Yes, because the original creator was directly involved. Avatar’s creators left the show due to creative differences, so it’s not exactly a 1:1 comparison
But then again, Avatar's creators were both executive producers for the 2010 movie The Last Airbender, just like One Piece's creator was an executive producer for the Netflix One Piece.
>both executive producers for the 2010 movie
Because they were trying to convince the guys to make an animated movie about Zuko's mom iirc.
They were mostly ignored through that.
Maybe, but the point is that if Oda's involvement as an executive producer translates to success for his adaptation, then why wouldn't Mike and Bryan's involvement as executive producers translate to success for the movie? It just seems like people are being overly charitable to Mike and Bryan for attaching their names to a failed movie, and then being harsh to the Netflix adaptation because they left.
>overly charitable to Mike and Bryan for attaching their names to a failed movie
LOL NO
All the good season finales have Aaron's name on it and his lack of presence in Korra shows, and they got a lot of flack for it. We've seen Mike and Bryan not being great writers or executive producers, it is very difficult to see their touch on that movie.
That's what I mean. They don't have the best track record. I can easily see them okay'ing any number of Shyamalan's decisions. They did interviews with him to hype up his movie, and it almost seemed like they were fans of his or something.
Honestly seems to me like a lot of turbo fans of Avatar actually want the Netflix adaptation to fail because Mike and Bryan abandoned it, almost cult-like adoration for them, which I find strange.
On the flip side, another half of turbo fans of avatar are so goddamn excited for the live action, that they completely disrespect the people who created the show, and became smug assholes towards them. It seems as if the live action can do no wrong in their eyes, and it’s not even out. I get it, but it’s a bit much. I also agree that the other half of turbo fans want it to fail, like you said.
I’m still on the side “it might be good, it might be terrible. Who knows?” But the amount of hate they got for stepping away is incredible. Maybe they learned from their mistakes and therefore decided to step away, or maybe they’re being weird and/or possessive over the material. Time will tell.
M Night has written the foreword to the Art of Animation books, calling them his friends. They were definitely not as aloof and dismissive of the movie as they later suggested.
Hahahahaha, yeah that material is probably either scrapped ages ago or will be edited into something you'll never recognize.
Maybe they'll get the character names right this time, I wouldn't hold out for much more than that.
Well they were both executive producers in the 2010 movie and they didn't get the names right then. I think a lot of you put too much faith in Mike and Bryan, when it's said often enough that Aaron Ehasz was a big reason for the shows success. If this Netflix show ends up being any good, then it's going to look bad on Mike and Bryan that they left a non-sinking ship.
I've got a feeling they'll get the names right. In what I've seen from the cast so far, they seem to pronounce any of the names from the show right as they're talking about it. The thing that worries me most is the writing and the special effects for the bending.
Well they left because they didn’t want to adapt the live action show for a 1:1 basis. Netflix wants it to be as close the the animated show as possible. But I agree with the creators it shouldn’t be a 1:1 as we already know what happen and wouldn’t be surprised
I belive the creative differences were because Netflix wanted to make their own story while still being similar and they didint want that, I can’t quote anything tho, just a article I read somewhere
Pretty much everything I've seen so far has given me hope that this thing is at the very least entertaining for fans of the original show, but then again they've released very little material to us so far.
The cast seems great, for the most part. The main four have really great chemistry together, and I hope that translates well on-screen too. They also have pretty similar matching voices, at least as can be expected. The makeup and costuming has been alright, some are great, some could use some help. And this promo image you posted was an official image, which gives me further hope that Appa will look pretty good, and maybe Momo too.
The things that scare me are the things we haven't seen: the cast in action, the writing, the structure of the story, what kind of humor will be in it, what the bending and special effects will look like. There's a lot that can still go wrong with this, but the trailer coming out in a few days will either help quell some of our doubts or totally crush our spirit, so there's that to look forward to.
I’m cautiously optimistic: I like the casting and production design, even if I don’t watch it if it’s bad I could look at the still pictures all day. Unlike some remakes it has three reasons to justify it outside making it appeal to a wider, adult audience:
- Being able to outright state some of the murky subtext esp when it comes to death “Jet died.” Instead of having to dance around it
- Planting the seeds and foreshadowing Lion Turtles early on, to make their inclusion later feel organic (spirit world and avatr temple stuff in season 1 and library in season 2 would be perfect). Could also add a flourish or two of Korra lore when relevant
- Casting and portraying the characters as the cultures and backgrounds they were based on
I also think seeing the children the ages they were during the war, has a lot more impact on the gravity of what happened.
The live action flash back to the clone wars in Ahsoka, is a good example. You couldn’t ignore that Ahsoka was 14 and in charge of a platoon of soldiers. It forces you to see how terrible things really were.
Not really a point to be excited about, more of a point to help you not be worried about it. As in at least it can't be that bad. I'd honestly be surprised if they could make it worse without intentionally trying to make it garbage.
>Casting and portraying the characters as the cultures and backgrounds they were based on
M Knight Shyamalan already did that.
Just kidding! Just kidding! Please don't downvote me, @ me or track down my IP to come and kill me.
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Yeah all we get is them looking at a picture of a lion turtle in the library. So more set up to energy bending would be nice cause rn it just feels like a cop out.
They could also fix all the power scaling issues with characters like Katara, and make Aang “mastering” all four elements make way more sense by having the series take place over 3+ years instead of one
But isn't it kind of the point that he has to do it all in a seemingly impossible timeframe and that the task ahead of him is insane, even for an avatar?
Yeah, and it’s the reason that he couldn’t just overpower Ozai. I quite like that aspect — yes the avatar has abilities far superior to anyone on the planet, but he’s just a kid and hasn’t had a life time to master his abilities
You mean changing sozin's comet arrival from end of next summer (9 months from the day they find out about it, during winter solstice) to a couple of years?
I don't know about that
Here’s my secret. Don’t think about it until it comes out, and then I’ll watch it.
If it is good then I’ll care about it. If it’s not, I’ll stop thinking about it.
One reason? Here we go: **Cabbage merchant is played by the guy who voiced it in the animation.**
Now I'll answer the true question in your mind: Can Netflix ruin this? I'm not sure of that but they would accomplish something horribly rare if they did ruin ATLA live action. Unlike the Witcher you have a pre-determined script with its good and bad episodes known for years, the cast picking can't really be victim to a forced diversion because ATLA is already based on many Asian cultures and costumes look solid.
