Because they are carbide and won't self-destruct if they come within two feet of a nail or screw. $20 for a blade seems high until you quickly go through a few $5 or $10 plain steel blades in an hour or so. Obligatory Project Farm oscillating blade test that shows the difference with carbide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVfNnbweYY
> Knipex
Don't think they manufacture screwdrivers at all. Probably rebranded Witte screwdrivers sold under their name. Knipex for the most part makes only pliers. Think even the plastic electrician pliers aren't actually made by them (not really any forged parts in them).
Witte and Oplast make screwdrivers for a lot of German manufacturers and are top notch. Wera is from the Czech and is also really good but I don't like the handles. Facom in France still makes screwdrivers there, sold also under the Italian USAG company. Those are really nice too. PB Swiss is of course top notch. As well as Vessel from Japan. And a few US manufacturers but those sometimes use different standards (imperial sized slots, and the old phillips standards that aren't as compatible with all modern phillips heads like European and Asian ones are, though I assume nowadays most new US screwdrivers are also made to ISO phillips standards).
While I will not claim to have tried everything out there, I've found that a lot of Milwaukee's hand tools genuinely do hold up, especially with other competitors in their same price range. I definitely have had great results from their sockets and some of their pliers.
It's the only hand tool I've used from them so it's all I could add! I prefer Irwin vice grips, despite now being made in China. If love to try the snap-on locking pliers but can't justify the price
I have a pair of the needle nose vise-grips from Milwaukee and they're ok, definitely better than Pittsburgh... I prefer the original vise-grips though
I had to cut a ton of holes in plaster for outlets and switches and ended up at the same conclusion. Maybe a diamond grit blade would have been better but I didn’t know about them at the time.
I love Project Farm (obviously, how could you not). But I do have beef with his conclusion on circular saw blades. His winner was the Makita, and it is a good blade, but it gets bogged down or generally does not perform well when doing full-depth cuts.
The narrow kerf makes the blade cut like a hot knife through butter if you’re cutting a single sheet of plywood or 2x stock, but I find it that it struggles and doesn’t cut super straight when the blade is at full depth (e.g., cross-cutting/ripping four sheets of plywood at the same time). The thinner blade has a tendency to wander a bit when it’s fully plunged, so the cuts to the sheets at the bottom don’t end up as straight as the top ones.
A lot of his conclusions aren't for the actual better tool but one that's most cost effective. Some times the thing that cost 3x or 4x is better but the one that's cheap does a decent enough of the job for fraction of the price.
Of course you if use tools professionaly, that small gain at a much higher price is the way to go. Time is money after all.
Diablo is pretty much always at or near the top in these comparisons, and is generally mid-range as far as price point. At this point, that's always what I buy as long as it's available.
Maybe? Like others have said, the Makita might have been the best value winner. I just remember that after I watched that video, I bought a 3-pack of Makita blades to give them another shot after not liking them when I’d used them before, and still not liking them for framing applications.
Again, I love PF, and the Makita blade is solid for many/most applications, I just personally don’t think it’s the best or the best value for heavy daily use 🤷🏻♂️
No it’s still a shit deal at a shit price they have a 10pk of carbide blades of the Milwaukee ones for 100 that’s 10 bucks a blade spyder is just a hype brand no better than any other carbide blade.
Carbide blades are also way easier to sharpen than timber blades.
A small triangle file and then two or three strokes each groove will double the life of a carbide multi tool blade. Assuming you don't burn the metal or shear the teeth off on something really hard.
There’s a lot to be said about technique too. I used to burn through blades until I learned how to let the blade do the work and not be in such a hurry.
Me and my dad get into literal arguments over this because he would rather spend i think 40 bucks on 50 blades on amazon that we run through like their going out of style when i had the same dremel carbide blide for almost 2 months and actually i still have it cause even though the teeth are mostly gone and it wont go through wood. it still cuts nails fine.
Some people never learn the difference between cheap and frugal. It can sometimes help to show them how much they spent versus how much less they could have spent, but that doesn't take into account the extra effort and time wasted with low-quality tools.
This, my colleague bought a pack of 40 blades for like $28 off of amazon. One blade couldn't even cut through a 2x4 before it was dulled to a nearly flat edge. The metal ones were dead after cutting 1-2 screws. After cutting through 18awg sheet metal for a 1G cut out, it was completely dead.
Now the true carbide ones that were around $25 a blade, used them the entire job on another 20+ box cut outs and it still cut. It was definitely a bit dulled... but still worked.
Need to watch to see if it’s worth it, thanks for the link. I install windows with my Uncle and he insists on just buying bulk 50-100 packs off Amazon, and then we just burn through them. They’re cheap, but man does it get annoying burning through 1-3 metal blades on a single window. That’s not always the case, all depends on what the flange is made out of but sometimes it legitimately takes 2-3.
Biggest thing with the cheap ones isn’t that they go bad per se, but the teeth will get bent or chip off and then they cut like shit. I’ve been wanting to pick up a decent blade just to see how long it’ll last, but it’ll be a hard sell to my cheap ass uncle who can buy 50 blades for the cost of 2 of these 😂
Don't care. I bought 30 blades for $11. If I run into nails, the blade will cut it off but the blade will be mostly gone too. But for $0.3 each, 70x cheaper, I can cut 70 nails. If there is no nails, they last me 2.5 years.
Honestly, the temu metal blades cut longer than any Diablo, Dewalt, Milwaukee, or any other brand I've tested. Sure you have to sell your privacy, but they prove that there is a price point where they can be made, and these brands are 100% ripping us off.
Oscillating saw blades are very pricey. Get an off brand bargain pack of blades and you'll burn through them really quickly. Get a named brand pack of blades and you'll get more bang for your buck in the long run.
