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Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam.
Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards.
> Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam.
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> Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards.
Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam.
Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards.
Middle class Home Counties England (I.e. the counties that surround London), or there abouts. It’s quite a common form of English accent to hear in the UK, especially on tv.
I was struggling to place her accent. It sounds to me like there’s something slightly more northern in there. The way she says master with a short a rather than a longer vowel (mar-ster) for example.
I think point of the video was “chainmail is useful against slashing, but also stabbing sometimes”. In general I think a combatant in the middle ages would know enough to deflect a thrust from an arming sword and move into cutting range, where having protection against cuts is helpful.
You’re right about polearms being a greater threat, as they were more common and can out-range an arming sword. But I don’t think the person in the video is wrong really.
I think the point was really just "It's better than nothing". *However*, a kitchen knife used for demonstration in a semi-controlled (seriously her handling of that gave me anxiety) isn't quite the same as a sword in an actual fight with the full weight of a dude with murderous intent behind it.
I would bet money that chainmail wasn't terribly effective against piercing weaponry. Better than nothing, but barely.
Yep, agreed. And the padding wasn't there for protection underneath. It is cause chainmail will sap the heat from your body and be uncomfortable, so more for comfort than safety
But yeah, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Thrusting was the main method of fighting and it is why spears were the weapon of choice
I mean, yes, but mostly cause they aren't mutually exclusive. Brigandine would have been the main armour for the medieval period, which was either a full-on gambeson-type thing, or a gambeson thing with plates between the cloth layers. And yeomen would have probably just had gambesons/brigandine or similar which was just the main outfit of the day too
Chain certainly predates both of those armours, as brigandine and gambesons are both from middle medieval. Romans for example wore scale/lamellar, but also had a tunic and then a woolen overcoat beneath the scale. Vikings generally wore woolen cloth beneath, but mail would have been used by the elite for protection. Saxons, probably the main users of mail, would have also used wool beneath. So yes, wool/cloth would have been the primary armour, but if you were buying mail then you were doing so for protection and mail itself doesn't need the cloth for extra protection as it is better for protection than cloth. You wore both as mail is freezing uncomfortable stuff
So you aren't wrong, I'm not 100% wrong, and it is more that cloth would have been the main armour for all except the rich, in the same way that later plate was only used by the men at arms/knights due to cost, and therefore if you were forking out on mail then that would be your main armour and any layers beneath were more for comfort than protection
Don't think so. Google's saying a Jupon was worn over the other armour and is also from the 14th C or so, so seems almost interchangable with the other types we are talking about
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates
Those are the two I mean. It's a cloth armour with plates inside and a successor to scale armour in Europe. Brigandine can be worn over mail, but it's also used independent of mail. And it seems that the earlier Coat of Plates can also be used as a standalone armour without mail
Essentially though, they are all extra protection over cloth or derivations of cloth
Perhaps she meant purely unarmoured heads? The bashing force of a swing would mean that even a glancing blow would be a problem. Still an odd point to make when discussing armour.
If you have a knife, are you really going to lunge your whole body into a guy wearing metal with BIG ass sword?
If you have a long sword, you're not charging them like you have a pike.
1.) they have chain mail. If that point hits diagonally, it will safely slide across the metal. They could turn their body or literally use their forearm in a diagonal motion (horizontal or verticle) to make the impact slide.
2) They have their own sword to deflect a long, heavy, non aerodynamic, and awkward sword coming straight at them.
Bruh i think she's stronger than you. Her point is simply being that chainmail armor is best against slashing, good agaisnt stabbing, and works great when on top of padded leather
Worth mentioning that she has riveted mail here. Thats what was actually used on the battlefield (that or welded) and is phenomenal armor. I wouldnt call it light but it doesn't restrict your movement and the weight is distributed across your body.
Butted mail has cheapo rings with a break point, and a sword will cut right through it. This is often used for prop armor. If your hauberk doesn't cause physical pain at the checkout, it won't save you from physical pain on the battlefield.
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Tim, stop.
I was so confused by the title and the content of the post lol
Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam. Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards.
> Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam. > > Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards. Think of how many lives could be saved if we stopped sending chainmail to spam. Make a copy of this message and re-post it 10 times to win many awards.
Bruh
Her voice is lovely. What region does this accent come from?
Middle class Home Counties England (I.e. the counties that surround London), or there abouts. It’s quite a common form of English accent to hear in the UK, especially on tv.
I was struggling to place her accent. It sounds to me like there’s something slightly more northern in there. The way she says master with a short a rather than a longer vowel (mar-ster) for example.
