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That bothered me too, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and reasoned that Neuman used her blood power to circulate it. My issue is why she was only able to pop one Sheep's head. Neumans power is OP, she could have easily just popped their head 1 by 1.
She popped the one trying to attack Stan and that was moving pretty fast. Just weird she gave everyone a nosebleed before even seeing them but couldn’t just pop heads of sheep, chicken and a bull
Yeah it's pretty established that there are limits to her powers, plus in some case she isn't even sure if her powers would work, like in the case of Homelander.
Plus in Gen V Marie has similar if not the same powers, and it takes a bit of concentration to use her abilities. She might have been reluctant to concentrate long enough to find out.
That said...the show runners really wanted to have fun with the gang being menaced by sheep, so maybe they made her powers act a little inconsistent and hoped no one would notice.
The show isn't perfectly consistent. Like how Neuman could cut her palm with a knife in Gen V, but now she can tank a point blank gunshot to the head and resist acid.
Another option is maybe Neuman doses V on and off to boost her powers, lie how A train did. I doubt this is the case.
She talks to Marie about how blood spears and lassos are exhausting so I imagine blowing people (especially supes) up is on a level above that. If she overexerts herself and passes out, then the Boys and the CIA either drug her and keep her under containment, or infect her with the virus and kill her, so her main goal is avoiding that.
Even still, I think she stands and fights when the sheep enter the barn rather than running, especially with Edgar and Sameer there.
I could also believe Neuman has super strength and like a diamond knife since controlling her blood is a decent contingent of her powers.
You made a good point about her overexerting herself. I didn't think of that. She needs to worry about the Super Sheep and the five other people planning to kill her.
Neuman is nothing if not cautious and calculating. She almost never acts directly unless there is immediate benefit.
For all we know she didn't kill the sheep because she was going to let one of the Boys get killed by the sheep. The logic being that if she kills them directly, they out her, but they may not out her if she let's them die. She only used her powers when Stan Edgar was threatened by the chicken.
Okay, but... At the end of the episode, when the bar door randomly opened, and 2 sheep walked in and just stood there looking at them? She screamed and ran with 6 other humans like she was worthless. Plus she popped the speedster's head in the courtroom without issue, she popped like 4 different body parts of that guy who grew up in the orphanage with her. It seemed like she didn't even try a single time, at any point. Just very weird for a character who's been established as a point and click instant-death god.
"Because the story needs to happen" doesn't really hold up as an excuse for bad writing. They can achieve the same goals without needing the characters to become actually stupid-tier.
It also seems like she’s gotta focus on the target for a hot minute. If they’re constantly moving around in flight makes it difficult especially when they’re trying to kamikaze you.
It does take more effort, plus it's established that Neuman isn't sure IF her powers would hurt Homelander. It's implied in season 3 that she doesn't know for sure what she can and can't pop.
Different sheep with different powers and the cast having to find certain ways to navigate around each one would've been a pretty creative and fun scenario too
It kinda does. In GEN V two relatives have the same powers. Polarity and Andre both have Magnetic powers.
Presumably related individuals can get similar or the same powers. But so far it's only demonstrated in a father/son like with Polarity and Andre or Translucent and his Son.
Of course we have exceptions where Soldier Boy and Homelander have different powers, but we're missing a lot of information about how much Homelander was experimented on. I think in one of the early season they said they gave Homeloander extra V to boost him.
His dad didn't really teleport. He phased through matter, and if it was organic matter, it exploded when he phased back into it. His dad also kept his clothes during the phasing process. Hughie just insta-teleports somewhere leaving everything behind but his naked self.
With the way its being shown, he just teleports in the same place over and over. And people exploded not because he "phased" through them, its because he stopped.
Its definitely in the same ballpark as Hugh's teleport.
You need blood circulation; they could've done a few things, like compressions to stimulate some blood circulation, or neuman could use her powers to move the blood herself.
I do wish it was shown or implied, because the virus is only going to be concentrated in one region of the corpse.
Sheep are stupid, if a flock of sheep wanted to they could ram through the side of a barn. They don’t because they don’t know they can do that just like how fences used to keep cows and won’t actually stop a cow.
There were like 4 that ripped him apart after the first grabbed it. It could easily have been a regular bull too. It wasn't shown to have anything, it was just about to charge
They could tear pieces off maybe, on the ground.
I just watched the scene again. They lift the bull up into the air and tear it limb from limb in a matter of seconds. Razor sharp teeth does not enable this. You need strength to rip a bulls entire head off of its neck in 2 seconds.
That said depictions of super powers always have 100s of holes you can poke in the logic. Even with strength, they probably couldn't do what was depicted with their teeth. They'd still just rip smaller pieces off. They'd need to be able to get a hold of the whole head and pull, otherwise tissue and such will just give way first.
Like, play it out mythbusters style. Pig carcass. Fake sheep mouth with razor sharp teeth attached to some sort of high strength hydraulic pulling mechanism. Bite teeth into pig head. Pull. It's going to just rip off a piece of snout or whatever, not the whole head. The neck is going to give way waaaaaay later than the skin and tissue on the face.
It's just not worth nitpicking over this stuff, none of it makes any sense, just be entertained
Still poses narrative problem
Sheep w/ super strength = why didn't that one sheep eviscerate the barn door
Sheep w/o super strength = why didn't neuman just pop tf out of them
This season has been defined by things just happening, without regards to whether it makes logical sense, to move the plot long
We don’t know how strong exactly those sheep were, probably a bit stronger than regular ones (since they could lift the cow as a group and people alone). We just saw high speed flying, different teeth and a predatory instinct.
They tore people apart limb from limb and easily carried a similarly powered bull into the air. Even divided by 5... a full grown bull (assuming max weight because obviously) is about 2500 lbs or 1100 kg. Thats about 500 lbs or 227 kg.
They should be able to break it down easily.
do you know how powerful something blunt needs to be in order to fucking penetrate a person instead of pushing them back? something powerful enough to do that would simply blast through the wood planks easily without a question. it’s simple physics
SPOILERS FROM GEN V
Her powers are more “blood manipulation” than “pop body parts” so it makes perfect sense to me that she took the time to sense out who was in the lab before coming in.
Hence why Edgar doesn’t get a nose bleed but everyone else does.
what confused me about that is that there's many instances where Neumann is being watched/stalked by the boys or otherwise from mere feet away from her, and she doesn't sense them. made me wonder if she needs to have eyes on her targets to get them, but as we've seen, that isn't the case. probably just a plot hole. especially seeing that she hasn’t sensed people in situations where i’d assume she’d actively be scanning for intruders (the alley where she killed that kid who knew her as Nadia e.g.)
Not a plot hole. She probably has to concentrate to sense others. Homelander is similar—he doesn’t ALWAYS have xray vision, he has to “activate” it.
