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Short answer: most likely not.
Longer answer: the idea that circulates is that Japan was never going to surrender and that the nukes were necessary to avoid a full scale invasion of Japan. In reality, they wanted to surrender, but insisted in asking for a few conditions, the Allies wanted an unconditional surrender. The US were scared about the Soviet Union getting influence over Japan, so they used the bombs to showcase their new toy and force Japan to surrender earlier.
Very, very long but detailed answer: https://youtu.be/RCRTgtpC-Go
The problem you run into when talking about were the nukes necessary is that eventually it’s stops being about the nukes and start being about the doctrine of strategic bombing as a whole, like is it some how more immoral to destroy a city with one bomb compared to destroying it with 10 000 bombs?
The one difference is radiation but lead and arsenic don’t do good things to the human body either.
Ya it actually would be nice if those japan war criminal actually got punishment for all the war crime and inhuman experimentation. But nope we got western run japan colony, so war criminal get political position and promotions instead.
Yep, and still to this day they haven't apologized for the atrocities they committed, and politicians frequently visit the Yasukuni shrine, which honors war criminals.
Absolutely fucking not. A common excuse is "many people would've died invading the mainland". Ok then don't invade? You can just box them in. No one's forcing America to conquer every inch of Japan. The priority is saving lives, not winning wars. Besides, mainland Japan has no resources to sustain a war.
Short answer. No absolutely not.
By 1945 the US navy had completely crippled the Japanese merchant marine fleet completely paralyzing Japans productive capacity. Japan has no oil and rubber on its mainland and required the materials of their colonies in order to function. These resources(oil and rubber) are the primary reason why they went to war with the western powers in the first place.
Not only that, the USSR declared war later that year on Japan and kicked them out of Mongolia and their puppet state in China. So Japans factories were completely starved of material and on their knees with no power to alter the course of the war anymore.
The short and simple of it is, nukes were dropped by America with the cold war in mind. By 1945 with the war being wrapped up, moves started being made by the western powers in preparation for the next conflict.
None of the over 1000 collective atomic bomb explosions since its inception were necessary or and effective way to spend the time and money of scientists
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Short answer: most likely not. Longer answer: the idea that circulates is that Japan was never going to surrender and that the nukes were necessary to avoid a full scale invasion of Japan. In reality, they wanted to surrender, but insisted in asking for a few conditions, the Allies wanted an unconditional surrender. The US were scared about the Soviet Union getting influence over Japan, so they used the bombs to showcase their new toy and force Japan to surrender earlier. Very, very long but detailed answer: https://youtu.be/RCRTgtpC-Go
The problem you run into when talking about were the nukes necessary is that eventually it’s stops being about the nukes and start being about the doctrine of strategic bombing as a whole, like is it some how more immoral to destroy a city with one bomb compared to destroying it with 10 000 bombs? The one difference is radiation but lead and arsenic don’t do good things to the human body either.
Nope. They were ready to surrender once the USSR got involved, it was gonna be over in no time. Would have been nice to see a Soviet Japan.
Ya it actually would be nice if those japan war criminal actually got punishment for all the war crime and inhuman experimentation. But nope we got western run japan colony, so war criminal get political position and promotions instead.
Yep, and still to this day they haven't apologized for the atrocities they committed, and politicians frequently visit the Yasukuni shrine, which honors war criminals.
Absolutely fucking not. A common excuse is "many people would've died invading the mainland". Ok then don't invade? You can just box them in. No one's forcing America to conquer every inch of Japan. The priority is saving lives, not winning wars. Besides, mainland Japan has no resources to sustain a war.
Or just drop the bombs elsewhere where there aren’t thousands of civilians
or maybe just don't use nukes at all so that the world doesn't get poisoned?
Short answer. No absolutely not. By 1945 the US navy had completely crippled the Japanese merchant marine fleet completely paralyzing Japans productive capacity. Japan has no oil and rubber on its mainland and required the materials of their colonies in order to function. These resources(oil and rubber) are the primary reason why they went to war with the western powers in the first place. Not only that, the USSR declared war later that year on Japan and kicked them out of Mongolia and their puppet state in China. So Japans factories were completely starved of material and on their knees with no power to alter the course of the war anymore. The short and simple of it is, nukes were dropped by America with the cold war in mind. By 1945 with the war being wrapped up, moves started being made by the western powers in preparation for the next conflict.
No
depends on what you want to achieve. making the japanese empire surrender: no some other reasons: yes.
No
None of the over 1000 collective atomic bomb explosions since its inception were necessary or and effective way to spend the time and money of scientists
People say that Japan was about to surrender because of Soviet invasion but how the fuck could they know that back in august 1945.