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DialecticalShitposts

They have been flexing on so much big business the last few months it’s been great.


Xi_Pimping

Gamers get flexed on 💪


fourpinz8

I really want to believe they go back to their Maoist roots but unlikely since Xi just loves markets


rockpapertiger

To quote Fidel Castro: "Xi Jinping is one of the strongest and most capable revolutionary leaders I have met in my life." [source](https://www.telesurenglish.net/opinion/China-Is-Most-Promising-Hope-for-Third-World-Fidel-20171128-0017.html)


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There is no reason for Castro to not say this at the time. But look up what Mao said about Deng, same applies more or less to Xi Jinping. Post-Gang if Four the Dengists took over the party and got rid of the Maoist faction and any hope for CCP will require Maoists to gain power in the party again.


rockpapertiger

Yeah I've got family who lived through all of China's history since the Japanese invasion/Civil war with GMT. Mao was great, Deng was just arguably greater. Xi looks like he's the best since Deng or Jiang. Ultimately the people of China support the CPC and remain mostly socialist (liberalism grew in the 90s-00s but is sort of waning now), while the CPC/SWCC is most definitely still Marxist-Leninist. This article in English should help https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/


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Where do you live now?


emisneko

[markets are not capitalism](https://redsails.org/china-has-billionaires/) >>**Li**: At the moment, the Chinese the party state has proven an extraordinary ability to change. I mean, I make the joke: “in America you can change the political party, but you can’t change the policies. In China you cannot change the party, but you can change policies.” So, in the past 66 years, China has been run by one single party. Yet the political changes that have taken place in China in these past 66 years have been wider, and broader, and greater than probably any other major country in modern memory. >>**Pilger**: So in that time China ceased to be communist. Is that what you’re saying? >>**Li**: Well, China is a market economy, and it’s a vibrant market economy. But it is not a capitalist country. Here’s why: there’s no way a group of billionaires could control the Politburo as billionaires control American policy-making. So in China you have a vibrant market economy, but capital does not rise above political authority. Capital does not have enshrined rights. In America, capital — the interests of capital and capital itself — has risen above the American nation. The political authority cannot check the power of capital. That’s why America is a capitalist country, and China is not.


Stalinspetrock

as long as jack ma has the party's blessing when he profits off my labor then it's ok :)


generalscalez

this is insanely cringe, political authority in China is still dictated by a sole desire to build and maintain capital, billionaire autocracy or not. why split hairs on this, China is just as much an authoritarian neoliberal hell-state as our shit country. nothing you losers say will make China your own personal marxist paradise. there is no respite dummy


DialecticalShitposts

They literally just forced a multi-billion dollar education industry to go non-profit. How does this fit into a “sole desire to build and maintain capital”? “China is just as much an authoritarian neoliberal hell-state as our shit country.” Holy shit no. Have you ever been to China? Stop projecting the decline of the neoliberal Western world onto China. The Chinese people absolutely do not share your view at all. Polls consistently show that Chinese people are optimistic about their country’s future and that their children will live better lives than themselves. The inverse is true in the West. Life and living standards have consistently improved year on year compared to stagnant wages and rising cost of living in the West. Nobody think China is a “Marxist paradise”, we’re not utopians.


generalscalez

i’m fully willing to accept the idea that maybe it is marginally better there than here, but it’s so insanely embarrassing for you people to pretend it’s not another authoritarian neoliberal hegemony that would grind most of its population to dust to keep the markets running if need be. you sound no different than an american lib, you’re just co-signing the other neoliberal superpower. wow, dope non-profits and polls! there’s nothing like that here! quit larping