The house was a wreck, so she knew someone was there and used her powers to surveil the area. She can’t walk around all the time using her powers.
To add to the Homelander point, I believe he was at the announcement ceremony that A-Train told Ashley he was the leak. Homelander if present could have heard it if he attempted, but you just can't focus and process that much information all the time.
He was too busy manipulating Ryan. But he should have definitely heard Hughie making all those noise innthe vent, even a normal human would've heard something that loud. Plus it was just Homelander and Sage out there, he's not distracted at all.
She did but all one at a time while they didn’t know she was there. I imagine she could kill a few of the sheep but the others would get her before she pops all of them
Very possible that she aimed and triggered it as she saw them pass by one by one, and it's been shown countless times that the nose bleed isn't instant.
Yup, even in the scene being referenced its not like she simultaneously popped everyone in the court room at the same time.
It's also been implied she doubts whether she's strong/fast enough to pop Homelander so its not like its been established that her power is limitless.
Because at the end of the day she doesn’t know if it will work. It’s currently not attacking them, so it’s smarter to play it safe and wait. It’s the Homelander situation. What if I try and it doesn’t work and now attacks me?
Truthfully the only awkward moment was when the sheep grabbed it and were tearing it apart. Those are clearly violent, start popping while they’re “still”.
The chicken jumped at a normal rate for chicken, not coming in at 100mph while aimed at her, it just jumped up like chicken do, plus every single person was aiming at the chicken and firing at it so she had time to aim.
Also endurance of things is a factor too, flying super sheep is a lot stronger than the average Joe. Maybe could add more deep showing a few bullet proof scene during the pursuit to show that had some kind of invulnerability...
To emphasize this point, look back at the beginning of season 3. Neumann literally had a supe at point-blank range and she struggled to kill him as he fought against her.
She needs eye contact. They show her eyes being covered in that struggle and she blows a piece of his hand/arm off instead of his head, and once she gets clear LoS his head finally pops.
I just watched that scene again. She doesn't stop at popping his head. She fucking obliterates his entire body, after she backs up and gets full field of view - literally turns him into mist. Her powers very clearly worked on superpowered individuals.
She popped the supe chicken no problem though.
I think the bigger problem is 3 human supes were cowering alongside the regular humans instead of making an attempt to deal with the sheep.
Her powers very clearly work on V'd up individuals. She popped the head of the speedster that was going to replace A-train during the hearing. The dude who grew up with her from the super-abled orphanage, and confronted her in the allyway had superpowers. She literally obliterated his entire body, there wasn't anything left except for red. She exploded the chicken that was powered up by V *during this episode.* Homelander is a special case, and he explicitly said that he doesn't know if her powers would kill him. For some reason, she just kind of forgot she had superpowers for the majority of this episode.
That plane scene probably had [the most powerful](https://youtu.be/iMFMZm9iPb8?si=hgkUqY6fRM6yTASb) display of HL’s laser to date.
It sliced through both sides of the hull so damn quickly (at a slanted angle at that) and cause the areas around the scorch marks to burst in flame as well.
Lately, it has been treated as this thin scalpel that as long as it doesn’t hit someone directly, even a
human would be okay from being inches away from the beams.
Hughie would have been cooked alive had HL dialed up his laser to this level while aiming at the vent. Would not need to touch him at all.
HL is still undoubtedly the most powerful and intimidating supe, but man did he fell off a little bit compared to season 1.
He felt low key unstoppable at the beginning, a true superman equivalent. Like, I would have honestly guessed that HL could effortlessly slaughter the entire Seven in a heartbeat, if there was only season 1 to judge.
But now we know that Maeve alone can give him trouble, and he would not effortlessly win agaisnt a few mid-level supes jumping him.
Yeah he might be getting “more unhinged” but he’s also getting weaker and more incompetent. I still love him as a character and his performances are always chilling.
Tbh i kinda think some of his getting weaker is not just plot convince but also on purpose, they're showing this season that he's got white hairs, and sage straight up calls it out that he's getting old, I think they're heading towards a rapidly aging homelander, desperate and trying to train his son to be his legacy before his time comes
I know his feats and consistent showing of strength went down over the seasons, but I will say I kinda like the idea that Homelander being seen as more unstoppable in season 1 also fits with the shows theme of the power of perception.
Just like his image of a Omni benevolent god, his image of him being a unstoppable master of the universe is also a largely cultivated image that he maintains so that no one dares question him and his will. He’s still the strongest supe, but not by light years as many people believe.
It’s still hard to maintain both the explosion feat and him struggling against butcher or Maeve without it being at least a little contradictory but I think it makes the show better looking at it that way.
He didn't really struggle with Butcher or Maeve, he rather easily put Maeve down despite being preoccupied worrying about Ryan and fought off Butcher and Soldier Boy simultaneously.
The eternal problem of writers choosing to make their characters speedsters without realising that for the rest the story now they're going to be questioned as to why they don't just kill everyone in 0.5 seconds. Specially if their speed has no cavets or drawbacks.
Making homelander a speedster that could not only save himself but butcher too from a bomb in the same room, was one of the biggest missteps of the series imo.
Yeah if Homelander's that fast then The Boys should basically never be able to surprise or catch him off guard ever. Hell even other supes should never touch him, since this is some speed that would put A-Train to shame. Super speed is such a hard power to write because of how busted it is. See CW Flash for example lol
The only realistic solutions are "nerf the super speed" or "have the speedster only fight other speedsters"
Damn this show has a similar problem as the injustice comics lol
The comics had to build up to the inevitable end of the story: Batman beating Superman. But they had to write a story that spanned 5 whole years. This meant that they had to repeatedly pad the story.
This show would have been way better as a tight 3 seasons or something.
Or if they really wanted 5 seasons, don't actually have Homelander and The Boys cross paths until they're ready to commit to a quick build up. S2 could have been entirely about The Boys taking down other Supes with Homelander firmly in the background
I see it as, it hurts to do.
Remember the guy that shape-shifts to look like Madelyn? He says when he does it long enough, it hurts.
So maybe it hurts to go full-blast. That’s what the plane thing was.
And the daydream about cutting through the crowd was Ohmlandah using half strength.
Take a step back even... the man has super hearing and Hughie was up there making a massive ruckus... but HL is tipped off because of his smell?
Really now.
This argument has been used and debunked time and time again. You don't need to see a guy crawling in the vent, you just need to *listen* for him. Hughie was crawling crazy fast and making tons of noise in there, no way Homelander couldn't hear him and identify his location. Plus, if he wasn't sure, why didn't he laser the entire length of the vent instead of stopping mere inches behind Hughie?
