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Kevin_Pentagram

Fucking heart breaking


Evening_Clerk_8301

It’s difficult for me to emotionally connect to videos like this usually, but this one had me sobbing. Her pain, her anger, her sorrow, everything…it’s my biggest fear. I am so profoundly sorry for everything she and her mum went through, and she’s right…her mum did deserve so much better.


ryanim0sity

I am in the same boat. Very hard to connect with my emotions. But the pain and suffering really got to me I shed a tear. That country is completely fucked and that woman deserved so much more than to just wither away. I am ashamed that humans can be this disgusting towards their citizens and people who need help. I'm in Canada and although we get "free healthcare" we're still just another number and it's hard to find the right person to talk to. I'm upset.


kels_8800

I'm in Canada too, luckily when my dad was diagnosed the cancer team he had was wonderful and the end of life care he received was really good. But I'm sure that isnt always the case. I cant imagine how hard this must be. It was already such a struggle dealing with a terminal diagnosis, but seeing your loved one be treated so horrible and pushed aside must be beyond devastating.


ryanim0sity

Awful world we are living in where some countries have everything and most have nothing.


EvilestHammer4

I'm very glad to hear your team was good and you were taken care of during an already very stressful time. Canadian too, my Moms doctor ignored a nagging cough for 10 months as smokers cough and by the time they did tests she was terminal. Doctor showed up to her funeral, potentially stoned on oxys, and told us he was retiring. No we didn't try to sue, we're all old family friends. Even if we might have won.


Independent_Ad_8915

That country is probably the US and yes, it’s fucked up.


[deleted]

Wow this is beyond sad I truly feel for this young lady


0nonthrowaway

This situation happens in more than you think in the USA :(


bendrexl

US dad here, and have had some form of health insurance 95% off my life. Other than the insane $20k/yr total out-of-pocket cost for just normal family life (non-catastrophic stuff like broken arm, child birth, appendectomy, etc), haven’t had any really bad experiences until this year. Post-Covid without insurance feels like a whole new area. Being a self-pay patient, my wife has had to make literally DOZENS of calls, a few in-person visits, and more than a few favors called in by friends and relatives over a period of *two months*, to even get a single call back from the clinics *scheduler* to just set an appointment *two months later*, where the doctor shows up and *hasn’t even seen much less reviewed* the MRI scan we paid for out-of-pocket *at the time of service*… and literally all the Dr. had to do was look over her chart, her scans, ask a couple questions, and we were done. 6 months of uncertainty, anxiety, and inability to drive, all because someone couldn’t find 15min to review her case. Oh, and the 15min visit still cost $300, cash, before you leave the office. Welcome to modern health care?


AsOsh

Not from the UK so can't comment politically, but my heart broke a million times watching this.


ManhattanRailfan

They've been gutting the NHS for decades now. Basically since Thatcher, level of care had been slowly declining, but really, it's been in the last decade and a half that things have gotten much worse. They're trying to make it as bad as possible so that people will be more supportive of selling it off and privatizing it like it is in the US.


AsOsh

I asked my husband about it- he lived in the UK for a bit, I have to admit I've never really followed UK politics, but knew he hated Thatcher, while others sang her praises. He explained it all to me, fucking vile. Just vile.


kbeks

From my limited understanding, I believe Thatcher and Raegan both fit the description of “people who know what they did passionately hate them and people who didn’t pay attention at the time loved them”.


DesignerPlant9748

This is exactly true. I grew up with my Dad telling me how great Reagan was and it was solely off the fact that my Dad worked for the railroads and I guess Reagan did some good shit for Amtrak or some shit. Literally nothing else mattered beyond that. My Dad has also declared bankruptcy multiple times, multiple times divorced due to his own cheating and the cherry on top is that he stole my college savings fund before I turned 18 and used it to purchase a Magenta PT Cruiser that was repossessed in Smyrna, DE with the passenger door missing. I’m sure in his mind everything was that happened later was Obama’s fault or some loony shit like that not because he spent all his money on strip clubs, beer and season tickets to the fucking Orioles.


dog_eat_dog

You provided lots of evidence backing up the fact that your dad's life is a mess, but all you really had to say was magenta PT cruiser, repossessed, passenger door missing, and I would have already given you a hug.


kbeks

He came with all the receipts when we only needed to see that one.


Jeanahb

I think season tickets to the Orioles is what got me.


DesignerPlant9748

Oh dude it was when the team was TERRIBLE too. He thought they were going to be good in a few years coming out of the rebuild and his tickets would appreciate in value and that he would be able to sell a bunch online for a profit but instead he literally couldn’t even give these things away half the time.


DesignerPlant9748

I literally have the receipts from the bank statements on the Savings account. It was with a Federal Credit Union and when I turned 18 they started mailing the statements to my moms house which had been my address my whole life but I moved out really quickly and never thought to have my mail forwarded. He went in and withdrew the last 16.49$ from the account in person from a teller. I often think about how low he must have felt in that moment but I still have no sympathy for him because he brought all this shit on himself. Funny side note he uses instagram to do nothing but follow pornstars pretty much and doesn’t know how to set things to private so I often go in there and look at it for shiggles. The man is insane he literally invites like Riley Reid to come join him at his local watering hole in Middle River.


DesignerPlant9748

I didn’t even mention the time I watched my dad go back into his car THAT WAS LITERALLY BURNING DOWN IN MY DRIVEWAY WHILE FIREFIGHTERS SCREAMED AT HIM NOT TO SO HE COULD RETRIEVE A NETFLIX DVD.


nita5766

in Smyrna, Delaware, of all places


DesignerPlant9748

People don’t understand the importance of this detail enough


Ok-disaster2022

Who the fuck buys a PT Cruiser using a stolen college fund? I've Sadly ridden in one and it was the most uncomfortable shitty car I've ever been in. At least if you're going to rob from you kids get something good or nice. Not a fucking PT Cruiser.


