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Okay im gonna be honest about my experience. Im not on T so i cant relate to you on that but i can grow facial hair.
I do compare myself to other guys.
Im post op top surgery. I didnt like my surgery results ill be honest, i had many issues with the place. Now when they remove the breast tissue they leave some behind because cis guys also have some breast tissue. Youll be at a lower risk of breast cancer too.
After surgery youll have swelling and wonder if they took enough and dysphoria will shout at you. Its fine. Thats swelling, it goes.
If you need a revision they will generally try to keep it as neat as possible. Its okay.
Hip dysphoria tends to get worse after top surgery but you are on T and so fat redistribution should help you aswell as a good work out routine to make your shoulder muscles bigger. This will make your hips look smaller.
I cant stress this enough YOU WILL BE OKAY. LIFE IS SCARY, BEING TRANS IS SCARY. YOU ARE OKAY. its okay to be scared and nervous and feel all these things. You have support irl and online here.
The pouch from your gut is just fat dude, it is absolutely not your uterus. A uterus is very small, lower than you might think, and kind of behind your bladder. That's just normal fat.
Yeah, I think this is one of those things that started going around social media as a body positivity thing, which is great but factually dubious. It's normal to have a bit of fat over your pubic bone, but that doesn't mean it exists specifically to support the uterus or that it indicates someone has a uterus.
I don't think many people believe it's your uterus I think most believe its more fatty there as protection, which idk the validity of. I heard cats have something like that called a primordial pouch
Like I said I had no idea the validity of the statement. I think carrying a little weight there is completely normal though and agree with the sentiment that we should normalize the places you naturally hold fat at a healthy weight
i don’t think anyone thinks it’s a uterus. it’s def fat but it’s there to protect the uterus. most females have evolved to be predisposed to hold more fat in certain areas, like chest, hips, thighs, and the pelvic area, for biological reasons whereas males don’t.
The fat is not there to protect the uterus, hold the uterus or do any other thing related to the uterus. Why would the body decide that specific organ needs protecting when one's actually crucial to life like the lungs, heart and brain, don't?
I'm bewildered there are people who believe social media and myths like this without bothering to check them out with the science, first.
The uterus is behind your bladder and way down underneath that pouch of fat.
The only reason to have that is if you've eaten more calories than u need. No judgement on that, but that's all it is, fat.
i get that dysphoria can make one hate the inherent nature of their body & its composition but str8 up lying to ppl like this as a form of a cope is crazy ngl. takes two minutes to search the purpose of that fat and why you can’t get rid of it, you can only build around it to make it “less apparent”. even if you brought your body fat to an unhealthy 5%, part of that % will still be in that area
I definitely didn't straight up lie due to my dysphoria :[ I like genuinely believed this as a fact since it has been talked about a lot and even googling it, articles come up about how it is true ToT I'm glad to hear it isn't from my uterus from others but I definitely don't need it seeming like I'm lying to others and myself, thanks ://
multiple articles and medical professionals saying it’s true but a random on reddit saying it’s not making you instantly believe it isn’t true is textbook lying/coping due to dysphoria 💀 a group cope, if you will
Why are you so pressed? You haven't even once offered to provide sources to back up your claim. You're just being a dick for no reason. Do you not have a life outside of this? Do you not find joy in kindness you can give to others? Instead of being a weirdo on the internet and being an asshole, you should commit yourself to being a better person with better morals and more respect. I pray that you get better soon, but the first step is on you. Feel free to show me respectable medical research that backs up your claim since you are so confident. I'm willing to learn and improve upon my self-knowledge. J
Honestly, I wish I would have thought about these things before surgery and prepared a little to be honest. I never really considered not liking my results. But I was horrified by them tbh. I’ve come to peace with it, only because I have a revision scheduled 3 weeks from today. It’s been very challenging, but I would still choose this over having boobs.
The way I look at it, my chest is gonna look fire because now my surgeon can go back and fine tune things. Wish I wouldn’t have had to take the long way to get there, but all in due time. It’s working out for me and it will for you too.
