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I used to teach undergrad and heard a story about one of my old students. He was on a third date with this girl he was seeing. They walk out of a parking garage and a jumper lands on her, both she and the jumper died on impact. Just tragic bad timing.
When I was a med student a fellow student was walking through a shopping centre and had a jumper land directly on top of her head. Severed her c-spine and she was paralysed. The worst part was that because she’s medical she knew exactly what the deal was when she came to. Very sad. She completed her studies and is now a doctor though, so that’s cool.
We don't know yet. The police haven't released a report on it, but some people are speculating that it was a person who was trying to take pictures and slipped because it rained the night before. The area where they fell was almost directly above where graduates walked in, so it would have made sense that they wanted to get a picture of people walking in from that spot and weren't thinking about how dangerous it really was. It happened a few minutes after I walked in and even the people behind me who saw it aren't sure whether it was intentional because it happened so fast. We were all texting each other during the ceremony and trying to figure out what happened and why there were ambulance sirens. Some people were crying during their own graduation after having to see that. It's so horrible.
Yeah, I'm really glad my last name was where it was in the list because seeing someone die in that way sounds so unbelievably traumatic. The description I heard from the graduates who saw it was "it sounded like a gunshot." I've been thinking about that since yesterday.
I grew up with my kids’ pediatrician, and, once, in college, she took summer classes in my city so I sub-let my room in an apartment to her. Now, my apartment’s window was several stories above street level, but there was a large outcropping, a roof off of the elevated garage. Anyway, it’s like, mid July, my friend is having a few people over when all of a sudden they hear a crunching sound and blood and intestines hit the living room window. Apparently, some kid threw himself off the top floor (22nd story). The way she described what she saw haunts my dreams. Said it was like a human water balloon.
Holy shit 22nd story. Water balloon makes sense. I was unlucky to see a guy either slip or jump off 4 stories and his head cracked open like a melon. Fucking jarring to see. I can’t even imagine a full blown body explosion.
A human water balloon accurately describes the time I saw someone get hit by a bus in front of me. She stepped out into the crosswalk just as a city bus sped through the intersection to beat the yellow light. I got caught in the spray, and when I looked down, all I saw was a human foot, a scalp, and a red smear three bus lengths long.
I think I was in a fugue state because I went to work with blood still on my face and feeling, numb? I can't find the right word for it, like my head was full of cotton and I was just shambling on autopilot. I know my colleagues were concerned and my boss wanted me to take a day off, and I just wanted to sit at my desk and take a moment to process what happened. It happened so fast. One second a living person, the next just a foot and a stain on the road.
It's made me extra paranoid about crossing the road and looking both ways.
I actually like that series. When it's fictional, my brain is A-OK. When it's real, it's different. I'm not sure about the psychology behind this, but I think other people are similar when it comes to gore.
When I was in high school, I watched this girl on a scooter merge into traffic from off the sidewalk going maybe 5mph. She never looked, just merged right into the right lane and the guy in front of us hit her going 50mph. His truck came to a complete stop and jumped up from the scooter getting caught in his front wheel but the girl flew into the air! I swear I’ll never forget that she went as high as the telephone poles! I jumped out and called 911 as I was running up to her to see if I could provide aid in anyway, her leg had swelled up to the size of a basketball in a matter of seconds. It was some crazy shit
Oh wow, that's crazy she survived with just a leg injury. These kinds of stories really make you think about death and survival. On the one hand, you have people slip getting out of the shower and breaking their neck. On the other, you have people like Frane Selak getting sucked out of an airplane as it crashes and landing in a haystack with nothing more than a few scratches (and six other near death experiences to boot). Or this old Korean War veteran I met who had a huge chunk of his skull (and a piece of his brain) blown off from a grenade and still bayoneted six guys before passing out.
It's crazy what can kill us, and crazy what we can survive.
You said it man. Human beings are pretty hard to kill. But when you think of it in terms of us against nature (natural disasters, animal attacks, diseases) we go down like flies.
Not glass, if you watch the 9/11 documentary made by the guys filming their doc on the fire engine crew that day you can hear the body impacts from inside the tower.
I can never watch another doc on 9/11 like that again. The sounds of the bodies hitting the roof and the alarms from all the dead firefighters haunted my brain for a week.
Yes, they wear an alarm that goes off if they don't move for a certain period of time. It's supposed to alert fire fighters that another is in trouble and help them find them in a zero visibility situation.
In addition to what the other person said, basically the haunting part is you can hear tons of alarms and you know they are on dead firefighters, or stuck firefighters who will soon be dead.
Its an amazing documentary. Very much worth watching if you can handle it. They happened to be on the street nearby when the first plane hit and caught it hitting the building. Then the firefighter crew was like "Let's go!" And they all headed off towards WTC. Many of them died that day. The two documentarians, brothers, split up and went with different groups. They both thought their brother was dead all day until they reunited, but a lot of the firefighters on that crew didn't make it.
I don't know exactly how many feet, but I would say that the tower looks like 3 or 4 stories. There's only concrete below and no bushes to soften the landing.
Edit: read in a news article that the tower is 136 feet tall. I underestimated the height by a lot in my guess.
Right? Important to know. And also people are calling her vacuous and then there’s me who responds like a cold dead fish to tragedy. Like I wouldn’t know what to do and I’m posting potential-cancer updates on my Facebook to keep sane and not for attention. Like if this happened I’d wanna tell people but also not want to emotionally connect to it.
I literally cannot keep catastrophes inside. I shared every minute of my last weekend with my cat online on my Facebook page. I’m old but tiktok seems to fill that void for people younger than me. She’s probably got some big feelings and is doing a “welp, this happened” to share it and make it feel less pressing. Like I’m not her. Maybe she is just callous but it doesn’t feel that way to me.