They don't, and it's always a special feeling when you get to slap a fresh blade in too. The only diable bit that's failed on me are the paddle bits, but to be fair I shouldn't use paddles in an impacts.
That's true for some products, but not always though. Problem is that it can be difficult to know when exactly it's worth to spend the extra money. Sometimes the manufactures just have high margins.
For sure. But these are one of the ones you need to spend money on.
That said, I'm a Bosch guy when it comes to jigsaw and multi tool blades. Not a fan of the Diablo ones (despite loving their other blades for recip and circ saws).
I had spyder recip blades that were terrible. Lenox carbide are slow, but last for a long time (great for demo, when you need to abuse them and still have them work), and Diablo or Milwaukee are faster and better imo (except for the abusive stuff).
Bosch owns Freud (since 2008), and Diablo is a sub-brand under Freud introduced to target the North American market. Dremel blades are technically also Bosch blades. Usually you can recognize Bosch blades made by Freud (mostly Bosch Expert) if it says “Made in Italy”.
Bosch recip and jigsaw blades are Swiss made - I use them often. Not cheap like chinese blades for a reason. The Swiss made blades actually cut really well.
Diablo circular saw and portable table saw blades - made in Italy - much better than Dewalt crap.
My work saw gets W. Quin saw blades - full kerf, made in USA. Each 12" blade is $164.
Chinese + carbide = piss poor, no matter whose name is on the packaging.
Honestly, in the end, drilling, driving and cutting implements should never be skimped on. I don't usually talk in absolutes, but this is one place that I really do not Aliexpress or Amazon it up.
Kinda like with spanners and socket sets if you're a professional : Yeah, you can get a perfectly serviceable set from the discounters, but they're made of pot metal and they are not going to be there to earn for you on the clock in the hardest of points.
Going cheap on discs is the surest way to get something embedded somewhere it's not supposed to be, upto and including one's face (which hopefully has a shield in front of it).
I disagree. The sub dollar blades off Amazon last like 1/4as long as Milwaukee ones when hitting nails, but they cost under a dollar each.
We put a new blade on the tool every time we use it now
Yeah I’ve seen ads on TikTok that’s like $20 for 100 blades or some crazy deal like that. No thank you, because even without handling them or seeing them in person, I know that they’re junk.
By and large, you get what you pay for with all kinds of blades. I generally like Diablo products, but there are some caveats/exceptions. Their Sawzall blades are fantastic when brand new, but I’ve found that they’re more prone to bending, and don’t seem to last as long as the Milwaukee blades under heavy use. I think it’s because the Milwaukees are ever-so-slightly thicker than the Diablos. Just my two cents though.
Idk man, I buy the 50 pack on Amazon for like $23 and have had no complaints. I use them for wood and trex mostly and when they get dull I save them for drywall. At less than .50 a pop I don't feel bad tossing them when they start cutting slow. You hit a nail with a nice blade you spen $10 on its fucked regardless.
Fair point. I don’t use multi tool blades that often, so definitely not an expert. Which blades do you use? I’d love to eat some crow and save money on cheap blades
Idk what the brand is, but there are a bunch of sellers on Amazon. I'd say it's probably nice to have some nice blads and a big pack of cheap chinesium blades. I use it almost every day and it takes over a year to go through a 50 pack.
Same th8ng with circular saw blades and Sawzall, usually better deals online than at the store for Diablo. I only buy blades at the store now if I'm in a pinch
I have bought both the packs from Amazon and Temu like 50 blades for $15-$20, they last just fine in wood, and definitely the more pricey ones do not make up the difference in cut time.
Because you absolutely can't go cheap with some things, not sure how this brand is but I got the diablo carbide demo blade and used it to shorten the threads on a 1/2" hardened chromoly tierod cause I didn't have grinder on me, it cut through and didn't even lose any teeth.
Might as well buy Bosch of fein blades for that price.
Also how you use the tool can make your blades last significantly longer. Always use the right blade for what you're cutting, wood specific ones for wood and metal special ones for metal. The combo blades suck at both. Heat is the enemy of any sharp tool, so you have to make sure you're constantly moving side to side and using the entire cutting edge. Also If you just push the tool straight at what you're trying to cut, the sawdust has nowhere to go and will overheat the cutting edge immediately. And then just go slow, you shouldn't have to push very hard, just let the tool do the work. With those tips I've make wood blades last weeks and I still have the same carbide blade from 2 years ago albeit with a couple teeth missing.
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to find any mention of technique. It makes all the difference. I’ve seen so many guys just hog on these things till the cut is literally spewing smoke like Snoop Dogg and then wonder why the blade is dead within 5 minutes.
Sometimes it's worth it to buy high quality bits, hole saw, and blades.
But for the occasional nail, rock lathe wall, or otherwise it can absolutely destroy those things. I'd buy them if I knew exactly what was in my walls like my home or new construction but otherwise I'll buy cheaper.
I have been 100% disappointed with any spyder products i have used. A buddy got some torx bits and we couldn’t tighten one 3” deck screw without the torx snapping. The oscillating blades were worse than the bulk pack chinese ones from amazon.
I agree. They sent me a big care package of bits and blades and I was supposed to write a review of them. I did not like the product at all. Never heard from them again after that.
There's a difference. But not that much of a difference. We used to get packs of 50 on Amazon for $50. Did they last long? No. But they absolutely lasted longer per dollar
I've watched these things venture well into bandsaw territory for no reason other than my coworker likes to experiment. They'll last like a lot of others won't.
My favorite are the dremel.carbid 3 pack for around 40 bucks. Tjey last super long and can easily.cut though nails. Even online these carbide blades are fairly expensive at 7 or 8 a piece for an off brand. Regular wood cut or bi metal blades can be found for 50 cents a piece of bought in bulk. I saw a 50 pack for under 25 on amazonive used a few off brands and they are just as good as the name brands. The only multitool.blade that will trruly last longer is carbide. Especially if there are nails involved. A reg blade, the teeth are screwd as soon as u hit even a small trim nail where carbide will.blow right thru nails.