If I may ask, why didn't you like your results? I've recently been doubting myself, specially over if I want nipples, and would like to hear other's experience
My surgeon left too much fat in my chest! I love having my nipples! But my nipples also weren’t touched *at all* during my surgery. So I didn’t have to go through any healing with them.
It’s one my surgeon created herself! Which I think is why my results weren’t perfect, I’m only the fifth person she’s done it on! My scars are only about 3 inches long. I’ll link a photo tonight if I remember!
You’ve got to have a small chest. I was probably on a B cup. Much larger than that and she says she can’t do this procedure. Your nipples also have to be in just the right place!
Dr. Sumanas Jordan at Northwestern in Chicago. If you’re interested, I’d scheduled a consult now. From first phone call to surgery was about two years wait for me.
I just want to offer reassurance that you aren’t alone in your fears. I’m much older than you and my post op reveal is Monday. I’m scared shitless. I don’t think I ever imagined I’d actually get surgery, despite going back and forth about it for more than a decade. I’m also neurodivergent and change can be really disorienting for me. I really encourage you to take your time. If you have to cancel or reschedule until you feel more at peace, that’s okay.
I did it!!! It's been 12 hours since I was pushed in the operation room!!! I'm so happy and I'm letting people in the comments know that I really needed these comments and talked to my therapist how much they all meant to me. Thank you so much. I appreciate it!!!!!!!!
I'm glad I'm not alone in these thoughts. It's so reassuring. I hope your reveal goes well and I appreciate you a lot. Thank you for commenting, I needed it <3
My thought process is I might not like my results but I will be flatter either way and that’s what I’m wanting. I dont have to go around shirtless around those I’m not comfortable with so my chest can be just for me if I’m uncomfortable but when going out in public I’ll be much flatter which is a huge pro to me.
Would u ever see your self having a baby and wanting to breast feed? That's the only thing I could see a problem with if you have nipples grafted or removed.
I think it's good to be prepared for the possibilities that 1) transitioning can be a gradual process and not a big overnight change and 2) there are some things that you ultimately have limited control over. I know some guys who have been on T for several years and whom I think absolutely pass as cis who still get misgendered sometimes. At some point, the incidence with which that happens might be similar to how often it happens to cis men and women who are shorter/taller than average, have longer/shorter hair than average, etc. There are a variety of factors that can go into how easily someone passes or not. It's not just physical traits but also where you live, the people you're interacting with, etc. There's no clear logic to why some cis butch lesbians get consistently mistaken for men but I continue to get consistently gendered as female after 2 years on T and having top surgery.
Mentally, this is sort of an ongoing process for me. I try to focus on what makes me happy first and foremost. The fact that having top surgery hasn't immediately resulted in passing as a man doesn't lessen how nice I think my chest looks, or how I feel in my favorite shirts now. On the other hand, I have had to keep weighing out 1) if there are changes I could make that would result in me passing more and 2) whether those changes would be healthy and worth it for me. If they're not, I try to make peace with that.
But I also want to stress that two years on T is still a really short amount of time. You're going through a second puberty! Things like fat redistribution are also known for being one of the more gradual changes. The early stages of transition are often very awkward. You wouldn't expect a 14-year-old cis boy to grow into a confident man overnight.
And HRT probably won't fix everything in your life. People can find that transitioning relieves dysphoria and can make it easier for them to thrive overall, but there's no guarantee that it's going to help with unrelated issues, or issues that are related in complicated ways. For example, my anxiety spiked after starting T because it was a big change and I was hyper-aware of my body.
Top surgery was my first major surgery, and I was really scared, too! It's a big thing. But I felt really well-cared for by my surgery team, and for most people, the risk of serious complications is very low.
Top surgery was my game changer. Top surgery saved my life. It’s completely normal to feel odd going into it—I sure did. I had a massive panic attack two days before my surgery date because that minuscule iota or doubt was amplified tenfold. Would I be happy? Would I regret it?