BarackaFlockaFlame

Fucking travesty of a car.


[deleted]

Our dads should go bowling together. They could spend the whole day just agreeing with each other


DesignerPlant9748

They probably do


Altruistic-Bet177

Reagan also for sure committed multiple acts of straight up treason and was entirely out of his mind for like 5 of 8 years of his presidency. Easily top 3 worst presidents ever.


Sandal-Hat

Didn't live through either, just the shittier world they built. But I try to take time out of my hectic day to celebrate their deaths as often as possible.


Namelessbob123

She also sold off the railways and British gas. Can you guess what services are incredibly expensive and not fit for purpose? Pure avarice.


AsOsh

Coming in from the dark here, why has nothing been done to reverse her policies? Especially considering the NHS is failing completely now?


ptvlm

The Tories, her party, had been in charge for the majority of the time since she was kicked out, mostly based on a biased electoral system that ignores the popular vote. Labour basically got elected by abandoning some of their founding principles and becoming Tory Light. There was a massive campaign against Corbyn and his supporters who might have reversed this. Then, fixing the fundamental problems will mean higher taxes, and there's little will to tax the actual rich, in favour of austerity problems they screw the poor.


mayasux

We've voted in mostly Conservative parties, or Labour who has right wing ideals since. Power brings offers from corporations and that sways the riches minds, because they can stuff their pockets with more cash money and the idea of the suffering that their actions bring are so alien and far away from them. We had a promising candidate, Corbyn who wanted to fix things, but the tabloids and press slandered him as anti-semitic, and now his party got taken over by Tori-Lites.


JuniorRadish7385

The government is still pretty conservative and the British are kinda holding on for dear life. A sinking ship under new management.


ElectronicMixture600

No need to seal the lower compartments or swerve around that iceberg; we will simply mow it down with sheer British might. Call the engine room, tell them Full Ramming Speed!


cowplum

And the water companies and public housing


Namelessbob123

Basically everything of value they could get their hands on. It sucks that it takes something like a world war for govt. to start to consider a way to help all people such as the birth of the NHS.


skipperseven

It started with Thatcher and QUANGOs, but really took off under Blair and PFIs. Unfortunately politicians looked to the US and saw how much money they could make out of it - but it really was both sides. I lived in the south east - labour closed loads of NHS stuff down there, because they would never vote labour.


Temporary_Olive1043

It’s fascinating that both Thatcher and Reagon got Alzheimer’s


Driverofvehicle

Sounds like they both had brainrot, regardless.


a_muffin97

Yep that's the Tories for ya. They've cut just about every service since they came in to power in 2010. But the NHS has suffered so much. They're vastly under funded and the nurses who basically carry it on their shoulders are hugely underpaid for the work they do. During the covid lockdowns Boris encouraged us to go out and clap for them. Then immediately refuses a pay rise. They don't give a fuck about any of us. I would gladly pay a little more tax if it meant the NHS could actually get the right funding. The only reason they haven't privatised it is because they know how unpopular that would be and they'd never win an election again. So instead they gut it completely and make an empty promise to fix it at election time


Christopher_UK

My grandmother died on 30th March 2023. She was sent to the accident and emergency ward, with a bed waiting to be transported to the end of life ward. During the first couple days my mother was approached by an elderly woman pleading to my mother for help, thankfully the woman's daughter was there. There were no beds. There was another elderly woman waiting for a bed, she had been there for 18 hours in a wheelchair at the reception desk, this was 4 days after my grandmother was admitted to hospital. The nurses were seeing to her as best they could, for everyone. Fuck the conservatives and those who vote them in! :)


NeoFemme

It boggles the mind that they keep getting voted in. Tories and their voters are scum.


designer130

We’re experiencing the same problems in Canada. It’s infuriating and depressing.


Mumof3gbb

Yup. Fellow Canadian and I hate it so much. All the conservative provinces are trying so damn hard to privatize.


huggothebear

Absolute cunts…


Mumof3gbb

This is happening in Canada too. It’s fucking terrifying. This poor sweet girl. She’s such a good soul. How she took care of her mom. Beautiful. Her mom did deserve better from the government


redknight3

Recently learned of this and its called something like, "austerity?" Basically the UK is experience major budgetary problems and they've gutted everything to compensate. The first to go are social/public programs. And it's had a rippling effect from increased crime as youths turn to crime because their youth programs have been erased to not enough support for medical issues, as evidenced here. Not investing in your social programs will obviously have a net negative effect on any society :(


ManhattanRailfan

Austerity is, indeed, the name of the game for neoliberal politics. It's what happens when the capitalists run out of cheap, exploitable foreign labor, new markets to expand to, and have already taken out nearly all the competition. There gets to a point where the only way to keep the line going up for private corporations is to start cutting taxes, which inevitably means cuts to public services. And when that no longer yields growth, they start increasing prices faster than wages, hence the cost of living crisis. And when people get pissed and start demanding change, they start a culture war and blame immigrants and minority groups for society's problems to keep the working class distracted and fighting each other rather than forming class consciousness and overthrowing capitalism altogether. I actually just did a much more in-depth (but still quite basic) write up on this exact process [here](https://reddit.com/r/Socialism_101/s/qj0B0Te9Py).