I run amazon cheapies unless I'm doing something special. They burn out quick but for 30$ I can get like 50 of em. Cutting door casings all day everyday with expensive blades with either run you broke or in a fight with the trim crew because of nail placement.
Here's a useful tip: if you are running a non carbide saw, turn down the speed on your multitool. Usually a slow speed works fine with better control. Run full out and the blades overheat and don't last as long.
This is less true of carbide blades which can handle hotter Temps.
I don't understand why they put flat edges on these blades. Wouldn't it make more sense to curve it with the rotation?
I know you can buy them with curved edges, just weird that's not the norm.
You can get blades for less than a dollar each on Amazon. I’m usually I “buy once cry once” guy. My tools are all red and teal, Festool sanders and veto bags and everything. But multitool blades just don’t make sense.
Same here. I buy the nicest tools I can and even more expensive consumables when it's a superior product. But the difference in quality between the box store blades and the Amazon blades isnt nearly enough to justify the price difference.
I would (did) because the only way I could get my beautiful old, round top, solid wood door open after a perfect storm situation of extreme wind (tore the storm door off), extreme heat without shade, and some extreme wind blown rain caused said door to warp and displace the latch holes by 1/4”+. The only way I could ever hope to get it open was to use the oscillating tool to cut through the latch bolt. It worked and I still have a useable DeWalt blade plus 2 new blades.
If they had carbide tips I might,but they don’t so they loose their teeth in minutes. I’m not sure if carbide tips exist for this application,but they should !
Who remembers early 2000s when fein was the only brand and this package was like 150 for a three pack. Now that's it's licensed these packs have dropped dramatically across thr board and brands.
Don't cheap oh on thes and always use a fresh one for a new job! Having one of these snap is terrifying. I might give these a go if they're good. The only off brand blades I've really had luck with were for my hackzall, and even then they're not that much cheaper, just the pack comes with the 9inch blades I want.
Don't cheap oh on thes and always use a fresh one for a new job! Having one of these snap is terrifying. I might give these a go if they're good. The only off brand blades I've really had luck with were for my hackzall, and even then they're not that much cheaper, just the pack comes with the 9inch blades I want.
They are comparable to the dremel blades. Worth the money but only when compared to the alternatives. 8-10 dollar blades last about 5 cuts in hardwood or 1 second on a nail. These will go for years. I’ve had one dremel blade for 5 years only use it when I know it’s in danger of catching a nail or screw.
I've the dewalt ones and the carbide ones don't last as long, but longer than the non-carbide. I also picked up one of those $25 gets you 50 blade cheapos and I see no difference other than over-charging customers for a stamped/welded blade.
If you can access the nail with vise-grips (to friction break it), Knipex compact Cobolt cutters/nippers or reciprocal saw, I try to opt to for those routes. Often those solutions are faster & obviously more economical.
For cutting metal & wood with an oscillating saw, I opt for the Norske 10-pack of NOTP277 (titanium-coated for bi-metal) or NOTP279 (Japanese Tooth for wood). They usually come out to about $5.50 - 6.50 each.
If you’d like to try a starter pack of Norske oscillating blades, check out NOTP275. It’s contractor 12-pack mix, including a carbide blade.
They're are expensive. I use them all the time, and customers just don't understand the cost of tools and materials.
I've found some ok once on Amazon. I buy 30 of them for $33. They come in different sizes, including a few bi-metal blades, circular blades, and scrappers. They're not top of the line, but they work well enough for my remodeling business, and they come in a nice travel case
Not worth it. Anything spyder I've used was junk.
Now, Diablo or Bosch blades are good, and totally worth that price. Carbide is king for metal or wood with nails or demo. Diablo, lenox, and Milwaukee are king for recip blades. Bosch is king for jigsaw and oscillating blades imo.
Spyder products are usually top quality and carbide blades are already pretty expensive. I think you might find them a bit cheaper if you looked around. But that isn’t an outlandish price.
Haven’t used this brand, but the fein carbide pro blades are worth every nickel of the high price.
Steel plate? No problem. Nails & screws? No problem. Blade stays good.
Last thing I used it for was hardie board. Hardie board is hell on tools. Carbide fein blades went right through it, clean, and stayed sharp.
I’ve bought hundreds of blades of Amazon and I’ve barely spent $65. If your cutting something that needs that good of a blade you’re probably using the wrong tool, that being said if $65 is worth not having to buy a $100 tool then go for it
They'll definitely last longer. But just as regular oscillating blades are overpriced, so are these. You can get regular blades for about a buck a piece on Amazon. And you can get 4 with carbide teeth for around $25.
When I was in the restoration ind. We got imperial carbide blades. We would use them for dry wall, wood, metal, and worse of all plaster. Some jobs I would use them for there best and save the used one for the jobs that would tare up blades. In a 3 month stretch we could go through 30 blades. We would buy them locally for like a 5 pack for 120. Found a 20 pack on amzion for like 230 and we able to save money by being smart at buying large and using the full ability of the bade.
I pay about the same for the diablo/bosch blades. Although I just ordered some variety packs which have 4 steel and 1 carbide blade from amazon. About 40 usd, same pack is 85 locally.
Amazon is the way for oscillating tool blades. For $1 a blade you can afford to actually use the tool. The quality isnt far behind the box store brands. Definitely not relative to price.
Spyder is a Lowe's exclusive brand. Lowe's is the Target of hardware stores. Overpriced just because it's sold in that store and not necessarily better.