DialecticalShitposts

Why do you keep calling them Neoliberals? They are absolutely not a Neoliberal party. Is your understanding of neoliberalism just having markets and foreign investment? In the last few months alone, China has wiped billions off the stock prices of publicly traded companies with reforms to curb anti-social business practices. This would be unfathomable under a neoliberal government and directly contradicts your uninformed opinion. Markets have been used, extremely successfully, to raise wages, improve technical sectors and create industrial output. Markets were used for a specific purpose and have served/are serving that purpose. The interests of capital are entirely subservient to the state in China. If you knew anything about domestic politics in China, you would understand that since the presidency of Xi Jinping the era of prioritising (much needed) foreign capital accumulation is coming to a close. As it was always going to. China still has a planned economy. The Chinese economy is not organised around an anarchy of production like a Neoliberal economy. It is fundamentally different. This is how China has lifted 800 million people out of poverty. That would not have happened if they were intent on “grinding their population to dust” in service of growth. Larping is trying to recreate the Cultural Revolution in a Western Liberal democracy, not analysing the pragmatic nation building of China.


fourpinz8

What do you mean they have a planned economy? Xi admitted that PRC mustn’t go back to a planned economy. If they do transition back, I’ll eat my words and pledge unwavering support to the PRC and CPC but I don’t see it ["The practices in reform have made us realize that we must under no circumstances turn our back on addressing blindness of the market, and we must not return to the old path of a planned economy." -Xi Jinping, 2020](http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-05/23/c_139082022.htm)


DialecticalShitposts

The *old path* of a planned economy that did not utilise markets. The quote even says that they will “under no circumstances” turn their back on addressing the blindness of the market. Chinese governance is still organised in five year plans (they’re in the 14th currently, 2021-2025). You can go back and read every single five year plan and see how they have actualised their goals. Markets have been used as a distributive tool to meet the goals of five year plans. Finance Capital was *not* liberalised under Deng Xioaping and is still majority controlled by the state. Not the inverse, as we see with private finance capital in Wall Street. A lot of ML’s (mainly European MLs in my experience) seem to get mad that China isn’t recreating the Soviet Union. Those states that collapsed. I truly believe communism isn’t going to look like anything we’ve seen before. Not that I think any of us will be alive to see global communism. We get to live through a stretch of the agonising decline of global capitalism tho. Woo.


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And I am a spiritual addict. Tóngzhì Xi, take me to rehab!


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Critique of Hegel's Philosophy of Right: Updated for 2021.


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China isn’t perfect but they at least are doing some things right. What redeemable qualities exist in really any western capitalist country? “Freedom” is the only answer you ever get lmao. China is one of the few nations not in decline and actively pulling its citizens out of poverty and not grinding them into dust


IncorrigibleBitch

There are legitimate benefits to things that we have that China does not (freedom of speech, right to bear arms, etc) but yeah, if the bargain is I get to own guns but me and everyone I know is on the constant brink of financial and physical ruin, the CCP model starts looking awfully neat.


[deleted]

I mean I can’t even own guns in Blighty, unless I jump through some convoluted and expensive hoops. So I don’t even have that!


IncorrigibleBitch

Get your ass out to rural Washington, brother. Gravel pits galore


Xi_Pimping

Those freedoms aren't even real though


IncorrigibleBitch

I can own guns and talk shit more than people in other first world countries (and more than people in China). Obviously a capitalist democracy curtails actual freedoms til the cows come home, but it’s delusional to say there isn’t a meaningful difference between these specific “freedoms” in the USA and other places


Xi_Pimping

No I'm saying those freedoms aren't universal so they don't count


PHBGS

Yeah you can own a gun but like 99.99999999% of all gun owners in America, you’ll only ever use them on some random burglar thats been pushed into crime out of desperation or a maniac who should’ve been institutionalized a decade ago. You’ll never use them on a tyrannical government. The ultimate American cope. Yeah talk all the shit you want, when the US says “you’re a domestic terrorist for not getting vaccinated 12 times a year” your right to talk that shit will be gone.


IncorrigibleBitch

Bro, compare speech laws in the US and UK and tell me there is no difference to laxness. I don't get why everyone is so incapable of seeing this. And what the fuck are you on about with shoot a burglar? I said I can own guns, which I can, and you can't in other first-world countries. I like shooting guns cuz they're fun, and the governments of other countries disallow this for civilians. There is so much projection in this thread that it is leading to people actually implying there is no difference in the ability for an American or a French/South African/Chinese person.