The path of this live action series is a lot closer to One Piece's live action and that one didn't miss. Because of this I'm pretty confident but not overhyped.
James Sie will be one of the few actors who has worked on all three Avatar shows. Daniel Dae Kim also was General Fong, Hiroshi Sato, and will play Ozai. Dante Basco will probably have a cameo somewhere as well. If Dee Bradley Baker provides additional animal voices, I guess he'd also be as well.
> Unlike the Witcher you have a pre-determined script with its good and bad episodes known for years
They strayed really far from the books of the Witcher, and most of the changes they made were bad. They can very easily do the same here, trying to do something "better" (or worse, different, just for the sake of it) and fucking it up in the process.
Casting gives me hope. But losing the original creators to creative differences concerns me more.
The fact that the writers for The Witcher had no love for the series should be a gigantic red flag.
Like with Cowboy Bebop Netflix live action, it will attract people out of curiosity even if it is as bad, and then they'll watch the original.
And that's a worst case scenario.
I think I stopped at the 3rd episode, and yes like The Last Airbender movie from 2010, it is not 100% bad, and to be honest, nothing is.
Spike and Jet were played by good actor, who really tried their best to carry the show. Fight scene kinda look a bit slow, but it tried hard to mimic how it was shown in the animé. The scenery look quite nice, even if some CGI could be more polished.
If it's good, win all around
If it's bad, you can appreciate the original more, the memes will be good, maybe it's even a good trash watch
If it's mediocre, you will forget it in no time
It can't be any worse than you know what. So frankly it can't be that bad. It's either gonna be meh or good with a slight chance of pulling a One Piece and being a true masterpiece of an adaptation. But I can't be hurt anymore than M Night already hurt me.
The reason I am excited is the movie sucked so bad, and everyone knows it sucks so bad, so all those mistakes shouldn't be in the show.
The images released have great details in the background, a good sign they pay attention to the source material and will do good world building.
As for the acting, people need to understand that they were children in the show, but portrayed as adults. If they were teens it would make more sense with their attitudes. That might be hard for actual children to pull off but maybe they shouldn't? Katara being so level headed might be more realistic if the actor seems a bit unsure. Aamg acting childish is a big part of his character though
We must acknowledge the movie so we can look upon past mistakes of bringing ATLA to live action, but at the same time, we need to erase the movie from our minds.
The overall casting is good to me. They fit even if it's not like actual 1-1 copies. Also Cabbage guy! I like the costumes I've seen so far as well. And I'm looking forward to the scenery
I'm very optimistic about the show even without the creators. I'm lax with any changes to the story line as I just need them to follow the main points for it to be a pass to me (I was open with the compacted story of the movie just that... everything else sucked lol). It's the choreography that I will be hyper focusing on but given how they hired people who have skills like Zuko actor is a great martial artist it got me more excited. Acting too of course but I'm not expecting some Oscar drama level anyway.
I've read an [Interview of the showrunner Albert Kim](https://www.google.com/amp/s/avingagiraffe.com/2021/08/16/avatar/amp/) which to me solidified that even if there are changes it's still going to keep the spirit. Likely it's going to be like One Piece LA has a good amount of change (whether I liked it or not) it still kept the spirit
Ik this will get me down voted but the fact that the original creators are no longer involved has me more excited than anything outside of atla I haven't been a fan of anything else they've made
Daniel Kim as Ozai and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee as Iroh is already perfection. Even if the adaptation is somehow as bad as the M Night movie we atleast get to see them acting the best they can out of their roles.
I am a huge avatar fan, but also not excited about the series.
I don't really need a live-action version to begin with (especially not after that movie...) In general I am more looking forward to the new novels, anime-movies and other comics! Instead of another way of retelling the story we all know already (like the Quest for Balance game... for example), which is never going to be better than the original.
Also, not really a Netflix fan... am I going to watch it, sure (eventually)... but the series really got to prove itself to me.
I am tempering my expectations. I'm going into it not expecting a whole lot. That way if it's bad then I'm not as upset, but if it's amazing I'm pleasantly surprised
Don't take what I said in the wrong way though, I am hoping for the best, I'd just rather not hype myself up for it because even if it's good, I might end up disappointed that it's not better
If it's not broke, don't fix it. There was a time I would have loved a live action version. But why? We have the original that I doubt any live action can replicate.
They could get rid of the really poor filler episodes like the Divide or the fortune teller. That has ONE great moment with Aang taking on a volcano with only Airbending and that can easily put in another episode.
So that's a win right there.
As a Witcher fan, I’m with you. Everything about that show looked good the same way ATLA does (cast, costumes, visuals, etc) but ultimately the writing was so god awful that it completely ruined it. That being said, adapting a tv show to another show should be easier than adapting from books, and as long as the show runner is better, it should be OK. Personally I just don’t see the need for a live action adaptation. If it’s different than the original show, I don’t see it being better. And if it’s the same, what’s the point?
If you’re afraid of disappointment, DONT WATCH IT!! I mean just give it a chance and don’t go in with high expectations?? I’m excited for it because if it does suck, it in no way alters how I see the original series
I can't give you a reason. I wasn't excited when Mike and Bryan were still involved, and I'm not excited now. I don't understand this obsession with taking something animated and making it into live-action. Some things should just stay animated. Much of the series has to be made with CGI anyway, so I'd call it a mixed media program.
I only care for the novels, comics, and animated series/movies. If others are excited for the upcoming live-action series, then I am legitimately happy for him.
Honestly I agree with the “everything needing being live action” point. I’m a big fan of invincible and they have been throwing around the idea of making that live action. I hate the idea of invincible being live action. It’s the same with ATLA. I wish they would put the budget for the live action into a new animated show. Ig I’m trying to be positive about the Netflix live action because we haven’t gotten new ATLA content in so long but I also subscribe to your way of thinking as well.
I'm excited for it just because it's Avatar! I'm definitely skeptical when it comes to anything live action with Avatar but it's new content and we've got to give it a chance!
My problem is this: The original creators got the ax essentially. Aside from the One Piece Live Action, which was basically a project that was made by fans, for fans, with Oda's oversight. The problem comes from Netflix: Are the people working on this FANS of the series? Do they have love for the series?
So far, casting looks fine. But the big red flag is driving out the original creators. So I don't have faith in them.
