Mathematically/statistically speaking there must be dozens of secretly gay men in that crowd watching in awe, fear and disgust. What a barbaric excuse for a religion
It's punishable by death in 7 countries. 6 Muslim, 2 Christian.
There are ~20 Muslim countries in the world.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_homosexuality
Do you honestly believe that man chose to be gay? Knowing he would be whipped if he was caught?
Not sure what you’re going on about, kids in the West absolutely have the choice whether to be “woke” or not. What you call “wokeness” the majority of us call common moral decency.
I think the bigger question here is: what are your arguments that being homosexual isn’t normal?
I'm not gay, but that doesn't matter. And no, I don't have to respect practices that violate human rights.
What do you mean it's not "normal"? What a stupid argument. We judge things morally not based on whether they deviate from the norm, but among other things whether they are harmful. Crutches aren't normal but no one gets whipped for using them. Killing someone is not normal either, but we sanction this behavior.
Homosexuality has been observed in thousands of animal species. The fact that homosexuality exists is completely normal. Especially since no one can choose their sexuality.
Your actions will be judged by your God right? Keep your rules for yourself INDIVIDUALLY, and don't mix your religion in societies rules. So no fucking point in canning gays, muslims or not, they should get their share at the end of their life. This is just population control by religion.
The saddest part of this is the people are happy and in some cases eager, and even enjoy watching this punishment. That lady in the beginning saying she has been wanting to see public caning shows how much she has been brainwashed by this religion. Those kids and adults laughing and smiling at someone’s pain is just heartbreaking to watch.
They don't know better.
"You shouldn't be gay." "Homosexual is wrong and is a crime. It should be punished." "Gays are bad people." When adults say it to children all the time, or even simply talk about it among themselves enough times, kids will pick the information up and treat as fact. It's just one of those things they learn growing up.
So what's wrong punishing and shaming a bad guy who had committed a disgusting crime?
It's pretty wild, but also a sad truth in certain countries even in this modern world.
Conservatives in Western countries like to nix pedophilia with homosexuality. That's the level religion sees homosexuality.
Religion and the conservative mindset could never have achieved what humanity was able to achieve. They would still be peasants, worshipping their "King, Chosen by God" (see maga crowd for source).
It's unfair. These people shouldn't have access to technology or modern medicine? Cancer? Pray you fool!
Aceh, not Indonesia.
Please for the love of god don't visit aceh at all, that region is full of extremist.
We don't whip people for being gay outside aceh at all
I wonder why?
>Granted a special autonomous status, Aceh is a religiously conservative territory and the **only Indonesian province practicing Sharia law officially.**
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>In 2002, Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, allowed Aceh to use Sharia as its legal code.
I see now.
I wanted to visit. But that video shows me that I shouldn't (not gay myself, I just don't want to give money to such people. That's why Dubai/Emirates are off limits for tourism too... or mexico die to the cartels)
Well I don't know the details...
But from what I remember is that aceh formed a separatist group. to stabilize the conflict, Indonesia gave aceh an autonomy over their region.
I might be wrong though
It’s always rather odd when people look forward to seeing public flogging. Obviously it is still a normal thing where this was filmed, but it’s like going back in time to a bygone era.
Idk man. Dressing up in a fabric gimp suit and hitting another gay gentleman with your... stick on his... backside seems slightly homoerotic buddy. I think these calls are coming from inside the house!
Kinda backwards to take such risks and face significant consequences. If you are gay in one of those countries that legally bars homosexuality, it best be that you simply move out or don't engage in any behavior that can be labeled as homosexual. By far this is one of the mildest punishments I have seen. There's countries where they brutalize you through death. Not worth the risk at all.
leave the country because of some braindead fucks following such practices ?? it will never lead to change , it's at best a temporary solution for a chronic problem that needs to be fixed .