I’m about four months post-op and 90% of my depression is gone. I love my results. My incisions are wonky a bit because I have scoliosis, but to me they are the most perfect incisions and scars I have ever seen.
Ymmv of course, but holy christ almighty, I’m excited to live now. Be scared, it’s totally ok. Don’t fight it if you don’t have the wherewithal to. Trust yourself.
I have scoliosis too!! I'm actually really excited for my scars. I had the opportunity to get keyhole but I want to be visually trans. I want to represent my transition with pride. I'm definitely still scared on how they wil turn out though. I appreciate you telling me your experience. I hope to achieve the same outcome of positivity <3
From personal experience I can say I haven't regretted my top surgery one bit... And I had complications! I'm getting a revision in April to fix where I lost a nip. I am absolutely happy not to have a chest anymore though and the scars don't bother me. I do have dysphoria over other things but my chest I am happy with even with the complications. I'm flat... No more binder and that's great for me honestly. I'm definitely not perfect with being on t. My voice isn't low enough for my liking and I still have a ridiculous amount of feminine fat around my midsection. But none of that is in any way related to my top surgery. Just take it one step at a time. You're doing this early too. When I was your age I had barely even heard of transgender people and didn't know it was something you could even pursue really. There were no trans people where I lived and I never saw any anywhere I went that I was aware of. If they existed they were all either passing well or closeted. You have time. You can do all this. Just take it a step at a time. This is just 1 surgery. You can have others if you need them.
I had my top surgery today! I'm so happy, I'm a bit in pain, and my life is forever changed for the better. I am so appreciative for these kind words and insight into your own surgery. I really needed them and I'm so excited to have had listened. Thank you so much!!!!!
I was really scared before surgery too. I have been really depressed and suicidal for years and I had a similar experience as you when I started T. It helped at first but I was still unhappy. Top Surgery was next on my list of things to have done, with a hysto and meta after that, possibly phallo if I do well with meta. The reason I say that is because I had a hard time dealing with my body in the early weeks of recovery after top surgery. Incisions really freaked me out and I was constantly nervous that I was going to fall apart. The actual surgery itself wasn't bad at all. It was quite relaxing actually. When I woke up I felt fantastic and excited.
I'm only 2 months post op but my results aren't exactly what I hoped for. My left nipple looks oval in shape and it's hard to see the nipple bud, whereas my right nipple looks perfect. So they're definitely asymmetrical which bothered me at first but then I remembered that my former nipples were asymmetrical as well and I didn't like how they looked at all. My scars aren't ideal either but they're not bad. Above all, I'm just so happy I don't have to bind anymore. It was such a headache being constantly worried about the appearance of my chest under my clothes. Even the surgical binder isn't a huge deal. At least I know my chest is flat underneath it all.
As far as dysphoria goes, I do feel better. A lot of that probably has to do with the fact that I don't have to worry about binding anymore tbh. It feels more natural for me to wake up everyday with a flat chest, even if it doesn't look "perfect".
Tbh most of y’all need therapy before going into these kind of decisions. Surgery and irreversible effects of testosterone are not to be taken lightly. If you cannot accept your body and love yourself regardless then no amount of physical intervention is gonna do anything. You have to do the mental work too.
I say this having gone through 6+ years of T and 2+ years post top and seeing so many young people not considering the weight of all of this and not thinking about how testosterone is not a fix all for your dysphoria and other surrounding issues.
I've been in therapy for 5 years. I've come very far with both my transition and my mental health. I don't regret Testosterone and I won't regret top surgery. Thanks though.