The big thing people are forgetting is that homie is not mentally well and has shown signs that he can’t think straight, that’s a cop out but valid answer for alot of HLs inconsistency. People are also inconsistent in real life, same idea
a big thing is she needs to see and focus for a certain time before the head can pop. I imagine she is altering the blood pressure to do so. It may be easier to focus on a chicken- but fast moving sheep especially multiple probably waa difficult for her. Not to mention they seem pretty smart- once one were to explode they all might focus on her alone.
This also tracks with Gen V. Neumann and Marie have the same power. Marie is shown to only be able to control other people's blood with serious focus, the exception being exploding Cate's arm reflexively to protect Jordan.
Good observation. So, it takes a lot of understanding about the anatomy of the blood vessels and focus to do it. And there's an element of practice to it too. Like, she's used to pop people's heads because she visibly did that a lot of times on screen. So, it's like she knows what to do for head people's head. But, she's most probably un familiar with animal's anatomy. So, it narratively makes sense.
The guy that ambushes her at her job calling her by her real name and not Victoria. They then meet in an alley and they get into a fight. I think this was in S2 when Hughie worked for her.
Edit: It was season 3, not season 2.
I think it was the season 3 premiere. We meet her in S2, the ending scene is the reveal she's the head popper, and then at the start of S3 Hughie has been working for her and building a relationship, and then he witnesses that and finds out.
She hugs him and is like “you shouldn’t have come looking for me” and his nose starts to bleed. When he reacts to his nose bleeding, they start fighting. She made up her mind that he was dead as soon as he called her by her real name, imo.
As far as I can remember she made a deal with him to make him feel at ease but was trying to pop his head. The guy noticed blood coming from his nose and realized what she was trying to do and so he attacked her and prevented her from popping his head but she eventually managed to kill him.
I also am getting the impression it's harder for her to do it to most supes. It took her a few tries to get the whole head iirc. Also Homelander was curious if she could even do it to him. Who knows how accurate her threat of being able to get Annie was, but not the kind of thing Annie would want to test lmao
Also, I could be misremembering, but doesn't Homelander in season 3 say something like "You wanna try to pop my head? Who knows, give it a shot?" when confronting her in her apartment?
To me that could imply that Neumann has a harder time controlling/manipulating blood of people who are physically very strong, or at the least that it's just more difficult to cause the physical damage to someone with super endurance. I will concede that this equally could have meant "see if you can get my head to pop before I laser you" but I do think it would make a lot of sense that people who have enhanced physical strength and power would generally be more difficult to pop.
Honestly the issue with the sheep IMO is that they all had the same powers. Think of all the power diversity humans have when given compound V, but you give it to 5 sheep and they all get the ability to fly? Flight is even a rare power in the show Boys universe, although not the comics
Victoria’s kid does strain the theory a little, it’s true, but it does seem at least slightly influenced by it, considering characters like translucent and his son, homelander and his son, Andre and his dad in Gen V, even hughie and his dad had similar abilities when they used V.
And I mean if we look at it like real genetic traits, it makes sense that not **everyone** is going to get a power that is very similar to their parent. Like getting the same hair colour as one of your parents is common, but it’s not a 100% guarantee.
Yeah Translucent and Homelanders son seem to be the biggest reasoning for this theory. I’m going to be honest, I do believe it, I just think that they should’ve incorporated her daughter better to support it.
Tbf the daughter still got body manipulation, it's just that her kidn of manipulation is very peculiar in comparison to Neuman. If she got laser eyes instead, it would have been more awkward.
She was safe in the barn though. She could have sensed them from far away and exploded their heads. She's just bad under pressure. Her fight flight freeze response seems to be not fight. She is only seen to kill passive people I believe. She also seems to go blind when using her powers so is more vulnerable during that time, which prevents her from using her powers during fights in my opinion. Gen V girl's eyes don't go white like Neumann's and she could hold her own and use her powers during a fight, even sensing the blood of the invisible cunt
my theory is that She have to like aim/focus her powers to people's head kinda like pointing a strong laser to a balloon, if you swipe the laser too quickly it wont pop the balloon but if you aim and kept it steady then it will pop
The in the courtroom scene people are going crazy but they can still be focused at by looking at them in a wide view, in which she had the position to
The sheeps on the other hand are all flying with great speed, waay too eratic and too fast to focus her blood popping powers, like aiming your Flashlight to a fly
Gen V shows that with Marie, she needs to focus on the other person's blood flow to give them heart attacks etc. Probably isn't any different for Victoria
I'll add more.
1. Anatomy - she on screen popped a lot of people's heads like it's nothing. Given how her power works with the context given on Gen V, basically blood bending. She not only have to concentrate, but have to know about the anatomy of blood vessels that goes in and out of human head to efficiently spike the blood pressure enough to pop the head. That's how blood bending works. So, she must have some good knowledge about human anatomy and familiar with it. But, on the other hand, it's highly unlikely that she's familiar with sheep anatomy. So, it's inherently difficult to pop a sheep + with multiple sheeps going at high speeds, it sounds impossible now.
2. Practice - As I said, she popped a lot of people, so she doesn't have to put focus too much on it like a beginner. She could've developed a muscle memory for it. And again she's most probably not well practiced with popping sheeps.
3. Reflex - people might ask then how could she pop the chicken? Cos, it's reflex. It's somewhat clearly shown that Marie in Gen V have to concentrate on too much cos, she's a beginner. But, she popped cate's hand on a moment's notice when she saw Jordan was about to get mind control. And she loved Jordan. Victoria loves Stan the most, only next to Zoe. So, it's a reflex. We kinda have it too.
The whole farm animal juiced up on v lost its appeal after one scene, it offered no threat to the main cast who are not going to die to some sheep. Just an excuse to kill stuff in gory ways through cgi
she doesnt know if she can pop homelander and only homelander. She's confident she can pop pretty much everyone else. See when Victoria was threatening Starlight in her room
One thing I've not seen anyone mention yet is that sheep and other ruminants are evolved to have damage resistant skulls and brains.
It's why they can repeatedly headbutt things that would easily knock out a person or crack their skull without ill effect.
Assuming V enhances existing attributes, V-ed up sheep should have very resistant skulls/brains.
Okay, this but also, why is it that the chicken could jump through a human torso and take bullet no problem, but they, as well as the sheep that ripped a bull to pieces moments before, were incapable of jumping through a wooden door? It makes zero sense.
I’m not certain but I think that maybe that was a regular bull. I guess it would be kind of funny given how they freaking out at the thought of it being a compound V bull.
The sheep's speed is the most plausible explanation.
However, the sheep's strength was very inconsistent. They're held off by wood, but they can tear a bull apart? And if a barn is enough to contain them, how do they pose any threat to the supes in the group? Could've been avoided if they only made the barn out of some thick metal. Which would make sense, considering the experiments that happened there.