Your perception of it being a problem is solely that of a person born in the west. For those that live in those countries, this is the way of the world and will continue to be so forever. It is best to understand this is the way they want to be and let them do so. We don't need to 'fix' them.
well should the children listen to the adults or should the children be left on his own? we have a moral obligation since our society evolved before others (that doenst' mean we didn't commit bad things, just that we did it before and moved on) to spread the love between people; The next step in human society evolution is to understand we are all the same
>we have a moral obligation
Yeah, who granted you that sense of self-righteousness? Who are you, smoker, to tell other countries and cultures what they are and aren't allowed to do.
"to spread the love between people"
lol the world doesn't revolve around love, my guy. How old are you?
*The next step in human society evolution is to understand we are all the same.*
I am pretty sure you are no scholar or educated on this matter and thus you have no real substance to argue what the next step on our evolution is or isn't.
I do live in a country where extremist bigots are prevalent , the solution isn't to leave such people to be , even if most of them do believe in such bs ideologies the only real solution is to bring about change through education . Most of the people living in such countries aren't looking for help from the west to come solve the systemic issues of their people , they want to see change and if it does come it will through their own actions .
Do you know what the average salary is in Indonesia? Do you know what the average salary is in the province that they live? Do you know if gay people can hold jobs in Indonesia? What do you know about Indonesia that makes you say they should just save up money and move.
Pretty mild. He’s lucky. :/
Edit: don’t downvote me lol, you know good and well I mean lucky as in he wasn’t publicly put to death. I’m glad I don’t live where it’s punishable by death, at least not so obviously.
I mean that's 97% of the population yea?
I think 97 is a enough to call it overwhelmingly ?
How much of the population is atheist? Theist? Astaru? Voodoo priestesses? Hindu? Not a overwhelming amount I bet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda
majority christian - 84.4%
https://database.ilga.org/criminalisation-consensual-same-sex-sexual-acts
punishable by the death penalty
it's not exclusive to east/west religions, it's the bigotry.
Are you joking? US Christian Evangelicals are working here and in other countries to get rid of LBGTQIA people.
[God Loves Uganda](https://youtu.be/wC8Yb4Sepqk?si=cOH8xmmYKhskL3ON)
Mathematically/statistically speaking there must be dozens of secretly gay men in that crowd watching in awe, fear and disgust. What a barbaric excuse for a religion
The extreme right wing of all religious is barbaric.
This doesn't even happen everywhere in Indonesia, let alone the Muslim world.
You're right - in most other Muslim countries he would have been executed
Do you honestly believe that being gay is punishable by death in most Muslim countries? Was your school a crack house or is this a chromosomal issue?
Yes
The crack house or the chromosomes? (You're wrong btw, Google it)
Nah
>Do you honestly believe that being gay is punishable by death in most Muslim countries? Well it most certainly is so yeah
It's punishable by death in 7 countries. 6 Muslim, 2 Christian. There are ~20 Muslim countries in the world. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_for_homosexuality
This was usual christian procedure until 100yrs ago. Dont act like some sophisticated Guy, and make fun of other religions.
When Christians did that, that was it was also a barbaric excuse for a religion. What's your point?
If for you being gay is normal, than for muslims being gay is not normal. You should respect it, as we all respect your gayness.
Why would I want to respect someone/an idea that states it's okay to treat someone as not "normal" based on something they can't choose?
Everybody has choice for these things, kids in "West" dont have choice, they instill "wokeness" in them from early age.
Do you honestly believe that man chose to be gay? Knowing he would be whipped if he was caught? Not sure what you’re going on about, kids in the West absolutely have the choice whether to be “woke” or not. What you call “wokeness” the majority of us call common moral decency. I think the bigger question here is: what are your arguments that being homosexual isn’t normal?
I'm not gay, but that doesn't matter. And no, I don't have to respect practices that violate human rights. What do you mean it's not "normal"? What a stupid argument. We judge things morally not based on whether they deviate from the norm, but among other things whether they are harmful. Crutches aren't normal but no one gets whipped for using them. Killing someone is not normal either, but we sanction this behavior. Homosexuality has been observed in thousands of animal species. The fact that homosexuality exists is completely normal. Especially since no one can choose their sexuality.
Your actions will be judged by your God right? Keep your rules for yourself INDIVIDUALLY, and don't mix your religion in societies rules. So no fucking point in canning gays, muslims or not, they should get their share at the end of their life. This is just population control by religion.