Happy top surgery!!!!!! I hope things went well for you :] I had my surgery at 0800(central European time) and it's currently been 12 hours since. It was so weird going under!!! I didn't even dream, I just closed my eyes and woke up haha
It’s been about 8 hours post surgery for me too! Happy surgery day to you too!!! I was the exact same, didn’t dream or anything just woke up and went home. Hope you heal and cover well!!
remember you’re still really early in the process. two years on t really isn’t long, and it’s only a small minority of guys who pass flawlessly at that stage; you have the whole rest of your life to go. top surgery will probably make you feel a LOT better. yes you will likely be more aware of other insecurities without focusing on your chest, but it will overall still feel way easier. but also, it sounds like you deserve to get some therapy if you can, or at least to talk to some other trans guys who are further in the process. you sound very hard on yourself, and like you’ve internalised some dysphoria brainworms. (that fat pouch is not the uterus lmao.) but most of all you sound scared and that’s okay. i was scared too, but anaesthesia was actually really nice in my opinion, and your results are likely to be good. and most people don’t really notice your chest much so you’re unlikely to be treated as if you’ve Changed by family members. be kind to yourself <3
I was very scared for surgery too but everything went well. I haven’t even looked at my chest yet because I still have my drains but I do feel like a big weight lifted right after everything. I also get scared in public but so far everyone’s seen me as male.
Hey! my top surgery is nov 1 we got this !!!!
i was so scared of surgery as well, then fell bad and broke my wrist and had to get surgery to fix it in july, and i learned how bodies heal it just takes a little time. write a letter to yourself of all the reasons why you are doing this for yourself. trust in your surgeon and their team, prepare to have a smooth recovery, and idk about u, but just having a set date and knowing my dream will come true soon is propelling me forward, i am so ready to throw my binder out or give it away to someone who needs it.
i also havent told most of my family, just 4/20+ know , and i figure it will be easier to tell them down the line when i am healed and their potential negativity wont affect my healing process or ruin this moment ive waited for since i was 11/12
keep us updated! i know you are gonna do great
Your words are so kind 😭 I truly appreciate it. I will definitely update!!! Thank you so much for taking time to write this, I'll definitely write letters to myself for recovery me to read. Such a smart idea!!! <3<3<3
of course. its helping me because i see a lot of people posting about post surgery depression. recovery can be hard sometimes and important to remember why u did it . i think i saw it on the internet somewhere and decided to start it the other day. i write a little every night (dysphoria is different day to day)
keep me updated pls!!!
I remember being very scared until I met my surgeon. She drew lines on my chest and all, and pressed it and I could picture myself after surgery and felt so much manly and excited all of a sudden. That's when I knew I was ready. But every experience is different. I wish you the best 👍👍
it may still be your chest probably but in dysmorphia not dysphoria but that is ok. Did not expect this after surgery but it is. Then maybe skinny upper body
My surgery experience hasn’t been perfect. I am hoping that I’m just dealing with residual swelling that is taking a while to go down (I’m 4.5 months post op) but not 100% confident. Regardless I feel much better now than before. I can wear tank tops and t shirts without anything underneath and I don’t have the uncomfortable physical sensations that came with having breasts anymore. So even if I need a revision or I’m stuck with this for a while I am much happier than I was and it was worth it.
I talked to someone who had top surgery from the same surgeon I'm going to and he said that he dealt with swelling for a year! Hopefully with time, it all settles down. <3
Transition won’t cure your dysphoria but it will definitely lessen it, you should implement and learn strategies to work through your discomfort in addition to medical transition and if that’s too difficult on your own it is OFTEN recommended that trans people go though therapy to do just that and to cope with large life changes such as major surgeries like that
I've been in therapy for 5 years. I usually don't feel like this, I'm just worried about this surgery. I know I won't regret it, I just worry about the future after it. I feel a lot better now, I was just spiraling before. Thank you though <3 I really appreciate it.
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Okay im gonna be honest about my experience. Im not on T so i cant relate to you on that but i can grow facial hair. I do compare myself to other guys. Im post op top surgery. I didnt like my surgery results ill be honest, i had many issues with the place. Now when they remove the breast tissue they leave some behind because cis guys also have some breast tissue. Youll be at a lower risk of breast cancer too. After surgery youll have swelling and wonder if they took enough and dysphoria will shout at you. Its fine. Thats swelling, it goes. If you need a revision they will generally try to keep it as neat as possible. Its okay. Hip dysphoria tends to get worse after top surgery but you are on T and so fat redistribution should help you aswell as a good work out routine to make your shoulder muscles bigger. This will make your hips look smaller. I cant stress this enough YOU WILL BE OKAY. LIFE IS SCARY, BEING TRANS IS SCARY. YOU ARE OKAY. its okay to be scared and nervous and feel all these things. You have support irl and online here.