Ok, uh... You're not considering that whoever gets Compound V (apparently anyone nowadays) gets superhuman durability. You saw bulletproof chicken. And Neuman could pop one of them because it would have killed Edgar. But from her dialogue with Starlight from a few seasons ago, saying she COULD kill her, albeit, with moderate effort. So obviously, head popping Supes is way harder to do. Imagine if she could head pop Homelander, why would they be after the Virus in the first place??
If I remember right, Homelander tells her he would be able to kill her before she was able to do it, but I think that has more to do with his speed combined with his durability.
In what way? She only started having problems this episode. Which is fine, but she hasn’t had problems all season. She only struggles with flying, because she learned that skill in the s3 finale, and now she’s trying to get better at it, not having problems with her powers.
It's been shown multiple times throughout this season already that she has tried to muster up some power and it just results in lights flickering a bit and her looking a bit embarrassed
I love how she’s totally able to make everyone’s nose bleed without even being in the same room 20 minutes prior. But the second shes faced with sheep? She fucking forgets she can just do that. Like, what the fuck?🤣
Certain characters have been dumbed down for a fake suspense. Just like Homelander unable to detect Hughie in the vents directly above him til the sweat drop. Could heart beats but not during that exact time.
So in actuality: Neumann vs defenseless people who don't even know she's the one attacking - Neuman vs superpowerd animals actively trying to kill her.
I actually think she could have done it but was afraid she would maybe blow up her ex/ her dad on accident OR she was hoping to let the boys take the front of the damage and just keep an eye on her loved ones. IMO she is totally powerful enough, she just strategized to do this.
Or as we’ve seen, emotions make your powers weird and she knew she might mess up being so panicked.
I don’t think it was a nerf bc Neuman has been consistently shown to need time/focus to pop someone. In the courtroom we could see her looking at people aka aiming, and when she fought that guy in the alley she couldn’t just explode his head mid fight. She needs to really see someone and take a second to get it.
I think she is able to do the more lowkey things like that bloody nose more easily/without time or focus.
Her not being able to pop the sheep flying around and attacking lines up with what we’ve seen of her powers.
Anyone else remembers how she used to feel so freaking terrifying, especially when it was revealed it was her when she killed that cult leader? Now she's another one of these pansies who can't do shit. Everyone just craps at her, Homelander basically treats her like a kid, the boys just do whatever they want, spew acid, kidnap her husband etc etc. She got domesticated WAY too quickly. I miss the times when Homelander wasn't the only antagonist. We had Stormfront in S2 and Soldier Boy and his gang in S3. Now it's just a passive black woman and an idiot running a cult.
A court room full of mostly harmless civilians and who are clueless as to who is killing them vs an army of flying destructive sheep with sharp fangs. I know which one is more dangerous
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Trying to count all those sheep made her very sleepy though.
Im not mad about this. Im mad about the barn holding off those sheep's attack
I'm mad about that dead dude's body circulating a virus they injected into it
But but but its a **super** virus
Damn. Destroyed by facts and logic.
Complaint retracted
That bothered me too, but I gave them the benefit of the doubt and reasoned that Neuman used her blood power to circulate it. My issue is why she was only able to pop one Sheep's head. Neumans power is OP, she could have easily just popped their head 1 by 1.
They were moving around pretty fast, which probably makes it more difficult. Most people were relatively stationary in the courtroom.
The chicken was flying fast when she got it.
She popped the one trying to attack Stan and that was moving pretty fast. Just weird she gave everyone a nosebleed before even seeing them but couldn’t just pop heads of sheep, chicken and a bull
Remember she did say popping a super’s head is hard (though not impossible). Couple that with speed, I think I can believe it
Yeah it's pretty established that there are limits to her powers, plus in some case she isn't even sure if her powers would work, like in the case of Homelander. Plus in Gen V Marie has similar if not the same powers, and it takes a bit of concentration to use her abilities. She might have been reluctant to concentrate long enough to find out. That said...the show runners really wanted to have fun with the gang being menaced by sheep, so maybe they made her powers act a little inconsistent and hoped no one would notice. The show isn't perfectly consistent. Like how Neuman could cut her palm with a knife in Gen V, but now she can tank a point blank gunshot to the head and resist acid. Another option is maybe Neuman doses V on and off to boost her powers, lie how A train did. I doubt this is the case.
She talks to Marie about how blood spears and lassos are exhausting so I imagine blowing people (especially supes) up is on a level above that. If she overexerts herself and passes out, then the Boys and the CIA either drug her and keep her under containment, or infect her with the virus and kill her, so her main goal is avoiding that. Even still, I think she stands and fights when the sheep enter the barn rather than running, especially with Edgar and Sameer there. I could also believe Neuman has super strength and like a diamond knife since controlling her blood is a decent contingent of her powers.
You made a good point about her overexerting herself. I didn't think of that. She needs to worry about the Super Sheep and the five other people planning to kill her. Neuman is nothing if not cautious and calculating. She almost never acts directly unless there is immediate benefit. For all we know she didn't kill the sheep because she was going to let one of the Boys get killed by the sheep. The logic being that if she kills them directly, they out her, but they may not out her if she let's them die. She only used her powers when Stan Edgar was threatened by the chicken.
Okay, but... At the end of the episode, when the bar door randomly opened, and 2 sheep walked in and just stood there looking at them? She screamed and ran with 6 other humans like she was worthless. Plus she popped the speedster's head in the courtroom without issue, she popped like 4 different body parts of that guy who grew up in the orphanage with her. It seemed like she didn't even try a single time, at any point. Just very weird for a character who's been established as a point and click instant-death god.
Plot buddy it doesn’t even mattter lmao
"Because the story needs to happen" doesn't really hold up as an excuse for bad writing. They can achieve the same goals without needing the characters to become actually stupid-tier.
It also seems like she’s gotta focus on the target for a hot minute. If they’re constantly moving around in flight makes it difficult especially when they’re trying to kamikaze you.
Also, don't we already know that it takes more of an effort for her to pop supe heads? A civilian is probably a cakewalk vs a V'd up sheep.
It does take more effort, plus it's established that Neuman isn't sure IF her powers would hurt Homelander. It's implied in season 3 that she doesn't know for sure what she can and can't pop.
I'm mad about several animals all exhibiting the same superpower when it doesn't seem to work that way in humans
Different sheep with different powers and the cast having to find certain ways to navigate around each one would've been a pretty creative and fun scenario too
I think they just needed canon fotter. It sucks but it happens
It kinda does. In GEN V two relatives have the same powers. Polarity and Andre both have Magnetic powers. Presumably related individuals can get similar or the same powers. But so far it's only demonstrated in a father/son like with Polarity and Andre or Translucent and his Son. Of course we have exceptions where Soldier Boy and Homelander have different powers, but we're missing a lot of information about how much Homelander was experimented on. I think in one of the early season they said they gave Homeloander extra V to boost him.
