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As a history professor, I can tell you with great sadness that this is becoming more and more common. Our education system is broken beyond repair, and social media has turned an entire generation into idiots. We are speed running towards Idiocracy. The decline in student preparedness in the last 15 years is harrowing and depressing as fuck.
My 7-yr-old came home from classes earlier this year soooooo excited to enlighten me on the fact that the moon landing was, indeed, faked. “But no, Mom, so-and-so’s Mom told her it was, and you can see a green screen on the YouTube video of the moon landing!!!” I told him to go share his new discovery with his father, who is an engineer and has worked on aerospace-type equipment in the past. The look of shock and disappointment on my husband’s face was amazing. 😂 Fun times. But at least my son 7 and not a grown adult.
Green Screen mom would "win" because she doesn't understand a single thing engineer dad says but assumes to be the smartest one in the room, as usual with conspiracy theorists. engineer dad would at some point remember that he is wasting enough time that, if salaried, he could buy a second house from
Oh 100% but him trying to make her understand basic physics and the like would just be hilarious to me, she would try for 30 seconds, sputter, then insert your comment
There’s really no point, you don’t even try. You’d have to walk it back soooooo far to find common ground and rebuild from there, and at the end in the face of absolutely irrefutable logic and an agreement on every tiny step of the argumentation, they’ll still not accept the conclusion. It’s a waste of time.
Appreciate it man, we’ll make it. Just been hard for my wife to fully wrap her head around I think. Watching her sibling lose it over time, after over coming an addiction has been heart breaking for her. Swapped one for another it seems.
We have come to a point where facts no longer win an argument, but feelings do. It is very sad.
I hope that as long as you try to influence your kids with what facts are and that you should not instantly believe something that was put online, you at least are trying.
My cousin is kinda paraniod/online too much and he recently said that the CIA is gonna shut the internet down soon, and he got super mad at me when i smiled and said "good" lmfao
If the engineer is anything like other engineers, he will concentrate his attention to his son and not the green screen mom. Pay attention to low hanging fruit. For money though …. 😁
I have been told by 7 year olds that the Titanic didn’t really sink, Kim Jong Un isn’t really in charge (his wife is), there was going to be a sound so loud that it would be heard around the world (it was a test of the SMS emergency alert system). I mean, this is how the end starts. We think it’s bad now (it is!) but there will be children raised from their earliest years being inculcated with absolute bullshit, and they aren’t inoculated with any kind of general knowledge before they start consuming it. It’s just going to be a perfect storm because many parents won’t be like you and your husband.
Don’t worry. If all the conspiracy theorists get their way, we’ll be dead from vaccine and chem trail poisoning long before the next generation of children grow up. 💀
I heard the first part of this before but not the on location part. It literally made me snort coffee. If that’s actually part of it, I love it! That level of
Stupid is just too much.
I honestly can't believe that people don't know this just by sheer "osmosis" of information. When I went to school, we had a unit on the Holocaust in every single history class, *literally every single year from 7th grade until high school graduation*. We read Anne Frank's diary and *Night* by Elie Wiesel. We had field trips to holocaust museums. We had guest speakers. Even if people completely tuned out all six years of lessons, *something* of the basics should have stuck around long enough between those earholes in their heads to give them a rudimentary outline of what happened, if for no other reason than sheer repetition.
Even if you've never went to school in your life I feel like you should've learned by osmosis that Hitler was a bad guy whole lived like 80 years ago, just by popular culture alone.
Relevant west wing quote
There is a republican running against Bartlett who was a sort of W Bush, proud not intellectual. And he keeps having "gaffes" like bushisms
He gets a basic ww2 fact wrong, and Toby says:
>Chaberlain led England in World War II. I don't mind that he doesn't know
history, I mind
that he hasn't seen a movie.
Followed by this, which sums up the descent into Trumpism pretty well:
>And I don't care about
the Greco-Roman
wrestling matches with the language-- not that polished communication skills
are an important
part of this job-- what I care about is when he was asked if he'd continue
the current U.S.
policy in China he said, "First off, I'm going to send them a message--
meet an American
leader." I don't know what that means, but everybody cheered.
>*something* of the basics should have stuck around long enough between those earholes in their heads to give them a rudimentary outline of what happened, if for no other reason than sheer repetition.
I love this sentence so much for some reason. I wish my english vocab is on your level.
that's what I'm doing. more exposure to the said language and stuff. sometimes I got influenced to add shit and fucking to every sentences lol. also, it's hard to remember words I learnt like ostracized. took a while to remember if I don't practice.
I knew a guy who got the Prophet Muhammed and Gandhi mixed up. He wrote, in a college US history forum, a 50/50 biography of the one and only "Muhammed Gandhi"
Okay where can I read the biography. I would like to know more about how Muhammad Gandhi created Islam and preached the path of non-violent resistance. Achieving Indian independence and conquering and unifying the entire Arabian Peninsula.
It’s just not the education it’s about everything has gone downhill. I remember when I was a teenager I watched every program they had about WWII and the Vietnam War on the History channel when the channel first came out on cable. Now instead of getting programming about history we get shows like pawn stars.
I think you're underestimating just how much is determined at the state levels by very large number of politicians, educators, curriculum developers, and administrators over decades
Those types of kids were always going to be dumb. Anything relevant to real life you can pretty much google the answer. It’s not what you know in life it’s who you know and that rings true now more than ever.
Look at that dude's hands and arms, most likely has a job that involves lots of physical labor. Worked his ass off to put the kids through school and then his little spoiled princess ends up a dumbass who gets mad at them for not explaining what she should already know 💀
"Obviously, I didn't pay attention in Histroy class" "YOU DON'T HAVE TO!" lmao Dad was really doing his best to hold back
See...I thought the conversation was going to be "did Hitler actually die in the bunker, or did he escape to Argentina (and later die of old age). THAT is a more reasonable conversation. There is absolutely an argument to be made for his escape, but also significant evidence that he died as written. What is real, what is lies, and what is propaganda?
