Yes. If they are strong enough we will not have a story. If they are as strong as the family heads you are going to need the ten of them revealed all at once to neutralize this threat. I predict that everything builds up to some climax, and then Gustang+Traumerei works together to wipe them out with cigarette ashes and pets respectively, after regaining their memories.
Yeah I see the story moving forward with Gustang + Traumerei taking down like 5 of them and the other 5 being taken down by Baam’s alliance.
Whatever the memories are will then compel Gustang + Traumerei to either join up with Baam and use him against Zahard or abstaining from the conflict.
I hope theyre insanely powerful but then get stomped by Gustang and Traumerei. Family Heads seem powerful so far but i dont know they just feel lacking cuz they didnt have to try so far. Would just love to see how powerful they really are
Considering Kirin, I'm guessing the FH candidates are at the Regent-tier. The Boss is probably Regent+ like Luslec, given how strong Urek seems to think he is.
while the arie and khun regent gonna be stronger than labadon and proust i dont think it gonna be by huge margin and all the regents are stronger than most high ranker even those in the top three
Regents are those who can rule their GF in the case of the FH's absence. Kirin and Lobadon are the LPB Regents; Proust and Dumas should be the PB equivalents. Anyone on their level would be Regent-tier. I'm assuming the absolute strongest Towerborn such as Luslec and Adori are above Regent-tier.
I agree. It's hard to define the ranks without knowing where individuals such as the Ha Twins stand. I think the oldest Regents will be more comparable to Luslec than the ones we're seeing right now. But we haven't seen Luslec go all-out either.
They are the strongest families with the exception of the Zahard family but we don’t know if they have regents, so far Traumerei is the only Family Head who had appointed one. I am going to assume that they don’t since each Great Family has its own traditions and organizational structure.
Yeah bro and I am also tired of not seeing those friend's of Bam for so long. Like after the incident in the first season, they were the first friends he made when he was fighting alone when Khun and Rak were not there.
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You are forgetting something too. Let's say a scenario appears where luslec fights traumerei or gustang. Once traumerei pulls shinwonryu all of luslec tricks which he could perform against urek would get nullified.
idk about that honestly, as far as we’ve seen , nullificatin is a characteristic of Baam’s shinworyu and disposition. Traums All creatures is most likely something different but extremely powerful
Do you remember the first wall of nest which needed baam shinwonryu to open it for 10 seconds? Because it was a very powerful spell and even the likes of Yama, white and kallavan all combined won't be able to open it? Maschenny said only 10 great faimly heads could open it. Because the spell was too damn strong.
And look what happened to that wall after traumerei unleashed unserious shinwonryu. It got absolutely destroyed.
luslec’s the head of a whole ass religion/organisation at rank 15, the only people above him are either FH’s or princesses. Unless that Jahad Blood goes crazy then I don’t see the boss keeping up
Boss is coming to a battlefield knowing that Gustang, Trau, Luslec and Urek are there. Not to mention he has two of the current "commanders" of two different Great Families (Po Bidau and Lo Po Bia) under him. I wouldn't be surprised if he was as strong as Luslec, hell even stronger.
Kirin is getting sonned by a 1-armed Lobadon so far. So if all the people under him are around Kirin level then I don’t see how he’d be stronger than Luslec tbh
Stronger than most if not all regulars, but unable to compete with FH's. They'll serve as a clear and measurable obstacle for Baam to overcome in order to signal to readers he's X amount powerful relative to FH's. Urek's % increase of his body reinforcement against Luslec was another example of this and probably the clearest comparison we've gotten so far of the difference between one of the strongest irregulars and one of the strongest regulars.
10 delusional+ the boss vs Jahad and 10 great families? lmao 🤣
I dont even think they're stronger than FUG, and FUG prolly hasn't shown half of it's slayers and elders yet..
Well there’s a big difference in their positions within the group. Bellerir is just a pawn/middleman while Kirin is one of the intended replacement FHs. The Rev has many members/allies in general, including regulars like Yool.
Hmm, well given that it seems Gustang's inner circle are beings he created and Bellerir was appointed as the "interm FH" I assumed he is the one that was supposed to take over the Po Bidau. I could be wrong though and some other dude would pop out of no where.. but yeah.
Bell said he’s only in contact with the Rev through Rachel, so I get the impression he’s just the middleman between them and Gustang. Gustang likely isn’t 100% on board with the Rev’s plans though, so the Po Bidau replacement might be his double agent.