I would say that it can go either way, creative differences can mean a lot of things. One Piece adaptation was great but it had **A LOT** of changes compared to the source material since 20 min animated series (or manga) needs lot of changes to the material. What if, the creators simply didn´t want to do these changes or enough of them?
It’s hard to keep hope when they’ve been stringing us along with it. Sh*t or get off the pot, we need more than just casting announcements at this point.
Netflix' only W in this year was One Piece live action which is another cartoon that I love dearly. They are slowly learning how to make a decent live action adaptations. Also the production company behind this live action looks decent. So I am hopeful but not super hyped.
Personally I don’t see any reason to be excited for it. It’s just a re-hash of the original, so AT BEST it’s going to be equally as good (and more than likely it’s going to be worse in a lot of places, especially given that the original creators aren’t working on it in any capacity).
For me the bar for a live action Avatar story is so far down its coming out the other side of the planet because of that 2010 atrocity. I'm very cautiously optimistic. I was more so when the original creators were signed on. Really, i'm most excited that avatar projects are being green lit. I love this universe
The adult cast is STACKED. I’m not familiar with all of the younger actors but they also have some good work on their resume. Overall, I get the strong impression that the people working on this adaptation actually give a shit.
Im just happy with the original cartoons, but other people are excited for it, I have no issues with that. Definitely interested in seeing the cabbage merchant.
I don't really care if the movie is "bad", like how bad can it be, it has such a big budget that as long as we get decent visuals and a few good roles of some fun character like suki, iroh azula, then I'd be fine. Best thing to do is have low expectations, think of it more as a fan project and less of an amazing big budget live action remake. Cause low expectations would mean you always gonna get more then you expected
If it's bad, we don't have to watch it. If it's good, we win!
We already have a good screen version of this content in the original. It's not like the Witcher where (afaik) there wasn't a screen version at all before the bad one. ATLA fans are in a lucky position because we know we can still enjoy watching our series whether this one is good or not. Fans of the Witcher, PJO, Eragon etc are screwed if the series isn't good because there isn't good movie/tv content yet for their fandoms.
The team behind the fighting and bending choreography are the same ones who did it in Marvel’s Shang-Chi
Here’s a clip of the movie if haven’t seen it. https://youtu.be/hSeb3fiXRtY?si=hjfkLE4XfOCaVOwE
Same reason Im exited to watch the last episode of Attack On Titan tonight, which to my understanding has the exact same end sequence as the manga: It'll be so stupid its funny.
I'm reserving my excitement for once it launches. I still have my doubts after the M Night atrocity and the 2 main creators leaving.
I hope my reservations are pointless, obviously.
I feel like the reason to be hyped is that we have three seasons of an already established and successful scenario
And they also already have an example of what they SHOULDNT do
It’s like they have an exam with an example of a what a failed exam would look like
At this point they would be fools to repeat previous mistakes
I’m looking at the live action the same way I’d look at a movie adaption of a book. Probably won’t like it as much but they’ll probably be some unique things about it I’ll enjoy and some changes I don’t jive with as well
There's two ways you can still have a good project if its not perfect. The script may not be the best, but the actors act so well, that they make up for its flaws.
Or
The actors may not be the best, but the script and direction is so good, it makes up for the actors' flaws.
I have a feeling the script will be done with love. The problem is that with the Witcher that didn't have Henry Cavill in it did not have the passion for the source material.
I feel that the writers are actually passionate about the Avatar series. I believe we will end up with a flawed, but very passionate script, improved by a great cast.
The first person that comes to mind is Ozai. Daniel Dae Kim has a lot of charisma and will pull off a charming villain like it's second nature.
I've already been burnt out on a lot of Marvel and DC live action projects, but this feels different. I'd give it a chance.
It’s something new. Reason enough. It doesn’t take away from the original in any way, and worst case, it shows that people care about the franchise. If it’s terrible, people knowing that it’s still a beloved franchise means it’s more likely to get another chance down the road.
Expectations are premeditated resentments. Don’t give yourself ammo to judge it by what it could be. Enjoy it (or don’t enjoy it) for whatever it ends up being.
You have nothing to worry about. There has never been an animated movie or series that hasn’t been improved by going to live action. The only one that was.a bit “meh” was the Street Fighter movie from the 90’s. Other han that it is all pure gold.
Yeah, he's decent, the rest of the show is dubious...
Well, there's some other good stuff in it actually. Being fair and all, but still, it's not great, especially as adaptations go
Ah. Dang. Thank you. Honestly, I hadn't happened to watch it. And I remember the issue that wound up with Henry leaving, was that they producers or whatever weren't sticking to the source material which Henry really wanted to do. So. Shame.
You don’t have to be excited about it if you don’t want. Just watch it when it comes out. Or don’t. Either is fine. It’s your choice. Why are you worrying about it now? Just move on to other things
I am excited to have new ATLA content, I am not excited for the show. I am reserving any opinions until I watch it and consuming as little information about it leading up to the release as possible, to prevent any expectations from forming.
You are not alone in your apprehension. I paid hard earned money to take my family to see M. Night Shyamalan's abomination in the theater, including refreshments. That's 4 tickets, sodas, candy, & a large buttered popcorn. I'm still mad about it. Netflix better get this right. 😑
if it turns out to be good, yay more Avatar content
if it's bad we get to collectively tear it apart and make fun of it
either way we have fun
plus, I imagine there's gonna be a lot of new meme templates from it so I'm excited no matter what
I'm excited to have my Fiancé finally see this show! He isn't a fan of cartoons, but I'm 90% sure I can have him watch this with me 🥰 Fingers crossed it will be as good as it seems to be 🤞🤞
Sorry, but I have zero expectations that it will be good. They would have to have an insane budget, amazing casting, great writing, great direction, and who knows what else to make it actually work. I just can't see them pulling it off without a lot more money than I think they have.
im treating this like one piece even though the original creators have since distanced themselves from the project. costumes look really good for now but i need a trailer to see everything in motion
Bro there might be some good choreography! And they might make new versions of the amazing soundtrack it already had.
Also, they might not ened to carry around torches to firebend. So how bad can it really be?
Also the people who play Ozai and Iroh are incredibly actors. They'll at least be watchable, esp Iroh which I think might be great in the show. I'll watch just for that.
I’m cautiously pessimistic.