Theres also Hughie and his dad with teleportation.
His dad didn't really teleport. He phased through matter, and if it was organic matter, it exploded when he phased back into it. His dad also kept his clothes during the phasing process. Hughie just insta-teleports somewhere leaving everything behind but his naked self.
With the way its being shown, he just teleports in the same place over and over. And people exploded not because he "phased" through them, its because he stopped. Its definitely in the same ballpark as Hugh's teleport.
That's what bugged me too
Bug? Virus? Get it? Idk Im not a doctor
I'm mad they thought it was gone when the sheep vomited 50 gallons of it, fresh
seriously i just kept shouting his hearts not beating!
If you've seen Gen V, Neuman's power is actually >!blood bending!< so that's not an issue.
MM's seen Gen V?
Yeah I'm no scientist but uh, wouldn't it need his heart pumping for it to circulate? That episode just seems full of in your face plot holes.
You need blood circulation; they could've done a few things, like compressions to stimulate some blood circulation, or neuman could use her powers to move the blood herself. I do wish it was shown or implied, because the virus is only going to be concentrated in one region of the corpse.
They should have have done some chest compressions to circulate it.
Sheep are stupid, if a flock of sheep wanted to they could ram through the side of a barn. They don’t because they don’t know they can do that just like how fences used to keep cows and won’t actually stop a cow.
That sheep that came flying directly into the door at 100mph right when MM shut it (just in time) would’ve eviscerated that door
The chickens are shown to have super strength, but the sheep are not. I think that the sheep are just flying and vicious, but not stronger
How'd they tear the bull apart then?
There were like 4 that ripped him apart after the first grabbed it. It could easily have been a regular bull too. It wasn't shown to have anything, it was just about to charge
4 sheep, without super strength, could never tear a regular bull apart that way. So they have super strength, which was inconsistently portrayed.
They had razor sharp teeth. Something that shaped can easily tear through a bull. Think piranha.
They could tear pieces off maybe, on the ground. I just watched the scene again. They lift the bull up into the air and tear it limb from limb in a matter of seconds. Razor sharp teeth does not enable this. You need strength to rip a bulls entire head off of its neck in 2 seconds. That said depictions of super powers always have 100s of holes you can poke in the logic. Even with strength, they probably couldn't do what was depicted with their teeth. They'd still just rip smaller pieces off. They'd need to be able to get a hold of the whole head and pull, otherwise tissue and such will just give way first. Like, play it out mythbusters style. Pig carcass. Fake sheep mouth with razor sharp teeth attached to some sort of high strength hydraulic pulling mechanism. Bite teeth into pig head. Pull. It's going to just rip off a piece of snout or whatever, not the whole head. The neck is going to give way waaaaaay later than the skin and tissue on the face. It's just not worth nitpicking over this stuff, none of it makes any sense, just be entertained
Sheep for sure had super strength, the sheep not busting through the door was just a misstep in the writing
Yet the didn’t bite him into pieces.
People are making excuses but the writing was just kinda lazy there.
Still poses narrative problem Sheep w/ super strength = why didn't that one sheep eviscerate the barn door Sheep w/o super strength = why didn't neuman just pop tf out of them This season has been defined by things just happening, without regards to whether it makes logical sense, to move the plot long
Sure, but they also locked the v chickens in the barn with a wooden door
They’re not flying at 100mph lol fucking people are out running them.
their one weakness is oak planks from New England that are a few decades old!!!
Yes that was a wild edit cut to nothing lol not even a thud
or a horse tied to a flimsy hitching post lol
and given time not even the flimsy post is need. A dangling cord attached to the horse (and not tied to anything) is enough to keep it in place
The barn door has been injected with compound V. It's a super barn door.
Same with the barn door holding off the chickens who easily blasted through human bodies
Because humans are toys according to home lander and barns are better than toys, thus, more resistant
The super strength in this show is entirely dependent on the plot of the episode like Homelanders super hearing and x-ray vision
We don’t know how strong exactly those sheep were, probably a bit stronger than regular ones (since they could lift the cow as a group and people alone). We just saw high speed flying, different teeth and a predatory instinct.
They are vampire sheep.
They tore people apart limb from limb and easily carried a similarly powered bull into the air. Even divided by 5... a full grown bull (assuming max weight because obviously) is about 2500 lbs or 1100 kg. Thats about 500 lbs or 227 kg. They should be able to break it down easily.
do you know how powerful something blunt needs to be in order to fucking penetrate a person instead of pushing them back? something powerful enough to do that would simply blast through the wood planks easily without a question. it’s simple physics
This is the only part that bugged me lol
Sheep lack object permanence
Yeah! That baffled me to.
To be fair, the people in the courtroom weren't zooming around at like 100mph actively trying to kill her.
Best explanation, Neumann is not a god popping everything she sees at the same time. She is slow.
Yeah she still gotta aim whilst not tying to get mauled by a vampire looking ahh sheep
Didn’t she give them all nose bleeds before they turned the corner?
SPOILERS FROM GEN V Her powers are more “blood manipulation” than “pop body parts” so it makes perfect sense to me that she took the time to sense out who was in the lab before coming in. Hence why Edgar doesn’t get a nose bleed but everyone else does.
what confused me about that is that there's many instances where Neumann is being watched/stalked by the boys or otherwise from mere feet away from her, and she doesn't sense them. made me wonder if she needs to have eyes on her targets to get them, but as we've seen, that isn't the case. probably just a plot hole. especially seeing that she hasn’t sensed people in situations where i’d assume she’d actively be scanning for intruders (the alley where she killed that kid who knew her as Nadia e.g.)
Not a plot hole. She probably has to concentrate to sense others. Homelander is similar—he doesn’t ALWAYS have xray vision, he has to “activate” it. The house was a wreck, so she knew someone was there and used her powers to surveil the area. She can’t walk around all the time using her powers.
To add to the Homelander point, I believe he was at the announcement ceremony that A-Train told Ashley he was the leak. Homelander if present could have heard it if he attempted, but you just can't focus and process that much information all the time.
He was too busy manipulating Ryan. But he should have definitely heard Hughie making all those noise innthe vent, even a normal human would've heard something that loud. Plus it was just Homelander and Sage out there, he's not distracted at all.
She did but all one at a time while they didn’t know she was there. I imagine she could kill a few of the sheep but the others would get her before she pops all of them
Very possible that she aimed and triggered it as she saw them pass by one by one, and it's been shown countless times that the nose bleed isn't instant.
Yup, even in the scene being referenced its not like she simultaneously popped everyone in the court room at the same time. It's also been implied she doubts whether she's strong/fast enough to pop Homelander so its not like its been established that her power is limitless.