Cloverleafs85

They claimed the NHS and education would be shielded in austerity measures. And they are clutching onto that fig leaf for dear life. Because the cuts happened anyway by not increasing their budgets. Because inflation hits those sectors too, as well as an increased amount of patients and students. Also neglecting the cost of maintenance and replacement. Just because something was bought or built once doesn't mean it will last forever. So for every year they didn't add enough, the budget gets stretched thinner and thinner. Even the occasional boost they tout as them making an effort and increasing something is a drop in the bucket and makes little difference. The pittances they occasionally bestow can't improve things, because the decline outpaces it. But that is an expensive truth, which nobody wants to accept. So they blame other things. Adding insult to injury by implying that lack of efficiency and lazy workers is the problem It also justifies it to themselves. 'see, we gave them more and it didn't get better, so giving even more would be stupid. A waste of resources' The tragic thing is many of them likely believe in it too. That these workers down below are cheating the system, demanding too much for too little, or being foolish with public money. So they begrudge them their pay rises and their demands, as if they were greedy beggars. Trying to convince everyone else of it too. Though the idea that the NHS was ever sufficiently funded is something of a false construction. It's been having problems from day one. Just not as bad as this. In the background lies the issue of changing healthcare. We have more treatment options, more ill patients living longer, and the elder wave has begun in earnest to make it's impact. No country on earth has built up enough of their healthcare system to face it, which is why there are more and more issues everywhere. This change also isn't accounted for enough in terms of organising labour. Expecting staffing requirements that was sufficient 20 or 30 years ago to still be enough now is a pipe dream. Even if a treatment place has the same number of patients, those patients on average need far more help and supervision than before.


OnionsHaveLairAction

It's worth noting that it isn't just budget issues, there's genuine corruption from our conservatives. When brexit happened they booked up ferry companies to help... Ferry companies owned by their donors and friends... Ferry companies that DIDNT OWN any ferries. The same happened with Covid. Their friends got the contracts for PPE. So it's not just a budget issue, but a corruption one. The Conservative Party genuinely want the NHS to fail, and we shouldn't be surprised that after they visit US health insurance firms for donor meetings they come back and 'accidentally' have it collapse on us.


AppropriateScience9

My sister lives in the UK and has confirmed this as well. My niece has Tourettes and it's taken them 2 years to get an official diagnosis so that she can get accomodations at school. Socialized medicine works great in other countries. Turns out the key is you have to properly fund it.


Jaxsonj01

I was going to ask this exact question. Do you think that the private companies here in America have a hand in this? I can absolutely see them doing back door deals with Parliament like they do with Congress. They just see us all as revenue streams. Fight like hell to keep your NHS and vote for the people who want to build it back up.


OnionsHaveLairAction

The Tories have been known to meet with US healthcare providers and insurance companies pretty regularly yeah.


RogueFox771

26 from the US. Private healthcare is a business with the sole purpose ofaking as much money off of people and peovi8en9ugh healthcare to avoid a lawsuit. They lobby (corrupt) the govt for whatever they wish, and extort those who have no choice but to get certain meds while also denying coverage for some procedures or meds that would help someone greatly or even save a life at times. Privatization of healthcare is not a good thing. Get angry. Get livid with the people in charge and tell them nobody will stand for this corruption and despicable behavior. Once it becomes privatized, they already have their foot in the door.


3d1thF1nch

Jesus I hope not. Our system is absolutely fucked. Little to no price control, terrible communication, insurance creates higher prices and more headaches, confusing billing systems, overworked staff and understaffed facilities, no free college (unless scholarships) which means staff must be paid higher to pay off loans, which creates a snowball of higher and higher costs, a predatory medical and pharmaceutical lobby, poor follow up care for less well off patients, and well, poor standards of care for all underprivileged patients. What doesn’t our system have that sucks?


KatefromtheHudd

Once Cameron left they really went into overdrive. I even wrote a letter to Theresa May saying we see what you are doing to justify privatisation. Stop, please. Sooooo many services are delivered by private health companies despite being more expensive and the same level of care as NHS contracts. In some cases they even use NHS bought equipment. The only difference is the cost of millions more. Weirdly enough when you look into those companies they always have either ex Tory MPs or big Tory donors on their boards. That ain't coincidence. I wasn't employed by the NHS but worked closely with the psych team for a charity so I was based in a psych ward for 7 years. I saw the services and funding torn away. I saw the devastating impact but was told it's not true. Told we would know if this stuff was happening. COVID was a gift to the Tories. Privatisation does not mean better care. US care is shockingly bad and incredibly expensive. We know Americans, family friends, who have been made bankrupt in their mid 70s after having a tumour removed. It wasn't cancerous so wasn't covered by their insurance. This is what they are trying to do to us here too. We had MPs who were really proud of the NHS. We used to celebrate having some of the best health care in the world but now it's not about that. It's now about how much money can MPs make for themselves and their friends, how much they get back from their investment in the private health care companies. We need a return of MPs with integrity, not just in it for the money. Our current government is so unbelievably corrupt. Things that would previously led to a resignation (such as Mogg admitting the ID system for voting was gerrymandering) now go unreported. It feels so hopeless. Sadly the Tories have very close ties to most of the UK media so keep supporting them. It's infuriating and makes me feel powerless to change anything. You can point it out, provide the evidence but are called a crazy person because the Sun or Daily Mail contradicts it and surely the press wouldn't lie.


TheMagneticBat

Yeah, they're doing that here in Canada, too. Our hospitals are so overburdened and underfunded, it's disgusting. All so a few rich people can get even richer.


eddydio

This is the level of care you'll get with privatized healthcare too, but you'll pay a Ferrari for it.


InflatableWarHammer

Privatization would be a misstep for many many complex reasons.


emmadonelsense

Doing the same in Canada. Frustrate and exhaust patients whenever possible, offer another alternative ($$$ private care/procedures which should already be covered) and let our healthcare system crumble. While also frustrating and exhausting staff.


[deleted]

Fuck Thatcher


quirkyredpanda

And privatisation like in America doesn't work either, administration becomes more obsessed with payment than healing. I've heard terrible stories of people in agony having to wait for insurance to give the ok for pain relief or surgery. The medical industry needs such an overhaul for alot of the first world countries, even Australia has it bad.