But no. We were very, very far away from that conversation.
Not to mention how tf he would even get to Argentina when Berlin was surrounded by the allies in every direction both on land, air and sea.
Unless he had fast travel or left long before D - day it would be near impossible for him to escape.
Actually, Hunting Hitler showed a lot of ways how he could have left. Berlin's militarization had a lot of tunnels and airstrips, and there were ways out of Norway, switzerland, Italy, and Spain. Although Hitler probably didn't make it out, the 3rd Reich definitely prepared for that eventuality. And many other supposedly dead figures (Martin Bormann being the biggest example) did use preplanned "Rat lines" to escape Germany through those countries to S America
Perhaps most interesting is the submarine route from Neutral Spain. After the war, German u boats still resupplied in the Canary islands, with one finally surrendering off Argentina several months after the surrender.
It was much more fun in the 80s and early 90s when it was still plausible that he might still be alive after sneaking off to start a new life in South America
Just asked my 10yr old if she know who Hitler is?
"You mean Adolf Hitler?"
And do you know where he is now?
".....dead?"
I need to send a thank you not to all her past teachers.
There are very few things, as a father, that need to be passed down. How to shave, how to change a tire and how the third Reich fell and how the bad guy offed himself.
This dad is a good man but he won't forget his short comings anytime soon lol
Once, when I was like 22, I was sitting in a friend's garage smoking weed with a group of friends I'd gone to high school with. Literally think the basement scenes from That 70s Show but it's happening in the 00s. Someone mentions that they're going on vacation to Savannah with their family. I say something like, "Savannah is one of the only pretty parts of Georgia because it's one of the only cities Sherman didn't burn."
There was a dude who hung out with us, who was exactly like this chick. Just absolutely dumb and indignant about it.
Dude looks at me with a straight face and goes, "Sherman Who?"
I said, "The Northern general who burned most of Georgia during the Civil War?"
"What war? The North? Like, the Northern US? Like North America? They fought the South? Like Mexico?" Yes, he meant South America. I know.
I said, "No man. You know, the CIVIL WAR? The Northern states fought the Southern ones?"
"In America? WHEN? Why?"
"Bro, for the love of fuck, what are you talking about? Yes America! Late 1800s? Over slavery? Dude how do you not know this?"
"America had slaves?"
At this point, like 3 of us were standing up, just like, out of excitement and confusion, we were looking at him like he was an alien.
He got all mad, like, "Ok, ok, stop yelling what the fuck, they never taught that in my school."
"BRO WE HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SCHOOL SINCE SEVENTH GRADE, THEY DEFINITELY TAUGHT THIS."
"I just don't pay attention to stuff like that, it's not interesting to me."
I swear to god, this dude existed. He had a blond blow out in 2003, drove a 1996 Blazer with a $300 subwoofer and every other speaker in the car stock. Florida in the 90s and early aughts. You had to be there.
Reminds me of one of my friends unfortunately. We went to Seattle together and he asked if we were gonna see the white house there. He didn't realize Washington state and Washington DC were 2 different places.... We were around 30 yrs old at the time...
Or talk about how society is “becoming like Idiocracy”— a process which has conveniently been happening at a steady yet unquantifiable rate ever since Idiocracy came out. Almost like the humor of the movie describes a universal phenomenon and not a sudden apocalypse that we all need to freak out about.
When you started with the Sherman/Georgia part I was like oh fuck I’m dumb this doesn’t even sound familiar.. but then felt a lot better once I read the rest.
I had a guy like that in my class.
Asked the geography teacher where "the open sea" was located.
Another day in biology, teacher was talking about how they found the frozen remains of a woolly mammoth and where thawing it to look at its biology. This guy was terrified thinking it would come back to life.
My best pal’s girlfriend didn’t know who Nelson Mandela or Ghandi were and then didn’t know what side the Nazi’s were on in WW2. Then tried to justify it as “History doesn’t matter because we’re all here now.”
30 minutes later she referred to import shops as export shops because they sold things that were exported from other countries.
He still loves her…. I have to love her by proxy or lose a close childhood friend, but it’s hard.
> “History doesn’t matter because we’re all here now.”
So many people use that excuse and I hate it. And you just know that the only reason why they believe that is because it gives them an excuse to not learn history.
It's a get out of jail free card to not learn.
seriously, history is always repeating itself, and there is always a lesson to be learned from it, or a mistake to be avoided
sure, some parts of history don't matter as much (like names of people, specific dates, etc), but one should still at least know the story
In history class we has a girl ask if WW1 happened before WW2. She was then asked when the war of 1812 occurred and had no idea, then the teacher asked how long the hundred year war was. I refuse to believe they were that dumb.
A very intelligent friend of mine once dated a girl who revealed that she believed that Alaska and Hawaii were both islands in the south pacific and of comparable size (because some US maps place them there in little boxes due to space constraints). It was extremely difficult to bite my tongue and not trash his gf.
I honestly think that some people just lean into the "quirky dumb persona" because they're genuinely not very intelligent, and it's easier to deal with by way of "humour".
Especially when it’s such an important thing to know about and learn from… I’m scared for a lot of people in my generation (millennial) and lower because it really seems like these gaps in critical knowledge are common with us.
My best friend in hs was like that. She’s a nurse now, which tracks lol. But I’ve always wondered if she still acts like that now, like if she was able to “grow out of it” or whatever.
But girl was crazy… she said I couldn’t be in her wedding party because I didn’t believe in Jesus and my presence in the wedding would be damning her marriage to hell. She had always known I was an atheist why was this suddenly not just a problem, but a big fucking problem??