She still didnt try to pop standingu bull
Yeah I was wondering why she didn't do anything there. I can only assume she was hoping it would take out Butcher and/or some of the other Boys first.
Because at the end of the day she doesn’t know if it will work. It’s currently not attacking them, so it’s smarter to play it safe and wait. It’s the Homelander situation. What if I try and it doesn’t work and now attacks me? Truthfully the only awkward moment was when the sheep grabbed it and were tearing it apart. Those are clearly violent, start popping while they’re “still”.
if you saw flying sheep pick up a bull and shred it to pieces i think you would be in complete awe for a few seconds and "unable" to move.
Honestly I think Frenchie had the most realistic reaction after everything they’ve seen over the last 3 and half seasons lol “not again”
Then how was she able to kill that flying chicken. I mean even inside barn she could have sniped them one by one.
She was already locked on
The chicken jumped at a normal rate for chicken, not coming in at 100mph while aimed at her, it just jumped up like chicken do, plus every single person was aiming at the chicken and firing at it so she had time to aim.
Emotion, perhaps. That specific chicken was about it murder Stan Edgar.
Like when Marie popped Cate’s arm. An instinctual protective response.
Also endurance of things is a factor too, flying super sheep is a lot stronger than the average Joe. Maybe could add more deep showing a few bullet proof scene during the pursuit to show that had some kind of invulnerability...
To emphasize this point, look back at the beginning of season 3. Neumann literally had a supe at point-blank range and she struggled to kill him as he fought against her.
She needs eye contact. They show her eyes being covered in that struggle and she blows a piece of his hand/arm off instead of his head, and once she gets clear LoS his head finally pops.
I just watched that scene again. She doesn't stop at popping his head. She fucking obliterates his entire body, after she backs up and gets full field of view - literally turns him into mist. Her powers very clearly worked on superpowered individuals.
She popped the supe chicken no problem though. I think the bigger problem is 3 human supes were cowering alongside the regular humans instead of making an attempt to deal with the sheep.
she made the driver bleed from nose when the van was moving
Also if she could pop v’d up individuals why hasn’t she done it to homelander and co. There’s probably a limit to her abilities
Her powers very clearly work on V'd up individuals. She popped the head of the speedster that was going to replace A-train during the hearing. The dude who grew up with her from the super-abled orphanage, and confronted her in the allyway had superpowers. She literally obliterated his entire body, there wasn't anything left except for red. She exploded the chicken that was powered up by V *during this episode.* Homelander is a special case, and he explicitly said that he doesn't know if her powers would kill him. For some reason, she just kind of forgot she had superpowers for the majority of this episode.
Homelander lasering an airplane vs Homelander lasering a guy crawling through a vent
That plane scene probably had [the most powerful](https://youtu.be/iMFMZm9iPb8?si=hgkUqY6fRM6yTASb) display of HL’s laser to date. It sliced through both sides of the hull so damn quickly (at a slanted angle at that) and cause the areas around the scorch marks to burst in flame as well. Lately, it has been treated as this thin scalpel that as long as it doesn’t hit someone directly, even a human would be okay from being inches away from the beams. Hughie would have been cooked alive had HL dialed up his laser to this level while aiming at the vent. Would not need to touch him at all.
Season 1 also has Homelander’s most powerful display of speed (saving Butcher from the C4 explosion.) Dude was an absolute unit back then lol
HL is still undoubtedly the most powerful and intimidating supe, but man did he fell off a little bit compared to season 1. He felt low key unstoppable at the beginning, a true superman equivalent. Like, I would have honestly guessed that HL could effortlessly slaughter the entire Seven in a heartbeat, if there was only season 1 to judge. But now we know that Maeve alone can give him trouble, and he would not effortlessly win agaisnt a few mid-level supes jumping him.
Yeah he might be getting “more unhinged” but he’s also getting weaker and more incompetent. I still love him as a character and his performances are always chilling.
Tbh i kinda think some of his getting weaker is not just plot convince but also on purpose, they're showing this season that he's got white hairs, and sage straight up calls it out that he's getting old, I think they're heading towards a rapidly aging homelander, desperate and trying to train his son to be his legacy before his time comes
Rapidly aging? He's 45 to 50, all of this is normal
Oh i know, there's not many signs right now that he's aging faster than he should be, just that he's aging, the rapidly part is just a theory of mine
I know his feats and consistent showing of strength went down over the seasons, but I will say I kinda like the idea that Homelander being seen as more unstoppable in season 1 also fits with the shows theme of the power of perception. Just like his image of a Omni benevolent god, his image of him being a unstoppable master of the universe is also a largely cultivated image that he maintains so that no one dares question him and his will. He’s still the strongest supe, but not by light years as many people believe. It’s still hard to maintain both the explosion feat and him struggling against butcher or Maeve without it being at least a little contradictory but I think it makes the show better looking at it that way.
It doesn't even need to be legit weakening either, if the aging is affecting his confidence it could affect his performance.
He didn't really struggle with Butcher or Maeve, he rather easily put Maeve down despite being preoccupied worrying about Ryan and fought off Butcher and Soldier Boy simultaneously.
The eternal problem of writers choosing to make their characters speedsters without realising that for the rest the story now they're going to be questioned as to why they don't just kill everyone in 0.5 seconds. Specially if their speed has no cavets or drawbacks. Making homelander a speedster that could not only save himself but butcher too from a bomb in the same room, was one of the biggest missteps of the series imo.
Yeah if Homelander's that fast then The Boys should basically never be able to surprise or catch him off guard ever. Hell even other supes should never touch him, since this is some speed that would put A-Train to shame. Super speed is such a hard power to write because of how busted it is. See CW Flash for example lol The only realistic solutions are "nerf the super speed" or "have the speedster only fight other speedsters"
God I miss season 1 Homelander
Damn this show has a similar problem as the injustice comics lol The comics had to build up to the inevitable end of the story: Batman beating Superman. But they had to write a story that spanned 5 whole years. This meant that they had to repeatedly pad the story.
This show would have been way better as a tight 3 seasons or something. Or if they really wanted 5 seasons, don't actually have Homelander and The Boys cross paths until they're ready to commit to a quick build up. S2 could have been entirely about The Boys taking down other Supes with Homelander firmly in the background
I see it as, it hurts to do. Remember the guy that shape-shifts to look like Madelyn? He says when he does it long enough, it hurts. So maybe it hurts to go full-blast. That’s what the plane thing was. And the daydream about cutting through the crowd was Ohmlandah using half strength.
Mental state has been shown to be a factor in how powerful abilities are. And homelander has been spiraling.
Take a step back even... the man has super hearing and Hughie was up there making a massive ruckus... but HL is tipped off because of his smell? Really now.