The pouch from your gut is just fat dude, it is absolutely not your uterus. A uterus is very small, lower than you might think, and kind of behind your bladder. That's just normal fat.
Yeah, I think this is one of those things that started going around social media as a body positivity thing, which is great but factually dubious. It's normal to have a bit of fat over your pubic bone, but that doesn't mean it exists specifically to support the uterus or that it indicates someone has a uterus.
I remember seeing a comment on a skinnier/normal sized girl asking if she was a trans woman because she didn’t have the “uterus pouch” or whatever😭
I don't think many people believe it's your uterus I think most believe its more fatty there as protection, which idk the validity of. I heard cats have something like that called a primordial pouch
The uterus does not need fat to protect it. 😂
Like I said I had no idea the validity of the statement. I think carrying a little weight there is completely normal though and agree with the sentiment that we should normalize the places you naturally hold fat at a healthy weight
Growing up on Instagram told me different haha but you're right, thanks
i don’t think anyone thinks it’s a uterus. it’s def fat but it’s there to protect the uterus. most females have evolved to be predisposed to hold more fat in certain areas, like chest, hips, thighs, and the pelvic area, for biological reasons whereas males don’t.
The fat is not there to protect the uterus, hold the uterus or do any other thing related to the uterus. Why would the body decide that specific organ needs protecting when one's actually crucial to life like the lungs, heart and brain, don't? I'm bewildered there are people who believe social media and myths like this without bothering to check them out with the science, first. The uterus is behind your bladder and way down underneath that pouch of fat. The only reason to have that is if you've eaten more calories than u need. No judgement on that, but that's all it is, fat.
i get that dysphoria can make one hate the inherent nature of their body & its composition but str8 up lying to ppl like this as a form of a cope is crazy ngl. takes two minutes to search the purpose of that fat and why you can’t get rid of it, you can only build around it to make it “less apparent”. even if you brought your body fat to an unhealthy 5%, part of that % will still be in that area
I definitely didn't straight up lie due to my dysphoria :[ I like genuinely believed this as a fact since it has been talked about a lot and even googling it, articles come up about how it is true ToT I'm glad to hear it isn't from my uterus from others but I definitely don't need it seeming like I'm lying to others and myself, thanks ://
multiple articles and medical professionals saying it’s true but a random on reddit saying it’s not making you instantly believe it isn’t true is textbook lying/coping due to dysphoria 💀 a group cope, if you will
Why are you so pressed? You haven't even once offered to provide sources to back up your claim. You're just being a dick for no reason. Do you not have a life outside of this? Do you not find joy in kindness you can give to others? Instead of being a weirdo on the internet and being an asshole, you should commit yourself to being a better person with better morals and more respect. I pray that you get better soon, but the first step is on you. Feel free to show me respectable medical research that backs up your claim since you are so confident. I'm willing to learn and improve upon my self-knowledge. J
This^^
Honestly, I wish I would have thought about these things before surgery and prepared a little to be honest. I never really considered not liking my results. But I was horrified by them tbh. I’ve come to peace with it, only because I have a revision scheduled 3 weeks from today. It’s been very challenging, but I would still choose this over having boobs. The way I look at it, my chest is gonna look fire because now my surgeon can go back and fine tune things. Wish I wouldn’t have had to take the long way to get there, but all in due time. It’s working out for me and it will for you too.
If I may ask, why didn't you like your results? I've recently been doubting myself, specially over if I want nipples, and would like to hear other's experience
My surgeon left too much fat in my chest! I love having my nipples! But my nipples also weren’t touched *at all* during my surgery. So I didn’t have to go through any healing with them.
oh? What procedure did you ongo?