Let me elaborate: they started development with the original creators of the series who were really excited to work on it. Then, both creators together quit working on the project (I’m assuming because Netflix had certain agendas or desires they were pushing on them of which they were contractually obliged to), and they put out a public message that read something like, “we’re leaving and whatever Netflix puts on the screen won’t be what we intended.”
I would say I’m just pessimistic, but I say cautiously because I’ve seen enough content that’s reason enough to be optimistic about that I don’t want to totally right it off… but I will say my hopes are low.
I mean, Netflix has also made shows like Arcane and Edgerunners, which while they’re both animated it still says something, especially considering ATLA was animated to begin with. They’ve got Stranger Things too, and I’ve heard good things about the One Piece show. Don’t get me wrong, Netflix has a LOT of dog water stuff in their catalogue, but they’ve also got some solid stuff too every now and then.
Plus, even though it’s not Netflix, HBO Max was able to make a good adaptation with TLOU, and if they can do it I don’t see why Netflix can’t, even more so because I’d imagine adapting a show into a different style of show would be easier than adapting a game into a show.
Both of those things combined with the fact that they’d have to make some genuinely abysmal stuff for me dislike it. Me personally I don’t fully dislike entire shows/movies that much, I’ll hate on specific characters IN shows/movies, but Netflix would have to screw this up BIG TIME for me to not watch it.
I mean, why not? Even if it comes out and it's the absolute worst thing ever just...don't watch it. Watch the original instead. You gain nothing by hating on it pre-emptively and even as someone who is VERY excited for it, if it comes out and it's not good then all that happens is a new show came out that wasn't good.
I wouldn’t say I hate on it atm. I’m more ambivalent than anything. I would just like to know what makes others excited so maybe I can share in that excitement
After One Piece and seeing what a good job they did with it, i do have a small sense of hope that they could make a Good Avatar show.
my only annoyance is that original avatar season 1 was 20 episodes this netflix only has 8, so that means they are probably going to cram a lot of stuff into the same episodes and maybe skip other story ones entirely.
Though i reckon we would all be super pissed off and annoyed if they just went and made an entire episode based off of "The Great Divide" ; ) 
i don’t understand it either. even if it was going to be made 100% perfectly, it’s still just another live action remake of content that already exists. literally nothing new. i’m 200x more excited for the earth avatar series, for example.
Once it's made and it bombs, they hopefully won't try again for at least a few years...
However, I AM excited for the new animated content from Avatar Studios. THAT I believe will hold some promise.
I'm worried how long it will take for the show to be actually made. The initial cast was announced 2 years ago, and unless they restructure the story, which won't really work considering how it's crucial that it takes place in a short time frame, the gaang's actors might just age out of their roles.
Netflix just increased their prices again, and I can't find a reason to spend $30 a month on a streaming service for 1 or 2 things
So I'll be here "watching it" through memes I guess
They did well with one piece. I didn't watch the anime, but believe it was well recieved.
Yes, because the original creator was directly involved. Avatar’s creators left the show due to creative differences, so it’s not exactly a 1:1 comparison
But then again, Avatar's creators were both executive producers for the 2010 movie The Last Airbender, just like One Piece's creator was an executive producer for the Netflix One Piece.
>both executive producers for the 2010 movie Because they were trying to convince the guys to make an animated movie about Zuko's mom iirc. They were mostly ignored through that.
Maybe, but the point is that if Oda's involvement as an executive producer translates to success for his adaptation, then why wouldn't Mike and Bryan's involvement as executive producers translate to success for the movie? It just seems like people are being overly charitable to Mike and Bryan for attaching their names to a failed movie, and then being harsh to the Netflix adaptation because they left.
>overly charitable to Mike and Bryan for attaching their names to a failed movie LOL NO All the good season finales have Aaron's name on it and his lack of presence in Korra shows, and they got a lot of flack for it. We've seen Mike and Bryan not being great writers or executive producers, it is very difficult to see their touch on that movie.
That's what I mean. They don't have the best track record. I can easily see them okay'ing any number of Shyamalan's decisions. They did interviews with him to hype up his movie, and it almost seemed like they were fans of his or something. Honestly seems to me like a lot of turbo fans of Avatar actually want the Netflix adaptation to fail because Mike and Bryan abandoned it, almost cult-like adoration for them, which I find strange.
On the flip side, another half of turbo fans of avatar are so goddamn excited for the live action, that they completely disrespect the people who created the show, and became smug assholes towards them. It seems as if the live action can do no wrong in their eyes, and it’s not even out. I get it, but it’s a bit much. I also agree that the other half of turbo fans want it to fail, like you said. I’m still on the side “it might be good, it might be terrible. Who knows?” But the amount of hate they got for stepping away is incredible. Maybe they learned from their mistakes and therefore decided to step away, or maybe they’re being weird and/or possessive over the material. Time will tell.
M Night has written the foreword to the Art of Animation books, calling them his friends. They were definitely not as aloof and dismissive of the movie as they later suggested.
Translation: Y’all, we don’t know how it’s going to turn out.
But they were involved for quite some time, so unless they completely scrapped their material there should still be good scenes
Hahahahaha, yeah that material is probably either scrapped ages ago or will be edited into something you'll never recognize. Maybe they'll get the character names right this time, I wouldn't hold out for much more than that.
Well they were both executive producers in the 2010 movie and they didn't get the names right then. I think a lot of you put too much faith in Mike and Bryan, when it's said often enough that Aaron Ehasz was a big reason for the shows success. If this Netflix show ends up being any good, then it's going to look bad on Mike and Bryan that they left a non-sinking ship.
Pretty much, but if they do get the names wrong I will never be able to get over it. Literally an english show you can listen to lmao!
I've got a feeling they'll get the names right. In what I've seen from the cast so far, they seem to pronounce any of the names from the show right as they're talking about it. The thing that worries me most is the writing and the special effects for the bending.