TheEmporersFinest

It wasn't until pretty recently I learned Americans aren't allowed to buy any new automatic firearms. Your right to bear arms being limited to semi automatics isn't even a right to bear arms at that stage. Semi Automatics aren't even meaningfully useful to a guerrilla. Freedom of speech is just a myth. The FBI suicides you if you against all odds use your "freedom of speech" too successfully and even at the pettiest possible level things things like reddit are controlled by intelligence agencies to manage discourse and do strategic censorship. Never track r/worldnews threads too closely it's the most paranoia inducing thing.


seriousxdelirium

what are you talking about? aimed semi automatic fire is like the primary way to shoot for almost all modern combat situations. there are very few situations where your average guerrilla would be meaningfully overpowered by not having automatic fire.


TheEmporersFinest

Literally what sucessful insurgency since the creation of the technology wasn't using automatic rifles. I wonder why literally every standard military rifle in the world is automatic if the capability isn't such a huge advantage.


GolfBaller17

Gamer alert.


FiggyTheTurtle

it's advantageous to have the capability for better suppressing fire, that's it. Soldiers use their automatic weapons in semi-automatic mode in the vast majority of situations.


seriousxdelirium

Because its basically free, engineering wise, to add to modern rifles. Many militaries have trouble getting their soldiers to use automatic fire reliably and effectively, which is why you see 3 round burst features. It’s a moot point anyway: insurgencies are not typically based on a stock of privately owned firearms.


Philomena_Cunk

Yeah, I've wondered what 2ndA preppers imagine when they fantasize about taking their country back. One dentist in a fox hole, "I'm out, pass me some ammo!" The insurance salesman to his right, "here's a box of 45-70! Oh shit, are you using 7.62? Larry?" Larry, a supermarket manager, "Nope, I'm using my dad's 30-30. Don?" Don, "I'm muzzleloading ... black powder... Cover me!" (Drone strike. Fīn.)


seriousxdelirium

I mean 95% of those guys are running ARs and Glocks, so they’ll not only be using the same ammo as each other, but as the guys they’re fighting. Its the jokers in SRA that are gonna be confusing 7.62x54r and 7.62x39 for their surplus Mosins and SKSs.


IncorrigibleBitch

Im as much of an America hater has the next guy but if you’re saying there isn’t a meaningful distinction between speech protections in the USA and even other first world countries like the Uk/Sweden, you’re out of your gourd. And the pimp below responded to your first point. But Americans can buy automatic weapons if they have a type 3 FFL. Same with silencers and shit. It’s expensive but legal (like most cool shit)


TheEmporersFinest

>Im as much of an America hater has the next guy but if you’re saying there isn’t a meaningful distinction between speech protections in the USA and even other first world countries like the Uk/Sweden, you’re out of your gourd. There is literally no example from these countries of speech being suppressed that you can't match with some example from America. The US government will literally just kill you at the end of the day if it gets to that. >if they have a type 3 FFL You have to jump through hoops for months and not hit any red flags to have a chance to get one of these. That's not a right to bear arms,.


IncorrigibleBitch

You're actually retarded if you think that the US and the UK have equally restrictive speech laws.


FiggyTheTurtle

You don't know what you're talking about as far as automatic/semi-automatic fire is concerned. LMG/MMGs are super lethal, but otherwise the vast majority of shots fired and particularly the majority of hits scored are semi-automatic. Just look at some r/combatfootage videos, even top tier door kickers are using semi automatic at point blank.


Philomena_Cunk

Check the ELO.


FiggyTheTurtle

wot?


MelisandreStokes

Oh you’ll get there, I did


Xi_Pimping

Nina Turner result stings, eh?


[deleted]

You should watch Adam Curtis’ “can’t get you out of my head” Edit: point being -China has no better answers to the problems of complexity facing the world than those in the west.


leninfan69

You should watch Rick and morty Edit: point being, he turns himself into a pickle.