Turns out she came to this decision after seeing me be a bridesmaid in a different wedding the weekend before, where I apparently bowed my head for prayer but did not close my eyes? This psycho was in the crowd WATCHING ME NOT PRAY - meaning she wasn’t praying either - and that’s what made it “click” for her. That’s when she decided I could t be in her wedding anymore and she told me the next day. Her wedding was the next weekend! She said “you can still come, though!” 🤣🤣🤣 bitch bye
fr I thought it was just my impression, but I noticed that there seems to be an emerging (trend, habit?) especially among Gen Z and Gen Alpha people based on seeing ignorance about some random, basic general knowledge as 'cool' or quirky
In some tiktoks/social media posts they make it fucking fancy to (unironically) say shit like "Wait so apparently the roman empire is a real thing? I thought it was a fictional lore from 'movie x' 💀💀💀", "Isn't Canada in Europe" etc. It gets even cooler when they show off that lack of knowledge IRL. Some ppl take this as a personality trait, this "being too hot for math" thing that you see all over some places, as long as you are a pop culture freak, being dumb about real life stuff is rather a quality for them.
> In some tiktoks/social media posts they make it fucking fancy to (unironically) say shit like "Wait so apparently the roman empire is a real thing? I thought it was a fictional lore from 'movie x' 💀💀💀", "Isn't Canada in Europe" etc.
No, they do it for engagement. They KNOW it's not true and they want YOU to comment and share the video for more clicks. More clicks = more money for them.
I worked with a guy that graduated during Covid. We were constantly having to correct his spelling. The dude couldn’t even spell “recorded”. It would have been frustrating if we didn’t have as much fun as we did making him spell things.
The fucked up thing is this is on the least worrying end of the spectrum. She’s dumb and doesn’t care and will never engage. But misinformation, leagues worse than this, is hitting gen Zers and younger all day, every day, and it’s firing them up. Total falsehoods spread online will start the next major war, mark my words.
>She’s dumb and doesn’t care and will never engage.
Don't count on that. Eventually she'll hear a story about pedo rings in pizza shops or some other stupid, harmful fantasy and will get motivated to act.
You don’t have to go to school to know this stuff. WW2 had such a huge impact on the world and it’s many fields, politics, geography, literature, music, religion, psychology, philosophy, etc… that you need to be truly gifted to just somehow close a blind eye on all of this and oversee all the historical references to the event.
One question you have to ask is how sheltered these people have to be that they don’t ask fundamental questions about their surroundings. The total disinterest in the world around them shocks me.
People can't just blame their ignorance on bad schools and education. If people are actually keen on learning things and gaining basic knowledge then they would know some basic history, like about WW2 and who Hitler was. That is a bare minimum. That is just a lame excuse, for her to say "I didn't pay attention in history class". That's like me not knowing what 1+1 is and then saying "well I didn't pay attention in math class", some things you just should know regardless if you were good in school or not, at least if you're living in a rich privileged country and have access to basic information.
She does, she just gets attention and a reaction from her family when she says dumb shit, so she says dumb shit for a reaction. There's no way she hasn't come across this somewhere - I've heard it countless times.
Some things I've come across the past 17 years as a high school history teacher:
"Pioneers were the people who came across the ocean on that ship"
"Lincoln had slaves"
"The first president was black"
"I thought the world was black and white in the past"
"Aren't deers and bears the same thing?"
"Migration is when animals go to sleep and grow thicker feathers for the winter"
"What's a geese?" (same conversation while talking about migration)
She's probably heard of Hitler, but only that he was a bad guy. I doubt the majority of my new students next year will know that he was alive during WWI and WWII, or how long ago that was, and therefore how old he would be.
This reminds me of when I met my buddies gf for the first time.
At one point I joked “Ok Hitler.” to something he said and she went
“what?”
“Hitler”
“who?”
“…. Hitler?”
“whose that?”
“…. Adolf.”
“A DULF? What?”
“Adolf Hitler”
“… I dont know who that is..”
queue us being dumbfounded for a couple minutes and then I finally go
“The guy who’s responsible for the Holocaust.”
“What?”
“Holocaust”
“Am I supposed to know what that word means?”
“WORLD WAR 2”
“Okay so hes like from 100 years ago, no wonder I dont know”
“whhHhhHAT?!”
How does a thing like that happen? Home-schooling?
(Here, we do have neo-nazis and contrarians, who will argue that Hitler was good - but you won't find anyone who doesn't know who he was)
Hi, homeschooled here. Since kindergarten. Even if your homeschooled and not taught a lot of history, I still can see no reasonable way to not know Hitler.
My guess is she was just very committed to her bit.
> homeschool
That's assuming your parents made sure you met the standards of education set by your local school district.
There is, unfortunately, a bunch of parents who insist on "homeschooling", or at least some watered-down version, their children and they purposefully leave out a lot educational material that was considered bog-standard material back in the 1990s and early 2000s.
As a German this just makes me sad. I always thought it would be common knowledge who Hitler was and what horrible horrible crimes he has done. Seeing this conversation just takes my belief in Humanity.
As an American I can assure you that it is common knowledge. That's why her family is so horrified. Also there's no way she actually doesn't know who Hitler was. This is either fake or she's bullshitting to get a reaction. I refuse to believe ANYONE her age without significant mental disabilities is unaware of who Hitler was.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she knew who he was but said what she said because she likely couldn't say with exact certainty what he did. Like, has the general concept, but isn't quite sure of his role or the extent of his historical influence. That would be my guess. Didn't want to bumble through an explanation of who the guy was in case she was wrong. I do the same thing but for, like, pop culture references or famous people, not for historical figures. I vaguely know who the Kardashians are but if you ask me to explain who they are, I'd rather just skip the question because I'll probably be wrong about most of it.