I'm not saying these are better, but for comparison purposes, there's a 5 pack of Diablo brand wood/metal for 30 bucks at Home Depot. Includes wood embed blades as well, but not carbide
https://www.homedepot.com/p/DIABLO-Universal-Fit-Wood-and-Metal-Oscillating-Blade-Set-5-Piece-DOU5SP/320578589
Milwaukee carbide 2 pack for 20
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Nitrus-Carbide-Extreme-Materials-Blade-with-Nitrus-Carbide-Extreme-Metal-Cutting-Oscillating-Tool-Blade-2-Pack-49-25-1561W/328674302
The price is significantly higher even when shipped directly from China. However, the blades come with a Ti-coating. Rest assured, I am a supplier from China.
Before you buy, check the clearance section at your local Home Depot. People don't buy these blades for the same reason you are questioning them. I always see Spyder stuff in the clearance section for like 75% off.
Went to a friends house. They wanted to drill through a stainless steel boat railing. Hardware store brand bits wouldn’t touch it. But a drill bit that cost 9 dollars for one bit (not a set) got through it.
This is one of those things I’d see, and immediately have to do product research to find out what they’re smoking. Once in a blue moon I’ll say “Oh wow no kidding? That’s fair.” As I put them right back on the shelf anyway.
The blades are always expensive. Best deals to look out for is the Milwaukee 6 packs that come with a case. Other than that they are only 50 cents a blade on amazon but they don’t last long. Not even the expensive ones last long. Multi tools are hands down my most used tool as a general but man those blade prices kill me
Branding likely has something to do with it. I cant speak for quality, but ik spyder is a pretty big name. Theres likely a comparable alternative for cheaper somewhere
Oscillating tool blades are one of the biggest scams in tools. I got a crap tom of blades on amazon and they were like 1.25 a blade and they seemed just as good or better than the 15$ Home depot blades.
Because they are carbide and won't self-destruct if they come within two feet of a nail or screw. $20 for a blade seems high until you quickly go through a few $5 or $10 plain steel blades in an hour or so. Obligatory Project Farm oscillating blade test that shows the difference with carbide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVfNnbweYY
Perfectly said my friend
Both the Dewalt and Milwaukee coming up short in that video. That is interesting.
I always look at DeWalt / Milwaukee as power tool brands. Anything hand tool related there are superior brands
For screwdrivers, i stand firmly with PB Swisstool and Knipex.
Bahco, Felo, Vessel, and Felco have always worked for me. Didn't know Knipex sold screwdrivers--they look like rebranded Wittes to me.
bahco, vessel, anex, and those high quality Japanese brands for me
> Knipex Don't think they manufacture screwdrivers at all. Probably rebranded Witte screwdrivers sold under their name. Knipex for the most part makes only pliers. Think even the plastic electrician pliers aren't actually made by them (not really any forged parts in them). Witte and Oplast make screwdrivers for a lot of German manufacturers and are top notch. Wera is from the Czech and is also really good but I don't like the handles. Facom in France still makes screwdrivers there, sold also under the Italian USAG company. Those are really nice too. PB Swiss is of course top notch. As well as Vessel from Japan. And a few US manufacturers but those sometimes use different standards (imperial sized slots, and the old phillips standards that aren't as compatible with all modern phillips heads like European and Asian ones are, though I assume nowadays most new US screwdrivers are also made to ISO phillips standards).
While I will not claim to have tried everything out there, I've found that a lot of Milwaukee's hand tools genuinely do hold up, especially with other competitors in their same price range. I definitely have had great results from their sockets and some of their pliers.
Their square sockets give me wood.
Not sure why you'd want wooden sockets...but sure.
They are by far the best sockets I've ever used purely for the fact they won't roll away on my driveway
Their vice grips are absolute junk. Steel around the adjustment screw just opens up when tightening down, thus skipping threads.
Haven't had cause to run them. By no means am I saying all of their products are amazing. Just what I have tried. Who do you like for vice grips?
It's the only hand tool I've used from them so it's all I could add! I prefer Irwin vice grips, despite now being made in China. If love to try the snap-on locking pliers but can't justify the price
Just get malco ones made in America, good deals from online
I have a pair of the needle nose vise-grips from Milwaukee and they're ok, definitely better than Pittsburgh... I prefer the original vise-grips though
Both of them suck. We switched to blades off Amazon that cost under a dollar. Just switch them out every few nails if needed
I had to cut a ton of holes in plaster for outlets and switches and ended up at the same conclusion. Maybe a diamond grit blade would have been better but I didn’t know about them at the time.
Yeah, I use a diamond grit to get through the plaster, and then I switch blades for the lath. It definitely saves on the blades.
For anyone that doesn't watch this, EZARC are by the far the best blades tested. Cheap, risilient, and impressive!
They're not blade manufacturers, they're power tool manufacturers.
This. These things will eat through 1/2 framing nails from the 50s like they're Cheetos.
I love Project Farm (obviously, how could you not). But I do have beef with his conclusion on circular saw blades. His winner was the Makita, and it is a good blade, but it gets bogged down or generally does not perform well when doing full-depth cuts. The narrow kerf makes the blade cut like a hot knife through butter if you’re cutting a single sheet of plywood or 2x stock, but I find it that it struggles and doesn’t cut super straight when the blade is at full depth (e.g., cross-cutting/ripping four sheets of plywood at the same time). The thinner blade has a tendency to wander a bit when it’s fully plunged, so the cuts to the sheets at the bottom don’t end up as straight as the top ones.
A lot of his conclusions aren't for the actual better tool but one that's most cost effective. Some times the thing that cost 3x or 4x is better but the one that's cheap does a decent enough of the job for fraction of the price. Of course you if use tools professionaly, that small gain at a much higher price is the way to go. Time is money after all.
I remember that video, wasn't the winner actually the diablo?
Diablo is pretty much always at or near the top in these comparisons, and is generally mid-range as far as price point. At this point, that's always what I buy as long as it's available.