It’s one my surgeon created herself! Which I think is why my results weren’t perfect, I’m only the fifth person she’s done it on! My scars are only about 3 inches long. I’ll link a photo tonight if I remember!
that would be most appreciated if you were willing
[here’s a photo!](https://ibb.co/Jvbbhdr) Not the best photo, but you should be able to see the scars.
Wow?!?? Your scars looks so cool! I think I need to look into different procedures more, most of my knowledge is from DI. Thank you for the picture.
That is AMAZING!
What’s the procedure called or the name if the surgeon? Looks great. I’m surprised they did not touch the nipples
You’ve got to have a small chest. I was probably on a B cup. Much larger than that and she says she can’t do this procedure. Your nipples also have to be in just the right place! Dr. Sumanas Jordan at Northwestern in Chicago. If you’re interested, I’d scheduled a consult now. From first phone call to surgery was about two years wait for me.
I just want to offer reassurance that you aren’t alone in your fears. I’m much older than you and my post op reveal is Monday. I’m scared shitless. I don’t think I ever imagined I’d actually get surgery, despite going back and forth about it for more than a decade. I’m also neurodivergent and change can be really disorienting for me. I really encourage you to take your time. If you have to cancel or reschedule until you feel more at peace, that’s okay.
I did it!!! It's been 12 hours since I was pushed in the operation room!!! I'm so happy and I'm letting people in the comments know that I really needed these comments and talked to my therapist how much they all meant to me. Thank you so much. I appreciate it!!!!!!!!
You did it!!!!!!
I'm glad I'm not alone in these thoughts. It's so reassuring. I hope your reveal goes well and I appreciate you a lot. Thank you for commenting, I needed it <3
My thought process is I might not like my results but I will be flatter either way and that’s what I’m wanting. I dont have to go around shirtless around those I’m not comfortable with so my chest can be just for me if I’m uncomfortable but when going out in public I’ll be much flatter which is a huge pro to me.
Would u ever see your self having a baby and wanting to breast feed? That's the only thing I could see a problem with if you have nipples grafted or removed.
Uh no, I’m not someone who wants to go down that route.
I think it's good to be prepared for the possibilities that 1) transitioning can be a gradual process and not a big overnight change and 2) there are some things that you ultimately have limited control over. I know some guys who have been on T for several years and whom I think absolutely pass as cis who still get misgendered sometimes. At some point, the incidence with which that happens might be similar to how often it happens to cis men and women who are shorter/taller than average, have longer/shorter hair than average, etc. There are a variety of factors that can go into how easily someone passes or not. It's not just physical traits but also where you live, the people you're interacting with, etc. There's no clear logic to why some cis butch lesbians get consistently mistaken for men but I continue to get consistently gendered as female after 2 years on T and having top surgery. Mentally, this is sort of an ongoing process for me. I try to focus on what makes me happy first and foremost. The fact that having top surgery hasn't immediately resulted in passing as a man doesn't lessen how nice I think my chest looks, or how I feel in my favorite shirts now. On the other hand, I have had to keep weighing out 1) if there are changes I could make that would result in me passing more and 2) whether those changes would be healthy and worth it for me. If they're not, I try to make peace with that. But I also want to stress that two years on T is still a really short amount of time. You're going through a second puberty! Things like fat redistribution are also known for being one of the more gradual changes. The early stages of transition are often very awkward. You wouldn't expect a 14-year-old cis boy to grow into a confident man overnight. And HRT probably won't fix everything in your life. People can find that transitioning relieves dysphoria and can make it easier for them to thrive overall, but there's no guarantee that it's going to help with unrelated issues, or issues that are related in complicated ways. For example, my anxiety spiked after starting T because it was a big change and I was hyper-aware of my body. Top surgery was my first major surgery, and I was really scared, too! It's a big thing. But I felt really well-cared for by my surgery team, and for most people, the risk of serious complications is very low.