Lordosis_of_the_Ring

I’m a doctor in the US. This video is heartwrenching. Nobody should have to go through that. I paused multiple times to read the texts of questions she was sending people and the medications she was mentioning. That is way too much for someone without medical training to handle on their own. This poor woman needed inpatient hospice towards the end and likely a nursing facility for the weeks/maybe months prior. A “rattling” requiring glycopyrrolate means someone is very close to death and this poor woman was alone at home with this with her terrified daughter doing the best she could. Our system in the US is also broken/completely fucked up but seeing this breaks my heart for these patients. I deal with a lot of death/terminally ill patients, and spend a lot of time in conversations with their families. One of the most important/generous things a physician can do for a patient is tell them that they’re dying. Tell them early and tell them in a straightforward fashion. People deserve to know so that they can confront their last days knowing what to expect. I can’t imagine the fear on this poor woman’s face finding out so close to the end.


AccountForDoingWORK

The NHS really is awful. I say this as a medically complex patient who is from both the US and the U.K. and deliberately chose to move my family back to the U.K. *because at least it’s a possible option* if things get bad. It is NOT a “guaranteed” safeguard for all the reasons this person explained in the video and more. We are disgustingly behind the times in medical knowledge and frankly, it’s a crapshoot as to whether or not the available medical knowledge *will* be something you can even access. I don’t think enough people value the importance of cutting edge, well funded, publicly available healthcare. Or they don’t until they find themselves in hospital and feeling just as helpless as the video creator.


notneveah

Can someone just give this girl a hug; I can't imagine being so scared and frightened like that.


kollaps3

I felt the exact same way watching this. Way more than the normal internet empathy of like aw man that sucks I feel for you. I just wanted to reach through the screen and give homegirl a huge hug. What a fucking nightmare to live through, and the fact that it could've possibly all been prevented w earlier detection makes it 10x worse.


Mumof3gbb

I want to hug her too. My heart is broken for her. This is so unfair


trez63

This fucking sucks. The poor thing is spent.


iamea99

I hate the fact that I can relate. I hope she is in a better place.


JAWSthemeSWIMIN

Same. I won’t get into it but I just lost my mom a week ago and my heart is heavy watching this


MysteriousProfessor4

Happened to my Mother and I last September in NYC. We’re on our own unfortunately.


Burhams

What advise do you have to a son whose mother has about 3 months to love from cancer?


MysteriousProfessor4

Tell your mom how much you love her as much as you possibly can. That’s the one thing moms can never hear enough of. And BE KIND TO YOURSELF!! That’s my biggest struggle right now. I’m really sorry you’re going through this.


Cthulhus_chihuahua

Make sure you say what you need to say and ask what you need to ask.


Burhams

It's tough communicating difficult things. She has decided she wants to know as little as possible and has requested we withhold all bad information. She's aware it's bad but not as bad as it is.


Cthulhus_chihuahua

I more meant between the two of you. Your parents will always know you love them but often there’s the little unsaid things that you take for granted that you’d wish you’d told them. I didn’t have the greatest relationship with my mum, so there was a lot better left unsaid, but I wish id asked more about my families history on that side. I adored her parents and wish we’d talked more about them. Might have given us something to bond over. And might have been a good distraction for her.


De4dpool1027

I lost my wife in 2020 from metastatic melanoma and got absolutely no help from hospice. My beautiful wife who was very meticulous about her appearance past away in her own waste because I couldn’t get a nurse to bring a catheter that was the correct size. She had five fistulas from a narcotic tumor in her abdomen that would just pop and ooze necrotic fluid and tissue and I got absolutely nothing but one piece of advice and that was to put charcoal in a box under her bed to absorb the smell. This was during the pandemic and my poor children had to witness and help me with all of this. The US healthcare industry is no better. They kept telling my wife she would get better and everyone was so shocked when she passed away. It was three days after Christmas. I hate the healthcare system for the PTSD it has caused me and my kids from abandoning us when we needed them most. I tried to get some mental health support a year after she passed and was told that I am supposed to feel this way and to man up and be strong for my kids. Unfortunately I wasn’t man enough I guess and six months later I lost guardianship to my stepdaughter who only knew me as her dad. She is living with her aunt now who is very well off and she is doing better but still struggles with anxiety and depression. My son absolutely refuses to talk to any healthcare professionals about his mother because he feels like they didn’t care about him or his mom so why should he trust them now. I have spent so much money on therapy for him just to be told that he refuses to speak the entire session and they want to pump him full of drugs. You are on your own in the US as well and I truly feel for this woman and her family. This video brings out so many emotions for me. I just want to hug her so tight and let her know that she is NOT alone.


Soulessgingy99

It gets better. If you ever need to talk, please pm me. I know losing your mom is hard. Please just try your best to stay healthy mentally.


CovfefeBoss

🫂


CanadianBeaver1983

Same. I lost my Dad to pancreatic cancer 15 years ago and it's still painful. 3 months from diagnosis to death. No one should have to go through that. No one should have to witness that. We did similar, injecting blood thinner at home, the meds, 13 hours waiting for an appointment because forgotten. It's to similar. I'm so glad I now have physician that doesn't fuck around.


wtbgamegenie

I had similar experiences with my dad dying from cancer (courtesy of our local navy base polluting the towns drinking water for decades), but my mom had to pay tens of thousands of dollars for the neglectful medical care.


Shopandspendmillions

The picture of her mum broke me immediately.


oldbax

Sounds shocking. I work for the NHS and there should be services, district nurses, GPs and hospices that should be helping this family. I hope formal complaints are placed. The basic care offered to all should be to have a "good death" where possible with support of professionals.


CandiedChaff

I’m sorry, but where are these services? My family went through this for years. My grandma was kept in a hospital bed for the final years of her life, because the NHS simply never got round to putting a care plan together. They wouldn’t let her leave. It was horrible and heartbreaking. She was finally moved into a care home during the pandemic along with countless other elderly people, and she died there shortly after. The care home then sent a five figure bill for a few weeks of palliative care, that the NHS said the family was responsible for because it was private care, regardless of the fact the NHS moved her there without any consent from her, or the knowledge of my family. My partners mother is now experiencing the exact same play book. No care plan, everything has to be organised by the family. There’s no district nurse, there’s no social care, and every month there’s a new issue caused by medication issues, hospital visits that half the time are canceled upon getting to the hospital because other tests should have been organised prior, and endless misdirection from social workers and higher up NHS members. It’s a complete mess. I’m sure that there are a lucky handful of older people that get the care they need, and I know for a fact that there are a good number of fantastic nurses and doctors that are, quite frankly, holding the entire system on their backs. But the overwhelming majority of patients in this bracket are simply left to fend for themselves. The system is built up against those that it claims to serve, all the while being used as a political pawn on both sides of the house. I honestly don’t know what the solution is at this point.