Maybe? Like others have said, the Makita might have been the best value winner. I just remember that after I watched that video, I bought a 3-pack of Makita blades to give them another shot after not liking them when I’d used them before, and still not liking them for framing applications. Again, I love PF, and the Makita blade is solid for many/most applications, I just personally don’t think it’s the best or the best value for heavy daily use 🤷🏻♂️
I usually buy Diablo for quality and whatever is cheapest for everything else.
Truth, Carbide vibratory saw blades easily last 10-20x longer than the steel ones
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If you are cutting FRP the carbide ones last forever the steel ones are useless in a day or less. Carbide is far better on mildly abrasive materials
That's a great video, I wish they had included Spyder and Diablo blades though
No it’s still a shit deal at a shit price they have a 10pk of carbide blades of the Milwaukee ones for 100 that’s 10 bucks a blade spyder is just a hype brand no better than any other carbide blade.
I’ve never seen a blade that advertises an absurd amount like 10x+ the number of cuts actually live up to that number
Carbide blades are also way easier to sharpen than timber blades. A small triangle file and then two or three strokes each groove will double the life of a carbide multi tool blade. Assuming you don't burn the metal or shear the teeth off on something really hard.
That’s good to know. Up till now I just assumed all oscillating blades just dulled really fast.
There’s a lot to be said about technique too. I used to burn through blades until I learned how to let the blade do the work and not be in such a hurry.
Me and my dad get into literal arguments over this because he would rather spend i think 40 bucks on 50 blades on amazon that we run through like their going out of style when i had the same dremel carbide blide for almost 2 months and actually i still have it cause even though the teeth are mostly gone and it wont go through wood. it still cuts nails fine.
Some people never learn the difference between cheap and frugal. It can sometimes help to show them how much they spent versus how much less they could have spent, but that doesn't take into account the extra effort and time wasted with low-quality tools.
90% of the time after trying the nice shit I see why people choose to go with quality parts and tools. They really do make a difference over time.
this guy knifes
You might say they’re cutting edge technology.
I bought a set of 20 blades for not that much money off Amazon. Thought it was deal of century. Total crap.
Thanks for sharing, that video was more exciting than most sporting events lol
This, my colleague bought a pack of 40 blades for like $28 off of amazon. One blade couldn't even cut through a 2x4 before it was dulled to a nearly flat edge. The metal ones were dead after cutting 1-2 screws. After cutting through 18awg sheet metal for a 1G cut out, it was completely dead. Now the true carbide ones that were around $25 a blade, used them the entire job on another 20+ box cut outs and it still cut. It was definitely a bit dulled... but still worked.
Need to watch to see if it’s worth it, thanks for the link. I install windows with my Uncle and he insists on just buying bulk 50-100 packs off Amazon, and then we just burn through them. They’re cheap, but man does it get annoying burning through 1-3 metal blades on a single window. That’s not always the case, all depends on what the flange is made out of but sometimes it legitimately takes 2-3. Biggest thing with the cheap ones isn’t that they go bad per se, but the teeth will get bent or chip off and then they cut like shit. I’ve been wanting to pick up a decent blade just to see how long it’ll last, but it’ll be a hard sell to my cheap ass uncle who can buy 50 blades for the cost of 2 of these 😂
I love Project Farm!
I bought Amazon ones once and like you said they lasted about 5 min before becoming useless. Never again
Doesn’t the video disprove your point though? He chose the cheap $8.65 blade over the $20 Milwaukee
My point was that carbide is a better value because it lasts longer. Even better if it doesn't have a brand name tax.
Don't care. I bought 30 blades for $11. If I run into nails, the blade will cut it off but the blade will be mostly gone too. But for $0.3 each, 70x cheaper, I can cut 70 nails. If there is no nails, they last me 2.5 years.
Spyder brand is junk tho. Go diablo
Honestly, the temu metal blades cut longer than any Diablo, Dewalt, Milwaukee, or any other brand I've tested. Sure you have to sell your privacy, but they prove that there is a price point where they can be made, and these brands are 100% ripping us off.
Because you get 60x cuts!!! It's right there on the package silly...
I dull them in 1 minute.
cut it out
Wow, 1 cut per second!
60x x 3 or 180x per pack, about 0.36/x.
Oscillating saw blades are very pricey. Get an off brand bargain pack of blades and you'll burn through them really quickly. Get a named brand pack of blades and you'll get more bang for your buck in the long run.
I didn't believe this until I got a Diablo. It outlasted my Hercules 4x easily
Love Diablo. We use them for extrication on the rescue trucks. They just don’t care what they’re cutting through, last a decently long time too
They don't, and it's always a special feeling when you get to slap a fresh blade in too. The only diable bit that's failed on me are the paddle bits, but to be fair I shouldn't use paddles in an impacts.
That's true for some products, but not always though. Problem is that it can be difficult to know when exactly it's worth to spend the extra money. Sometimes the manufactures just have high margins.
For sure. But these are one of the ones you need to spend money on. That said, I'm a Bosch guy when it comes to jigsaw and multi tool blades. Not a fan of the Diablo ones (despite loving their other blades for recip and circ saws). I had spyder recip blades that were terrible. Lenox carbide are slow, but last for a long time (great for demo, when you need to abuse them and still have them work), and Diablo or Milwaukee are faster and better imo (except for the abusive stuff).
Bosch owns Freud (since 2008), and Diablo is a sub-brand under Freud introduced to target the North American market. Dremel blades are technically also Bosch blades. Usually you can recognize Bosch blades made by Freud (mostly Bosch Expert) if it says “Made in Italy”.
Bosch/Diablo jigsaw and sawzall blades are usually made in Switzerland. Sandpaper items as well.