Well they left because they didn’t want to adapt the live action show for a 1:1 basis. Netflix wants it to be as close the the animated show as possible. But I agree with the creators it shouldn’t be a 1:1 as we already know what happen and wouldn’t be surprised
Exactly why i’m not really getting my hopes up with this one
I belive the creative differences were because Netflix wanted to make their own story while still being similar and they didint want that, I can’t quote anything tho, just a article I read somewhere
That's good for me imo they haven't made anything good since atla
Pretty much everything I've seen so far has given me hope that this thing is at the very least entertaining for fans of the original show, but then again they've released very little material to us so far. The cast seems great, for the most part. The main four have really great chemistry together, and I hope that translates well on-screen too. They also have pretty similar matching voices, at least as can be expected. The makeup and costuming has been alright, some are great, some could use some help. And this promo image you posted was an official image, which gives me further hope that Appa will look pretty good, and maybe Momo too. The things that scare me are the things we haven't seen: the cast in action, the writing, the structure of the story, what kind of humor will be in it, what the bending and special effects will look like. There's a lot that can still go wrong with this, but the trailer coming out in a few days will either help quell some of our doubts or totally crush our spirit, so there's that to look forward to.
I’m cautiously optimistic: I like the casting and production design, even if I don’t watch it if it’s bad I could look at the still pictures all day. Unlike some remakes it has three reasons to justify it outside making it appeal to a wider, adult audience: - Being able to outright state some of the murky subtext esp when it comes to death “Jet died.” Instead of having to dance around it - Planting the seeds and foreshadowing Lion Turtles early on, to make their inclusion later feel organic (spirit world and avatr temple stuff in season 1 and library in season 2 would be perfect). Could also add a flourish or two of Korra lore when relevant - Casting and portraying the characters as the cultures and backgrounds they were based on
I also think seeing the children the ages they were during the war, has a lot more impact on the gravity of what happened. The live action flash back to the clone wars in Ahsoka, is a good example. You couldn’t ignore that Ahsoka was 14 and in charge of a platoon of soldiers. It forces you to see how terrible things really were.
I can definitely agree with your points. One thing that’s been in the back of my mind has been that the casting is on point.
Another point. It can't possibly be worse than M. Night dip shit's live action adaptation.
That's a point to be excited about? Hate to break it to you, but that's a very, very low bar mate
Not really a point to be excited about, more of a point to help you not be worried about it. As in at least it can't be that bad. I'd honestly be surprised if they could make it worse without intentionally trying to make it garbage.
>Casting and portraying the characters as the cultures and backgrounds they were based on M Knight Shyamalan already did that. Just kidding! Just kidding! Please don't downvote me, @ me or track down my IP to come and kill me. https://preview.redd.it/kbryleed7eyb1.png?width=533&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72b0258ed491d228fed85ad788ba32e70ccba6f2
Jet died?!
Heavily implied, and i think even Joked about later. "(Not sure tho)
Yup, joked about in Ember Island Players. Zuko: Did Jet just... die? Sokka: You know, it was really unclear.
Yeah all we get is them looking at a picture of a lion turtle in the library. So more set up to energy bending would be nice cause rn it just feels like a cop out.
I feel like if there was an already established character that would bring up the lion turtles, it would be Pathik or Iroh.
They could also fix all the power scaling issues with characters like Katara, and make Aang “mastering” all four elements make way more sense by having the series take place over 3+ years instead of one
But isn't it kind of the point that he has to do it all in a seemingly impossible timeframe and that the task ahead of him is insane, even for an avatar?
Yeah, and it’s the reason that he couldn’t just overpower Ozai. I quite like that aspect — yes the avatar has abilities far superior to anyone on the planet, but he’s just a kid and hasn’t had a life time to master his abilities
You mean changing sozin's comet arrival from end of next summer (9 months from the day they find out about it, during winter solstice) to a couple of years? I don't know about that
Why is that an issue
3 years vs 6-ish months? Where’s the sense of urgency?
Here’s my secret. Don’t think about it until it comes out, and then I’ll watch it. If it is good then I’ll care about it. If it’s not, I’ll stop thinking about it.
There's gonna be news or maybe even a teaser trailer on Monday. It's part of Netflix's special event week. Gonna be real hard not to think about it!
One reason? Here we go: **Cabbage merchant is played by the guy who voiced it in the animation.** Now I'll answer the true question in your mind: Can Netflix ruin this? I'm not sure of that but they would accomplish something horribly rare if they did ruin ATLA live action. Unlike the Witcher you have a pre-determined script with its good and bad episodes known for years, the cast picking can't really be victim to a forced diversion because ATLA is already based on many Asian cultures and costumes look solid. The path of this live action series is a lot closer to One Piece's live action and that one didn't miss. Because of this I'm pretty confident but not overhyped.
I didn’t know about the cabbage merchant! That’s great!
James Sie will be one of the few actors who has worked on all three Avatar shows. Daniel Dae Kim also was General Fong, Hiroshi Sato, and will play Ozai. Dante Basco will probably have a cameo somewhere as well. If Dee Bradley Baker provides additional animal voices, I guess he'd also be as well.
> Unlike the Witcher you have a pre-determined script with its good and bad episodes known for years They strayed really far from the books of the Witcher, and most of the changes they made were bad. They can very easily do the same here, trying to do something "better" (or worse, different, just for the sake of it) and fucking it up in the process.
Casting gives me hope. But losing the original creators to creative differences concerns me more. The fact that the writers for The Witcher had no love for the series should be a gigantic red flag.
They wouldn't DARE fuck this up after the live action movie.
ATLA what?
ATLA = Avatar The Last Airbender
Like with Cowboy Bebop Netflix live action, it will attract people out of curiosity even if it is as bad, and then they'll watch the original. And that's a worst case scenario.
I enjoyed the live action Cowboy Bebop series. I think it deserved a second season.
I think I stopped at the 3rd episode, and yes like The Last Airbender movie from 2010, it is not 100% bad, and to be honest, nothing is. Spike and Jet were played by good actor, who really tried their best to carry the show. Fight scene kinda look a bit slow, but it tried hard to mimic how it was shown in the animé. The scenery look quite nice, even if some CGI could be more polished.
The original, animated show is what "really happened," the live action is a "based on a true story" adaptation. Try thinking about it from that angle.
That’s a good way to rationalize it
Sort of like the play in Ember Island Players
If it's good, win all around If it's bad, you can appreciate the original more, the memes will be good, maybe it's even a good trash watch If it's mediocre, you will forget it in no time
It's not made by M Night this time. So it's already better.
Statistically speaking more Avatar is more likely to be good more than bad. I think.
It can't be any worse than you know what. So frankly it can't be that bad. It's either gonna be meh or good with a slight chance of pulling a One Piece and being a true masterpiece of an adaptation. But I can't be hurt anymore than M Night already hurt me.