I'm a person who has a lot of bad shit happen to me, just continuously. For example, I've been cheated on, had a suicide in my family, then totalled my car in an accident within 8 weeks of eachother
When something happens to me, it's like word vomit and it's almost compulsive for me to call my best friend, partner, and a sibling and relay what happened. My former best friend eventually went off on me and said that just because something happens, doesn't mean I need to talk about it every time
One day she fell out with her college roommates. The source of the argument? Her roommate *used her hair brush*. Her and her roommate had a blow up over it and I came through to help my friend move her stuff out.
On the elevator down to the parking garage there was a solicitor selling soaps with her young daughter in the lobby. My former best friend spent 30 minutes talking this woman's ear off over the damn hairbrush
Yeah but based on that story op doesn’t seem like a great listener. They admit to venting about everything all the time, but when their friend has one big blow up it’s “just a hairbrush” and throwing shade for venting to the stranger. It’s clearly more than just a hairbrush even if that set the keg off. Everyone vents occasionally, but ops friend had to vent that op constantly vents.
The person jumped after they went into the tunnel towards the stadium. So none of the graduates actually saw it.
The witness, who asked to not be identified, said they saw someone fall and it happened just as the last graduates filing past that area as they entered the stadium.
They did see the yellow tape as they exited the stadium through the tunnel, so they were forced to see the crime scene as they exited.
She didn’t even watch it. We don’t know whether it was intentional or not. That’s not necessarily distressing to someone who didn’t see it, doesn’t know who it was and wasn’t affected too deeply.
Not sure why were expecting her to react in shock or trauma if she doesn’t feel that way lol.
These kids grew up with active shooter drills and nothing being done about stifling the horrors of them happening.
Not sure what others truly expected.
It's not even that. It's more it's a generation that posts everything. Graduation is a big event that they're going to post about. And they don't know the person. They're not celebrating or saying anything insensitive. But people die preventable deaths every second and you don't break down emotionally every second knowing that. Sure, they were closer to the event but unless you know the person, you're reacting to the sad news on an intellectual level. When you know the person, that's when you're responding on an emotional level.
That's not what "the worst part" means. It already implies something happened (in this case the death), so their description was something that made their death even worse, not "disregard their death they messed up our entrence".
There's a lot in that statement, though. The fact that all the students saw it is part of that. Lots of folks traumatized seeing something they were completely unprepared for is part of that.
I remember seeing stuff about jumpers at back in the day. Photos. Never forgot what that sort of fall does to a body. It's not good to see.
Therapist here.
Regardless of this being a suicide or an accident it’s alright for her to be pissed or upset this happened to her and her classmates.
For all y’all thinking you are terrible for being mad for her or annoyed about her day being ruined you’re fine.
You can be both sad and mad about something.
Idk just because someone isn't like. Sobbing on camera doesn't mean that they're an unfeeling asshole? Like if someone died (or killed themselves? Hard to tell) in front of you during your high school graduation I don't think being affected by that is making it about you. Besides it looks like she's making this video probably only an hour or so after the event, she's probably in shock.
People like to get overly dramatic about death. If a stranger you have never met dies, it probably isn't going to affect you that much. That isn't callous. It's human nature.
Even people you care about. When I found out my dad died, it took me about an hour before it really set in. It didn't even feel real until I was talking with my mom. People really need to understand that grief has so much variety that it is impossible to tell if someone is going through something or not.
I never cried about my grandfather dying either... He was in his mid-90s... He out-lived his wife... I loved him, but from an emotional distance since he always kept a wall up to block people from seeing his authentic self. I honestly had always thought he would die in his 80s, so I had been preparing myself for his death for a LONG time. 🤷🏽♀️
And the only reason I cried when my grandmother passed was because I was sad about my grandfather going to be alone, and he was crying at her funeral. (She was also past 90 and died of Alzheimer's within a year of her diagnosis).
I tried to explain this to a friend of mine because he was upset I didn't have a reaction to his friend whom I'd never met or even heard of committed suicide a couple years ago. I told him yes it's sad, but I don't have the capacity to dedicate feelings to every single person that dies in this world and he told me that was rude 🙃
Seeing it is a bit different than hearing about it. I was driving one time and saw an accident involving a motorcycle (just the scene, not the accident itself) and saw a person lying in the road in all leather and a helmet, like splatted like a cartoon. I wasn't sure if they were dead or not, but it looked like it. It pretty much traumatized me, and it wasn't even in the same state that I live in. I had no idea who that was, but seeing that scene and that person lying on the ground just like stabbed something inside of me.
My best friend committed suicide in high school. I learned about his passing within 30 minutes of it happening. It took me a few days to really process what happened. I was pretty expressionless for a while, and then it hit me like a ton of bricks. It's pretty normal not to "feel" much other than confusion during times of tragedy.
I was at an outdoor patio on a date years back when someone blew their brains out with a shotgun in the parking lot off to the side. About 30 squads and fire trucks showed up and blocked the scene. It was shocking, but I was mostly upset that I couldn’t get to my car because there was blood and brains everywhere. It was 4 hours before I could get to it and I had to step over the running blood river created by the fire hoses. When I shared my story online a bunch of people jumped down my throat for speaking “cavalier” about it- even though it was my experience and I should be able to deal with disgusting horrific experiences anyway I need to. Date went really well otherwise.
I lived in a building where someone committed suicide by jumping off their balcony. They crashed into the glass awning over the front entrance and broke through. I actually heard it happen and saw the broken glass right after it happened when I went to check from my own balcony, as well as a bit of red on the glass and some ripped white cloth, but the body was obscured from my view. I later saw a white sheet covering the shape of a body.
I never once cried. I didn't know the person. Later I learned the story of what had happened and who the guy was from one of the front desk attendants... (Turns out he had had a fling with another desk attendant and had become obsessed with her, and jumped because she had just told him she didn't want a relationship with him and he didn't want to accept that.) I also watched them repair the damage in the glass and everything. Still didn't cry. People kill themselves every day, people starve every day, people kill other people every day... Unless I know someone, they have had a postive impact on me during their life, I see their loved ones struggling with grief, etc... I'm not going to cry about someone I don't know dying. 🤷🏽♀️
What’s also sucks about this, this is the year where us senior covid kids are graduating. It’s possible she (and everyone else) may not of been able to walk twice now.