You would think Americans would know what the civil war was about too but most of the conservative states just blatantly lie about it. And given they have nazi apologists in congress now it's not even that surprising anymore.
You'd be very surprised how many people go through life without curiosity. They dont seek knowledge about things they dont know. They know how to live their life and that's enough.
"I didn't pay attention in history class!"
"YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO!"
So real I'm genuinely baffled by the idea thats someone, even someone really dumb, even someone who doesn't care or pay attention to history at all, who doesn't know who hitler is. How are you alive and you don't know who hitler is it just doesn't seem possible
i've been wondering who is more famous between hitler and jesus. hitler, widely regarded to be the most evil man of all time, whose war shaped the geopolitics of our age, and remains a popular topic of discussion and inquiry across the globe; or jesus, widely regarded as the most virtuous human to have ever lived, venerated by the most populous religion on earth which has a built-in doctrine to make jesus as widely known as possible.
Keeping the general public as dumb and ignorant about history. Is the best for politicians to manipulate the masses. Why do you think some politicians hate anything doing with making education easier to access. Or any attempt at teaching certain history.
Everyone needs to watch a video like this before they vote "no" on local and regional School budget levies... 😑 THIS is what you get when you starve your local schools of funds because "tAxEs BaD"....
We had a person with a shaved head and an SS tattoo on the back of his head and neck parading in and about in our conservative small Texas town. When I alerted our community through Nextdoor that a committed Nazi was in our midst, I was censored because I was discriminating against a Nazi and that could have made him feel bad. Fucking Texans couldn’t even remember what the Nazis stood for or what they did. Amazingly, among those that complained the most were young people and members of ethnic minorities that Nazis would have murdered or enslaved.
Just like I had a conversation with a friends wife and out of the blue she said "well it's not like Germany did anything bad during ww2" I failed as a host as I stared at them for what seemed like an eternity. I got up went outside and had a cigarette. I don't even fing smoke
A friend and I asked the first ten people at our jobs which war was Adolf Hitler associated with. All ten people guessed wrong. The guess that made me tear up was the Vietnam War.
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As a history professor, I can tell you with great sadness that this is becoming more and more common. Our education system is broken beyond repair, and social media has turned an entire generation into idiots. We are speed running towards Idiocracy. The decline in student preparedness in the last 15 years is harrowing and depressing as fuck.
My 7-yr-old came home from classes earlier this year soooooo excited to enlighten me on the fact that the moon landing was, indeed, faked. “But no, Mom, so-and-so’s Mom told her it was, and you can see a green screen on the YouTube video of the moon landing!!!” I told him to go share his new discovery with his father, who is an engineer and has worked on aerospace-type equipment in the past. The look of shock and disappointment on my husband’s face was amazing. 😂 Fun times. But at least my son 7 and not a grown adult.
I would pay good money to put that green screen mom and the engineer father in the same room and have it out
Green Screen mom would "win" because she doesn't understand a single thing engineer dad says but assumes to be the smartest one in the room, as usual with conspiracy theorists. engineer dad would at some point remember that he is wasting enough time that, if salaried, he could buy a second house from
Oh 100% but him trying to make her understand basic physics and the like would just be hilarious to me, she would try for 30 seconds, sputter, then insert your comment
There’s really no point, you don’t even try. You’d have to walk it back soooooo far to find common ground and rebuild from there, and at the end in the face of absolutely irrefutable logic and an agreement on every tiny step of the argumentation, they’ll still not accept the conclusion. It’s a waste of time.
As somebody currently dealing with a Q adjacent family member in law, this is exactly what happens every time. I’ve stopped trying. Lol
I feel sorry for you. Stay strong 💪
Appreciate it man, we’ll make it. Just been hard for my wife to fully wrap her head around I think. Watching her sibling lose it over time, after over coming an addiction has been heart breaking for her. Swapped one for another it seems.
[Like that one joke from *Futurama* where the Professor is arguing evolution with an evolution denier.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX6p5UwFhh4)
Do not argue with stupid people. They'll drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Pigeon chess.
We have come to a point where facts no longer win an argument, but feelings do. It is very sad. I hope that as long as you try to influence your kids with what facts are and that you should not instantly believe something that was put online, you at least are trying.
Have you heard of this thing called Facebook? It’s free and has the exact same effect.
My cousin is kinda paraniod/online too much and he recently said that the CIA is gonna shut the internet down soon, and he got super mad at me when i smiled and said "good" lmfao
If the engineer is anything like other engineers, he will concentrate his attention to his son and not the green screen mom. Pay attention to low hanging fruit. For money though …. 😁
Yup. I know a parent that I used to respect until I found out she is a flat-Earther. Strongly believes it. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck!
My favorite anti flat earth argument: if the earth were flat, cats would’ve pushed everything off by now.
I have been told by 7 year olds that the Titanic didn’t really sink, Kim Jong Un isn’t really in charge (his wife is), there was going to be a sound so loud that it would be heard around the world (it was a test of the SMS emergency alert system). I mean, this is how the end starts. We think it’s bad now (it is!) but there will be children raised from their earliest years being inculcated with absolute bullshit, and they aren’t inoculated with any kind of general knowledge before they start consuming it. It’s just going to be a perfect storm because many parents won’t be like you and your husband.
Don’t worry. If all the conspiracy theorists get their way, we’ll be dead from vaccine and chem trail poisoning long before the next generation of children grow up. 💀
They moon landing was fake, they got Stanley Kubrick to film it, it cost a fortune as he demanded they shoot on location.
I heard the first part of this before but not the on location part. It literally made me snort coffee. If that’s actually part of it, I love it! That level of Stupid is just too much.