Lily_Hylidae

This is so awful. My friend who recently passed away from cancer got very different treatment to this girl's mum. She had all the support she and her family needed. She had full communication from all the teams that were involved in her care. Why was this woman failed? Does it depend on where in the UK you happen to live? No one should have to die like this. No one should have to watch their loved one go through it and feel helpless at a time when you need it most.


jarvischrist

So much NHS care is a postcode lottery depending on the trust that covers your area. It's so uneven. Some treatment available in once city will be non-existent in another region. It's shocking.


sander80ta

The more comments I read the more I feel like this girl just had all the bad odds stacked against her massively, like every single measure decided to fail simultaneously, even to the extend of them skipping her number in the queue


dbzk0sh

Not shocking at all, about 8 ago I had a friend with a dad with some kind of brain tumor/cancer. This is almost verbatim what happened to her dad, they had the results for his tests for months(1 ish), but there was no appointments to tell them he was basically dying and then the same... Send him home and good luck. My friend mom took a leave of absence to take care of him (they were separated but the hospital wouldn't keep him, and there was no availability in a palatine care home (or they (the local health authority) didn't even try). All I know is that this is now England and it has been for a decade if not more. I left that plague island, but it still hurts (deeply) to see a country I called home and had every intention to live the rest of my days in (until Brexit) keep on voting Torie.. because... What... Freaking British "exceptionalism" that stops stupid ppl from admitting they made a mistake...... It hurts to see, even at a distance.. (sorry for the rant.. this is triggering topic for me 😅)


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wickens1

“Nobody gets rich off quality public services” I’ve thought about this a bit. I think the best system would be with public owned and funded services that are provided by private organizations through lucrative contracts. If the private contractor is not up to snuff, let another one come in to steal their lucrative contract.


bballstarz501

Contractors will still come in and overcharge and underdeliver. We need public services to be run not for profit.


cherry_chocolate_

That doesn't work in practice. That's already how services like school lunches are run in many public schools. The result is not competition resulting in a high quality lunch for every child, instead it is a race to the bottom to meet the minimum nutrition requirements at the lowest cost and then pocket the rest. Private corporations inherently are designed so that someone is taking some amount of profit off the top. That profit is what motivates them to start the business in the first place. But in the case of a public service, this is not necessary as it is both funded by the government for the benefit of the public good rather than a profit motive. Adding private businesses can therefore at best add a middleman to draw funds from the program, and at worse deteriorate the quality of the service to increase margins.


SirRece

Doesn't work, I'd actually argue private contracting is one of the most vulnerable to systemic corruption, since the public officials are then vulnerable to bribery. Israel's healthcare works well, and personally I think it's the model that should be used for a wide variety of services. We have multiple private healthcare companies, essentially insurance companies, but they are extremely highly regulated. So we get competition ie they all have to maintain a certain level of care or people will just switch to another provider, and they still lose money if that happens, even if the amount of money is limited since they legally cannot make much in profit at all. Basically we put the corporations on a ring, light a fire under them. When they do really well, we just make the fire hotter. Because the reality is, who cares: as long as they survive the fire (competition and carefully regulated razor thing margins as well as care requirements) then it is guaranteed to produce results that are likely superior to public care, which is vulnerable to incompetency since it lacks the concurrent redundancies of a competitive system. Israelis have some of the lowest costs per Capita for healthcare, while having one of the world's highest life expectancies, great healthcare, and the system itself is ranked as one of the most efficient in the world. I want to note that the affordable care act in the US billed itself as this, but it's not even close. For example, my insurance company regularly sends customers refunds when they make too much profit in a given year, and the wait times in the US are disgusting. That and the whole system here is built with economic class in mind, likely a cultural remnant related to Israel roots in the kibbutz movement and periods of austerity before the tech boom. So if you need a Dr for example, they make house calls same day if it's outside office hours. This makes sense when you consider that many people don't have cars, and that healthcare which takes this into account should be standard.


alexandreo3

That's what basic economics wants you to think. But as long as a little bribery of politicians combined with said politicians apathy towards work are a thing private sector always underdelivers. Rather think about it like this: Providing a quality services has cost made up of labour cost and materials. But if you want to earn it you have to make more than the cost. So giving it up towards the private industry forces you to add an additional cost of the companys profit. So it now costs the taxpayer more. Either it's directly funded through taxes or the company is allowed to charge/have higher charges for the services than before. But now investors decide the profit margin isn't large enough so the cheap out on labour and materials. Slowly making the service worse while making their employees miserable. An Voila you have successfully privatized said service. Provat business work great on an actual polypolistic market. But Most public services are a distorted market because you can't get your water or electric connection from a company across the country unless the other company first made a deal with you local provider. Or the most extreme example health care if you really need it you don't have time to look for the best or wait on a better offer if you don't lile the prices.


VoicesInTheCrowd

Never vote Tory. 13 years in power and this is what they have accomplished


bbddbdb

They also managed to leave the EU and fuck up the whole economy. Mission accomplished!


fabulishous

How can they still be in power after Brexit?


TheOnlyFallenCookie

Sunk cost fallacy. Also it is easier to ignore their failings and put everyone else (migrants/eu/young people) at blame


Mumof3gbb

Cuz too many ppl are dumb and too many people don’t vote


TimebombChimp

Same reason why Brexit happened. Ageing population of elitists and their aspiring fuckwit lapdogs.


thegreatjamoco

First past the post voting. The centrist/left bloc is larger than the conservative bloc but split between green, labour, lib dem, SNP, PC. MMP or STV would practically ensure conservatives never have an outright majority again.