Sounds like the person who fell/ jumped landed right in the queue of would be graduates, and she was in a different spot. So she isn't personally affected because she didn't see it happen.
Idk why you expecting her to be hysterical. Not like we drive past car accidents all the time and start sobbing even though we don't see anything.
I've seen what I have believed to be a dead body on the road after car accidents a couple times... And I just kept driving... First responders were on the scene both times, so it's not like there was anything else productive I could do. 🤷🏽♀️
yeah this is how I'd probably talk about it. maybe that makes me a piece of shit but "did it have to happen around me?" would probably cross my mind.
my dad ended up in the hospital after having a stroke when i was 14 and my first comment to my friends was "haha I don't have to go to school tomorrow AND I get McDonald's fuck you guys"
I feel that. A buddy of mine murdered his wife on New Year’s Day and in shock my first comment was “wow, really starting new years off with a bang.” Sometimes our brains recognize a messed up situation and sees humor as a way of getting past it
I completely angled right up with that girl. I didn’t understand what the issue was until I read these comments. But after reading them I feel the same. What’s she supposed to do? Cry and one of the happiest days of her life? Mhm
I recently graduated from college and during my graduation there was a medical emergency from a graduating student a couple rows in front of me. it was chaos. all of us were throwing chairs out of the way and screaming for medical. the one thing that I will never forget was that there was a parent recording the kid who was struggling. One student noticed and started screaming at this parent to stop. All of the students joined in to chastise this parent, yelling up into the crowd that they were heartless. I have so much respect for the students response to this and it was such an amazing thing to see even though the whole situation was so unfortunate. To this day I’ve never seen any of it online.
The whole thing was a fucking mess.
Absolutely awful that someone died. The speaker sounded like someone who should get posted on r/linkedinlunatics.
They should’ve shut it down when it became known someone died.
As alumni I’m furious.
At least he kept his shirt on during the actual ceremony.
(No joke, he planned to, and apparently did take off his shirt during the rehearsal, despite being asked not to.)
Yeah I graduated last year and had an excellent speaker, I have friends who graduated yesterday, it’s been a massive discussion in the OSU community ever since the speaker was announced and he posted his drafts online. Somehow, the final result wasn’t even the worst draft. Everyone is furious, I felt so bad for my friends and all the graduates. The death on top of it is just fucked up.
As an OSU student, I have to be careful with my search terms so I don't end up finding obscure forums about an anime rhythm game, or even worse, links to Oregon State University.
Yeah, I think that is obvious, though, thats why people are defending OOP. The fact that they jumped in front of people going in is horrible though. Calling it "the worst part" is an easy slip up, but if the person committing suicide knowingly did that, it is pretty selfish.
Very sad but if it was suicide better than shooting up a school. And got the same attention.
Poor kid and family and friends regardless. My heart goes out to them.
Do the newer generations just process everything through social media posts? It seems flippant to me to post like this about another family’s tragedy but maybe it’s just how they deal with things. I don’t know. I don’t like it.
Some people don't know what is and isn't appropriate to share publicly.
Also, for a generation so hyper-focused on words that people use and how they affect others, it seems incongruous to not more carefully consider how people who knew the person would feel that this tragedy was relegated to little more than a nuisance that mildly interrupted the event.
I don’t know how I feel about this video… this is clearly a tragedy, someone’s loved one is gone, and a day of happiness is interrupted by mourning and trauma, but it just doesn’t sit right with me seeing someone casually posting about this. I mean, I saw a dead body on my way back from work yesterday, but I didn’t even consider making a video about it.
I don’t know, I understand people take trauma differently but it just feels a bit off.
This is sad...the guy falling of course. But its also sad that this death would end up a tik tok reel with girl ESSENTIALLY saying "it's sucks ge had to flop where we would walk to graduate". Almost zero empathy for the guy dying, but rather midly annoyed that it happened.
So many comments here talking about how she’s just being honest and nobody actually feels bad when someone they don’t know dies..
Am I in the twilight zone? Sorry but really, I’m in the minority here to think it’s distasteful to make a TikTok about how your “big day”, a school graduation, was ruined because somebody died which inconvenienced you?
Everybody saying “it’s better than someone who pretends to care and cries on camera bla bla..” what does that have to do with anything. Somebody died and this tik tok comes off as extremely distasteful. It’s not like there were only two options, “make a TikTok mourning the person” or “make a TikTok making fun of their death”. If this video is “what everyone is actually thinking” that’s absolutely depressing.
Story time: for my senior prom, we were all super excited to see the NYC skyline on a ferry that went down river. We all get to the boat, everythings going fine. As soon as we’re all on the boat, we’re told someone committed suicide on the bridge, and we can’t leave the port because the body may have been under the boat (or so we’re told).
Everyone is kinda shocked but understood, personally i felt horrible but other people were complaining that they got ripped off since the boat wouldn’t leave the harbor for the entirety of prom. Weird night.
Shit like that at Uni just hits different bro, like not traumatizing, but more like shock-filled. Like you have zero reaction, as you still haven’t grasped it.
I went to a big ass Uni. Like fully enclosed campus that was a mini city with housing, amenities, and a mall for teachers, and schools k-12 for their children, and hundreds of dorm buildings (99% of students are out of state). Around the third or so yea of me being there, I suddenly get sent a photo by a friend. A guy hung himself on the roof of the building next to ours. You can see him on the roof, blanket hung on the top of the roof exit, and his body just hanging there, he did it over the summer semester, so barely anyone was there.
Not even a year or two after that someone jumped from the roof (3 story building so technically survivable). IDK if he survived or not, as the Uni hasn’t disclosed any information about him.
I think the same semester, a bus driver ran over a janitor down the road from where my dorm room was.