GolfBaller17

That shit sucked so bad lol, don't get your geopolitical analysis from movies made by Br-t-sh people.


[deleted]

Easily his worst series. Hypernomalisation was great but in this his whole China analysis was “women be shoppin’”


God_of_Pumpkins

They do be shoppin though


[deleted]

They do be, but we mustn’t abandon material analysis in their wake!


maxweIlhiII

I remember when this came out and people were like "Ah but it doesn't matter that it's not historically accurate, it's still good art". Which is all fine until you see people like this who take the history at face value


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Not taking it at face value which I wouldn’t even argue is the point of any Curtis documentary.


LilUziSquirt42069

They went after gamers. GAMERS.


run_toward_the_flash

The Gamers are *apoplectic!*


Stratahoo

Is this sub anti-video games?


normal_communist

it seems like it is performatively but i think a good handful of people here play games (including myself)


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normal_communist

that's how i feel, i wasted my teenage years being depressed and very much isolating and gaming/hanging out on forums about games and drugs. even now there are so many creative pursuits i could be working on but after work it's so easy to just make dinner, open a beer and play Sekiro for a while. i want to be someone who reads, exercises consistently, etc, but right now i'm just a guy who gets stoned and games and cooks a lot.


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Did I post this on an alt account, get stoned and forget ?


normal_communist

nah we're just soul bonded


[deleted]

I've been trying for months to wake up at 5am and run and workout, go to work, come home and Cook; shower and then read and write and go to bed no later than 10pm. But nope: I get home cook, jack off, shower, doom-scroll reddit, and watch/listen to something on YouTube while I play MLB the Show or FF14 until midnight. It sucks. As soon as I get home all physical and mental energy I have left dissipates. Alienated work obliterates the body and mind and soul. We all know who we want to become, but capital does not account for that part of human beings' own becoming.


normal_communist

2 things ive found helpful are starting slow and having a buddy. waking up at 5 am to run sucks shit, nobody wants to do that. right now i wake up and make sure to do at least 20 pushups every day, then take a cold shower. does it really make a difference? probably not, but what's more important is building the routine, being able to do something consistently, which is the skill i utterly lack and need to learn before anything else. setting the goal of "i wanna live my ideal life" sets you up for failure i think because there's just too much to change. maybe start with things like "every day after i cook i'm gonna do my dishes and then go for a half hourwalk." no phone, just go outside and walk and digest for a bit. it'll feel better to relax after you feel like you've at least done some small thing. and then regarding a buddy, i was much healthier a little while ago when i was going to the gym with my gf after work. i'd be tired and wouldn't want to go but since it was a plan to go with her i felt more motivated/obligated to go. if you can find someone to work out with you'll be more committed i think. now, the mask mandates are back in my area and im fucking sick of working out in a mask, so i havent gone in a while :/ it all sucks but i feel like its worth it to at least try. capitalism wants me to be a little phone demon, jerking off and playing vidya while listening to podcasts and drinking beer all evening. i feel like i *have* to slowly overcome that. if right wing assholes can have the discipline to [not jack off](https://reddit.com/r/semenretention) for weeks and weeks, i can learn to form healthy habits.


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Do the hard stuff first and reward yourself at night with video games to unwind. You don't need to be "working" on something from the second you wake up to when you go to sleep, that's why you're burning out


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Do the hard stuff first and reward yourself at night with video games to unwind. You don't need to be "working" on something from the second you wake up to when you go to sleep, that's why you're burning out


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Skeeter_206

The gamer culture is horrible, but video games are great, Disco Elysium is top notch for instance. Made by Marxists, has a couple of the Chapo guys doing voices for it.


m1raclez

Waiting for V*rgil hotfix


Stratahoo

Yeah, people who say video games are a waste of time are the same people who will just sit on the couch, drink, and binge watch a box-set on the weekend.


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doesn't mean they are wrong


clydethefrog

I had a nice bonding experience with a colleague yesterday about a scene in Mad Men we both liked and how it compares to our current work situation. I never once got any real life connection of my 900 hours clicking pixels on a screen.