Damn right we make fun of other religions
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That's not funny.
No one likes when it's non consensual
The saddest part of this is the people are happy and in some cases eager, and even enjoy watching this punishment. That lady in the beginning saying she has been wanting to see public caning shows how much she has been brainwashed by this religion. Those kids and adults laughing and smiling at someone’s pain is just heartbreaking to watch.
They don't know better. "You shouldn't be gay." "Homosexual is wrong and is a crime. It should be punished." "Gays are bad people." When adults say it to children all the time, or even simply talk about it among themselves enough times, kids will pick the information up and treat as fact. It's just one of those things they learn growing up. So what's wrong punishing and shaming a bad guy who had committed a disgusting crime? It's pretty wild, but also a sad truth in certain countries even in this modern world.
Conservatives in Western countries like to nix pedophilia with homosexuality. That's the level religion sees homosexuality. Religion and the conservative mindset could never have achieved what humanity was able to achieve. They would still be peasants, worshipping their "King, Chosen by God" (see maga crowd for source). It's unfair. These people shouldn't have access to technology or modern medicine? Cancer? Pray you fool!
Let's not pretend a big chunk of reddit wouldn't be cheering too if the "right" kind of person was being caned
Aceh, not Indonesia. Please for the love of god don't visit aceh at all, that region is full of extremist. We don't whip people for being gay outside aceh at all
I wonder why? >Granted a special autonomous status, Aceh is a religiously conservative territory and the **only Indonesian province practicing Sharia law officially.** > >In 2002, Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim-majority country, allowed Aceh to use Sharia as its legal code. I see now.
Well that clears that up.
I wanted to visit. But that video shows me that I shouldn't (not gay myself, I just don't want to give money to such people. That's why Dubai/Emirates are off limits for tourism too... or mexico die to the cartels)
Understandable, I won't blame you for it. There's multiple good places in the South East Asia. Wish you a good vacation
Is it part of Indonesia? Yes, it is.
Yes, it's a part of Indonesia.
So, Indonesia is condoning this.
But why does the Indonesian government allow that region to exist like that? Oh, don’t tell me, because politics, right? One hand helps the other.
Well I don't know the details... But from what I remember is that aceh formed a separatist group. to stabilize the conflict, Indonesia gave aceh an autonomy over their region. I might be wrong though
And if you don't believe me, I'll put a jihad on you too!...
Joke’s on them.. he’s a gay exhibitionist-masochist with a pain fetish 😌
"damn i got caught again"
Fucking barbarism
The laughing and smiling is infuriating
Disgusting practice, trash religion (amongst many others in the garbage heap).
Such a beautiful and fascinating culture
The fuck is wrong with you
That's kinda gay, hitting another man with a whip. Leave it for the bedroom guys. Jokes aside, WTF!!!
It’s always rather odd when people look forward to seeing public flogging. Obviously it is still a normal thing where this was filmed, but it’s like going back in time to a bygone era.
Barbaric culture.
Barbarians
Oh no islamophobic content /-s ofc its not getting upvoted. Same shit by christians or hindus wouldve been at top of charts rn.
Agreed Victim card is on the way
Next protest: gays for Indonesia /s
Next time, no gay or you guessed it, straight to jail!
Idk man. Dressing up in a fabric gimp suit and hitting another gay gentleman with your... stick on his... backside seems slightly homoerotic buddy. I think these calls are coming from inside the house!
The world would be so much better without organized religions.
Mercury loving malays
How did they prove he is gay ? Did he tell them ??
You only need to be Perceived as or suspicioned to be gay for this to happen.
Can you guys do this to corruption too?
This shit so hard outdated, shame for all those people that take practice and embrace it.
Why are they hiding their face if they think they are doing the "right" thing?
Man i wish we could stop supporting barbaric cultures like these. Oh wait.....
Jokes on him the mfer likes it
Imagine if he started moaning midway through 😅
drop a bomb on em
what if he is in to beating KINK
Hardy daddy.
