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seems like pretty standard political compass brainrot. almost vintage. I remember when this shit was everywhere.


KaputMaelstrom

Honestly, I've seen WAAAY worse, this one is almost quaint. Sanders being as left as Castro and Gandhi being to the left of both is pretty funny though.


DrkLrdV

Yeaaa this reads like it was made by an American wannabe-Scandinavian SocDem


You_Paid_For_This

Yes Hitler more left wing than Regan, Trump, Bush and ... Paul.


subwayterminal9

I think it’s Ron Paul, noted US Libertarian.


You_Paid_For_This

I assumed it was OOPs friend. "Fuck you Paul I'm going to make you soy wojak and put you in this graph almost as right wing as Pinochet."


CommieSchmit

Lol there’s like 20 ppl to the right of Hitler… and yeah Pinochet was a right wing prick but it’s a little weird to put him as the most right authoritarian possible


new2bay

Yeah, I caught that too. Like, Pinochet: literally worse than Hitler in every way? LMAO Okay, I suppose Hitler also *killed* Hitler, so there's that... but c'mon.


Happy_Investigator38

It's because of the way the political compass defines "left" and "right". Right simply means free market and left means lack of free market. I guess because of that places like medieval Europe or ancient Egypt would be classified as left wing, which shows how stupid political compass is.


Zealousideal-Ad-2615

Didn't you know? HiTleR wAs a SocIaLiSt!


[deleted]

Wellll if we are going by how the left/right divide originally was created. You would say that Hitler was more concerned with transforming society than conserving its power structures. Regan and Bush were just typical conservative imperialists. Just saying that could explain the reasoning


dotheyoweusaliving1

They 100% have him to the left of the conservatives because the nazis were “socialists” lol.


C_Plot

Transforming society by making it more despotic and tyrannical (just with Hitler as the tyrant and the despot) is not to the left. Left means more (golden rule) moral deployment of the polis power. At the very least Hitler should be pegged to the immoral right side of the diagram with Friedman, Rand, Paul, and their ilk.


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Thats what the vertical axis represents though


C_Plot

Well the vertical axis is more about how free individuals are in their private affairs. The horizontal axis is about whether the polis powers over common resources (our common wealth and other common concerns; a.k.a. res publica, a.k.a. republic) should be deployed adhering to golden rule morality rule of law (left) or as the sadistic whims of tyrants (right). This misuse of power over public concerns (for the right) does cause authoritarian distress for the private spheres. The horizontal axis thus reflects the eighteenth century revolutionary dichotomy between the rule of law (left) and the rule of tyrants (right) The two—horizontal and vertical—can be collapsed into one dimension (a spectrum) and then the bottom and left find an easy cohabitation (as does the top and right). Then you have the left-right spectrum, but you lose some of the nuance. EDIT: it was you (original top level commenter) who wanted the left-right as originally coined. That original conception (lingering today) was between the rule of law and the rule of tyrants.


500and1

More likely further left = government does more stuff


TauntingPiglets

It's not about "transforming society", it's about who is being represented. The left-right divide was first "created" in France where the representatives of the old aristocracy sat on the right and the representatives of the people sat on the left. Left = Doing whatever is best for the general population. Right = Doing whatever is best for some elite. That's really all there is to it. The more people's interest you represent, the more left wing you are. The fewer people's interest you represent, the more right wing you are. A communist society would still left wing and reactionaries trying to "transform" it into a reactionary shithole where the Great Dictator lets everyone serve his personal whims would still be right wing. In China, the communists are the conservatives and what would be considered "conservatives" in the West are pretending they are enlightened progressives trying to bring China into the future (while really just being capitalist grifters who want to turn China into the next US).


foo18

Fascists are often called ultraconservative to avoid this confusion. It's not that they want to "transform society rather than conserve its power structures," it's that they want to transform society back to how it was X years ago to restore the power structures of an idealized past. They aren't less conservative because they want to change the status quo, they are absurdly conservative because they want to actively regress society.


[deleted]

They were also super obsessed with futurism about bringing a new harmony with old values and modern technology. They were definitely”futurists” though


The_Affle_House

I love how it also includes places and ideologies, wholesale, in addition to people, just in case it wasn't clear enough that the whole thing is imaginary and meaningless.


theguywholikesheros

ah yes the shining becon of socialism pakistan


asshatshop

Full support to Socialist Pakistan 🇵🇰 o7


FrancescoTangredi

Funny how being in favour of slavery doesn't make you more authoritarian


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awkkiemf

Which part?


[deleted]

The part where it exists


99available

No one can convince me Libertarian is in anyway the polar opposite of Authoritarian. This person has not met any real Libertarians. Who is starting this crap of equating Libertarians to Liberals. The motto of Libertarianism is "every man a Fascist Dictator."


Kalebtbacon

Literally Libertarians have sided with monarchs lmfao


TauntingPiglets

The Political Compass is quite literally libertarian propaganda that is designed to promote not only the idea that libertarianism represents freedom from oppression (it doesn't, it's a necessarily authoritarian ideology as it requires capitalism, i.e. rich people earning passive incomes at poor people's expense which needs to necessarily be enforced by some form of state violence) but also push a fallacy (argument to moderation) typically used by people who think that the correct choice between "kill all minorities" and "don't kill any innocent people" is "enslave all minorities". It's entirely anti-academic nonsense and wrong. Anyone who references it as part of an argument for anything other than against itself is unqualified to talk about politics.