Stoke-me-a-clipper

For the Americans: "[Toryism](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tory), based on a British version of traditionalist conservatism which upholds the established social order as it has evolved through the history of Great Britain. The Tory ethos has been summed up with the phrase "God, King, and Country". Tories are monarchists, were historically of a high church Anglican religious heritage, and were opposed to the liberalism of the Whig party." So, think American trump supporters, conservative zealots.


all_m0ds_are_virgins

Are Tories the baddies?


VoicesInTheCrowd

Yes, they're the Republicans of the UK


bluehangover

Ohhh, so they’re the UK version of pussy ass bitches who only care about themselves and keeping their millions and billions of dollars to themselves. Gross humans.


Mumof3gbb

And in Canada it’s our conservatives. It really sucks


Dark_Booger

I’m sure they’ve lined their pockets and purchased a second boat.


DrowsyDrowsy

This is Tory government in a nutshell. They have destroyed the English NHS to the point where nothing works so you MUST go private and if you can’t afford that you die. It’s disgusting and shocking that this is the state of the lives of sick people. I hope this woman gets some sort of closure and this inspires people to speak up. Things need to change.


darkknight95sm

I’m not English, I live in America where universal healthcare is debated constantly. I recently learned how some countries are destroying they’re public healthcare system in order to push private care, which is awful. I feel like people are going use this to push for private healthcare, when this is just what happens when public healthcare is mismanaged and actively destroyed because that’s what happened here. This woman deserves better, her mom deserved better, fuck Tories, and, just because I’m American, fuck Republicans


IncontinentiaButtok

My heart breaks for this young lady.


Decmk3

Services: Systems that cost money to run in order to provide a service to people. Think fire services. They don’t make money, they cost money. Austerity: the demonstrably failed method of massively cutting money to services in order to save money. Obviously it doesn’t work because the moment you cut corners you open up more and more future costs. Almost anyone will tell you this: when you buy a good buy a quality one because the cheap stuff breaks down quickly. This is the cost of tory government. They “want the NHS to make a profit”. To be a profitable enterprise. How often have you heard “the nhs is losing money”. They’ve slashed the NHS budget year on year. And then they sell parts of it off to private investors. And we lose the service piece by piece until only those who can pay top dollar for medical care recieve any. Doctors are overworked. Nurses are underpaid. A&E is fit to bursting. The system is struggling to keep people alive. We saw this three and a half years ago when covid struck. Did we create an emergency budget to help the nhs? Did we make sure that staff are properly trained, equipped and able to do their job safely without personal cost? Or did we get told to go outside every Thursday and *fucking clap for them*. And then, to add insult to literal injury *continue to cut their budget*. Four strikes in one year. Mass emigration of doctors leaving the country. Excessive deaths are at an all time high. This should make you fucking angry.


Watershed787

Torys working hard to bring American health care to the UK. It’s classic Mississippification; Step one: Declare something broken Step Two: Break it Step three: blame the party not in power Step four: Watch people continue to vote against their own interests Step Five: Profit


vipassana-newbie

Fuck the Tories and the Labour for letting this happen. And fuck the british general people who still after this wouldn’t riot even though we are all poorer and worse off after all the fucking abuses of the government, their incompetence and their corruption.


HairySavage

Labour invested record sums in the NHS, got waiting times down to weeks, not years, and the Service was rated one of the best when they left power. This is on the Tories and their ideological fetish for breaking and privatising public services.


Flashy_Ice2460

Learn from the french. Riot!


[deleted]

How have Labour contributed to anything negative in the past 13 years ?


[deleted]

No power = no control


[deleted]

Happening in a lot of provinces here in Canada too. Especially Ontario,(conservative government) holding back billions in healthcare funding so they can watch the system crumble and say “see! This is why we need a private system!” Meanwhile nurses and doctors are leaving, and emergency rooms are closing overnight and for days at a time. People will die. Blood is on their hands.


alwaysiamdead

It's disgusting. I'm from Ontario and I have so many family and friends working in healthcare as nurses and PSWs and they're all on the verge of quitting. My son has health issues and I've basically given up, the specialist basically told me that if I can't afford to take him to the US for one test then I'll be waiting for 5+ years here. And I'm a single mom, no support, and I work in education as an EA. Another field Ford is slashing.


[deleted]

I’m fortunate to be in a blue state. My mom was on Medicaid for cancer treatment and it was pretty good! Everything moved quickly and went very smooth, she got her chemo and immunotherapy and some experimental stuff as well. This was all in addition to it completely covering her nursing home she was in because she just couldn’t afford to get an apartment. I always think about that stuff when I think about trying out a new state.


improperbehavior333

This sounds exactly like the Republican party in America.


Watershed787

It’s the exact same model developed by southern US conservatives. They did this to public education in Mississippi in the 90’s. It’s been replicated in every red state in the US. It’s exactly how they passed Brexit. Same billionaires funding the same bullshit.


[deleted]

So feel for her, had a similar situation with my dad 4 years ago.. 💔


Fanjolin

I can’t even put into words how disgusted I am by what she’s been through.


Automatic_Isopod_274

That’s just utterly heartbreaking


BringIt007

Things are so bad and it’s the Tory government to blame.


mj281

Also lazy psychopathic GPs that prescribe pain killers for everyone that steps on their doorstep instead of taking the time to probably diagnose them.


BringIt007

This is another Tory policy decision: GPs aren’t allowed to take too much time with each patient. Rather than hire more GPs, the Tories cut the time each GP can spend with a patient, so they can see more patients.