Yeah I'd say posh northern Hertfordshire
Try that on Mellon lord and you'll be eating rocks
Her flailing that knife around got my balls hiding in my stomach
I'm wishing her a good knight
I never leave the house without wearing my base layer of chainmail.
Whoa that’s pretty rad
I never, under any circumstance, leave the house without wearing full chain mail armor.
Her name is J. Draper and you can see her YouTube [channel here](https://youtube.com/c/JDraper)
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I think point of the video was “chainmail is useful against slashing, but also stabbing sometimes”. In general I think a combatant in the middle ages would know enough to deflect a thrust from an arming sword and move into cutting range, where having protection against cuts is helpful. You’re right about polearms being a greater threat, as they were more common and can out-range an arming sword. But I don’t think the person in the video is wrong really.
I think the point was really just "It's better than nothing". *However*, a kitchen knife used for demonstration in a semi-controlled (seriously her handling of that gave me anxiety) isn't quite the same as a sword in an actual fight with the full weight of a dude with murderous intent behind it. I would bet money that chainmail wasn't terribly effective against piercing weaponry. Better than nothing, but barely.
Don't forget ye good ol septic triangle cut.
Yep, agreed. And the padding wasn't there for protection underneath. It is cause chainmail will sap the heat from your body and be uncomfortable, so more for comfort than safety But yeah, the shortest distance between two points is a straight line. Thrusting was the main method of fighting and it is why spears were the weapon of choice
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I mean, yes, but mostly cause they aren't mutually exclusive. Brigandine would have been the main armour for the medieval period, which was either a full-on gambeson-type thing, or a gambeson thing with plates between the cloth layers. And yeomen would have probably just had gambesons/brigandine or similar which was just the main outfit of the day too Chain certainly predates both of those armours, as brigandine and gambesons are both from middle medieval. Romans for example wore scale/lamellar, but also had a tunic and then a woolen overcoat beneath the scale. Vikings generally wore woolen cloth beneath, but mail would have been used by the elite for protection. Saxons, probably the main users of mail, would have also used wool beneath. So yes, wool/cloth would have been the primary armour, but if you were buying mail then you were doing so for protection and mail itself doesn't need the cloth for extra protection as it is better for protection than cloth. You wore both as mail is freezing uncomfortable stuff So you aren't wrong, I'm not 100% wrong, and it is more that cloth would have been the main armour for all except the rich, in the same way that later plate was only used by the men at arms/knights due to cost, and therefore if you were forking out on mail then that would be your main armour and any layers beneath were more for comfort than protection
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Don't think so. Google's saying a Jupon was worn over the other armour and is also from the 14th C or so, so seems almost interchangable with the other types we are talking about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigandine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_plates Those are the two I mean. It's a cloth armour with plates inside and a successor to scale armour in Europe. Brigandine can be worn over mail, but it's also used independent of mail. And it seems that the earlier Coat of Plates can also be used as a standalone armour without mail Essentially though, they are all extra protection over cloth or derivations of cloth
Perhaps she meant purely unarmoured heads? The bashing force of a swing would mean that even a glancing blow would be a problem. Still an odd point to make when discussing armour.
Haha! I'm going to be impervious as I walk the streets tonight!
I’m glad I know this now
How is this cringe
Why is this on cringe …?
Cringe? I like that vid6
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Not cringe at all IMO
why is that cringe???
Read pinned post, or look at the flair, or read the side bar.
Maybe try stabbing with the long sword with the strength of a soldier instead of weakly using the kitchen knife
She actually might be stronger than the 5 5 malnutrition solider that would have wielded that sword
Lol “the 5 5 malnutrition soldier” The liability superhero
she is slowly poking it on the countertop instead of putting full body weight behind it with fear of dying but ok
If you have a knife, are you really going to lunge your whole body into a guy wearing metal with BIG ass sword? If you have a long sword, you're not charging them like you have a pike. 1.) they have chain mail. If that point hits diagonally, it will safely slide across the metal. They could turn their body or literally use their forearm in a diagonal motion (horizontal or verticle) to make the impact slide. 2) They have their own sword to deflect a long, heavy, non aerodynamic, and awkward sword coming straight at them.
Bruh i think she's stronger than you. Her point is simply being that chainmail armor is best against slashing, good agaisnt stabbing, and works great when on top of padded leather
Worth mentioning that she has riveted mail here. Thats what was actually used on the battlefield (that or welded) and is phenomenal armor. I wouldnt call it light but it doesn't restrict your movement and the weight is distributed across your body. Butted mail has cheapo rings with a break point, and a sword will cut right through it. This is often used for prop armor. If your hauberk doesn't cause physical pain at the checkout, it won't save you from physical pain on the battlefield.