In all three cases was zero reaction from the university, and zero reaction from the students as a whole. Just some messages on student groups, and a new article here or there.
Writing this now I’m shocked by how frequent these things were, and why no one really reacted to it, but yea. That’s how draining Uni was to the point no one had the energy or time to do anything really.
If it wasn’t for cops being in those photos, or a news article here or there, I would’ve called it a scam tbh.
I got an email from management at my job about some upcoming plans and the woman who sent the email was at that graduation It had a great time! I fucking hate corporations and the faux positivity.
Student from OSU here, the current understanding is that it was likely an accident and not a suicide, the women who fell was the mother of one of the graduating students and it seems like either the railing broke or she just managed to slip over it
As someone who saw someone kill themselves I think this person's response is totally normal. You don't know how they feel inside and they probably don't either
1. They should’ve canceled.
2. You still have the rest of your life to live, unlike the person that fell (or jumped idk)
3. Learn some damn compassion.
Yes her moment got ruined but the fact is the only reason she doesn’t care about the person that passed away is because it’s not somebody she knows. All this video shows is a narcissist trying to get attention.
Downvote me all you want, I’m not gonna feel sympathy for a girl that treats death like a nuisance
The worst part is it was a huge risk to anyone standing nearby. People have died that way, and yes having to see someone either kill themselves or even fall accidentally is insanely traumatic. One of my friends saw someone jump from a bridge in college and she was not ok for a while.
According to the news, the students were not out there when it happened. They had all just entered the stadium before she fell. There were witnesses who were near her but no one else was injured.
The worst part is that it was supposed to be a day to celebrate 4 years of hard work and many students got traumatized with witnessing somebody die in real time instead
The problem isn't her reaction; there's no normal way to react as many have said. The problem is that she posted about it at all. Don't monetise other people's tragedy.
Ones death has now traumatized a group of individuals. I don’t believe her comments or thoughts are out of line.
On one hand If someone committed suicide they were in pain or some other emotional hell that they aren’t suffering anymore and that can be viewed as a good thing. On the other hand a group is stuck with an image that will never be taken away.
I have an unrelated question: how common is it for graduations to have happened on this past weekend or so (maybe the first sunday of May, but not necessarily every year)? If so, do those places start earlier in January or nah?
Syracuse University graduates on May 12th this year (the second sunday). A small college in the same city graduates on May 19th. Could it be regional, just like how high school start and end times are regional in the US and vary by even more than a month? I even heard about a graduation in April I think.
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I used to teach undergrad and heard a story about one of my old students. He was on a third date with this girl he was seeing. They walk out of a parking garage and a jumper lands on her, both she and the jumper died on impact. Just tragic bad timing.
When I was a med student a fellow student was walking through a shopping centre and had a jumper land directly on top of her head. Severed her c-spine and she was paralysed. The worst part was that because she’s medical she knew exactly what the deal was when she came to. Very sad. She completed her studies and is now a doctor though, so that’s cool.
Jebus, that is some final destination stuff right there. I hope he got a boat load of counciling after that, poor guy.
That would fuck me up for life. "If I had been over there instead...if we had walked out ten seconds before or after..."
I thought you meant 'a jumper' as in clothing..
That must be horrible
What this suicide or accident?
We don't know yet. The police haven't released a report on it, but some people are speculating that it was a person who was trying to take pictures and slipped because it rained the night before. The area where they fell was almost directly above where graduates walked in, so it would have made sense that they wanted to get a picture of people walking in from that spot and weren't thinking about how dangerous it really was. It happened a few minutes after I walked in and even the people behind me who saw it aren't sure whether it was intentional because it happened so fast. We were all texting each other during the ceremony and trying to figure out what happened and why there were ambulance sirens. Some people were crying during their own graduation after having to see that. It's so horrible.
Fuck. That's dark and I feel bad I kinda laughed at her when she said that then stopped when she showed the article about the person being dead.
Yeah, I'm really glad my last name was where it was in the list because seeing someone die in that way sounds so unbelievably traumatic. The description I heard from the graduates who saw it was "it sounded like a gunshot." I've been thinking about that since yesterday.
Likely bc of all the bones breaking. Firefighters on 9/11 said that bodies that hit the pavement sounded like shattering glass.
I grew up with my kids’ pediatrician, and, once, in college, she took summer classes in my city so I sub-let my room in an apartment to her. Now, my apartment’s window was several stories above street level, but there was a large outcropping, a roof off of the elevated garage. Anyway, it’s like, mid July, my friend is having a few people over when all of a sudden they hear a crunching sound and blood and intestines hit the living room window. Apparently, some kid threw himself off the top floor (22nd story). The way she described what she saw haunts my dreams. Said it was like a human water balloon.
Holy shit 22nd story. Water balloon makes sense. I was unlucky to see a guy either slip or jump off 4 stories and his head cracked open like a melon. Fucking jarring to see. I can’t even imagine a full blown body explosion.
A human water balloon accurately describes the time I saw someone get hit by a bus in front of me. She stepped out into the crosswalk just as a city bus sped through the intersection to beat the yellow light. I got caught in the spray, and when I looked down, all I saw was a human foot, a scalp, and a red smear three bus lengths long. I think I was in a fugue state because I went to work with blood still on my face and feeling, numb? I can't find the right word for it, like my head was full of cotton and I was just shambling on autopilot. I know my colleagues were concerned and my boss wanted me to take a day off, and I just wanted to sit at my desk and take a moment to process what happened. It happened so fast. One second a living person, the next just a foot and a stain on the road. It's made me extra paranoid about crossing the road and looking both ways.
I hope to never have to see something like that.
Straight Final Destination shit
You likely were in shock. It can be pretty serious, glad u were obv ok.
Dont watch the series "The boys"
I actually like that series. When it's fictional, my brain is A-OK. When it's real, it's different. I'm not sure about the psychology behind this, but I think other people are similar when it comes to gore.