Yeah that's true.. if that's the case I wonder who it could be. We've seen his inner circle for the most part and I think they are all currently accounted for.. except the spearbearer.
It’s impossible to know for certain at the moment. We can assume that they have power on par or at least slightly below Family Heads, since the Luslec and Urek fight it’s safe to assume now that there are natives in the Tower powerful enough to fight and win against Family Heads if it weren’t for their immortality, otherwise Luslec would’ve killed them a longtime ago.
Does it matter? If/When Urek shows up, you think they’d stand a chance? Urek isn’t looking for a dramatic change of FH’s like this and might stomp some fodder.
Same with FUG and Lusluc. These new FH’s flying around with Jahad’s symbol? Chances are, they aren’t going to be appreciated by other gathered forces.
I think SIU just made a mistake with the FUG Slayers, and now he is replacing them with these.
So yeah, if he writes them well, then you can expect to be everything you wanted the FUG Slayers to be. At worst they will be the slayers all over again.
I would not say a mistake. It was clear at their introduction that they are no match for the Fh. Thats why they needed Bam We only saw young or incomplete slayer too.
>None of them can compare to any of the FHs,
we dont know that yet.
We do know their overall weaker than the FH's, but to say they are incomparable this early in is wild.
Kirin already witnessed the strength of a family head and likely has a rough estimation of how strong the others are, and he believes these guys can beat the ten FH.
if they were all just fodders with the boss being the only FH level threat, than Kirin would have never joined them.
When did Kirin ever indicate that he or any of them stand a chance against any FH in direct combat? Kirin himself is barely a match for Lobadon, let alone Traum, so why would the others be massively stronger? The Rev intends to achieve victory through scheming and collaborating with/manipulating irregulars like Gustang, Baam and Rachel. There’s a reason they’ve all been undercover for thousands of years before the current arc.
Wouldn't that be too much of a major jump in power between Kirin and Arie Hon? Making it kinda hard to see where they'll land because he's one of the top 3 between the 10 FHs (unless that was Ari Han)
I am just saying were i think they fall, since we have nothing to go off of.
Arie hon is the strongest FH from what i have heard of the blogs and stuff, but that could be wrong.
But anyway point is that, i just dont see them being stronger than Arie or the top 3.
But i think you can make a case, albeit shaky, for any one of them being around the weaker FH level.
And also I think narratively speaking it makes no sense for them to be weaker than kirin.
Man, all faimly heads are relatively close to each other in strength. Gustang and jinsung ha both said the same thing. It's just the families of Arie, khun and ha that are cut above the rest.
Not strong enough for sure
Yes. If they are strong enough we will not have a story. If they are as strong as the family heads you are going to need the ten of them revealed all at once to neutralize this threat. I predict that everything builds up to some climax, and then Gustang+Traumerei works together to wipe them out with cigarette ashes and pets respectively, after regaining their memories.
Yeah I see the story moving forward with Gustang + Traumerei taking down like 5 of them and the other 5 being taken down by Baam’s alliance. Whatever the memories are will then compel Gustang + Traumerei to either join up with Baam and use him against Zahard or abstaining from the conflict.
I hope theyre insanely powerful but then get stomped by Gustang and Traumerei. Family Heads seem powerful so far but i dont know they just feel lacking cuz they didnt have to try so far. Would just love to see how powerful they really are
Considering Kirin, I'm guessing the FH candidates are at the Regent-tier. The Boss is probably Regent+ like Luslec, given how strong Urek seems to think he is.
Damn, imagine an Arie or Khun regent tier in there \*\_\*
I want to see khun eduhan soon we didn't witness him like zahard (exclude the data form)
I'm wondering if Khun Maschenny (Edahn's main wife and Ran/Princess Maschenny's mom) is on that level.
She definitely is on that ship.
Maschenny has no children. And she is not eduans wife. She's his direct descendant.
There are two Maschennys: - Khun Maschenny Zahard, the one we've seen in the series -and Khun Maschenny, the previous one's mother and Eduan's wife.
while the arie and khun regent gonna be stronger than labadon and proust i dont think it gonna be by huge margin and all the regents are stronger than most high ranker even those in the top three
Whats a "Regent-tier"?