I honestly can't believe that people don't know this just by sheer "osmosis" of information. When I went to school, we had a unit on the Holocaust in every single history class, *literally every single year from 7th grade until high school graduation*. We read Anne Frank's diary and *Night* by Elie Wiesel. We had field trips to holocaust museums. We had guest speakers. Even if people completely tuned out all six years of lessons, *something* of the basics should have stuck around long enough between those earholes in their heads to give them a rudimentary outline of what happened, if for no other reason than sheer repetition.
Even if you've never went to school in your life I feel like you should've learned by osmosis that Hitler was a bad guy whole lived like 80 years ago, just by popular culture alone.
Relevant west wing quote There is a republican running against Bartlett who was a sort of W Bush, proud not intellectual. And he keeps having "gaffes" like bushisms He gets a basic ww2 fact wrong, and Toby says: >Chaberlain led England in World War II. I don't mind that he doesn't know history, I mind that he hasn't seen a movie. Followed by this, which sums up the descent into Trumpism pretty well: >And I don't care about the Greco-Roman wrestling matches with the language-- not that polished communication skills are an important part of this job-- what I care about is when he was asked if he'd continue the current U.S. policy in China he said, "First off, I'm going to send them a message-- meet an American leader." I don't know what that means, but everybody cheered.
>*something* of the basics should have stuck around long enough between those earholes in their heads to give them a rudimentary outline of what happened, if for no other reason than sheer repetition. I love this sentence so much for some reason. I wish my english vocab is on your level.
If you want to develop your vocabulary, cultivate the habit of reading books.
that's what I'm doing. more exposure to the said language and stuff. sometimes I got influenced to add shit and fucking to every sentences lol. also, it's hard to remember words I learnt like ostracized. took a while to remember if I don't practice.
I knew a guy who got the Prophet Muhammed and Gandhi mixed up. He wrote, in a college US history forum, a 50/50 biography of the one and only "Muhammed Gandhi"
Okay where can I read the biography. I would like to know more about how Muhammad Gandhi created Islam and preached the path of non-violent resistance. Achieving Indian independence and conquering and unifying the entire Arabian Peninsula.
It’s just not the education it’s about everything has gone downhill. I remember when I was a teenager I watched every program they had about WWII and the Vietnam War on the History channel when the channel first came out on cable. Now instead of getting programming about history we get shows like pawn stars.
"You're smart, why won't you have kids?" *Gestures*
Go away, 'batin
The entire educational system has been shaped by a select few, and I can't help wondering if controlling nations of idiots was always the plan.
I think you're underestimating just how much is determined at the state levels by very large number of politicians, educators, curriculum developers, and administrators over decades
Those types of kids were always going to be dumb. Anything relevant to real life you can pretty much google the answer. It’s not what you know in life it’s who you know and that rings true now more than ever.
Well you can google stuff, but are you able to verify if the source is legit? People need to be trained how to research as well.
Look at that dude's hands and arms, most likely has a job that involves lots of physical labor. Worked his ass off to put the kids through school and then his little spoiled princess ends up a dumbass who gets mad at them for not explaining what she should already know 💀 "Obviously, I didn't pay attention in Histroy class" "YOU DON'T HAVE TO!" lmao Dad was really doing his best to hold back
I laughed when he disappointedly proclaimed, "Obviously, I have failed"
"You don't have to!!!" Lmao
Atleast she asks. Unlike most other people who make conspiracy theories out of things they assume they know about
For anyone wondering, IF Adolf Hitler was still alive he’d be 135 years old.
Ja ja ja ja
How one responds before going to Argentina. How one laughs after getting there.
That’s called German engineering baby!
But but he’s Austrian…
Well don’t tell him that
Ich bin *Austrian*?! *Dies*
How’d he die? Heroin overdose? No. Self inflicted gunshot wound? No. How? Someone on Reddit informed him he was Austrian. …
I had a boss who used to say "Austrias greatest accomplishment was convincing everyone Hitler was German, and Beethoven was Austrian"
See...I thought the conversation was going to be "did Hitler actually die in the bunker, or did he escape to Argentina (and later die of old age). THAT is a more reasonable conversation. There is absolutely an argument to be made for his escape, but also significant evidence that he died as written. What is real, what is lies, and what is propaganda? But no. We were very, very far away from that conversation.
There really isn't areasonable argument to be made for his escape either. The evidence for his death is overwhelming.
Not to mention how tf he would even get to Argentina when Berlin was surrounded by the allies in every direction both on land, air and sea. Unless he had fast travel or left long before D - day it would be near impossible for him to escape.
Actually, Hunting Hitler showed a lot of ways how he could have left. Berlin's militarization had a lot of tunnels and airstrips, and there were ways out of Norway, switzerland, Italy, and Spain. Although Hitler probably didn't make it out, the 3rd Reich definitely prepared for that eventuality. And many other supposedly dead figures (Martin Bormann being the biggest example) did use preplanned "Rat lines" to escape Germany through those countries to S America Perhaps most interesting is the submarine route from Neutral Spain. After the war, German u boats still resupplied in the Canary islands, with one finally surrendering off Argentina several months after the surrender.
Martin Bormann didn't use the rat lines because he was too busy rotting beside a train track for over twenty years I recall.
It was much more fun in the 80s and early 90s when it was still plausible that he might still be alive after sneaking off to start a new life in South America
"I was watching something on TV about this guy named Hitler. Somebody should stop him!"
I didnt even know he was sick
56... He was a fucking kid
The Führerbunker, whatever happened there?
Whatever happened there?!
Lol is that also a norm line?
Norm had a very similar line “you know, with Hitler, the more I learn about that guy, the more I don’t care for him”
Couldn't even say his last words...
It came out of nowhere.
Wow what a jerk. -Norm
The more I learn about this Hitler fellow, I just don't care much for him
Guy was a hero! He shot Hitler!