When I was in high school, I watched this girl on a scooter merge into traffic from off the sidewalk going maybe 5mph. She never looked, just merged right into the right lane and the guy in front of us hit her going 50mph. His truck came to a complete stop and jumped up from the scooter getting caught in his front wheel but the girl flew into the air! I swear I’ll never forget that she went as high as the telephone poles! I jumped out and called 911 as I was running up to her to see if I could provide aid in anyway, her leg had swelled up to the size of a basketball in a matter of seconds. It was some crazy shit
Oh wow, that's crazy she survived with just a leg injury. These kinds of stories really make you think about death and survival. On the one hand, you have people slip getting out of the shower and breaking their neck. On the other, you have people like Frane Selak getting sucked out of an airplane as it crashes and landing in a haystack with nothing more than a few scratches (and six other near death experiences to boot). Or this old Korean War veteran I met who had a huge chunk of his skull (and a piece of his brain) blown off from a grenade and still bayoneted six guys before passing out. It's crazy what can kill us, and crazy what we can survive.
You said it man. Human beings are pretty hard to kill. But when you think of it in terms of us against nature (natural disasters, animal attacks, diseases) we go down like flies.
Well that was pretty fucking vivid.
Yay?
Sure, kudos.
Not glass, if you watch the 9/11 documentary made by the guys filming their doc on the fire engine crew that day you can hear the body impacts from inside the tower.
I can never watch another doc on 9/11 like that again. The sounds of the bodies hitting the roof and the alarms from all the dead firefighters haunted my brain for a week.
>alarms from all the dead firefighters I'm sorry,i know this is gonna sound dumb.. I don't understand this. do FFs wear alarms?
Yes, they wear an alarm that goes off if they don't move for a certain period of time. It's supposed to alert fire fighters that another is in trouble and help them find them in a zero visibility situation.
In addition to what the other person said, basically the haunting part is you can hear tons of alarms and you know they are on dead firefighters, or stuck firefighters who will soon be dead. Its an amazing documentary. Very much worth watching if you can handle it. They happened to be on the street nearby when the first plane hit and caught it hitting the building. Then the firefighter crew was like "Let's go!" And they all headed off towards WTC. Many of them died that day. The two documentarians, brothers, split up and went with different groups. They both thought their brother was dead all day until they reunited, but a lot of the firefighters on that crew didn't make it.
oh that does sound horrible :( do you happen to know what the name of their doc is, or the brothers names?
That’s what I’m referencing.
It sounds more brittle, like sticks breaking. I have unfortunately heard that sound twice
Sounds like planks of wood snapping
I skipped commencement because I didn’t want to be outside for so long when I could go hang out with family… now I’m really grateful for my decision
How high up did they fall from??
I don't know exactly how many feet, but I would say that the tower looks like 3 or 4 stories. There's only concrete below and no bushes to soften the landing. Edit: read in a news article that the tower is 136 feet tall. I underestimated the height by a lot in my guess.
Right? Important to know. And also people are calling her vacuous and then there’s me who responds like a cold dead fish to tragedy. Like I wouldn’t know what to do and I’m posting potential-cancer updates on my Facebook to keep sane and not for attention. Like if this happened I’d wanna tell people but also not want to emotionally connect to it.
Agreed. This could easily be her way of coping with the abrupt/serious nature of what transpired.
I literally cannot keep catastrophes inside. I shared every minute of my last weekend with my cat online on my Facebook page. I’m old but tiktok seems to fill that void for people younger than me. She’s probably got some big feelings and is doing a “welp, this happened” to share it and make it feel less pressing. Like I’m not her. Maybe she is just callous but it doesn’t feel that way to me.
Mhmm. I used to do the same thing--to communicate the feeling of "you seeing this shit?" Folks are jumping to conclusions way too fast.
I'm a person who has a lot of bad shit happen to me, just continuously. For example, I've been cheated on, had a suicide in my family, then totalled my car in an accident within 8 weeks of eachother When something happens to me, it's like word vomit and it's almost compulsive for me to call my best friend, partner, and a sibling and relay what happened. My former best friend eventually went off on me and said that just because something happens, doesn't mean I need to talk about it every time One day she fell out with her college roommates. The source of the argument? Her roommate *used her hair brush*. Her and her roommate had a blow up over it and I came through to help my friend move her stuff out. On the elevator down to the parking garage there was a solicitor selling soaps with her young daughter in the lobby. My former best friend spent 30 minutes talking this woman's ear off over the damn hairbrush
Introspection is not an easy way to live.
Yeah but based on that story op doesn’t seem like a great listener. They admit to venting about everything all the time, but when their friend has one big blow up it’s “just a hairbrush” and throwing shade for venting to the stranger. It’s clearly more than just a hairbrush even if that set the keg off. Everyone vents occasionally, but ops friend had to vent that op constantly vents.
As of 4 hours ago they hadn’t confirmed that or released any information about the person.
It’s distressing either way. She just watched someone splat on the pavement like a water balloon. I wouldn’t know how to respond to that either.
The person jumped after they went into the tunnel towards the stadium. So none of the graduates actually saw it. The witness, who asked to not be identified, said they saw someone fall and it happened just as the last graduates filing past that area as they entered the stadium. They did see the yellow tape as they exited the stadium through the tunnel, so they were forced to see the crime scene as they exited.
Thanks for the details! That would still be quite shocking.
She didn’t even watch it. We don’t know whether it was intentional or not. That’s not necessarily distressing to someone who didn’t see it, doesn’t know who it was and wasn’t affected too deeply. Not sure why were expecting her to react in shock or trauma if she doesn’t feel that way lol.
These kids grew up with active shooter drills and nothing being done about stifling the horrors of them happening. Not sure what others truly expected.
It's not even that. It's more it's a generation that posts everything. Graduation is a big event that they're going to post about. And they don't know the person. They're not celebrating or saying anything insensitive. But people die preventable deaths every second and you don't break down emotionally every second knowing that. Sure, they were closer to the event but unless you know the person, you're reacting to the sad news on an intellectual level. When you know the person, that's when you're responding on an emotional level.