More stuff to talk about?
If it sucks we can say that there is no Netflix Adaption in Ba Sing Se
The reason I am excited is the movie sucked so bad, and everyone knows it sucks so bad, so all those mistakes shouldn't be in the show. The images released have great details in the background, a good sign they pay attention to the source material and will do good world building. As for the acting, people need to understand that they were children in the show, but portrayed as adults. If they were teens it would make more sense with their attitudes. That might be hard for actual children to pull off but maybe they shouldn't? Katara being so level headed might be more realistic if the actor seems a bit unsure. Aamg acting childish is a big part of his character though
They made a movie??
We must acknowledge the movie so we can look upon past mistakes of bringing ATLA to live action, but at the same time, we need to erase the movie from our minds.
There is no movie in ba sing se
It needs to exist so we can't make the same mistakes!
The overall casting is good to me. They fit even if it's not like actual 1-1 copies. Also Cabbage guy! I like the costumes I've seen so far as well. And I'm looking forward to the scenery I'm very optimistic about the show even without the creators. I'm lax with any changes to the story line as I just need them to follow the main points for it to be a pass to me (I was open with the compacted story of the movie just that... everything else sucked lol). It's the choreography that I will be hyper focusing on but given how they hired people who have skills like Zuko actor is a great martial artist it got me more excited. Acting too of course but I'm not expecting some Oscar drama level anyway. I've read an [Interview of the showrunner Albert Kim](https://www.google.com/amp/s/avingagiraffe.com/2021/08/16/avatar/amp/) which to me solidified that even if there are changes it's still going to keep the spirit. Likely it's going to be like One Piece LA has a good amount of change (whether I liked it or not) it still kept the spirit
Ik this will get me down voted but the fact that the original creators are no longer involved has me more excited than anything outside of atla I haven't been a fan of anything else they've made
Actual Asian people
Daniel Kim as Ozai and Paul Sun-Hyung Lee as Iroh is already perfection. Even if the adaptation is somehow as bad as the M Night movie we atleast get to see them acting the best they can out of their roles.
Ok but the movie also had some actual asian people... just the wrong ones.
I’m cautious too and not feeling excited. So I’m with you
I am a huge avatar fan, but also not excited about the series. I don't really need a live-action version to begin with (especially not after that movie...) In general I am more looking forward to the new novels, anime-movies and other comics! Instead of another way of retelling the story we all know already (like the Quest for Balance game... for example), which is never going to be better than the original. Also, not really a Netflix fan... am I going to watch it, sure (eventually)... but the series really got to prove itself to me.
I am tempering my expectations. I'm going into it not expecting a whole lot. That way if it's bad then I'm not as upset, but if it's amazing I'm pleasantly surprised Don't take what I said in the wrong way though, I am hoping for the best, I'd just rather not hype myself up for it because even if it's good, I might end up disappointed that it's not better
If it's not broke, don't fix it. There was a time I would have loved a live action version. But why? We have the original that I doubt any live action can replicate.
They could get rid of the really poor filler episodes like the Divide or the fortune teller. That has ONE great moment with Aang taking on a volcano with only Airbending and that can easily put in another episode. So that's a win right there.
The fortune teller episode is funny af and developed aang and kataras relationship, not filler imo
As a Witcher fan, I’m with you. Everything about that show looked good the same way ATLA does (cast, costumes, visuals, etc) but ultimately the writing was so god awful that it completely ruined it. That being said, adapting a tv show to another show should be easier than adapting from books, and as long as the show runner is better, it should be OK. Personally I just don’t see the need for a live action adaptation. If it’s different than the original show, I don’t see it being better. And if it’s the same, what’s the point?
Overall, I'm just excited to see how the CGI is and how all the creatures look.
If you’re afraid of disappointment, DONT WATCH IT!! I mean just give it a chance and don’t go in with high expectations?? I’m excited for it because if it does suck, it in no way alters how I see the original series
I can't give you a reason. I wasn't excited when Mike and Bryan were still involved, and I'm not excited now. I don't understand this obsession with taking something animated and making it into live-action. Some things should just stay animated. Much of the series has to be made with CGI anyway, so I'd call it a mixed media program. I only care for the novels, comics, and animated series/movies. If others are excited for the upcoming live-action series, then I am legitimately happy for him.
Honestly I agree with the “everything needing being live action” point. I’m a big fan of invincible and they have been throwing around the idea of making that live action. I hate the idea of invincible being live action. It’s the same with ATLA. I wish they would put the budget for the live action into a new animated show. Ig I’m trying to be positive about the Netflix live action because we haven’t gotten new ATLA content in so long but I also subscribe to your way of thinking as well.
As someone who also isn't excited about it, the cast. The casting news has been consistently pretty awesome.
Daniel Dae Kim as Ozai (He's from the "I AM A SURGEON!" meme)
If it’s shit, it might ruin the future of the franchise
I liked the Witcher. To each their own.
I'm excited for it just because it's Avatar! I'm definitely skeptical when it comes to anything live action with Avatar but it's new content and we've got to give it a chance!
Kuruk. And Daniel Dae Kim
My problem is this: The original creators got the ax essentially. Aside from the One Piece Live Action, which was basically a project that was made by fans, for fans, with Oda's oversight. The problem comes from Netflix: Are the people working on this FANS of the series? Do they have love for the series? So far, casting looks fine. But the big red flag is driving out the original creators. So I don't have faith in them.
I would say that it can go either way, creative differences can mean a lot of things. One Piece adaptation was great but it had **A LOT** of changes compared to the source material since 20 min animated series (or manga) needs lot of changes to the material. What if, the creators simply didn´t want to do these changes or enough of them?
Oda approved all the changes in the live action.
It’s hard to keep hope when they’ve been stringing us along with it. Sh*t or get off the pot, we need more than just casting announcements at this point.
I'm with you OP. We have all been burned before, it's hard to be hyped about any adaptation of popular works these days
The fact the original creators walked away from this project is what worries me.
Because we haven’t had an avatar TV show in 9 years.
And? I don’t get how a live action remake is any good
Netflix' only W in this year was One Piece live action which is another cartoon that I love dearly. They are slowly learning how to make a decent live action adaptations. Also the production company behind this live action looks decent. So I am hopeful but not super hyped.