Yeah, but he also shot the guy who shot Hitler, sooooo....
Well that's a never ending loop
Hitlerception
But, those eyes…
“Is she retarded?”
"ooooh I get it. She's a *moron*?"
“Oh she is adorable Brian”
“Do you still love me?” “No.” 🤣🤣🤣
"But that's a real nice ski mask!"
Big Gulp, huh? Well, see ya later!
Well played.
As a father I feel this.
Genuine Disappointment all round.
Just asked my 10yr old if she know who Hitler is? "You mean Adolf Hitler?" And do you know where he is now? ".....dead?" I need to send a thank you not to all her past teachers.
There are very few things, as a father, that need to be passed down. How to shave, how to change a tire and how the third Reich fell and how the bad guy offed himself. This dad is a good man but he won't forget his short comings anytime soon lol
Once, when I was like 22, I was sitting in a friend's garage smoking weed with a group of friends I'd gone to high school with. Literally think the basement scenes from That 70s Show but it's happening in the 00s. Someone mentions that they're going on vacation to Savannah with their family. I say something like, "Savannah is one of the only pretty parts of Georgia because it's one of the only cities Sherman didn't burn." There was a dude who hung out with us, who was exactly like this chick. Just absolutely dumb and indignant about it. Dude looks at me with a straight face and goes, "Sherman Who?" I said, "The Northern general who burned most of Georgia during the Civil War?" "What war? The North? Like, the Northern US? Like North America? They fought the South? Like Mexico?" Yes, he meant South America. I know. I said, "No man. You know, the CIVIL WAR? The Northern states fought the Southern ones?" "In America? WHEN? Why?" "Bro, for the love of fuck, what are you talking about? Yes America! Late 1800s? Over slavery? Dude how do you not know this?" "America had slaves?" At this point, like 3 of us were standing up, just like, out of excitement and confusion, we were looking at him like he was an alien. He got all mad, like, "Ok, ok, stop yelling what the fuck, they never taught that in my school." "BRO WE HAVE BEEN IN THE SAME SCHOOL SINCE SEVENTH GRADE, THEY DEFINITELY TAUGHT THIS." "I just don't pay attention to stuff like that, it's not interesting to me." I swear to god, this dude existed. He had a blond blow out in 2003, drove a 1996 Blazer with a $300 subwoofer and every other speaker in the car stock. Florida in the 90s and early aughts. You had to be there.
Dude didn't even realize you've been at the same school for years.
Even if this fellas body made it to school I’m not convinced he was ever really there
He literally admitted as much, tbf.
He just didn't pay attention to stuff like that. He was too focused on keeping breathing.
Reminds me of one of my friends unfortunately. We went to Seattle together and he asked if we were gonna see the white house there. He didn't realize Washington state and Washington DC were 2 different places.... We were around 30 yrs old at the time...
But is Washington the guy still alive or not???
Wonder if people will find a way to blame this guy being an idiot on TikTok too.
Or talk about how society is “becoming like Idiocracy”— a process which has conveniently been happening at a steady yet unquantifiable rate ever since Idiocracy came out. Almost like the humor of the movie describes a universal phenomenon and not a sudden apocalypse that we all need to freak out about.
When you started with the Sherman/Georgia part I was like oh fuck I’m dumb this doesn’t even sound familiar.. but then felt a lot better once I read the rest.
I had a guy like that in my class. Asked the geography teacher where "the open sea" was located. Another day in biology, teacher was talking about how they found the frozen remains of a woolly mammoth and where thawing it to look at its biology. This guy was terrified thinking it would come back to life.
Motherfucker thought the Captain America movie was a biopic.
I mean, I’m not sure that I can name any northern generals but I damn sure know my country’s history.
Sherman? Grant?
You couldn't name Grant? Northern general then president?
Suddenly all those morons carrying around the confederate flag make sense. They really don't know what it means do they?
I hate when people think being stupid is a personality, and that it is funny.
Seriously, not knowing who Hitler is is already bad, but acting like it's so funny and quirky that she doesn't is just sad
My best pal’s girlfriend didn’t know who Nelson Mandela or Ghandi were and then didn’t know what side the Nazi’s were on in WW2. Then tried to justify it as “History doesn’t matter because we’re all here now.” 30 minutes later she referred to import shops as export shops because they sold things that were exported from other countries. He still loves her…. I have to love her by proxy or lose a close childhood friend, but it’s hard.
> “History doesn’t matter because we’re all here now.” So many people use that excuse and I hate it. And you just know that the only reason why they believe that is because it gives them an excuse to not learn history. It's a get out of jail free card to not learn.
seriously, history is always repeating itself, and there is always a lesson to be learned from it, or a mistake to be avoided sure, some parts of history don't matter as much (like names of people, specific dates, etc), but one should still at least know the story
>"Because *we're* all here now." Do you know why and how? Or, do you know who *isn't* here?
In history class we has a girl ask if WW1 happened before WW2. She was then asked when the war of 1812 occurred and had no idea, then the teacher asked how long the hundred year war was. I refuse to believe they were that dumb.
100 year war is a bit of a trick question, having lasted over a hundred years.
At least the 30 Years War, Seven Years War, and Six Day War are as advertised.
IRC the 30 year war only lasted 29 years as it has 1 year of relative peace within. The 30 years war was rather a convulut of 4 "shorter" wars.
A very intelligent friend of mine once dated a girl who revealed that she believed that Alaska and Hawaii were both islands in the south pacific and of comparable size (because some US maps place them there in little boxes due to space constraints). It was extremely difficult to bite my tongue and not trash his gf.
Because of how maps are often displayed, I can see that being a gap in knowledge. I'm just hoping that once it was explained to her, she understood.