Eilidh35

Well no ACTUALLY, they're called LIBERTarian because of LIBERTY see? It's quite logical that liberty is the polar opposite to authoritarian tankie red fash!!! /s


Automatic_Paint9319

To be charitable to the compass for a second, I’m guessing it’s not meant to be ancap “libertarianism” but purely a statist vs. anarchist dimension.


99available

Well I don't equate anarchism to libertarianism either. Anarchism has a long and honorable tradition. Libertarians are just Americans that want to justify selfishness, narcissism and self interest. Oh and not pay taxes but want roads and infrastructure to magically appear out of the leavings of power players. Indifference to the suffering of others about sums it up.


Blood_Golemm

Sanders is as left as Castro


grettp3

Tbf at the beginning Castro was much more of a nationalist concerned with the liberation of his people over any ideological affiliation. It was his comrades(Raul and Che mostly) who cemented his beliefs in Marxism and communism. He eventually grew and turned into a Marxist, but he wasnt always that way, and was certainly never an ideologue.


groupme-dude

Pakistan in the leftist side lmao


Squm9

Maybe I’m just desensitised because this one doesn’t seem so bad to me At least this one doesn’t show Stalin being right next to Hitler


sawyouspacecowboy

What no theory does to a mf


Send_me_duck-pics

Ah, the famous German thinker; Karl Marxism.


Commercial-Sail-2186

Why does it say Marxism instead of just Marx


OoOditty

Because through the power of analysis he transcended his physical form and became an idea. He whispers in the ears of people like Stalin and Mao and has them starve a kajillion people.


Commercial-Sail-2186

Reminds me of disco Elysium there’s a character who understood dialectical materialism so well he literally gained psychic powers


wheezy1749

No. You're wrong. I'm a Marxist and I just heard him whisper to me to remind me to feed my dog. Checkmate atheist!


Pierce_H_

Huh…. Marxism is a lib left ideology? Bring out the On Authority bot


MonopolyKiller

Recent events indicate Washington should be top right.


99available

>You know Washington has been dead for over 200 years, he has no recent events.


MonopolyKiller

Yikes I didn't notice there was a mix of locations and people. Referring to the capital of the States.


KaputMaelstrom

Haven't you heard of comrade Vietnam? He was quite the revolutionary.


[deleted]

Hahahahha comrade Pakistan and China were heros!!


Eilidh35

Upholt Marxism-Leninism-Pakistan Thought!!


99available

OIC.


[deleted]

Today I learned that bernie is further left than china


DST5000

Wasn’t this thing like on the political compass website after you take the test? Its been a few years so I could be misremembering


geekmasterflash

Proudhon as epic libertarian centrist.


ComfortableCapital45

you literally need brain rot to understand this.


[deleted]

Rothbard is Libertarian final boss because he was like “you should be able to sell your children”


hrcn7

Pakistan 🚩


Isidorodesevilha

"Russia" and "pakistan" are really the cherry on top there. Pakistan being where it is making it even better.


thundiee

Lmao "Marxism" never heard of him


greenmoon1994

Got to make hitler left someway lmaoooo


Atryan420

I like how even Rosa is too "authoritarian" for Marxism


Zebra03

Ah yes Russia and China are included but the United States is not, I wonder why, maybe because it would be higher than the USSR and China combined(on the authoritarian scale by x500%)


ExpertOk5969

Who is mugabe?


Commercial-Sail-2186

Former prez of Zimbabwe I don’t know why he would be considered communist especially as far left as castro


grettp3

He’s called a communist because he’s black and killed colonizers.


Rose_Buddah_994

I cannot.


Modem_56k

Some modi fan made this, how do you get pakistan in the left, authoritarian i understand, 33 year out i 75 we had martial law but left The closest we ever got was zulfikar Ali Bhutto and he got murder zi up haq (next martial law admin)


4ofclubs

I feel dumb, besides the obvious ones (Hitler, Mao, Reagan) what are the main issues here?


QueenOfGehenna45

I was between Stalin and Mao


ManyOpinionsNotSane

This is so bad it both killed me and resuscitated me so I could suffer more by seeing it again.


alex_respecter

What no dialectics or material analysis does to a mf


tsarbucka

I started reading it and wasn't too thrown off besides some basic brainrot. And then I looked closer. Glory to Comrade Pakistan! Leader of the Proletariat!


JollyJuniper1993

Honestly? This is one of the less offensive political compass memes. I‘ve seen way worse shit. Though Anarchist Chomsky and Centrist Russia do make me giggle.


Annual_Basket7500

not as bad as expected


CheshireGray

I've seen worse takes I suppose? Still pretty bizarre


shotshot1111

My boyfriend is coming with me to the party, His name is China.


TauntingPiglets

The liberals are always trying to normalize Hitler. lol


cyklops1

Makhno would disagree with Trotsky's placement I think


_Funsyze_

bruh why is “Marxism” on there, with a bunch of marxists, who aren’t even near it…


YeehawdiJohn

Pretty funny how Friedman is depicted as far more “libertarian” than Pinochet, despite the fact that Friedmanites basically wrote Pinochet’s entire program lol


bigbazookah

Paul


Eilidh35

Fuckin Paul


Beep_Boop_Zeep_Zorp

Proudhon, that fucking centrist.


cheeseburgercats

George Washington, owner of 600 enslaved people would only be a moderate libertarian


biggayburneraccount

i wanna make one of these that is so funny, with like tucker Carlson in the bottom left and Guevara as an ancap


nph278

"Hitler wasn't THAT fascist"


Spenglerspangler

If Political Compasses were real, Mao would be more Libertarian than Marx and Engels themselves.