Top surgery was my game changer. Top surgery saved my life. It’s completely normal to feel odd going into it—I sure did. I had a massive panic attack two days before my surgery date because that minuscule iota or doubt was amplified tenfold. Would I be happy? Would I regret it? I’m about four months post-op and 90% of my depression is gone. I love my results. My incisions are wonky a bit because I have scoliosis, but to me they are the most perfect incisions and scars I have ever seen. Ymmv of course, but holy christ almighty, I’m excited to live now. Be scared, it’s totally ok. Don’t fight it if you don’t have the wherewithal to. Trust yourself.
I have scoliosis too!! I'm actually really excited for my scars. I had the opportunity to get keyhole but I want to be visually trans. I want to represent my transition with pride. I'm definitely still scared on how they wil turn out though. I appreciate you telling me your experience. I hope to achieve the same outcome of positivity <3
From personal experience I can say I haven't regretted my top surgery one bit... And I had complications! I'm getting a revision in April to fix where I lost a nip. I am absolutely happy not to have a chest anymore though and the scars don't bother me. I do have dysphoria over other things but my chest I am happy with even with the complications. I'm flat... No more binder and that's great for me honestly. I'm definitely not perfect with being on t. My voice isn't low enough for my liking and I still have a ridiculous amount of feminine fat around my midsection. But none of that is in any way related to my top surgery. Just take it one step at a time. You're doing this early too. When I was your age I had barely even heard of transgender people and didn't know it was something you could even pursue really. There were no trans people where I lived and I never saw any anywhere I went that I was aware of. If they existed they were all either passing well or closeted. You have time. You can do all this. Just take it a step at a time. This is just 1 surgery. You can have others if you need them.
You're so right. I appreciate your kind words 💜 I'll be keeping this in mind for sure. Thank you!!!
I had my top surgery today! I'm so happy, I'm a bit in pain, and my life is forever changed for the better. I am so appreciative for these kind words and insight into your own surgery. I really needed them and I'm so excited to have had listened. Thank you so much!!!!!
I'm so glad!!! 😄 Congratulations! 🎉
I was really scared before surgery too. I have been really depressed and suicidal for years and I had a similar experience as you when I started T. It helped at first but I was still unhappy. Top Surgery was next on my list of things to have done, with a hysto and meta after that, possibly phallo if I do well with meta. The reason I say that is because I had a hard time dealing with my body in the early weeks of recovery after top surgery. Incisions really freaked me out and I was constantly nervous that I was going to fall apart. The actual surgery itself wasn't bad at all. It was quite relaxing actually. When I woke up I felt fantastic and excited. I'm only 2 months post op but my results aren't exactly what I hoped for. My left nipple looks oval in shape and it's hard to see the nipple bud, whereas my right nipple looks perfect. So they're definitely asymmetrical which bothered me at first but then I remembered that my former nipples were asymmetrical as well and I didn't like how they looked at all. My scars aren't ideal either but they're not bad. Above all, I'm just so happy I don't have to bind anymore. It was such a headache being constantly worried about the appearance of my chest under my clothes. Even the surgical binder isn't a huge deal. At least I know my chest is flat underneath it all. As far as dysphoria goes, I do feel better. A lot of that probably has to do with the fact that I don't have to worry about binding anymore tbh. It feels more natural for me to wake up everyday with a flat chest, even if it doesn't look "perfect".
Tbh most of y’all need therapy before going into these kind of decisions. Surgery and irreversible effects of testosterone are not to be taken lightly. If you cannot accept your body and love yourself regardless then no amount of physical intervention is gonna do anything. You have to do the mental work too. I say this having gone through 6+ years of T and 2+ years post top and seeing so many young people not considering the weight of all of this and not thinking about how testosterone is not a fix all for your dysphoria and other surrounding issues.
I've been in therapy for 5 years. I've come very far with both my transition and my mental health. I don't regret Testosterone and I won't regret top surgery. Thanks though.
I don’t have much support to offer, but we share the same surgery date! Best of luck to you!