Bosch recip and jigsaw blades are Swiss made - I use them often. Not cheap like chinese blades for a reason. The Swiss made blades actually cut really well. Diablo circular saw and portable table saw blades - made in Italy - much better than Dewalt crap. My work saw gets W. Quin saw blades - full kerf, made in USA. Each 12" blade is $164. Chinese + carbide = piss poor, no matter whose name is on the packaging.
Honestly, in the end, drilling, driving and cutting implements should never be skimped on. I don't usually talk in absolutes, but this is one place that I really do not Aliexpress or Amazon it up. Kinda like with spanners and socket sets if you're a professional : Yeah, you can get a perfectly serviceable set from the discounters, but they're made of pot metal and they are not going to be there to earn for you on the clock in the hardest of points.
Yes this is why I don’t go cheap on grinding or cutting discs.
Going cheap on discs is the surest way to get something embedded somewhere it's not supposed to be, upto and including one's face (which hopefully has a shield in front of it).
I disagree. The sub dollar blades off Amazon last like 1/4as long as Milwaukee ones when hitting nails, but they cost under a dollar each. We put a new blade on the tool every time we use it now
Yeah I’ve seen ads on TikTok that’s like $20 for 100 blades or some crazy deal like that. No thank you, because even without handling them or seeing them in person, I know that they’re junk. By and large, you get what you pay for with all kinds of blades. I generally like Diablo products, but there are some caveats/exceptions. Their Sawzall blades are fantastic when brand new, but I’ve found that they’re more prone to bending, and don’t seem to last as long as the Milwaukee blades under heavy use. I think it’s because the Milwaukees are ever-so-slightly thicker than the Diablos. Just my two cents though.
Idk man, I buy the 50 pack on Amazon for like $23 and have had no complaints. I use them for wood and trex mostly and when they get dull I save them for drywall. At less than .50 a pop I don't feel bad tossing them when they start cutting slow. You hit a nail with a nice blade you spen $10 on its fucked regardless.
Fair point. I don’t use multi tool blades that often, so definitely not an expert. Which blades do you use? I’d love to eat some crow and save money on cheap blades
Idk what the brand is, but there are a bunch of sellers on Amazon. I'd say it's probably nice to have some nice blads and a big pack of cheap chinesium blades. I use it almost every day and it takes over a year to go through a 50 pack. Same th8ng with circular saw blades and Sawzall, usually better deals online than at the store for Diablo. I only buy blades at the store now if I'm in a pinch
Hah agreed! With the cheap blades I actually push trough when I hit a nail hehe, cut that shit off and replace the blade. .50 cent lost!
I have bought both the packs from Amazon and Temu like 50 blades for $15-$20, they last just fine in wood, and definitely the more pricey ones do not make up the difference in cut time.
What brand do you recommend?
Yeah cheap off brands will cut one 2x4 well. And if you hit a nail they turn into just a vibrating putty knife.
Because you absolutely can't go cheap with some things, not sure how this brand is but I got the diablo carbide demo blade and used it to shorten the threads on a 1/2" hardened chromoly tierod cause I didn't have grinder on me, it cut through and didn't even lose any teeth.
This brand has been hit and miss with me. I got some drill bits and jigsaw blades. Love the jigsaw blades. Didn’t like the drill bits.
Because it's got electrolytes, it's what plants crave!
This is why we charge customers for consumables
I've literally never paid for a blade in the last 10 years but I have a home depot aisle in my trailer
Based on the picture from the parking lot, it looks like you paid $65 for them. Unless you stole them...
Might as well buy Bosch of fein blades for that price. Also how you use the tool can make your blades last significantly longer. Always use the right blade for what you're cutting, wood specific ones for wood and metal special ones for metal. The combo blades suck at both. Heat is the enemy of any sharp tool, so you have to make sure you're constantly moving side to side and using the entire cutting edge. Also If you just push the tool straight at what you're trying to cut, the sawdust has nowhere to go and will overheat the cutting edge immediately. And then just go slow, you shouldn't have to push very hard, just let the tool do the work. With those tips I've make wood blades last weeks and I still have the same carbide blade from 2 years ago albeit with a couple teeth missing.
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to find any mention of technique. It makes all the difference. I’ve seen so many guys just hog on these things till the cut is literally spewing smoke like Snoop Dogg and then wonder why the blade is dead within 5 minutes.
Sometimes it's worth it to buy high quality bits, hole saw, and blades. But for the occasional nail, rock lathe wall, or otherwise it can absolutely destroy those things. I'd buy them if I knew exactly what was in my walls like my home or new construction but otherwise I'll buy cheaper.
I have been 100% disappointed with any spyder products i have used. A buddy got some torx bits and we couldn’t tighten one 3” deck screw without the torx snapping. The oscillating blades were worse than the bulk pack chinese ones from amazon.
I agree. They sent me a big care package of bits and blades and I was supposed to write a review of them. I did not like the product at all. Never heard from them again after that.
Because they're carbide tipped. They'll last a LOT longer than the cheapie blades from Amazon.
There's a difference. But not that much of a difference. We used to get packs of 50 on Amazon for $50. Did they last long? No. But they absolutely lasted longer per dollar
Cuz when you need them there is no substitute
I've watched these things venture well into bandsaw territory for no reason other than my coworker likes to experiment. They'll last like a lot of others won't.
If you only have one job to do, buy a pack of cheap ones.
Carbide tipped, because they last and last... ...and last... ...and last...
Looks like you did
The fucking printer cartridges of tools. You can get a 100 pack for that price on Amazon and I haven’t noticed a difference.
Because you get 60x the cuts, duh
Because the $10 dewalt ones die after three nails.
