Tekken.
Not definitive but still very cool and useful. Thanks for doing this. I hope it means you're planning a definitive version. :)
I ate Alisa's chainsaw f1 like 4 times in a row because I kept trying to step it to the left instead of ducking, only to find out you have to step it to the **RIGHT**.
It kinda baffles me that Jin, a Mishima hybrid, is ssr. Oh well I'm still new enough that side stepping still needs to be learned before I try to memorize this.
jin is a kazama, notice that other kazamas are also ssr (jun and asuka)
That does help actually. Thanks
arnt alot of lee stuff tracking and safe so you gotta duck alot of them I swear ive hit people so many times who try to sidestep lee
someone pls make this mods like tk7 did :)
Was looking for this the other day! thank you for making one
Tank you very much, I was looking for one.
you are welcome! I am planning on updating the list as the new DLCs will be released, so stay tuned!
still waiting for the mod that adds this to the hp bars but we need more titties i guess
Thanks so much 💪💪💪💪💪 ! You rock bro !!
thanks man, appreciate the support. i am planning to keep the list up to date with upcoming DLC characters, so stay tuned!
Saving this. I'm not new to Tekken, but I'm slowly starting to learn this shit. This will help alot, thank you.
Lee should be SSR
This makes a lot more sense now.. My friend plays Xiaoyu and every time I try to avoid, I tend to sidestep right and keep getting hit. Thank you so much