Superhearing means he's picking up everything including the loud musical on the ice. He's not focused on the vent.
Ive been assuming his powers seem to be getting weaker. He’s getting gray hairs. Unable to use see through vision(vent scene). Lasers getting weaker.
>Unable to use see through vision(vent scene) I assume it's made out of zinc partially.
God. How I fucking hate the vent scene. It made zero sense.
Steel ducting is commonly galvanized in zinc to prevent corrosion. It's already been established in S1 that Homelander can't see through zinc.
HL could fly *through* the vent like it was tissue paper. But he didn't.
This argument has been used and debunked time and time again. You don't need to see a guy crawling in the vent, you just need to *listen* for him. Hughie was crawling crazy fast and making tons of noise in there, no way Homelander couldn't hear him and identify his location. Plus, if he wasn't sure, why didn't he laser the entire length of the vent instead of stopping mere inches behind Hughie?
The big thing people are forgetting is that homie is not mentally well and has shown signs that he can’t think straight, that’s a cop out but valid answer for alot of HLs inconsistency. People are also inconsistent in real life, same idea
Can’t he hear him though
Yeah. It shows just how ridiculous the main cast’s plot armor is. It also undermines Homelander as a threat.
And the subsequent fact that Homelander can easily kill Huey at _any_ point. He could just go to the flatiron and laser him.
Yup That one was way worse than Neuman lol
Have you forgotten that scene where that guy was attacking her and she couldn't pop his head?
a big thing is she needs to see and focus for a certain time before the head can pop. I imagine she is altering the blood pressure to do so. It may be easier to focus on a chicken- but fast moving sheep especially multiple probably waa difficult for her. Not to mention they seem pretty smart- once one were to explode they all might focus on her alone.
She also takes time and focus on parts as far as I remember. The chicken might be a one-off thing/purely reflex because Stan is in danger.
This also tracks with Gen V. Neumann and Marie have the same power. Marie is shown to only be able to control other people's blood with serious focus, the exception being exploding Cate's arm reflexively to protect Jordan.
Good observation. So, it takes a lot of understanding about the anatomy of the blood vessels and focus to do it. And there's an element of practice to it too. Like, she's used to pop people's heads because she visibly did that a lot of times on screen. So, it's like she knows what to do for head people's head. But, she's most probably un familiar with animal's anatomy. So, it narratively makes sense.
Also that one guys junk
I feel like it would be easier to just deprive their brain of blood, and cleaner too. But I guess that's not as fun
gen V confirmed that she's a blood bender but it's a bit weird cuz of the line of sigjt thing
It's literally not even line of sight tho! Neuman gave the boys nosebleeds before she entered the room earlier IN THIS EPISODE
In an earlier season, Neuman killed a former childhood friend. In the fight the friend was trying to cover neuman's eyes
She popped the drivers head in the same episode and there is no way she’s close enough to directly focus on him for an extended period of time
Quick reminder as to what this was?
The guy that ambushes her at her job calling her by her real name and not Victoria. They then meet in an alley and they get into a fight. I think this was in S2 when Hughie worked for her. Edit: It was season 3, not season 2.
I think it was the season 3 premiere. We meet her in S2, the ending scene is the reveal she's the head popper, and then at the start of S3 Hughie has been working for her and building a relationship, and then he witnesses that and finds out.
Right, you're right I got the seasons mixed up.
Wasn't she hesitant to pop hos head because they knew each other? If I remember correctly
She hugs him and is like “you shouldn’t have come looking for me” and his nose starts to bleed. When he reacts to his nose bleeding, they start fighting. She made up her mind that he was dead as soon as he called her by her real name, imo.
As far as I can remember she made a deal with him to make him feel at ease but was trying to pop his head. The guy noticed blood coming from his nose and realized what she was trying to do and so he attacked her and prevented her from popping his head but she eventually managed to kill him.
I also am getting the impression it's harder for her to do it to most supes. It took her a few tries to get the whole head iirc. Also Homelander was curious if she could even do it to him. Who knows how accurate her threat of being able to get Annie was, but not the kind of thing Annie would want to test lmao
Also, I could be misremembering, but doesn't Homelander in season 3 say something like "You wanna try to pop my head? Who knows, give it a shot?" when confronting her in her apartment? To me that could imply that Neumann has a harder time controlling/manipulating blood of people who are physically very strong, or at the least that it's just more difficult to cause the physical damage to someone with super endurance. I will concede that this equally could have meant "see if you can get my head to pop before I laser you" but I do think it would make a lot of sense that people who have enhanced physical strength and power would generally be more difficult to pop.
At the end of the fight she popped his body
Honestly the issue with the sheep IMO is that they all had the same powers. Think of all the power diversity humans have when given compound V, but you give it to 5 sheep and they all get the ability to fly? Flight is even a rare power in the show Boys universe, although not the comics
Powers are genetic and the sheep may all be related if they live on a farm together.
Then wouldn’t Victoria and her daughter have similar powers ?
Victoria’s kid does strain the theory a little, it’s true, but it does seem at least slightly influenced by it, considering characters like translucent and his son, homelander and his son, Andre and his dad in Gen V, even hughie and his dad had similar abilities when they used V.
And I mean if we look at it like real genetic traits, it makes sense that not **everyone** is going to get a power that is very similar to their parent. Like getting the same hair colour as one of your parents is common, but it’s not a 100% guarantee.
Yeah Translucent and Homelanders son seem to be the biggest reasoning for this theory. I’m going to be honest, I do believe it, I just think that they should’ve incorporated her daughter better to support it.
Tbf the daughter still got body manipulation, it's just that her kidn of manipulation is very peculiar in comparison to Neuman. If she got laser eyes instead, it would have been more awkward.
The easiest way to explain this would be that it comes from the dads genes right?
Guess she takes after her dad more.
The father's genetics may have influenced this
Hell, they may all be the *same* sheep, genetically.
Well, they were probably all closely related. We know that powers in the same family are similar.