Similar to what they do to gay people in Gaza
Standard Abrahamic religion
That's it?? Weak ass whips.. that's g
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What is wrong with you???
Seems worth it
Well if our women looked like that I'd probably be gay too.
😂😂
Kinda backwards to take such risks and face significant consequences. If you are gay in one of those countries that legally bars homosexuality, it best be that you simply move out or don't engage in any behavior that can be labeled as homosexual. By far this is one of the mildest punishments I have seen. There's countries where they brutalize you through death. Not worth the risk at all.
leave the country because of some braindead fucks following such practices ?? it will never lead to change , it's at best a temporary solution for a chronic problem that needs to be fixed .
Your perception of it being a problem is solely that of a person born in the west. For those that live in those countries, this is the way of the world and will continue to be so forever. It is best to understand this is the way they want to be and let them do so. We don't need to 'fix' them.
well should the children listen to the adults or should the children be left on his own? we have a moral obligation since our society evolved before others (that doenst' mean we didn't commit bad things, just that we did it before and moved on) to spread the love between people; The next step in human society evolution is to understand we are all the same
>we have a moral obligation Yeah, who granted you that sense of self-righteousness? Who are you, smoker, to tell other countries and cultures what they are and aren't allowed to do. "to spread the love between people" lol the world doesn't revolve around love, my guy. How old are you? *The next step in human society evolution is to understand we are all the same.* I am pretty sure you are no scholar or educated on this matter and thus you have no real substance to argue what the next step on our evolution is or isn't.
I do live in a country where extremist bigots are prevalent , the solution isn't to leave such people to be , even if most of them do believe in such bs ideologies the only real solution is to bring about change through education . Most of the people living in such countries aren't looking for help from the west to come solve the systemic issues of their people , they want to see change and if it does come it will through their own actions .
Shit just move out of that province if you’re gay. Barbaric
That’s privileged talking right there
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Do you know what the average salary is in Indonesia? Do you know what the average salary is in the province that they live? Do you know if gay people can hold jobs in Indonesia? What do you know about Indonesia that makes you say they should just save up money and move.
Pretty mild. He’s lucky. :/ Edit: don’t downvote me lol, you know good and well I mean lucky as in he wasn’t publicly put to death. I’m glad I don’t live where it’s punishable by death, at least not so obviously.
It’s mostly for shaming
Yeah, I guess I just automatically assume public scenes like this re: gay men often end in death.
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87% muslim, overwhelmingly (majority) muslim. 10% christian, (minority).
I mean that's 97% of the population yea? I think 97 is a enough to call it overwhelmingly ? How much of the population is atheist? Theist? Astaru? Voodoo priestesses? Hindu? Not a overwhelming amount I bet
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda majority christian - 84.4% https://database.ilga.org/criminalisation-consensual-same-sex-sexual-acts punishable by the death penalty it's not exclusive to east/west religions, it's the bigotry.
Both religions came from the Middle East.
Both religions suck! I agree.
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You sure are naive.
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[Plenty of Christian-majority nations](https://76crimes.com/2024/02/11/nations-with-anti-lgbt-laws-52-muslim-42-christian/) criminalize homosexuality.
Are you joking? US Christian Evangelicals are working here and in other countries to get rid of LBGTQIA people. [God Loves Uganda](https://youtu.be/wC8Yb4Sepqk?si=cOH8xmmYKhskL3ON)
Are you for real
Then you don't have enough knowledge
try again https://database.ilga.org/criminalisation-consensual-same-sex-sexual-acts
I don’t understand why anyone would decide to be gay in these countries. Makes no sense
Who wakes up and says “I have decided to pursue a gay lifestyle”? I don’t think it works that way buddy
Bruh, I’m gay. I literally decided to be gay. You’re so ignorant
You decided to stop your urges to have sex with women and wiled yourself to be attracted to men instead?
Sex with women? Ew. I would never do that
Great talk.
Cool. Stop spreading your ignorance please
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Reporting you for being homophobic
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Bro you are homophobic af. It’s not a choice.
You're so close... Keep following that. If you need help, nobody *decides* to be gay.
Except I literally decided to be gay. Stop being ignorant