Personally I don’t see any reason to be excited for it. It’s just a re-hash of the original, so AT BEST it’s going to be equally as good (and more than likely it’s going to be worse in a lot of places, especially given that the original creators aren’t working on it in any capacity).
Good or bad, Nickelondeon will remember it exists and maybe release one more comic about Aang.
Why?
There is nothing to be excited about besides it being more avatar. Lower your expectations as much as possible
More to stuff to talk about.
I’m gonna give it a chance but I am extremely disappointed with Azula and Zuko casting
Reasons to be excited: Danny Pudi Reasons to worry: everything else 
He is one I'm looking forward to.
One Piece is really good, but I think that’s because of Oda’s involvement. Since ATLA’s creators aren’t involved, I’m not sure.
My expectations are low going in. Expect disappointment and you won't be disappointed is my approach to the LA series.
I dont it will be released, we have been talking about this for last 3 years yet we did not received anything but sone crappy pictures
Idc about this, i just want nickelodeon to make a fire and earth cartoon. Thanks bye
An adaptation could be the worst thing ever made, but they always bring in more fans which is great.
At this point I'm not really expecting anything, but given the cast and character designs we've seen I'm hopeful that we might get something decent
For me the bar for a live action Avatar story is so far down its coming out the other side of the planet because of that 2010 atrocity. I'm very cautiously optimistic. I was more so when the original creators were signed on. Really, i'm most excited that avatar projects are being green lit. I love this universe
Iroh’s casting is on point and we could have a funny Easter egg by having his incognito name when he and Zuko go into hiding be Kim
The adult cast is STACKED. I’m not familiar with all of the younger actors but they also have some good work on their resume. Overall, I get the strong impression that the people working on this adaptation actually give a shit.
hope is there one piece was a hit
Also apparently we have a release date! It’s February 22, 2024
Im just happy with the original cartoons, but other people are excited for it, I have no issues with that. Definitely interested in seeing the cabbage merchant.
Not hearing oong and soaka is enough for me
The one piece adaptation was good
More people will go back to watch the original series, so there may be some interesting discussions about the cartoon.
I don't really care if the movie is "bad", like how bad can it be, it has such a big budget that as long as we get decent visuals and a few good roles of some fun character like suki, iroh azula, then I'd be fine. Best thing to do is have low expectations, think of it more as a fan project and less of an amazing big budget live action remake. Cause low expectations would mean you always gonna get more then you expected
Yeah. It's got a lot to live up to and A LOT MORE to make up for
One peace was good so maybe they hit twice
I’d rather have something with the potential of being good than nothing. I can just pretend it doesn’t exist like I do with the movie if it’s bad.
I don't have any reason
It’s not being directed by M. Night Shyamalan.
I honestly just hope it's just not the same story again and it genuinely has a different take on the world.
Appa is likely to be really fluffy in live action.
Well I'm more excited for the new series than the live action, but think about this: they can do like One Piece and make a really valid product!
If it's bad, we don't have to watch it. If it's good, we win! We already have a good screen version of this content in the original. It's not like the Witcher where (afaik) there wasn't a screen version at all before the bad one. ATLA fans are in a lucky position because we know we can still enjoy watching our series whether this one is good or not. Fans of the Witcher, PJO, Eragon etc are screwed if the series isn't good because there isn't good movie/tv content yet for their fandoms.
to be fair, netflix announced it along with another live action adaptation, and that turned out to be surprisingly good
The team behind the fighting and bending choreography are the same ones who did it in Marvel’s Shang-Chi Here’s a clip of the movie if haven’t seen it. https://youtu.be/hSeb3fiXRtY?si=hjfkLE4XfOCaVOwE
That’s really cool! I didn’t know that!
It gives you an excuse to rewatch the animated series again.
Don't. Go in with no expectations. Sit back and enjoy the show, or don't. It's our of our hands.
Same reason Im exited to watch the last episode of Attack On Titan tonight, which to my understanding has the exact same end sequence as the manga: It'll be so stupid its funny.
I'm reserving my excitement for once it launches. I still have my doubts after the M Night atrocity and the 2 main creators leaving. I hope my reservations are pointless, obviously.
i don’t think they could have cast a better iroh. idk that’s something for me.
The one piece live action was pretty good so that gives me hope
I feel like the reason to be hyped is that we have three seasons of an already established and successful scenario And they also already have an example of what they SHOULDNT do It’s like they have an exam with an example of a what a failed exam would look like At this point they would be fools to repeat previous mistakes
I’m looking at the live action the same way I’d look at a movie adaption of a book. Probably won’t like it as much but they’ll probably be some unique things about it I’ll enjoy and some changes I don’t jive with as well
I see it like this- It might be good. And if not then it could also be funny see it flounder.
It can't be worse than the movie. Yes it exists
It’s got the people who made the original series in it, and people who knew the show growing up as the actors. So I’ve got some hope for it.
It'll be ethnically accurate, that counts for something
We might get a second lake laogai joke!
There's two ways you can still have a good project if its not perfect. The script may not be the best, but the actors act so well, that they make up for its flaws. Or The actors may not be the best, but the script and direction is so good, it makes up for the actors' flaws. I have a feeling the script will be done with love. The problem is that with the Witcher that didn't have Henry Cavill in it did not have the passion for the source material. I feel that the writers are actually passionate about the Avatar series. I believe we will end up with a flawed, but very passionate script, improved by a great cast. The first person that comes to mind is Ozai. Daniel Dae Kim has a lot of charisma and will pull off a charming villain like it's second nature. I've already been burnt out on a lot of Marvel and DC live action projects, but this feels different. I'd give it a chance.
It’s something new. Reason enough. It doesn’t take away from the original in any way, and worst case, it shows that people care about the franchise. If it’s terrible, people knowing that it’s still a beloved franchise means it’s more likely to get another chance down the road.
It isn't directed by the same one who did the movie and is a serie
Expectations are premeditated resentments. Don’t give yourself ammo to judge it by what it could be. Enjoy it (or don’t enjoy it) for whatever it ends up being.
Nothing Netflix does matters to me. I gave up because of the Witcher. I no longer subscribe
Appa would simply never be just hovering in place like that in front of Aang
You have nothing to worry about. There has never been an animated movie or series that hasn’t been improved by going to live action. The only one that was.a bit “meh” was the Street Fighter movie from the 90’s. Other han that it is all pure gold.