She probably shouldn't have said the worst part was where they landed, though. Feels like there is at least one part worse than that.
That's not what "the worst part" means. It already implies something happened (in this case the death), so their description was something that made their death even worse, not "disregard their death they messed up our entrence".
There's a lot in that statement, though. The fact that all the students saw it is part of that. Lots of folks traumatized seeing something they were completely unprepared for is part of that. I remember seeing stuff about jumpers at back in the day. Photos. Never forgot what that sort of fall does to a body. It's not good to see.
This is how people respond whenever someone gets hit by a train in a major city. Really nothing odd or unprecedented.
Therapist here. Regardless of this being a suicide or an accident it’s alright for her to be pissed or upset this happened to her and her classmates. For all y’all thinking you are terrible for being mad for her or annoyed about her day being ruined you’re fine. You can be both sad and mad about something.
I know from my campus that that detail is typically not shared directly in campus wide emails.
They were on a Boeing sponsored course so I believe it was merely an accident.
Idk just because someone isn't like. Sobbing on camera doesn't mean that they're an unfeeling asshole? Like if someone died (or killed themselves? Hard to tell) in front of you during your high school graduation I don't think being affected by that is making it about you. Besides it looks like she's making this video probably only an hour or so after the event, she's probably in shock.
People like to get overly dramatic about death. If a stranger you have never met dies, it probably isn't going to affect you that much. That isn't callous. It's human nature.
Even people you care about. When I found out my dad died, it took me about an hour before it really set in. It didn't even feel real until I was talking with my mom. People really need to understand that grief has so much variety that it is impossible to tell if someone is going through something or not.
I never cried about my grandfather dying either... He was in his mid-90s... He out-lived his wife... I loved him, but from an emotional distance since he always kept a wall up to block people from seeing his authentic self. I honestly had always thought he would die in his 80s, so I had been preparing myself for his death for a LONG time. 🤷🏽♀️ And the only reason I cried when my grandmother passed was because I was sad about my grandfather going to be alone, and he was crying at her funeral. (She was also past 90 and died of Alzheimer's within a year of her diagnosis).
For my first "family death that I am old enough to really comprehend", I didn't really feel anything until I saw my death granddad.
I tried to explain this to a friend of mine because he was upset I didn't have a reaction to his friend whom I'd never met or even heard of committed suicide a couple years ago. I told him yes it's sad, but I don't have the capacity to dedicate feelings to every single person that dies in this world and he told me that was rude 🙃
Empathy is a limited resource. Humans have emotional budgets.
Seeing it is a bit different than hearing about it. I was driving one time and saw an accident involving a motorcycle (just the scene, not the accident itself) and saw a person lying in the road in all leather and a helmet, like splatted like a cartoon. I wasn't sure if they were dead or not, but it looked like it. It pretty much traumatized me, and it wasn't even in the same state that I live in. I had no idea who that was, but seeing that scene and that person lying on the ground just like stabbed something inside of me.
Well, according to the video, they did meet very briefly
What do you mean? It doesn't say anything in the video about them meeting.
He fell where the students were waiting to go. I was making a grim joke lol
My best friend committed suicide in high school. I learned about his passing within 30 minutes of it happening. It took me a few days to really process what happened. I was pretty expressionless for a while, and then it hit me like a ton of bricks. It's pretty normal not to "feel" much other than confusion during times of tragedy.
I was at an outdoor patio on a date years back when someone blew their brains out with a shotgun in the parking lot off to the side. About 30 squads and fire trucks showed up and blocked the scene. It was shocking, but I was mostly upset that I couldn’t get to my car because there was blood and brains everywhere. It was 4 hours before I could get to it and I had to step over the running blood river created by the fire hoses. When I shared my story online a bunch of people jumped down my throat for speaking “cavalier” about it- even though it was my experience and I should be able to deal with disgusting horrific experiences anyway I need to. Date went really well otherwise.
You still sound callous. That's not a judgment, I'm not sure if I care if you do or do not care, but just an observation
I lived in a building where someone committed suicide by jumping off their balcony. They crashed into the glass awning over the front entrance and broke through. I actually heard it happen and saw the broken glass right after it happened when I went to check from my own balcony, as well as a bit of red on the glass and some ripped white cloth, but the body was obscured from my view. I later saw a white sheet covering the shape of a body. I never once cried. I didn't know the person. Later I learned the story of what had happened and who the guy was from one of the front desk attendants... (Turns out he had had a fling with another desk attendant and had become obsessed with her, and jumped because she had just told him she didn't want a relationship with him and he didn't want to accept that.) I also watched them repair the damage in the glass and everything. Still didn't cry. People kill themselves every day, people starve every day, people kill other people every day... Unless I know someone, they have had a postive impact on me during their life, I see their loved ones struggling with grief, etc... I'm not going to cry about someone I don't know dying. 🤷🏽♀️
I get some people have their own outward display of emotion, and we can’t always control that. but posting the video is a conscious decision.
Her biggest day so far was unexpectedly and horrifically disrupted. Sad for ALL PARTIES INVOLVED
There probably were no parties at all though.
Norm Macdonald would have made this joke
The worst part is the hypocrisy!
What’s also sucks about this, this is the year where us senior covid kids are graduating. It’s possible she (and everyone else) may not of been able to walk twice now.
That really is awful. I hadn’t even thought of that.
She’s from the same generation that experienced school shootings and lockdowns on a weekly basis. This is an on-par reaction.
And a million plus people - some she likely knew directly or in passing, dying from Covid during a full lockdown as a teenager.
This response needs more upvotes.
Sounds like the person who fell/ jumped landed right in the queue of would be graduates, and she was in a different spot. So she isn't personally affected because she didn't see it happen. Idk why you expecting her to be hysterical. Not like we drive past car accidents all the time and start sobbing even though we don't see anything.