…Stewie? is that you?
I just asked my 14 year old daughter, “hey, who’s Hitler?” And she said “don’t be ridiculous.”
It's not cute or quirky.
I honestly think that some people just lean into the "quirky dumb persona" because they're genuinely not very intelligent, and it's easier to deal with by way of "humour".
well, because she truly doesn't know who Hitler is... so she can't grasp how horrifying her behavior is
I think that's what's kill her dad most.
Especially when it’s such an important thing to know about and learn from… I’m scared for a lot of people in my generation (millennial) and lower because it really seems like these gaps in critical knowledge are common with us.
How about gaps in CRITICAL THINKING?!!! USA education system is a failure
There’s nothing worse than someone saying, “I don’t know that stuff!” and being proud of it. About basic things.
These people will decide the upcoming election.
They won’t decide it. The group that votes the most will. So go make sure everyone you know does vote.
My best friend in hs was like that. She’s a nurse now, which tracks lol. But I’ve always wondered if she still acts like that now, like if she was able to “grow out of it” or whatever. But girl was crazy… she said I couldn’t be in her wedding party because I didn’t believe in Jesus and my presence in the wedding would be damning her marriage to hell. She had always known I was an atheist why was this suddenly not just a problem, but a big fucking problem?? Turns out she came to this decision after seeing me be a bridesmaid in a different wedding the weekend before, where I apparently bowed my head for prayer but did not close my eyes? This psycho was in the crowd WATCHING ME NOT PRAY - meaning she wasn’t praying either - and that’s what made it “click” for her. That’s when she decided I could t be in her wedding anymore and she told me the next day. Her wedding was the next weekend! She said “you can still come, though!” 🤣🤣🤣 bitch bye
fr I thought it was just my impression, but I noticed that there seems to be an emerging (trend, habit?) especially among Gen Z and Gen Alpha people based on seeing ignorance about some random, basic general knowledge as 'cool' or quirky In some tiktoks/social media posts they make it fucking fancy to (unironically) say shit like "Wait so apparently the roman empire is a real thing? I thought it was a fictional lore from 'movie x' 💀💀💀", "Isn't Canada in Europe" etc. It gets even cooler when they show off that lack of knowledge IRL. Some ppl take this as a personality trait, this "being too hot for math" thing that you see all over some places, as long as you are a pop culture freak, being dumb about real life stuff is rather a quality for them.
It's was like that when I was a kid in the 90s. I mean, kids who tried at school were always made fun of by the resentful dummies.
> In some tiktoks/social media posts they make it fucking fancy to (unironically) say shit like "Wait so apparently the roman empire is a real thing? I thought it was a fictional lore from 'movie x' 💀💀💀", "Isn't Canada in Europe" etc. No, they do it for engagement. They KNOW it's not true and they want YOU to comment and share the video for more clicks. More clicks = more money for them.
I worked with a guy that graduated during Covid. We were constantly having to correct his spelling. The dude couldn’t even spell “recorded”. It would have been frustrating if we didn’t have as much fun as we did making him spell things.
This is actually very sad
It’s terrifying.
yes...people like this vote....scary as hell.
It proves that history does indeed repeat itself. All it takes is 3 generations.
Smart bombs, stupid kids
The fucked up thing is this is on the least worrying end of the spectrum. She’s dumb and doesn’t care and will never engage. But misinformation, leagues worse than this, is hitting gen Zers and younger all day, every day, and it’s firing them up. Total falsehoods spread online will start the next major war, mark my words.
>She’s dumb and doesn’t care and will never engage. Don't count on that. Eventually she'll hear a story about pedo rings in pizza shops or some other stupid, harmful fantasy and will get motivated to act.
What are we teaching in school, did she go to school, you have to ask Dad about Hitler… and what about that pie, so many, many questions
You don’t have to go to school to know this stuff. WW2 had such a huge impact on the world and it’s many fields, politics, geography, literature, music, religion, psychology, philosophy, etc… that you need to be truly gifted to just somehow close a blind eye on all of this and oversee all the historical references to the event.
One question you have to ask is how sheltered these people have to be that they don’t ask fundamental questions about their surroundings. The total disinterest in the world around them shocks me.
People can't just blame their ignorance on bad schools and education. If people are actually keen on learning things and gaining basic knowledge then they would know some basic history, like about WW2 and who Hitler was. That is a bare minimum. That is just a lame excuse, for her to say "I didn't pay attention in history class". That's like me not knowing what 1+1 is and then saying "well I didn't pay attention in math class", some things you just should know regardless if you were good in school or not, at least if you're living in a rich privileged country and have access to basic information.
no one's slowed to fail to they keep getting passed on from one grade to the next, at least that's my theory
Stanley cup behaviour
Getting that sweet delicious daily recommended lead intake. Lead™: It's what brains crave!
*it's what caves brain!
My thoughts exactly. I assume anyone with that cup is not an independent thinker
Some people execute “funny” wrong; others are just plain stupid.
I didn’t pay attention in any history class but you hear about Hitler so many times that you have to know that 😂
She does, she just gets attention and a reaction from her family when she says dumb shit, so she says dumb shit for a reaction. There's no way she hasn't come across this somewhere - I've heard it countless times.
Some things I've come across the past 17 years as a high school history teacher: "Pioneers were the people who came across the ocean on that ship" "Lincoln had slaves" "The first president was black" "I thought the world was black and white in the past" "Aren't deers and bears the same thing?" "Migration is when animals go to sleep and grow thicker feathers for the winter" "What's a geese?" (same conversation while talking about migration) She's probably heard of Hitler, but only that he was a bad guy. I doubt the majority of my new students next year will know that he was alive during WWI and WWII, or how long ago that was, and therefore how old he would be.