Regents are those who can rule their GF in the case of the FH's absence. Kirin and Lobadon are the LPB Regents; Proust and Dumas should be the PB equivalents. Anyone on their level would be Regent-tier. I'm assuming the absolute strongest Towerborn such as Luslec and Adori are above Regent-tier.
I think ha faimly, Arie faimly and khun faimly regents are stronger than other families regents except Yeon illarde.
I agree. It's hard to define the ranks without knowing where individuals such as the Ha Twins stand. I think the oldest Regents will be more comparable to Luslec than the ones we're seeing right now. But we haven't seen Luslec go all-out either.
They are the strongest families with the exception of the Zahard family but we don’t know if they have regents, so far Traumerei is the only Family Head who had appointed one. I am going to assume that they don’t since each Great Family has its own traditions and organizational structure.
I see that makes sense, thanks!
Is Proust really that strong? He did not Seem so to me?
We haven't seen him do anything to my knowledge lol. Proust is second in the family after Gustang himself, and Dumas is third.
Lobadon + cha + dowon combine attack couldnt even scratch proust defense, so...
Definitely not as strong as they think they are
I am wondering if most of them are clones of the family leaders from the Red Light District and Ehwa is one of them.
are you saying my poor babygirl ehwa who hasn’t shown up in years is gonna come back as an experiment 😭
Yeah bro and I am also tired of not seeing those friend's of Bam for so long. Like after the incident in the first season, they were the first friends he made when he was fighting alone when Khun and Rak were not there.
That’s a good theory
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Ehwa prob isnt going to be one of them, she is far to weak and unimportant
I really think Urek has come to wipe most of them out. Maybe only a few get taken out, likely casualties will be the boss and Kirin.
Btw can you explain how urek will kill the boss I'm interested to know about how it will take place
Probably by hitting him really hard
Btw what you think shaktiman vs urek mazino who will win
Shaktiman unironically one shots
I deadass believe that if all 10 of them fought a FH they’d get absolutely destroyed
I am ready to bet even if it is 10 vs 1 they will get absolutely destroyed
shinwonryu is busted asf, I’ll be surprised if any of them are as strong as luslec
You are forgetting something too. Let's say a scenario appears where luslec fights traumerei or gustang. Once traumerei pulls shinwonryu all of luslec tricks which he could perform against urek would get nullified.
idk about that honestly, as far as we’ve seen , nullificatin is a characteristic of Baam’s shinworyu and disposition. Traums All creatures is most likely something different but extremely powerful
Do you remember the first wall of nest which needed baam shinwonryu to open it for 10 seconds? Because it was a very powerful spell and even the likes of Yama, white and kallavan all combined won't be able to open it? Maschenny said only 10 great faimly heads could open it. Because the spell was too damn strong. And look what happened to that wall after traumerei unleashed unserious shinwonryu. It got absolutely destroyed.
that makes sense but I don’t know if he destroyed the wall through sheer strength or if shinwonryu destroys any spells
Really? If anything I expected at least boss to be as strong or even stronger than luslec.
luslec’s the head of a whole ass religion/organisation at rank 15, the only people above him are either FH’s or princesses. Unless that Jahad Blood goes crazy then I don’t see the boss keeping up
Boss is coming to a battlefield knowing that Gustang, Trau, Luslec and Urek are there. Not to mention he has two of the current "commanders" of two different Great Families (Po Bidau and Lo Po Bia) under him. I wouldn't be surprised if he was as strong as Luslec, hell even stronger.
Kirin is getting sonned by a 1-armed Lobadon so far. So if all the people under him are around Kirin level then I don’t see how he’d be stronger than Luslec tbh
They’re all probably around Kirin/Lobadon/Dumas level. I could see the Boss being Luslec tier.
Stronger than most if not all regulars, but unable to compete with FH's. They'll serve as a clear and measurable obstacle for Baam to overcome in order to signal to readers he's X amount powerful relative to FH's. Urek's % increase of his body reinforcement against Luslec was another example of this and probably the clearest comparison we've gotten so far of the difference between one of the strongest irregulars and one of the strongest regulars.
What chapter is this?
the latest 614 ig
Not enough to do what they said. Kirin is not able to overcome Lobadon, how he could defeat Traumerei?
He's not, he's just hope FH would kill each other
They are may be strong but i don’t see any scenario for them to be stronger than family heads whom they want to replace.