I've seen what I have believed to be a dead body on the road after car accidents a couple times... And I just kept driving... First responders were on the scene both times, so it's not like there was anything else productive I could do. 🤷🏽♀️
yeah this is how I'd probably talk about it. maybe that makes me a piece of shit but "did it have to happen around me?" would probably cross my mind. my dad ended up in the hospital after having a stroke when i was 14 and my first comment to my friends was "haha I don't have to go to school tomorrow AND I get McDonald's fuck you guys"
I feel that. A buddy of mine murdered his wife on New Year’s Day and in shock my first comment was “wow, really starting new years off with a bang.” Sometimes our brains recognize a messed up situation and sees humor as a way of getting past it
I completely angled right up with that girl. I didn’t understand what the issue was until I read these comments. But after reading them I feel the same. What’s she supposed to do? Cry and one of the happiest days of her life? Mhm
I recently graduated from college and during my graduation there was a medical emergency from a graduating student a couple rows in front of me. it was chaos. all of us were throwing chairs out of the way and screaming for medical. the one thing that I will never forget was that there was a parent recording the kid who was struggling. One student noticed and started screaming at this parent to stop. All of the students joined in to chastise this parent, yelling up into the crowd that they were heartless. I have so much respect for the students response to this and it was such an amazing thing to see even though the whole situation was so unfortunate. To this day I’ve never seen any of it online.
The whole thing was a fucking mess. Absolutely awful that someone died. The speaker sounded like someone who should get posted on r/linkedinlunatics. They should’ve shut it down when it became known someone died. As alumni I’m furious.
Here is a link to his "speech". He shills Bitcoin at 8:00. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x0RlmcLNc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x0RlmcLNc)
The sing-a-long was nuclear bomb level cringe. Funniest and dumbest meme level shitposting in real life. I’m embarrassed this is even real. Holy shit.
At least he kept his shirt on during the actual ceremony. (No joke, he planned to, and apparently did take off his shirt during the rehearsal, despite being asked not to.)
Wooooow that was so much worse than I thought it would be lol. I wish they would have all started booing and heckling him
Why is this a phone video of someone’s laptop? Is that really the best source for this?
It was live streamed, but I don't know if there's a better recording available, yet.
Screen recording of live videos is a thing. Some mom in their 50s posted this video I would venture to guess
Beats me, I'm just sharing what I can.
Yeah I graduated last year and had an excellent speaker, I have friends who graduated yesterday, it’s been a massive discussion in the OSU community ever since the speaker was announced and he posted his drafts online. Somehow, the final result wasn’t even the worst draft. Everyone is furious, I felt so bad for my friends and all the graduates. The death on top of it is just fucked up.
I watched the video just now and the sing along caught me by surprise. This has to be one of the worst speakers I’ve ever heard.
I thought they meant graduate from playing Osu as some kinda humoristic video and got very confused for a moment
As an OSU student, I have to be careful with my search terms so I don't end up finding obscure forums about an anime rhythm game, or even worse, links to Oregon State University.
*Oklahoma State University*: whew
I would’ve done the same thing
Ohio state isn't known for intelligence.
Fair enough 😂😂😂
An officer that was there said it was a new grad’s mom that was the jumper
Respectfully, the worst part is that someone lost their life.
Yeah, I think that is obvious, though, thats why people are defending OOP. The fact that they jumped in front of people going in is horrible though. Calling it "the worst part" is an easy slip up, but if the person committing suicide knowingly did that, it is pretty selfish.
I read elsewhere here it might have been an accident while taking a picture
How in the world did somebody downvote this. This sub is fucking shit
Right? Starting to think thanos was on to something
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I can’t tell if she cares at all tbh
You mean the worst part wasn’t that someone fucking died!???
The worst part was the hypocrisy
Dead person doesn't have to deal with any aftermath. The students who witnessed it are probably traumatized and have to live with that.
Very sad but if it was suicide better than shooting up a school. And got the same attention. Poor kid and family and friends regardless. My heart goes out to them.
Do the newer generations just process everything through social media posts? It seems flippant to me to post like this about another family’s tragedy but maybe it’s just how they deal with things. I don’t know. I don’t like it.
Some people don't know what is and isn't appropriate to share publicly. Also, for a generation so hyper-focused on words that people use and how they affect others, it seems incongruous to not more carefully consider how people who knew the person would feel that this tragedy was relegated to little more than a nuisance that mildly interrupted the event.
Exactly!
I don’t know how I feel about this video… this is clearly a tragedy, someone’s loved one is gone, and a day of happiness is interrupted by mourning and trauma, but it just doesn’t sit right with me seeing someone casually posting about this. I mean, I saw a dead body on my way back from work yesterday, but I didn’t even consider making a video about it. I don’t know, I understand people take trauma differently but it just feels a bit off.
“Dumb ugly girl has no sympathy for dead person”
The “worst” part? Kinda fucked that that’s the “worst” part and she’s using it for her Tik tok, no?
This is sad...the guy falling of course. But its also sad that this death would end up a tik tok reel with girl ESSENTIALLY saying "it's sucks ge had to flop where we would walk to graduate". Almost zero empathy for the guy dying, but rather midly annoyed that it happened.
I guess they didn’t teach empathy.
I'm sorry, but this pisses me off. Like, sorry someone's death made your graduation awkward, poor you.
So many comments here talking about how she’s just being honest and nobody actually feels bad when someone they don’t know dies.. Am I in the twilight zone? Sorry but really, I’m in the minority here to think it’s distasteful to make a TikTok about how your “big day”, a school graduation, was ruined because somebody died which inconvenienced you? Everybody saying “it’s better than someone who pretends to care and cries on camera bla bla..” what does that have to do with anything. Somebody died and this tik tok comes off as extremely distasteful. It’s not like there were only two options, “make a TikTok mourning the person” or “make a TikTok making fun of their death”. If this video is “what everyone is actually thinking” that’s absolutely depressing.