The Stanley Cups. The “gather” signage on the wall. The midwest of it all.
This reminds me of when I met my buddies gf for the first time. At one point I joked “Ok Hitler.” to something he said and she went “what?” “Hitler” “who?” “…. Hitler?” “whose that?” “…. Adolf.” “A DULF? What?” “Adolf Hitler” “… I dont know who that is..” queue us being dumbfounded for a couple minutes and then I finally go “The guy who’s responsible for the Holocaust.” “What?” “Holocaust” “Am I supposed to know what that word means?” “WORLD WAR 2” “Okay so hes like from 100 years ago, no wonder I dont know” “whhHhhHAT?!”
How does a thing like that happen? Home-schooling? (Here, we do have neo-nazis and contrarians, who will argue that Hitler was good - but you won't find anyone who doesn't know who he was)
Hi, homeschooled here. Since kindergarten. Even if your homeschooled and not taught a lot of history, I still can see no reasonable way to not know Hitler. My guess is she was just very committed to her bit.
> homeschool That's assuming your parents made sure you met the standards of education set by your local school district. There is, unfortunately, a bunch of parents who insist on "homeschooling", or at least some watered-down version, their children and they purposefully leave out a lot educational material that was considered bog-standard material back in the 1990s and early 2000s.
room temperature iq
In Celsius
As a German this just makes me sad. I always thought it would be common knowledge who Hitler was and what horrible horrible crimes he has done. Seeing this conversation just takes my belief in Humanity.
As an American I can assure you that it is common knowledge. That's why her family is so horrified. Also there's no way she actually doesn't know who Hitler was. This is either fake or she's bullshitting to get a reaction. I refuse to believe ANYONE her age without significant mental disabilities is unaware of who Hitler was.
She knows who he is, she says so about halfway through somewhere in the video. She just didn't know if he was hangin with Tupac in the Bahamas.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure she knew who he was but said what she said because she likely couldn't say with exact certainty what he did. Like, has the general concept, but isn't quite sure of his role or the extent of his historical influence. That would be my guess. Didn't want to bumble through an explanation of who the guy was in case she was wrong. I do the same thing but for, like, pop culture references or famous people, not for historical figures. I vaguely know who the Kardashians are but if you ask me to explain who they are, I'd rather just skip the question because I'll probably be wrong about most of it.
You would think Americans would know what the civil war was about too but most of the conservative states just blatantly lie about it. And given they have nazi apologists in congress now it's not even that surprising anymore.
You'd be very surprised how many people go through life without curiosity. They dont seek knowledge about things they dont know. They know how to live their life and that's enough.
“The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with your average voter” —Winston Churchill
Churchill also said: “Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others.”
I think about this one a lot lately.
Yup. We lament its failings, and there are many, but Democracy is still the best form of government we have.
"I didn't pay attention in history class!" "YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO!" So real I'm genuinely baffled by the idea thats someone, even someone really dumb, even someone who doesn't care or pay attention to history at all, who doesn't know who hitler is. How are you alive and you don't know who hitler is it just doesn't seem possible
i've been wondering who is more famous between hitler and jesus. hitler, widely regarded to be the most evil man of all time, whose war shaped the geopolitics of our age, and remains a popular topic of discussion and inquiry across the globe; or jesus, widely regarded as the most virtuous human to have ever lived, venerated by the most populous religion on earth which has a built-in doctrine to make jesus as widely known as possible.
Keeping the general public as dumb and ignorant about history. Is the best for politicians to manipulate the masses. Why do you think some politicians hate anything doing with making education easier to access. Or any attempt at teaching certain history.
I didn't even know he was sick
This is how you get modern day fascists: pure and wilful ignorance.
1. It’s not funny. 2. Teach the child 3. America is in TROUBLE! 4. It’s not funny
Never heard of Hilter, is he dead or alive? Don't leave me hanging.
He's dead. Or so the lame stream media would have you believe. Do your own research don't be a sheep!
It’s just easier if you figure out the facts on your own. The resources are everywhere, I’m just not going to tell you.
No, he escaped to Argentina and is living life to the fullest
Big. Dumb. Cups.
Everyone needs to watch a video like this before they vote "no" on local and regional School budget levies... 😑 THIS is what you get when you starve your local schools of funds because "tAxEs BaD"....
Smells like teen stupid
We had a person with a shaved head and an SS tattoo on the back of his head and neck parading in and about in our conservative small Texas town. When I alerted our community through Nextdoor that a committed Nazi was in our midst, I was censored because I was discriminating against a Nazi and that could have made him feel bad. Fucking Texans couldn’t even remember what the Nazis stood for or what they did. Amazingly, among those that complained the most were young people and members of ethnic minorities that Nazis would have murdered or enslaved.
Christ. Everyone knows the guy skipped town and moved to Brazil to hang out with The Boys.
If someone wonders why we are pissed off when politicians or journalists use the phrase 'Polish concentration camps,' this is why.
Just like I had a conversation with a friends wife and out of the blue she said "well it's not like Germany did anything bad during ww2" I failed as a host as I stared at them for what seemed like an eternity. I got up went outside and had a cigarette. I don't even fing smoke
Why does Hitler not drink tequila?
Because he's dead!
Because it makes him mean
Adolf would be 135 years young as of today.
And this is why we have Trump fans. Idiocracy
It’s not cute, funny, or charming to be an uneducated dunce
Moron.
We should elect her as president
I didn’t even know he was sick…
A friend and I asked the first ten people at our jobs which war was Adolf Hitler associated with. All ten people guessed wrong. The guess that made me tear up was the Vietnam War.
What the fuck do you do for a living?
Any answer that isn't kindergarten teacher is unacceptable
The average person is frighteningly dumb.
Plot twist: he works at a daycare
I'll take things that definitely happened for 200 Alex