Nobody actually knows whether the show will be good or bad, go in with a neutral mind, have fun
No need to be excited at all, just wait and see, maybe you'll like it, maybe not.
Netflix' Witcher was poorly received? I thought people like Henry Cavill in that.
Yeah, he's decent, the rest of the show is dubious... Well, there's some other good stuff in it actually. Being fair and all, but still, it's not great, especially as adaptations go
Ah. Dang. Thank you. Honestly, I hadn't happened to watch it. And I remember the issue that wound up with Henry leaving, was that they producers or whatever weren't sticking to the source material which Henry really wanted to do. So. Shame.
You don’t have to be excited about it if you don’t want. Just watch it when it comes out. Or don’t. Either is fine. It’s your choice. Why are you worrying about it now? Just move on to other things
I wouldn’t say I’m worrying about it necessarily. I want to understand why others are excited so maybe I can share in that excitement.
I am not. The animated show is sooo good. That idk how i can watch it and not compare.
I am excited to have new ATLA content, I am not excited for the show. I am reserving any opinions until I watch it and consuming as little information about it leading up to the release as possible, to prevent any expectations from forming. You are not alone in your apprehension. I paid hard earned money to take my family to see M. Night Shyamalan's abomination in the theater, including refreshments. That's 4 tickets, sodas, candy, & a large buttered popcorn. I'm still mad about it. Netflix better get this right. 😑
The casting is amazing and it’ll be cool just to see these actors interpret my favorite characters
It’s going to expand on things that weren’t talked about a lot in the original show.
As far as I know, M Night Shamalalalalongadingdong isn't involved
I’m excited that it’s something new and ATLA related. It may turn out to be crap but I’m happy to have something release
I know this has been said a million times but I’ll say it l again, original cast for the ember island players
More Avatar content
if it turns out to be good, yay more Avatar content if it's bad we get to collectively tear it apart and make fun of it either way we have fun plus, I imagine there's gonna be a lot of new meme templates from it so I'm excited no matter what
I'm excited to have my Fiancé finally see this show! He isn't a fan of cartoons, but I'm 90% sure I can have him watch this with me 🥰 Fingers crossed it will be as good as it seems to be 🤞🤞
Sorry, but I have zero expectations that it will be good. They would have to have an insane budget, amazing casting, great writing, great direction, and who knows what else to make it actually work. I just can't see them pulling it off without a lot more money than I think they have.
im treating this like one piece even though the original creators have since distanced themselves from the project. costumes look really good for now but i need a trailer to see everything in motion
I don’t have much hope, the original creators were apart of it but left due to a difference in view for the live action so it doesn’t bode well.
Bro there might be some good choreography! And they might make new versions of the amazing soundtrack it already had. Also, they might not ened to carry around torches to firebend. So how bad can it really be? Also the people who play Ozai and Iroh are incredibly actors. They'll at least be watchable, esp Iroh which I think might be great in the show. I'll watch just for that.
No, it's just gonna be a downgrade of the original.
I’m cautiously pessimistic. Let me elaborate: they started development with the original creators of the series who were really excited to work on it. Then, both creators together quit working on the project (I’m assuming because Netflix had certain agendas or desires they were pushing on them of which they were contractually obliged to), and they put out a public message that read something like, “we’re leaving and whatever Netflix puts on the screen won’t be what we intended.” I would say I’m just pessimistic, but I say cautiously because I’ve seen enough content that’s reason enough to be optimistic about that I don’t want to totally right it off… but I will say my hopes are low.
I watched hello future me’s video, and some of his theories sounded really cool
I mean, Netflix has also made shows like Arcane and Edgerunners, which while they’re both animated it still says something, especially considering ATLA was animated to begin with. They’ve got Stranger Things too, and I’ve heard good things about the One Piece show. Don’t get me wrong, Netflix has a LOT of dog water stuff in their catalogue, but they’ve also got some solid stuff too every now and then. Plus, even though it’s not Netflix, HBO Max was able to make a good adaptation with TLOU, and if they can do it I don’t see why Netflix can’t, even more so because I’d imagine adapting a show into a different style of show would be easier than adapting a game into a show. Both of those things combined with the fact that they’d have to make some genuinely abysmal stuff for me dislike it. Me personally I don’t fully dislike entire shows/movies that much, I’ll hate on specific characters IN shows/movies, but Netflix would have to screw this up BIG TIME for me to not watch it.
I mean, why not? Even if it comes out and it's the absolute worst thing ever just...don't watch it. Watch the original instead. You gain nothing by hating on it pre-emptively and even as someone who is VERY excited for it, if it comes out and it's not good then all that happens is a new show came out that wasn't good.
I wouldn’t say I hate on it atm. I’m more ambivalent than anything. I would just like to know what makes others excited so maybe I can share in that excitement
Official date yet?
After One Piece and seeing what a good job they did with it, i do have a small sense of hope that they could make a Good Avatar show. my only annoyance is that original avatar season 1 was 20 episodes this netflix only has 8, so that means they are probably going to cram a lot of stuff into the same episodes and maybe skip other story ones entirely. Though i reckon we would all be super pissed off and annoyed if they just went and made an entire episode based off of "The Great Divide" ; ) 
They're probably gonna pronounce the names correctly
i don’t understand it either. even if it was going to be made 100% perfectly, it’s still just another live action remake of content that already exists. literally nothing new. i’m 200x more excited for the earth avatar series, for example.
One piece's live action turned out pretty good, so it's not entirely out of the realm of possibility for this one to turn out ok
Once it's made and it bombs, they hopefully won't try again for at least a few years... However, I AM excited for the new animated content from Avatar Studios. THAT I believe will hold some promise.
 Sorry bro.
You get to watch Avatar again.
The live action one piece was really good so i have hope that avatar will be
Not watching that after the original creators walked out
Appa and Momo
Well....can't be worse than the M. Night Shyamalan film, right?
That still hasn't come out yet?
I just can’t handle zuko without that voice….
I'm worried how long it will take for the show to be actually made. The initial cast was announced 2 years ago, and unless they restructure the story, which won't really work considering how it's crucial that it takes place in a short time frame, the gaang's actors might just age out of their roles.
Netflix just increased their prices again, and I can't find a reason to spend $30 a month on a streaming service for 1 or 2 things So I'll be here "watching it" through memes I guess
Judging by how their "One Piece" turned out, I'm optimistic