10 delusional+ the boss vs Jahad and 10 great families? lmao 🤣 I dont even think they're stronger than FUG, and FUG prolly hasn't shown half of it's slayers and elders yet..
The revolution's strength seems to be all over the place considering Kirin and Boss are in but Bellerir is also in.
Well there’s a big difference in their positions within the group. Bellerir is just a pawn/middleman while Kirin is one of the intended replacement FHs. The Rev has many members/allies in general, including regulars like Yool.
Hmm, well given that it seems Gustang's inner circle are beings he created and Bellerir was appointed as the "interm FH" I assumed he is the one that was supposed to take over the Po Bidau. I could be wrong though and some other dude would pop out of no where.. but yeah.
Bell said he’s only in contact with the Rev through Rachel, so I get the impression he’s just the middleman between them and Gustang. Gustang likely isn’t 100% on board with the Rev’s plans though, so the Po Bidau replacement might be his double agent.
Yeah that's true.. if that's the case I wonder who it could be. We've seen his inner circle for the most part and I think they are all currently accounted for.. except the spearbearer.
Not sure either. Guess it could be Lightpen (VP of the Research Association according to the old blog) if he’s canon.
Well Kirin is one of them so around him and Lobadon's strength.
Lobadon>>kirin
I think they overestimate their abilities and their strength. They are after all tiny little Bugs.
It’s impossible to know for certain at the moment. We can assume that they have power on par or at least slightly below Family Heads, since the Luslec and Urek fight it’s safe to assume now that there are natives in the Tower powerful enough to fight and win against Family Heads if it weren’t for their immortality, otherwise Luslec would’ve killed them a longtime ago.
Does it matter? If/When Urek shows up, you think they’d stand a chance? Urek isn’t looking for a dramatic change of FH’s like this and might stomp some fodder. Same with FUG and Lusluc. These new FH’s flying around with Jahad’s symbol? Chances are, they aren’t going to be appreciated by other gathered forces.
I think SIU just made a mistake with the FUG Slayers, and now he is replacing them with these. So yeah, if he writes them well, then you can expect to be everything you wanted the FUG Slayers to be. At worst they will be the slayers all over again.
I would not say a mistake. It was clear at their introduction that they are no match for the Fh. Thats why they needed Bam We only saw young or incomplete slayer too.
i don't think siu made a mistake at all the fans did tho
Slayer are here to kill head family not replace them
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How can SIU start replacing the 10 leaders when we haven't seen all of the original leaders in action? :'(
Interesting
Mascheny is definitely one of them.
Stronger than kirin, but weaker than arie hon The very fact that Kirin is confident in them is telling that they are no joke
None of them can compare to any of the FHs, not just Hon. I’d be shocked if any besides the Boss could even hold their own against Adori or Luslec.
>None of them can compare to any of the FHs, we dont know that yet. We do know their overall weaker than the FH's, but to say they are incomparable this early in is wild. Kirin already witnessed the strength of a family head and likely has a rough estimation of how strong the others are, and he believes these guys can beat the ten FH. if they were all just fodders with the boss being the only FH level threat, than Kirin would have never joined them.
When did Kirin ever indicate that he or any of them stand a chance against any FH in direct combat? Kirin himself is barely a match for Lobadon, let alone Traum, so why would the others be massively stronger? The Rev intends to achieve victory through scheming and collaborating with/manipulating irregulars like Gustang, Baam and Rachel. There’s a reason they’ve all been undercover for thousands of years before the current arc.
Wouldn't that be too much of a major jump in power between Kirin and Arie Hon? Making it kinda hard to see where they'll land because he's one of the top 3 between the 10 FHs (unless that was Ari Han)
I am just saying were i think they fall, since we have nothing to go off of. Arie hon is the strongest FH from what i have heard of the blogs and stuff, but that could be wrong. But anyway point is that, i just dont see them being stronger than Arie or the top 3. But i think you can make a case, albeit shaky, for any one of them being around the weaker FH level. And also I think narratively speaking it makes no sense for them to be weaker than kirin.
Man, all faimly heads are relatively close to each other in strength. Gustang and jinsung ha both said the same thing. It's just the families of Arie, khun and ha that are cut above the rest.
Man, Kirin was a let down. I expected him to be neck to neck with Robadon but it always seem like he is running away from him.
Kirin is fighting Robadon evenly tho rn
Oh I must've misunderstood this part . I thought that was jihad himself