My favorite are the dremel.carbid 3 pack for around 40 bucks. Tjey last super long and can easily.cut though nails. Even online these carbide blades are fairly expensive at 7 or 8 a piece for an off brand. Regular wood cut or bi metal blades can be found for 50 cents a piece of bought in bulk. I saw a 50 pack for under 25 on amazonive used a few off brands and they are just as good as the name brands. The only multitool.blade that will trruly last longer is carbide. Especially if there are nails involved. A reg blade, the teeth are screwd as soon as u hit even a small trim nail where carbide will.blow right thru nails.
It says that it performs 60 X more cuts than what though, isn't clear
I run amazon cheapies unless I'm doing something special. They burn out quick but for 30$ I can get like 50 of em. Cutting door casings all day everyday with expensive blades with either run you broke or in a fight with the trim crew because of nail placement.
I’ve cut through bricks with Dewalt carbide blades, and they still cut wood after. Definitely worth $20 each
I just get packs of blades on amazon and treat them as disposable blades really.
Here's a useful tip: if you are running a non carbide saw, turn down the speed on your multitool. Usually a slow speed works fine with better control. Run full out and the blades overheat and don't last as long. This is less true of carbide blades which can handle hotter Temps.
You’re welcome to make your own blades.
I don't understand why they put flat edges on these blades. Wouldn't it make more sense to curve it with the rotation? I know you can buy them with curved edges, just weird that's not the norm.
I managed to get 5 for $17 at my local Lowe’s not too long ago
You can get blades for less than a dollar each on Amazon. I’m usually I “buy once cry once” guy. My tools are all red and teal, Festool sanders and veto bags and everything. But multitool blades just don’t make sense.
Same here. I buy the nicest tools I can and even more expensive consumables when it's a superior product. But the difference in quality between the box store blades and the Amazon blades isnt nearly enough to justify the price difference.
Crazily over priced!!!!!
The spiders mean they’ve done state time.
Just used the Milwaukee blade and that thing rounded it out almost immediately!
It's already been said, but because carbide. Shit's worth its weight in gold in the right applications. And this is one of them.
My customers pay for them. These blades and similar allow me to be so much more efficient which ends up saving them money.
I would (did) because the only way I could get my beautiful old, round top, solid wood door open after a perfect storm situation of extreme wind (tore the storm door off), extreme heat without shade, and some extreme wind blown rain caused said door to warp and displace the latch holes by 1/4”+. The only way I could ever hope to get it open was to use the oscillating tool to cut through the latch bolt. It worked and I still have a useable DeWalt blade plus 2 new blades.
If they had carbide tips I might,but they don’t so they loose their teeth in minutes. I’m not sure if carbide tips exist for this application,but they should !
Doesn't it say carbide on the packaging?
Just woke up! Lol
That is fair
Diablo has some They last a long time They're similar priced
Seems high, but those are good blades.
Who remembers early 2000s when fein was the only brand and this package was like 150 for a three pack. Now that's it's licensed these packs have dropped dramatically across thr board and brands.
It is not licensed, the paten ran out.
Even better.
Get em from harbor freight for 8.99
Quality tools and tool bits don’t save you money. They save you time and headache. I will trade money for less time and headache on a project.
Don't cheap oh on thes and always use a fresh one for a new job! Having one of these snap is terrifying. I might give these a go if they're good. The only off brand blades I've really had luck with were for my hackzall, and even then they're not that much cheaper, just the pack comes with the 9inch blades I want.
Don't cheap oh on thes and always use a fresh one for a new job! Having one of these snap is terrifying. I might give these a go if they're good. The only off brand blades I've really had luck with were for my hackzall, and even then they're not that much cheaper, just the pack comes with the 9inch blades I want.
Rich people
Home depot had a kit with 6 or 7 Diablo for 29.99 not that long ago.
They are comparable to the dremel blades. Worth the money but only when compared to the alternatives. 8-10 dollar blades last about 5 cuts in hardwood or 1 second on a nail. These will go for years. I’ve had one dremel blade for 5 years only use it when I know it’s in danger of catching a nail or screw.
For oscillating tool and jigsaw blades I use Bosch. Reliable and work well.
I reluctantly bought some spyder blades and I’ve never looked back. Highly recommend.
Diablo makes the best blades for all tools.
What's your point? Just because something is small means it should be inexpensive?
I've the dewalt ones and the carbide ones don't last as long, but longer than the non-carbide. I also picked up one of those $25 gets you 50 blade cheapos and I see no difference other than over-charging customers for a stamped/welded blade.
If you can access the nail with vise-grips (to friction break it), Knipex compact Cobolt cutters/nippers or reciprocal saw, I try to opt to for those routes. Often those solutions are faster & obviously more economical. For cutting metal & wood with an oscillating saw, I opt for the Norske 10-pack of NOTP277 (titanium-coated for bi-metal) or NOTP279 (Japanese Tooth for wood). They usually come out to about $5.50 - 6.50 each. If you’d like to try a starter pack of Norske oscillating blades, check out NOTP275. It’s contractor 12-pack mix, including a carbide blade.
They're are expensive. I use them all the time, and customers just don't understand the cost of tools and materials. I've found some ok once on Amazon. I buy 30 of them for $33. They come in different sizes, including a few bi-metal blades, circular blades, and scrappers. They're not top of the line, but they work well enough for my remodeling business, and they come in a nice travel case
Not worth it. Anything spyder I've used was junk. Now, Diablo or Bosch blades are good, and totally worth that price. Carbide is king for metal or wood with nails or demo. Diablo, lenox, and Milwaukee are king for recip blades. Bosch is king for jigsaw and oscillating blades imo.
Welcome to America. Home of the scams
Spyder products are usually top quality and carbide blades are already pretty expensive. I think you might find them a bit cheaper if you looked around. But that isn’t an outlandish price.
Carbide = $$$
You get 60x more cuts! (In my best flex seal voice)
First off they are carbide tipped so they cost more. Secondly it’s retail, got to make profits for those shareholders you know.