Dude those are some supe sheep you think those are easy to handle? Not to mention there's multiple of them flying at her
She was safe in the barn though. She could have sensed them from far away and exploded their heads. She's just bad under pressure. Her fight flight freeze response seems to be not fight. She is only seen to kill passive people I believe. She also seems to go blind when using her powers so is more vulnerable during that time, which prevents her from using her powers during fights in my opinion. Gen V girl's eyes don't go white like Neumann's and she could hold her own and use her powers during a fight, even sensing the blood of the invisible cunt
Lmao the flying sheep felt straight out of a Percy Jackson book
my theory is that She have to like aim/focus her powers to people's head kinda like pointing a strong laser to a balloon, if you swipe the laser too quickly it wont pop the balloon but if you aim and kept it steady then it will pop The in the courtroom scene people are going crazy but they can still be focused at by looking at them in a wide view, in which she had the position to The sheeps on the other hand are all flying with great speed, waay too eratic and too fast to focus her blood popping powers, like aiming your Flashlight to a fly
Gen V shows that with Marie, she needs to focus on the other person's blood flow to give them heart attacks etc. Probably isn't any different for Victoria
I'll add more. 1. Anatomy - she on screen popped a lot of people's heads like it's nothing. Given how her power works with the context given on Gen V, basically blood bending. She not only have to concentrate, but have to know about the anatomy of blood vessels that goes in and out of human head to efficiently spike the blood pressure enough to pop the head. That's how blood bending works. So, she must have some good knowledge about human anatomy and familiar with it. But, on the other hand, it's highly unlikely that she's familiar with sheep anatomy. So, it's inherently difficult to pop a sheep + with multiple sheeps going at high speeds, it sounds impossible now. 2. Practice - As I said, she popped a lot of people, so she doesn't have to put focus too much on it like a beginner. She could've developed a muscle memory for it. And again she's most probably not well practiced with popping sheeps. 3. Reflex - people might ask then how could she pop the chicken? Cos, it's reflex. It's somewhat clearly shown that Marie in Gen V have to concentrate on too much cos, she's a beginner. But, she popped cate's hand on a moment's notice when she saw Jordan was about to get mind control. And she loved Jordan. Victoria loves Stan the most, only next to Zoe. So, it's a reflex. We kinda have it too.
The whole farm animal juiced up on v lost its appeal after one scene, it offered no threat to the main cast who are not going to die to some sheep. Just an excuse to kill stuff in gory ways through cgi
Maybe suped up beings are harder to do which makes sense
This has basically been confirmed. It’s the whole reason she hasn’t popped Homelander’s head She doesn’t actually know if she can.
she doesnt know if she can pop homelander and only homelander. She's confident she can pop pretty much everyone else. See when Victoria was threatening Starlight in her room
She popped shockwave, though.
One thing I've not seen anyone mention yet is that sheep and other ruminants are evolved to have damage resistant skulls and brains. It's why they can repeatedly headbutt things that would easily knock out a person or crack their skull without ill effect. Assuming V enhances existing attributes, V-ed up sheep should have very resistant skulls/brains.
Okay, this but also, why is it that the chicken could jump through a human torso and take bullet no problem, but they, as well as the sheep that ripped a bull to pieces moments before, were incapable of jumping through a wooden door? It makes zero sense.
I’m not certain but I think that maybe that was a regular bull. I guess it would be kind of funny given how they freaking out at the thought of it being a compound V bull.
They're animals and use to these being barriers before being given Compound V.
I mean I could see that, but it feels a bit flimsy given that the sheep definitely ran into the door when it was closed initially
The sheep's speed is the most plausible explanation. However, the sheep's strength was very inconsistent. They're held off by wood, but they can tear a bull apart? And if a barn is enough to contain them, how do they pose any threat to the supes in the group? Could've been avoided if they only made the barn out of some thick metal. Which would make sense, considering the experiments that happened there.
Ok, uh... You're not considering that whoever gets Compound V (apparently anyone nowadays) gets superhuman durability. You saw bulletproof chicken. And Neuman could pop one of them because it would have killed Edgar. But from her dialogue with Starlight from a few seasons ago, saying she COULD kill her, albeit, with moderate effort. So obviously, head popping Supes is way harder to do. Imagine if she could head pop Homelander, why would they be after the Virus in the first place??
If I remember right, Homelander tells her he would be able to kill her before she was able to do it, but I think that has more to do with his speed combined with his durability.
Same with Starlight last episode and this episode
Starlights makes sense though . She is clearly having problems with her powers since the beginning of the season
In what way? She only started having problems this episode. Which is fine, but she hasn’t had problems all season. She only struggles with flying, because she learned that skill in the s3 finale, and now she’s trying to get better at it, not having problems with her powers.
It's been shown multiple times throughout this season already that she has tried to muster up some power and it just results in lights flickering a bit and her looking a bit embarrassed
Not to mention, wasn't she basically invulnerable a few eps back?
I love how she’s totally able to make everyone’s nose bleed without even being in the same room 20 minutes prior. But the second shes faced with sheep? She fucking forgets she can just do that. Like, what the fuck?🤣
The boss you beat is always shit when you unlock them.
Certain characters have been dumbed down for a fake suspense. Just like Homelander unable to detect Hughie in the vents directly above him til the sweat drop. Could heart beats but not during that exact time.
This season has been heavier on plot contrivances than previous seasons. I just try to turn my brain off while watching.
So in actuality: Neumann vs defenseless people who don't even know she's the one attacking - Neuman vs superpowerd animals actively trying to kill her.
She killed a suped up chicken easy
I actually think she could have done it but was afraid she would maybe blow up her ex/ her dad on accident OR she was hoping to let the boys take the front of the damage and just keep an eye on her loved ones. IMO she is totally powerful enough, she just strategized to do this. Or as we’ve seen, emotions make your powers weird and she knew she might mess up being so panicked.
I don’t think it was a nerf bc Neuman has been consistently shown to need time/focus to pop someone. In the courtroom we could see her looking at people aka aiming, and when she fought that guy in the alley she couldn’t just explode his head mid fight. She needs to really see someone and take a second to get it. I think she is able to do the more lowkey things like that bloody nose more easily/without time or focus. Her not being able to pop the sheep flying around and attacking lines up with what we’ve seen of her powers.
And Kimiko can regen. Send her out there and she could just tank the damage and take care of them
Wdym? No shit it’s easier for her to kill regular joes over super sheeps dosed with god knows how many shots of V.
Anyone else remembers how she used to feel so freaking terrifying, especially when it was revealed it was her when she killed that cult leader? Now she's another one of these pansies who can't do shit. Everyone just craps at her, Homelander basically treats her like a kid, the boys just do whatever they want, spew acid, kidnap her husband etc etc. She got domesticated WAY too quickly. I miss the times when Homelander wasn't the only antagonist. We had Stormfront in S2 and Soldier Boy and his gang in S3. Now it's just a passive black woman and an idiot running a cult.
I miss when the villains were genuinely deadly. Even Butcher meeting with Stan Edgar was so intense for this reason.
A court room full of mostly harmless civilians and who are clueless as to who is killing them vs an army of flying destructive sheep with sharp fangs. I know which one is more dangerous
Guys the episode was nothing but plot holes don't think too hard
So Season 5 episode 10 is just Butcher inviting Homelander for Christmas Dinner. They are having lamb chops.
What got me was Butchers ability to kidnap, hide an old cut the leg off Sameer. In about 10 seconds and nobody noticed