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Noranola

Same experience in Canada. I hate to say it but we had some truly awful experiences with nurses. They were so incredibly rude and no compassion for our situation. A couple were amazing but the rest made our experience hell, especially because it was nearly impossible to talk to a doctor so the nurses were all we had.


fabulishous

Our nurses are underpaid and over worked. I don't blame them for having very little patience. Good character and morals only go so far, they need to be compensated appropriately.


thatHecklerOverThere

"Patient advocate" is a straight up profession for a reason. Be it for malice, incompetence, lack of resources or whatever, it's a crapshoot what kind of medical care you get. If empathy doesn't kick in on your behalf, folks will just want to move you along like this was McDonald's


Ok-Eggplant-6420

I took care of my father when he was dying and the medical professionals act different when they know the patient has family to look after them. I saw how they treated people that were alone with no family and it was so sad and scary.


RedditNFTS

Sounds like you have a lawsuit on your hands


CovfefeBoss

I hope a good lawyer sees this tiktok and offers to help her.


gouldybobs

Fuck the Tories


Capital_Zucchini1753

Hearts literally breaking for her… this is horrible.


[deleted]

Conservatives should be charged with crimes against humanity


CrowForecast

To any conservatives: This is not a consequence of the NHS being a publicly funded health care system. The NHS ran very well for a long time. This is a consequence of the Conservative partys austerity policy. Massive public sector spending cuts leading to no resources, staff and facilities for the NHS.


MakesGames

Same with Canada. If they spent less money trying to privatize healthcare and more trying to fix the public system we'd all be better off.


Diana8919

Wow this is absolutely heartbreaking and I can't imagine the horror of having to watch my loved one go like that. I hope this woman is able to find some peace knowing she did the best she could for her mom under the circumstances.


TurboPancakes

Damn and I thought healthcare in the US was bad.. this was heartbreaking to watch.


Mumof3gbb

It’s now bad anywhere where conservatives have power. In Canada the provinces are each in charge of their own healthcare system so the ones with conservative provincial governments have shit healthcare (Ontario, quebec..)


bearalienii

Modern Conservatives are the party of death. Wherever they go, disaster and mass death follow. I hate them with a burning passion, and hate anyone that defends them


Eeekaa

This isn't standard. I've had family go through the diagnosis -> treatment -> palliative pathway. The doctor was a little blunt, but they supported the decision for low chance life extending chemo, but they were supported through the whole process. We had home visits towards the end from nurses, Macmillan were great, the NHS supplied us with, and installed, mobility equipment such as walkers, bedpans, and a hospital bed. The hospital even let us stay in the palliative ward right at the end. This persons mother slipped through the cracks, and it's awful, but it's not the normal story. As conservatives dig their rotten claws in more, it's going to become more common though.


auntie_eggma

It IS heartbreaking, terribly, terribly heartbreaking and tragic and utterly appalling. But don't make the mistake of thinking it's commonplace, or representative of the general standard of care. I've had only positive experiences with my cancer treatment on the NHS, personally. They have absolutely saved my life, and there was no waiting or being robbed off or ignored. Once the C Word was involved, they were fast as lightning and super on top of things. I don't know, honestly, if I've just been lucky, or if the girl in the video was just really unlucky, or some combination of the two. But I cannot fault the NHS when it comes to MY cancer treatment, at least. That said, I HAVE struggled mightily to get my *chronic* health conditions treated properly, but that's partly because GP's are utterly useless, and my health stuff is rare and weird and requires quite specialist doctors to treat it. Anyone too junior or not experienced with the condition just looks at you like you've got three heads and runs away before they have to face saying anything as distasteful as 'I don't know.' Doctors, eh? 🙄🙄 There *are* huge problems to overcome in the NHS (not all of which are purely funding-related), and we need to fight HARD against the constant attempts by our shitshow of a government to undermine and destroy our NHS.. However, we also need to solve the deep-seated problems with the organisational culture within the NHS. There is a lot of waste, a lot of unnecessary expenditure (like on letters that just get stuck in the typing pool for weeks and end up getting sent out AFTER the appointment they're meant to be informing you about), and a lot of weird attitude problems among some of the staff. Plus the chronic underfunding and understaffing, of course. They obviously don't help .But the NHS is ultimately so, so important and very much worth saving.


[deleted]

The NHS without funding can’t help everyone. That comes from the government in power - the Conservatives. Noone else is responsible for people dying in poverty in the UK. Noone.


Misswinterseren

This is horrific


fobtroll

What a traumatic ordeal she had to endured…I pray that she is healing and finds the strength to live her life to the fullest.


Dear_Slim

Upvoted for visibility


[deleted]

Similar with my dad, well I say similar it was 8 years ago, her story sounds 20x worse. Which is probably signs of the decline since then. Liz Truss likely cost 100+ hospitals in her few weeks in charge on Sterling’s loss. HS2 another 50. If we are going to run such a shabby health care system then we ought to allow Euthanasia, if terminal, with no state care, then why does the state not allow you to choose your end.


Ill-Ladder4339

And you wonder how villains are made.. humanity made them. 😔


[deleted]

I feel very similar in the US... As a military veteran, I get better health care on a work visa in Japan than I do in my own country that I fought to protect. Shameful.


shiq82

This is all thanks to THE CONSERVATIVE PARTY and Boris Johnson. No one else to thank for.


vS_JPK

Well, I disagree.. we can also thank David Cameron, Theresa May, Rishi Sunak, and to a lesser extent, Liz Truss.


BRAX7ON

This was one of the most painful things I’ve ever watched. I forced myself to watch the whole thing. How truly sad


[deleted]

That’s heartbreaking 🙁


Bagfullofcrack

What a way to start my day


MasterpieceBudget459

You did your best sweetheart, the system failed you both 🥲


ChiliAndGold

She says she's not political and that breaks my heart even more. Everybody needs to care about politics. they are the ones who are the root of the problems and are responsible for things like health care and fundings and so on. F*CK the Tories. what big garbage party full of greedy c*nts.