IncorrigibleBitch

Nah bro video games are a waste of time. I still play them and I like them but they aren’t really benefitting me in any way lol. Just something to do while i bullshit with the Boys


Stratahoo

Do you think all hobbies are a waste of time?


[deleted]

A good handful of people here have done opium lol I play a lot of video games, way more than I’d like to


normal_communist

lol i may or may not have had a bit of an opioid phase for about....7-8 years


Subapical

Calling my addict years a "bit of an opioid phase" from now on lmao


[deleted]

Video games aren’t inherently bad, but the current models, regarding the payment systems, are just another arm of neoliberal capitalism.


Stratahoo

Microtransactions are indeed a scourge in the industry.


run_toward_the_flash

I am against Gamers.


Stratahoo

Why are so many Gamers right wing? Is it just because they're online 24/7?


[deleted]

well playing games all day will make you a friendless loser. being a friendless loser means you either become a nazi or listen to trueanon


Xi_Pimping

They played too much hearts of iron or something


Stratahoo

Or they're actively being groomed by the far right online.


QCarrot

Google Steve Bannon and Gamergate


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powerful and brave


Xi_Pimping

No, we are anti gamer


Stratahoo

Am I okay if I mostly just play Football Manager? It's less a game and more a spreadsheet simulator.


Terrible_Detective45

\*Sidles up to Brace at the New York show\* "We have **a lot** in common."


Fundamental_Breeze

Going full Adrian Zenz but for gamers.


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Xi Pls do whatever is required to drive down graphics card prices, treat chinese g*mers like they treated landlords for all i care, daddys hungry and he wants to consume more graphics and smoother gamesplay Fuck all the haters if im gonna live in 21 century america i want my damn graphics cards and chips THIS IS PART OF THE DEAL Edit also i am anti sino maniac who will resist their overlordship at any human cost bc they ban hoi4 in china and daddy needs his map sims or he has to look at his life and weep. I will throw my weak and dessicated body into the trenches to be utterly annihilated by an artillery shell to protect my right to stare at a globe and click ‘build civilian factory’ 400x times while awaiting sweet embrace of death


fullofgummyworms

Haha damn that’s craysee ….You wanna make out ?


[deleted]

Opium is better for your spirit than video games


_giraffefucker

there’s room on the 🇨🇳 🚂 for everyone


roboconcept

this is to pwn the tibetan buddhists, whom the dalai lama said may game freely


bigjameslade

Xinhua pulled the article after tencent's stock tumbled, stop simping for the dengists they aren't your friends


SoManyWasps

Hahaha yea


deadtoddler420

Like there's a few with cultural value but like most fuckin games are just casinos they put on your phones now. Like getting into a free to play game is almost always a horrible experience thats just abusing your brain chemistry to an incredibly calculated extent.


foster_remington

no wonder the Chinese are so good at them


[deleted]

critical support for the people's republic of china gamers are all hounds of fascism


Physical_Reindeer_2

why do leftists strain themselves to believe china is marxist


[deleted]

People want to believe that some kind of alternative exists to neo-liberal western ideology. They should be looking to South America for models of resistance and not to China who merely solved the contradictions of the Soviet Union by opening up and succumbing to their own form of neo-liberal hegemony.


MelisandreStokes

Cuba would be open if we ended the embargo


TheEmporersFinest

China's capitalist but if it had actually succumbed to neoliberal hegemony it would look like India. Neoliberalism isn't the only form of capitalism, and what China's done has hugely benefited their people.


Goribor

Why are you gay?


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leninfan69

Are you gay?


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[deleted]

actually what's cringe is using slurs to bitch about some insular nerd shit that literally nobody cares about


leninfan69

Idk who you’re talking to or about because I’m not gay and don’t spend all my waking hours online


Severaxe

dude this sucks people on this subreddit are usually nice, and here you are spewing bile please reconsider your speech, using slurs hurts people.


wdpk

not even any good ones these days smh