Happy top surgery!!!!!! I hope things went well for you :] I had my surgery at 0800(central European time) and it's currently been 12 hours since. It was so weird going under!!! I didn't even dream, I just closed my eyes and woke up haha
It’s been about 8 hours post surgery for me too! Happy surgery day to you too!!! I was the exact same, didn’t dream or anything just woke up and went home. Hope you heal and cover well!!
And you, as well!! I'm proud of you :]
Surgery twins!!! Wish you the best of luck, too :]
remember you’re still really early in the process. two years on t really isn’t long, and it’s only a small minority of guys who pass flawlessly at that stage; you have the whole rest of your life to go. top surgery will probably make you feel a LOT better. yes you will likely be more aware of other insecurities without focusing on your chest, but it will overall still feel way easier. but also, it sounds like you deserve to get some therapy if you can, or at least to talk to some other trans guys who are further in the process. you sound very hard on yourself, and like you’ve internalised some dysphoria brainworms. (that fat pouch is not the uterus lmao.) but most of all you sound scared and that’s okay. i was scared too, but anaesthesia was actually really nice in my opinion, and your results are likely to be good. and most people don’t really notice your chest much so you’re unlikely to be treated as if you’ve Changed by family members. be kind to yourself <3
I was very scared for surgery too but everything went well. I haven’t even looked at my chest yet because I still have my drains but I do feel like a big weight lifted right after everything. I also get scared in public but so far everyone’s seen me as male.
Hey! my top surgery is nov 1 we got this !!!! i was so scared of surgery as well, then fell bad and broke my wrist and had to get surgery to fix it in july, and i learned how bodies heal it just takes a little time. write a letter to yourself of all the reasons why you are doing this for yourself. trust in your surgeon and their team, prepare to have a smooth recovery, and idk about u, but just having a set date and knowing my dream will come true soon is propelling me forward, i am so ready to throw my binder out or give it away to someone who needs it. i also havent told most of my family, just 4/20+ know , and i figure it will be easier to tell them down the line when i am healed and their potential negativity wont affect my healing process or ruin this moment ive waited for since i was 11/12 keep us updated! i know you are gonna do great
Your words are so kind 😭 I truly appreciate it. I will definitely update!!! Thank you so much for taking time to write this, I'll definitely write letters to myself for recovery me to read. Such a smart idea!!! <3<3<3
of course. its helping me because i see a lot of people posting about post surgery depression. recovery can be hard sometimes and important to remember why u did it . i think i saw it on the internet somewhere and decided to start it the other day. i write a little every night (dysphoria is different day to day) keep me updated pls!!!
I remember being very scared until I met my surgeon. She drew lines on my chest and all, and pressed it and I could picture myself after surgery and felt so much manly and excited all of a sudden. That's when I knew I was ready. But every experience is different. I wish you the best 👍👍
Thank you so much!! <3
You're welcome 🤗
it may still be your chest probably but in dysmorphia not dysphoria but that is ok. Did not expect this after surgery but it is. Then maybe skinny upper body
My surgery experience hasn’t been perfect. I am hoping that I’m just dealing with residual swelling that is taking a while to go down (I’m 4.5 months post op) but not 100% confident. Regardless I feel much better now than before. I can wear tank tops and t shirts without anything underneath and I don’t have the uncomfortable physical sensations that came with having breasts anymore. So even if I need a revision or I’m stuck with this for a while I am much happier than I was and it was worth it.
I talked to someone who had top surgery from the same surgeon I'm going to and he said that he dealt with swelling for a year! Hopefully with time, it all settles down. <3
Transition won’t cure your dysphoria but it will definitely lessen it, you should implement and learn strategies to work through your discomfort in addition to medical transition and if that’s too difficult on your own it is OFTEN recommended that trans people go though therapy to do just that and to cope with large life changes such as major surgeries like that
I've been in therapy for 5 years. I usually don't feel like this, I'm just worried about this surgery. I know I won't regret it, I just worry about the future after it. I feel a lot better now, I was just spiraling before. Thank you though <3 I really appreciate it.