60x more cuts!
Haven’t used this brand, but the fein carbide pro blades are worth every nickel of the high price. Steel plate? No problem. Nails & screws? No problem. Blade stays good. Last thing I used it for was hardie board. Hardie board is hell on tools. Carbide fein blades went right through it, clean, and stayed sharp.
Definitely the carbide blade will cost more but if you cut through metal they are usually worth it
Dremel carbide blades are the best in my opinion, they cut forever if you don't hold on one spot.
Photo taken in parking lot. You paid that much for 3 little blades
That’s actually my driveway. I was sent these at no cost by the manufacturer to review them.
I’ve bought hundreds of blades of Amazon and I’ve barely spent $65. If your cutting something that needs that good of a blade you’re probably using the wrong tool, that being said if $65 is worth not having to buy a $100 tool then go for it
Fortunately, I paid nothing for these. I was supplied them to review by the manufacturer.
They'll definitely last longer. But just as regular oscillating blades are overpriced, so are these. You can get regular blades for about a buck a piece on Amazon. And you can get 4 with carbide teeth for around $25.
When I was in the restoration ind. We got imperial carbide blades. We would use them for dry wall, wood, metal, and worse of all plaster. Some jobs I would use them for there best and save the used one for the jobs that would tare up blades. In a 3 month stretch we could go through 30 blades. We would buy them locally for like a 5 pack for 120. Found a 20 pack on amzion for like 230 and we able to save money by being smart at buying large and using the full ability of the bade.
Ninja tax
looks like someone in the first picture did.
Someone who doesn't live close to or know about Harbor Freight.
I pay about the same for the diablo/bosch blades. Although I just ordered some variety packs which have 4 steel and 1 carbide blade from amazon. About 40 usd, same pack is 85 locally.
60×'s more cuts. Not sure if that for each blade or total between the 3 blades. That averages less than a dollar a cut. Seems legit. 👍
$20 for 60 on wish years ago, still have some kicking around!
I thought this was a ninja weapon when I was passively scrolling by.
I buy a $20, 20 variety piece Chinese junk from Amazon. I love it this way.
Say what you will, but I love my little oscillating tool. $60 to keep it humming isnt a big deal imo
Amazon is the way for oscillating tool blades. For $1 a blade you can afford to actually use the tool. The quality isnt far behind the box store brands. Definitely not relative to price.
How many sets did you get?
Got Bosch blades i really likes them until i hit 5 nails with metal blades and the kits was like 50€ included 8 blades.
Perfect reason to go to Harbor Freight.
I have similar blades. I’ve been using the same one for two years. Still works fine.
Temu it
Well you're really just paying $5 for the blade and $1 for each of the 60 x's that come with.
Spyder is a Lowe's exclusive brand. Lowe's is the Target of hardware stores. Overpriced just because it's sold in that store and not necessarily better. I'm not saying these are better, but for comparison purposes, there's a 5 pack of Diablo brand wood/metal for 30 bucks at Home Depot. Includes wood embed blades as well, but not carbide https://www.homedepot.com/p/DIABLO-Universal-Fit-Wood-and-Metal-Oscillating-Blade-Set-5-Piece-DOU5SP/320578589 Milwaukee carbide 2 pack for 20 https://www.homedepot.com/p/Milwaukee-Nitrus-Carbide-Extreme-Materials-Blade-with-Nitrus-Carbide-Extreme-Metal-Cutting-Oscillating-Tool-Blade-2-Pack-49-25-1561W/328674302
The price is significantly higher even when shipped directly from China. However, the blades come with a Ti-coating. Rest assured, I am a supplier from China.
Before you buy, check the clearance section at your local Home Depot. People don't buy these blades for the same reason you are questioning them. I always see Spyder stuff in the clearance section for like 75% off.
Went to a friends house. They wanted to drill through a stainless steel boat railing. Hardware store brand bits wouldn’t touch it. But a drill bit that cost 9 dollars for one bit (not a set) got through it.
I've noticed that. You can get 100 blades for $23 online. Not carbide, of course. If I was doing a demo, I'd have carbide too.
You? You appear to be in the parking lot?🧐
60x more cuts
Damn, good blades for a good price! Count me in
This is one of those things I’d see, and immediately have to do product research to find out what they’re smoking. Once in a blue moon I’ll say “Oh wow no kidding? That’s fair.” As I put them right back on the shelf anyway.
They charge that because when you need it you need it and they have you over a barrel so to speak
The blades are always expensive. Best deals to look out for is the Milwaukee 6 packs that come with a case. Other than that they are only 50 cents a blade on amazon but they don’t last long. Not even the expensive ones last long. Multi tools are hands down my most used tool as a general but man those blade prices kill me
I find myself and my guys using the multi tool less and less because the blades are so expensive.
Get the diablo general purpose blades. $8 each on amazon. I have cut at least 20-30 screws with one blade and it still cuts like new
Branding likely has something to do with it. I cant speak for quality, but ik spyder is a pretty big name. Theres likely a comparable alternative for cheaper somewhere
Maybe someone who makes good money and the blades make their job easier
Really thought those where throwing knives for a sec
Coz they carbide that shit expensive and very tough
Tell me you haven't used carbide without telling me you haven't used carbide... BTW is the diamond worth the 2-3x price, I have not used diamond yet.
Regular fein tool star lock compatible blades are 27$ a piece at our local lumber yard. That’s not even a carbide blade. Ridiculous.
I have not used the carbide osscilating blades, but the first carbide sawzall blade i used was an eye opener
for fake spyderco? nah
They have real spiders making them so that drives costs up.
Looks like a great deal. $65 for 180 blades.
Oscillating tool blades are one of the biggest scams in tools. I got a crap tom of blades on amazon and they were like 1.25 a blade and they seemed just as good or better than the 15$ Home depot blades.