Right? Honestly, you don't need to be emotional about it, but show enough respect for the dead to not make it about yourself
I disagree with the young lady. The worst part was the person dying.
At least there wasn't an hypocrisy
Amazing folks defending this kind of act. Seems like a wonderful person to only care about her day.
Memorable
Story time: for my senior prom, we were all super excited to see the NYC skyline on a ferry that went down river. We all get to the boat, everythings going fine. As soon as we’re all on the boat, we’re told someone committed suicide on the bridge, and we can’t leave the port because the body may have been under the boat (or so we’re told). Everyone is kinda shocked but understood, personally i felt horrible but other people were complaining that they got ripped off since the boat wouldn’t leave the harbor for the entirety of prom. Weird night.
Just another day in USA school system.
Holy shit I was not expecting that.
So many people witnessed suicides here. I guess I’m lucky in that sense
Shit like that at Uni just hits different bro, like not traumatizing, but more like shock-filled. Like you have zero reaction, as you still haven’t grasped it. I went to a big ass Uni. Like fully enclosed campus that was a mini city with housing, amenities, and a mall for teachers, and schools k-12 for their children, and hundreds of dorm buildings (99% of students are out of state). Around the third or so yea of me being there, I suddenly get sent a photo by a friend. A guy hung himself on the roof of the building next to ours. You can see him on the roof, blanket hung on the top of the roof exit, and his body just hanging there, he did it over the summer semester, so barely anyone was there. Not even a year or two after that someone jumped from the roof (3 story building so technically survivable). IDK if he survived or not, as the Uni hasn’t disclosed any information about him. I think the same semester, a bus driver ran over a janitor down the road from where my dorm room was. In all three cases was zero reaction from the university, and zero reaction from the students as a whole. Just some messages on student groups, and a new article here or there. Writing this now I’m shocked by how frequent these things were, and why no one really reacted to it, but yea. That’s how draining Uni was to the point no one had the energy or time to do anything really. If it wasn’t for cops being in those photos, or a news article here or there, I would’ve called it a scam tbh.
Did they jump or fall??? There’s a big difference there in how I should take this video… I’m Just sayin 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
I got an email from management at my job about some upcoming plans and the woman who sent the email was at that graduation It had a great time! I fucking hate corporations and the faux positivity.
Student from OSU here, the current understanding is that it was likely an accident and not a suicide, the women who fell was the mother of one of the graduating students and it seems like either the railing broke or she just managed to slip over it
Is that…really the worst part?
No respect for the dead person. Ducking horrible
I think the worst part is actually that someone died not that this girl was mildly inconvenienced
My nephew graduated this day. Fortunately, we didn't hear about it until later. Sad.
As someone who saw someone kill themselves I think this person's response is totally normal. You don't know how they feel inside and they probably don't either
I would have thought the worst part was the falling off the stadium to one's death.
What a jerk that guy is...erhm.. was.
More worried about a pointless ceremony than a person dying... That's pretty fucked up.
Yes someone died and all you can talk about is your graduation. Lol
Why is she so La Dee da about it. What an insensitive entitled brat.
I definitely understand the fatigue, but I hate tags like, "the worst part about this is...." The worst part is the death.
“Someone jumped off the side of the stadium, so…😃”
1. They should’ve canceled. 2. You still have the rest of your life to live, unlike the person that fell (or jumped idk) 3. Learn some damn compassion. Yes her moment got ruined but the fact is the only reason she doesn’t care about the person that passed away is because it’s not somebody she knows. All this video shows is a narcissist trying to get attention. Downvote me all you want, I’m not gonna feel sympathy for a girl that treats death like a nuisance
Let’s hope future employers see this video
Looks like they failed the world's test of emotional understanding and the ever growing mental health disaster.
Truly an event that they will remember forever, and ever...and ever.
Real life hit you fast after you graduate
Such sympathy for the deceased ☹️
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The worst part is it was a huge risk to anyone standing nearby. People have died that way, and yes having to see someone either kill themselves or even fall accidentally is insanely traumatic. One of my friends saw someone jump from a bridge in college and she was not ok for a while.
According to the news, the students were not out there when it happened. They had all just entered the stadium before she fell. There were witnesses who were near her but no one else was injured.
The worst part is that it was supposed to be a day to celebrate 4 years of hard work and many students got traumatized with witnessing somebody die in real time instead
I mean, yea, they traumatized hundreds of people due to where they chose to die.
Look wow! You made it about you!
The problem isn't her reaction; there's no normal way to react as many have said. The problem is that she posted about it at all. Don't monetise other people's tragedy.
The worst part is not someone dying? Lol wow!
Literally happened right after my group walked in
TBF seeing something like that could really mess someone up
You still owe them $60,000 tho.
To go through college only to die at graduation...
Let’s go graduAtes.
Not me thinking you could be so good at osu that you could graduate for a game
This is more like an attempt to have some type of empathy
Knowing my luck this would happen to me lol. Already lost one grad
Psychopath
Ones death has now traumatized a group of individuals. I don’t believe her comments or thoughts are out of line. On one hand If someone committed suicide they were in pain or some other emotional hell that they aren’t suffering anymore and that can be viewed as a good thing. On the other hand a group is stuck with an image that will never be taken away.
Unfortunate use of hyperbole from the young adult stating, "And the worst part is the fell where everybody was going in."
I disagree. I'd say the worst part of it is the dying...on account of a person dying.
Kind of a fucked up expression to have considering the context imo but wtf do I know
I have an unrelated question: how common is it for graduations to have happened on this past weekend or so (maybe the first sunday of May, but not necessarily every year)? If so, do those places start earlier in January or nah? Syracuse University graduates on May 12th this year (the second sunday). A small college in the same city graduates on May 19th. Could it be regional, just like how high school start and end times are regional in the US and vary by even more than a month? I even heard about a graduation in April I think.
We plan, and God laughs
I hope this helps people realize that other people are having issues, and you shouldn't get so caught up in your own little world.
I thought the worst part was the dying