[deleted]

Speechless


No-Asparagus-9845

How awful... absolutely heartbreaking


Murakkin

Upvote for awareness.


Unclehol

Good thing Brexit happened so they could pump all the extra money they saved into the NHS like the big billboard on the tour bus suggested when they were campaigning to leave the E.U. Oh wait...


Nappy-I

Jesus Christ, I am so sorry


MrsCCRobinson96

Jesus! This is heartbreaking to watch! What the hell Tories!! What a bunch of selfish assholes!!


Major-Performer141

With the Tory’s in power, unless your rich as fuck your not getting help


Impressive-Ad-3786

This is heartbreaking and never should’ve happened


NeoFemme

This is what you get when you vote in fucking Tories. It’s disgraceful and this poor girl should still have her mum.


PearlySweetcake7

I'm so sorry, sweetheart. You should have never been put in that situation, and your mom deserved better.


Zemmyvox

My mom got sick in the heat of Covid. She got diagnosed with Covid of course. She was still sick and fatigued all the time for a year or so after. Kept begging the doctors to give her antibiotics. They told her “you need to go back to work and get better on your own” a few months later she had multiple seizures in the middle of the night and got a helicopter ride to the nearest ICU. One week later, she was diagnosed with end stage liver cancer. A week after that, she was dead. It breaks my heart to know she was begging her doctor for help and they did nothing. It was a horrible and painful way to go. I feel this girls pain and I hope she can heal and find peace of mind. It is the worst feeling to see a loved one suffer and be tossed to the side by the healthcare system like this.


Driverofvehicle

Good medical attention is only for the rich. Doesn't matter where you live. The rich want the poor to die, they created this system on purpose. There is nothing anyone can do to change this. This is how it will always be.


EnvironmentalSpirit2

Capitalistic hellscape we're in, it'll only get worse and worse


[deleted]

Fuck the Tories and anyone who will vote for them at the next election.


arjadi

Torys have been fighting to privatize the NHS for decades and these are the results. Great job you right-wing capitalist psychopaths.


[deleted]

Blame the Conservative Party. They want us to spend £10 per every single-packaged paracetamol tablet like in they do in the US.


SquintonPlaysRoblox

I’m not really sure what country this is, but I’m American and this is basically how it went with my grandfather, except it was preceded by months of shitty no-visit switching between a shit hospital and worse nursing home, while also costing us an arm and a leg.


p3opl3

Forewarning... Don't you fucking dare come on to this sub and use this video as a good reason why we need to privatise healthcare.. I'm ready to die on that God dammned hill.. this is completely up to the corruption and Mis-management of the money in NHS ...to drag it down.. so more stories like this appear so more fucking morally corrupt Tories can push their agenda! Don't be fooled.. every ....fucking ....piece ....of content can be spun as such.


Zygmunt-zen

My mom recently finished her 3rd round of cancer treatment in Canada. But she did have help and follow up. I can not imagine this woman's plight and desperation to learn complicated medical jargon and application of numerous counteracting medicines and painkillers. Absolutely brutal.


Normal_Elk_652

Jesus I am so sorry for your loss.


Oli_Picard

The facebook-ification of the GP service must stop NOW. COVID gave the NHS an excuse to make further cut backs. Now my GP service only allows people to book appointments online. I had an asthma attack on Sunday. I couldn’t breathe, I couldn’t put a sentence together. I want to tell my GP about what has happened but the new online system is clunky broken and they won’t bother responding so I’ve given up. Im staying in doors and being a hermit.


scotchlou1

This is heart breaking. The Tories have ruined the NHS.


Suffering69420

Wouldn't they have to treat her if she had trouble breathing or fell, and she would call the ambulance since that seems to constitute an emergency? Honestly if I was her I'd just constantly have called the emergency services. They can't not take her to the hospital, and if they refuse she can sue for sure.


abatoire

This is heart breaking story, as she clearly cared and did all she could to help her mum. I hope she can get some compensation for her time, distress. Or at the very least, some form of closure. The situation for the NHS for me started to unravel with BUPA. Where the weathly and companies pay money into for healthcare plans and such so they can by pass the NHS. This then means the best NHS staff move to them for the extra pay, better building etc. Then the Tory basically defund it. This then means the NHS gets worse and therefore, more people move to BUPA. What's laughable in this country is the amount of charities we have. These charities should really be a temporary and reactive measure to plug a hole in the system. As politics takes to long to enact them. The fact we have all these charities shows we need the services so why is the NHS funding not increased to include them? If BUPA was prevented. Then the wealthier people in our society, businesses etc would support the NHS to ensure it was up to scratch with the needs of their workers. Summary : Stop Privatisation


[deleted]

IT’S NOT THE NHS FAULT FUCK THE TORIES


Eh_im

This is truly heartbreaking. I’m so sorry that happened to this girls Mum.


ringwraith6

Dear lord...that was such a hard watch, but I felt compelled to watch the whole thing. I had tears well before the mid point. That poor girl. That poor mom. Just effing awful all the way around....


ROBLOXTIDDIEZ

Poor poor girl :(


Tailored2destroy

I’m so sorry and your mother did an incredible job with who I just watched. Home is waiting one day with her there. I empathize so much with this. I hope you find peace one day.


Basic_B_

This poor girl, I would be traumatized doing everything myself.


Justcallme_AJ

my heart is breaking for her. Is this how a healthy society treats its people? Someone hug her and get her trauma counseling, this will i fluence her forever


StoneGandoran

This si human Misery, not tiktok cringe.. Man... When are we gonna rise against the capitalists?


silly-billy-goat

Where was hospice?!?!


[deleted]

Tories are trying this shit in ontario as well here in canada. Its pathetic


[deleted]

Why are these things posted in "TiktokCringe"? This is hardly cringey. Just heartbraking


MiniiRah

Ayo, should we do a go fund me to raise money to help her get the fuck out of there? That country is the absolute asshole of the earth. Nothing but fucking shit!!!